Jake Fighting for the Scholars Prize, Longsword Sparring

[Ulver27]

i enjoyed the vid...but even though i love motorhead...why you had to put it? You should have let us enjoy the sword clashes...

[bronxman4u2000]

video good. music baaaaaad. fire bad too :)

[mechupanlamonda]

in your combats, do you block with the flat part of the sword? or how do you do it? does the blade sustain damage on the edges when you parry? or did the forge get better at the time of the development of the longsword, so you didn't have to worry about edge damage.

[Nikos3000]

@mechupanlamonda You use both edge and flat depending on the technique. Sharps would inevitably sustain some edge damage during combat, but its not like they are expecting to face the regular battering of training swords. Additionally, most of the longsword prinicipals of the German rely on displacing energy rather than the dead parries which would result in the most damage. Also appreciate that a break is more likely with pressure on the edge, better to take some edge damage than lose the blade

[mechupanlamonda]

@Nikos3000 thanks, man. last question, can you tell me the songs of this video. than you very much.

[Nikos3000]

@mechupanlamonda Honestly I am terrible at remembering songs names and artists and it was ages ago that I edited this. Sounds to me like both tracks are from Motorhead, pretty sure.

[mechupanlamonda]

@Nikos3000 no problem, thanks anyways. 

[Nikos3000]

@JeromeBrass Yeh, will just damage your sword. Curved blades naturally slice better, straight blades better for the thrust. We cannot forget trauma though, which is just as important to a sword strike as the actual slice is. To maximise cutting power with a straight blade you want a blade with as little taper as possible. Look up the Oakeshott sword typology, you will want something like a type XIIIa, but plenty of options.

[Nikos3000]

@JeromeBrass As armour developed to plate, longswords began to taper more, giving a slight decrease in cutting effectiveness but a major improvement in thrusting ability, with an acutely tapered and stiff blade. The broader cutting blades did still continue in usage as well though. Thrust work (especially half swording techniques) are rarely seen in fiction as it isn't as dramatic on film or in novels.

[Polskmofo]

0.49 that was badass

[wingsoffire55]

i love your videos i think ive wtched them all

[wingsoffire55]

@wingsoffire55 for some reason the A didnt want to go in their

[baphomet418]

are those the Hanwei Practical Hand and a Half Swords being used?

[Nikos3000]

I think there might be one in there yes, but all the others are Hanwei Tinker longswords.

[baphomet418]

would you recommend the Hanwei hand and a half swords?

[OmteZero]

I have never seen such Fencing masks advertised as suitable for sparring with rebated steel swords or recommended as suitable for any such activity outside of olympic fencing.

[Nikos3000]

Yep, Sport 7 and Negrini are two such very companies that spring to mind, pre fitted with rear head guards even. Leon Paul widely accept that there coaching masks are common usage for historical fencing with steel weapons, they sell more to us now than sport fencing, Allstar too, both companies regularly sell to HEMA clubs and promote their usage.

[OmteZero]

There is no information on the Leon Paul website supporting your statment. All of their protective equipment is advertized for sport fencing only, not for sparring with rebated swords.

[MewEcks]

what you see here is also called fencing.

[poopwadmcgee]

yeah, fencing is the study of defence,.... defencing....

hence fencing. any weapon, is called fencing in the WMA.

and, THOSE FENCING HELMETS WORK

SHUT UP

[OmteZero]

Fencing masks are designed to protect against thrusts from sport fencing foil. epee and sabre NOT thrusts and cuts from rebated steel swords. Again, allowing thrusts to the face in this situation is unsafe.

[Nikos3000]

Get over it. Fencing masks are built to withstand massive high speed impacts from fine tipped weapons, are manufactured to the highest of safety standard, if you knew how hard an epee thrust can be, you'd understand that they are more than suitable.

Many sport fencing suppliers have realised this and are now selling their masks for historical fencing, so yes, many are intended for this now. Evidently you have little or no experience with what we are using, so why jump to conclusions?

[th7dude]

We all now how safe Kendo equipment is from tsuki don't we? Our equipment is perfectly safe and works very well with safety tipped (with rubber tips) steel swords. We do not have the breaks and damage problems associated with shinai also.

Peddle your shinai ways somewhere else please. This thread is a celebration of a grading.

[th7dude]

How is this a crazy thrust when it is controlled, with minimal force to a very well protected coaching mask. The blade is highly flexible and both tipped and padded sword at the tip? After over 10 years training this way I can tell you the only thing crazy are your attempts at being a intelligent. I assume you are a shinai user, probably kendo, trying to justify your own training methods over ours?

[OmteZero]

The guy with the all black mask on is a dangerous clown. At 4.18 he makes a crazy thrust right at his partners face that is nuts. This is the kind of ignorant and unsafe play that 'steel only' WMA longsword clubs seem to specialze in. Guess what. Fencing masks are NOT designed to protect against steel swords! Yes, even rebated ones. Fools.

[Nikos3000]

Quite the opposite, this is the kind of ignorance which seeks to pass off what you do not understand. We aren't a 'steel only' club, guess what, yes fencing masks are designed to protect from steel swords, give some thought before you speak. With correct protective gear, which we have, steel sparring is remarkably safe.

Leon Paul are well aware of the usage of their coaching masks in steel HEMA practice and support us in every way they can. Give a little consideration before you insult.

[Haartian]

@OmteZero

1600N masks are designed just to protect against steel, especially as springy as longswords. *cough* Fool. *cough*

[OmteZero]

@Haartian No, their for protecting against FIE swords not the type used in the vid. Dork.

[soundshade]

Great work. But try stepong around more. Will help to cut through his guard and score a hit

[Warcry666]

I´m shocked with the high level of your students!

Congratulations!

[Nikos3000]

Thanks a lot!

[bouncerboytimmy69]

Nice, i would like to ask you to try something, a high guard

[Nikos3000]

That was the one main critizism from onlookers afterwards, Jake does use Pflug almost all the time, this is mainly compounded by the very short grip and large pommel of his sword and relative bulkiness of gloves required to train this hard, a problem to soon be solved with the acquisition of a better training sword.

[GothenburgHFS]

congratulations jake and AHF!

[th7dude]

Congratulations Jake, a good series of bouts under pressure.

[Pods1000]

Good job! Looks a little too much like ard work to me ;)