آنها معتقد هستند کە آمار قتل و خشونت علیە زنان کرد از اطراف و همسایگان کمتر است تا جاییکە در ویدئو زیر یکی از سخنگویان یک حزب کردی، قتل ناموسی در "لندن"، "واشنگتن" و "پاریس" را با کردستان مقایسە می کند(دقیقە ١٦ بە بعد):
@rahmanjavanmardi به ريز کاک رحمان عزيز، موضوع تنها "رسانه آی" شدن اين امر نيست. در عصر حاضر ديگر همه چيز رسانه اي شده. "شايد" آنچه جای ترس اين احزاب است ( که ترسی بيجاست) سوء استفاده ء تبليغاتی کشورهای مجاور ان جمله ايران و ترکيه از اين قضايا و بيسامان نشان دادن وضع اجتماعی اقليم کوردستان است.
@rahmanjavanmardi بله، در لندن و پاريس هم قتل های خانوادگی رخ ميدهند که اکثرن توسط مرد ها صورت ميگيرد، اينجا در آلمان به آن "درامای خانوادگی" ميگويند، اما اگر در خانواده اي شرقی رخ بدهد ،فورن از قتل ناموسی سخن ميگويند.
سوال اينست که آيا اينجا فرق ها تنها نامگذاری های متفاوت يک پديده واحد مشکل ساز است يا جدن با دو پديده ء کاملن مجزا سر و کار داريم.
اما در واقع با "رسانەای" شدن و انتشار وسیع آن مشکل دارند(چون دیگر همە می دانند ترجمە یک خبر کردی برای فعال زنان در هر گوشە دنیا مشکل نیست، کما می بینیم کە در گزارشها بە سهولت از مترجم استفادە میشود)
در ارتباط با قتلهای ناموسی و خودسوزی زنان، احزاب سیاسی کرد و بە تبع انها نیروی قابل ملاحظەای از فعالین سیاسی کرد، از رسانەای شدن این پدیدە شاکیند و آنرا بە زبان می آورند.
فاکتور موثر دیگر ضعف این احزاب در درک کردن مسالە و آلودە بودن خود بە مردسالاری مفرط و زن آزاری را نشان میدهد.
درک غلط و محاسبە نادرست نیروها هم یک فاکتور عمدە دیگر است. یعنی مماشات این احزاب با نیروهای سنت گرای مردسالار و قشری در داخل جامعە و تفوق دادن انها بر نصف جامعە خویش کە زنان هستند در لاپوشانی و کم اهمیت جلوە دادن این جنایتها.
در انتشار کردی هم ممانعت شدە است. اما امروزە دیگر زبان کردی را بخشیدە و ایراد بە انتشار آن در زبانهای دیگر می گیرند.
....اما دلیل آنرا همانگونە کە در نیاز بە نیروی کار در بازار آزاد در نظامهای مدرن نباید بە حساب فمنیسم گذاشت و در رفرمهای اقتصادی قابل پیگیریست، این پدیدە را هم در رفرمهای سیاسی باید دید و در آن حد ارزیابی کرد(این خود یک مسالە قابل تحقیق است و فاکتورهای دیگری نیز در آن دخیل بودەاند).....ادامە دارد
احزاب سیاسی کرد ادعا می کنند کە نقش مثبتی در مدرن شدن جامعە کردی داشتە و بە زنان نقش مساوی دادەاند. شاهدی کە در اینبارە ارائە میدهند صرفن این واقعیت است کە "اجازە" دادەاند زنان وارد احزاب آنها شدە و یا در میان نیروهای نظامی خویش زنان را وارد کردەاند. البتە مشارکت سیاسی زنان در حضور در میان احزاب بە خودی خود یکی از حقوق انسانی و مثبت است، ....ادمە دارد
Bring in the cyborg cops, terminate all the arrogant women beaters. The beaters would probably take their wives hostage... but with laser like precision to the brain of the terrorist peace is just around the corner.
One of my best friends is a Kurdish male and he is one of the nicest men I know, as are many of his friends. He is like my older brother, very protective toward me and just a generally nice guy. Yes I am well aware some Kurdish men are biggots but you find that in every culture. I just wanted to give a positive view of Kurdish men as many of these comments are very negative.
Can you judge all Kurdish just because you met one bad Kurdish?
I'm Kurd from Kurdistan and I have never hurt any women in my life,and my dad always used to tell me oh my son don't ever fight or hit women even if they beat you.
2never fight with those men who you know you can beat easy, but if they are very strong and famous in fighting then don't ever allow them to take charge on you or judge or let you down.
of they do then you must beat them down.every nationalities have good and bad in them.
@snuppelupp28 sorry my friends about your words .im kurdish and i kews more than you. ppl respect woman but who dont keeping really islam or ppl miss undrestand about woman or family that kind of ppl make bad think about woman even about kids or old ppl see ya
For any Kurdish that see's this listen well...the same Kurdish powers you are fighting/protesting against for HUMAN RIGHTS right now are the same powers that we Assyrians have been dealing with for years. Civilized Kurdish are peaceful while the uncivil are fucking animals. The same Turkish/ Arab/animal mentality is what led to the genocide.The only Kurdish that died were the ones who didn't want to assist the Turks. Most of them did. Peace starts with women. FUCK YOUR HONOR.
if it's safe for kurdistan but why isn't safe for chaldean and assyras I hear that some kurdis what them out the out for chaldean and assyras? BUT I happy that Kurdistan people have thire right in Iraq finally!
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shut the fuck up ppl dont be fooled by this iam a kurdish girl i was in kurdistan women have no fucking right was so ever. women have more right from thire own family then stupid kurdish low life goverment. women have to right. goverment thire encorge thire familys to kill thire wifes and doughters. and beat them to death. fuck kurd fuck the goverment. i would rather be ruled by arab or turk or persion much better then stupid fucking kurdish big liying bitch
Very informative. It would have been even better if average men/woman were interviewed as well. Now we only hear the voices of Kurdian educational and political elite and some western professors.
Secondly Kurd fights with 4 different countries like Iran Turkey Syria and Iraq; they had special armies and very well trained army Iraq had third well trained armies in the world in 1980’s
Kurdish armies who known as Pishmarga were fighting with them and their biggest weapon they had was Kalashnikov,BKS, DshK and RBG.
While Iraq turkey Iran they have the best of Russian airplane (best helicopters (mi-24 ) best military airplane (MiG-21 Sukhoi Su-27)
the best of USA airplane F 15 Eagle best tanks guns and so on
And never mention Kurd were very small in number and they were sooooo big
Yet Kurd took control in north Iraq in 1991 with very small numbers of army’s very small amount and useless of weapon yet they armies were untrained, they simple didn’t have place to trainee their armies because they lived in high mountains.
Even today one of the strongest Islamic group in Iraq (Al ansar sunasuna
They are Kurds and their leader is Kurd, (Abu dullai shafiqi) (their first name was Jundu llah, and they changed to jundul Islam and then Ansarul Islam, they lived in Halabja but in 2003 after US and NATO came they moved to south to fight with US, NATO, UN, UK and so on,
Maybe today they have been mixed with Arab and other nationalities
biji kurd u kurdistan
ActOfRevenge1978 1 month ago
آنها معتقد هستند کە آمار قتل و خشونت علیە زنان کرد از اطراف و همسایگان کمتر است تا جاییکە در ویدئو زیر یکی از سخنگویان یک حزب کردی، قتل ناموسی در "لندن"، "واشنگتن" و "پاریس" را با کردستان مقایسە می کند(دقیقە ١٦ بە بعد):
rahmanjavanmardi 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rosaryfilms
@rahmanjavanmardi به ريز کاک رحمان عزيز، موضوع تنها "رسانه آی" شدن اين امر نيست. در عصر حاضر ديگر همه چيز رسانه اي شده. "شايد" آنچه جای ترس اين احزاب است ( که ترسی بيجاست) سوء استفاده ء تبليغاتی کشورهای مجاور ان جمله ايران و ترکيه از اين قضايا و بيسامان نشان دادن وضع اجتماعی اقليم کوردستان است.
yarffmde 2 months ago
@rahmanjavanmardi بله، در لندن و پاريس هم قتل های خانوادگی رخ ميدهند که اکثرن توسط مرد ها صورت ميگيرد، اينجا در آلمان به آن "درامای خانوادگی" ميگويند، اما اگر در خانواده اي شرقی رخ بدهد ،فورن از قتل ناموسی سخن ميگويند.
سوال اينست که آيا اينجا فرق ها تنها نامگذاری های متفاوت يک پديده واحد مشکل ساز است يا جدن با دو پديده ء کاملن مجزا سر و کار داريم.
yarffmde 2 months ago
اما در واقع با "رسانەای" شدن و انتشار وسیع آن مشکل دارند(چون دیگر همە می دانند ترجمە یک خبر کردی برای فعال زنان در هر گوشە دنیا مشکل نیست، کما می بینیم کە در گزارشها بە سهولت از مترجم استفادە میشود)
در ارتباط با قتلهای ناموسی و خودسوزی زنان، احزاب سیاسی کرد و بە تبع انها نیروی قابل ملاحظەای از فعالین سیاسی کرد، از رسانەای شدن این پدیدە شاکیند و آنرا بە زبان می آورند.
rahmanjavanmardi 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rosaryfilms
فاکتور موثر دیگر ضعف این احزاب در درک کردن مسالە و آلودە بودن خود بە مردسالاری مفرط و زن آزاری را نشان میدهد.
درک غلط و محاسبە نادرست نیروها هم یک فاکتور عمدە دیگر است. یعنی مماشات این احزاب با نیروهای سنت گرای مردسالار و قشری در داخل جامعە و تفوق دادن انها بر نصف جامعە خویش کە زنان هستند در لاپوشانی و کم اهمیت جلوە دادن این جنایتها.
در انتشار کردی هم ممانعت شدە است. اما امروزە دیگر زبان کردی را بخشیدە و ایراد بە انتشار آن در زبانهای دیگر می گیرند.
rahmanjavanmardi 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rosaryfilms
....اما دلیل آنرا همانگونە کە در نیاز بە نیروی کار در بازار آزاد در نظامهای مدرن نباید بە حساب فمنیسم گذاشت و در رفرمهای اقتصادی قابل پیگیریست، این پدیدە را هم در رفرمهای سیاسی باید دید و در آن حد ارزیابی کرد(این خود یک مسالە قابل تحقیق است و فاکتورهای دیگری نیز در آن دخیل بودەاند).....ادامە دارد
rahmanjavanmardi 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rosaryfilms
احزاب سیاسی کرد ادعا می کنند کە نقش مثبتی در مدرن شدن جامعە کردی داشتە و بە زنان نقش مساوی دادەاند. شاهدی کە در اینبارە ارائە میدهند صرفن این واقعیت است کە "اجازە" دادەاند زنان وارد احزاب آنها شدە و یا در میان نیروهای نظامی خویش زنان را وارد کردەاند. البتە مشارکت سیاسی زنان در حضور در میان احزاب بە خودی خود یکی از حقوق انسانی و مثبت است، ....ادمە دارد
rahmanjavanmardi 2 months ago in playlist More videos from rosaryfilms
Bring in the cyborg cops, terminate all the arrogant women beaters. The beaters would probably take their wives hostage... but with laser like precision to the brain of the terrorist peace is just around the corner.
jaymorpheus11 5 months ago
One of my best friends is a Kurdish male and he is one of the nicest men I know, as are many of his friends. He is like my older brother, very protective toward me and just a generally nice guy. Yes I am well aware some Kurdish men are biggots but you find that in every culture. I just wanted to give a positive view of Kurdish men as many of these comments are very negative.
Thanks for the video :)
annie6939 1 year ago 3
there is no "kurdistan" nort iraq is historically ashur (assyria) kurdish gyspies can go back to the mountains of iran
AssyrianQatola 1 year ago
Can you judge all Kurdish just because you met one bad Kurdish?
I'm Kurd from Kurdistan and I have never hurt any women in my life,and my dad always used to tell me oh my son don't ever fight or hit women even if they beat you.
2never fight with those men who you know you can beat easy, but if they are very strong and famous in fighting then don't ever allow them to take charge on you or judge or let you down.
of they do then you must beat them down.every nationalities have good and bad in them.
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halabja11 1 year ago
very informative!!!
chiplacey11 1 year ago
@chiplacey11 - thank you!
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LONG LIVE AMERICA
LONG LIVE ISRAEL
LONG LIVE KURDISTAN
krascorpion 1 year ago
Very informative video.
Thank you
77Merav 1 year ago
@77Merav - you are very welcome!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
Kurdistan have NO RESPECT for woman!!!! DONT EVER MARRY A KURDISH MAN!!!
snuppelupp28 1 year ago
@snuppelupp28 sorry my friends about your words .im kurdish and i kews more than you. ppl respect woman but who dont keeping really islam or ppl miss undrestand about woman or family that kind of ppl make bad think about woman even about kids or old ppl see ya
abutawheed1 1 year ago
I LIKE KURDISH PEPOLE, and nice woman!
googooloo777 1 year ago
This documentary was amazing
Thank You
mashad0 2 years ago
you are very welcome!
rosaryfilms 2 years ago
For any Kurdish that see's this listen well...the same Kurdish powers you are fighting/protesting against for HUMAN RIGHTS right now are the same powers that we Assyrians have been dealing with for years. Civilized Kurdish are peaceful while the uncivil are fucking animals. The same Turkish/ Arab/animal mentality is what led to the genocide.The only Kurdish that died were the ones who didn't want to assist the Turks. Most of them did. Peace starts with women. FUCK YOUR HONOR.
ashthebartender1 2 years ago
@ashthebartender1 Most kurds did? Most kurds didn't even know that was happening. And the "assyrians" have an habbit to always work with our enemies
MsKurdishmusic 2 years ago 2
if it's safe for kurdistan but why isn't safe for chaldean and assyras I hear that some kurdis what them out the out for chaldean and assyras? BUT I happy that Kurdistan people have thire right in Iraq finally!
munchenm6 2 years ago
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shut the fuck up ppl dont be fooled by this iam a kurdish girl i was in kurdistan women have no fucking right was so ever. women have more right from thire own family then stupid kurdish low life goverment. women have to right. goverment thire encorge thire familys to kill thire wifes and doughters. and beat them to death. fuck kurd fuck the goverment. i would rather be ruled by arab or turk or persion much better then stupid fucking kurdish big liying bitch
saba92 2 years ago
You are not Kurdish.
Stop begging.
Thanks
asopaso07 2 years ago
@asopaso07 LOL who was that to?
NinaBella93 1 year ago
Very informative. It would have been even better if average men/woman were interviewed as well. Now we only hear the voices of Kurdian educational and political elite and some western professors.
kvonribbenburg 2 years ago
kvonribbenburg, thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 2 years ago
STUPID GOVERMENTS!
AssanKurd 2 years ago
really interesting and informative about an issue we don't hear much about in the west. Thanks for posting this!
Frozenpede 2 years ago 4
Frozenpede, thank you very much!
rosaryfilms 2 years ago
@Frozenpede - you are welcome!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
long live KURDISTAn
MEDIMPARATORU 2 years ago 3
Hmmm
ECTBWHO 2 years ago
Kurdistan is the safest part in Iraq
Kurdy1986 2 years ago 16
@Kurdy1986 not for long, just wait till the Americans leave, then you'll see whats going to happen to you kurds.
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@698eer
First of all I'm against all disbelievers’ government
Like Saudi Arabia Kuwait Egypt Iraq Iran Kurdistan and so on,
But we have to face the true
I’m Muslim, and yes I’m Kurd but I do not follow Kurd or Turk or Arab or Fars but I follow the Quran and sunnah nothing else.
We all know there was no American, UN or NATO in 1991! Till 2003 and Kurd were in control of south of Kurdistan which is known as north of Iraq today.
Even today Kurd is still in power,
halabja11 1 year ago
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@698eer
Secondly Kurd fights with 4 different countries like Iran Turkey Syria and Iraq; they had special armies and very well trained army Iraq had third well trained armies in the world in 1980’s
Kurdish armies who known as Pishmarga were fighting with them and their biggest weapon they had was Kalashnikov,BKS, DshK and RBG.
While Iraq turkey Iran they have the best of Russian airplane (best helicopters (mi-24 ) best military airplane (MiG-21 Sukhoi Su-27)
halabja11 1 year ago
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@698eer
the best of USA airplane F 15 Eagle best tanks guns and so on
And never mention Kurd were very small in number and they were sooooo big
Yet Kurd took control in north Iraq in 1991 with very small numbers of army’s very small amount and useless of weapon yet they armies were untrained, they simple didn’t have place to trainee their armies because they lived in high mountains.
halabja11 1 year ago
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@698eer
Thirdly
Even today one of the strongest Islamic group in Iraq (Al ansar sunasuna
They are Kurds and their leader is Kurd, (Abu dullai shafiqi) (their first name was Jundu llah, and they changed to jundul Islam and then Ansarul Islam, they lived in Halabja but in 2003 after US and NATO came they moved to south to fight with US, NATO, UN, UK and so on,
Maybe today they have been mixed with Arab and other nationalities
halabja11 1 year ago