Dying Man Forced To Crawl By Prison Officers at Grafton Jail

[kurokariyu33]

the screw are dogs they dont looked threaten the screws by klum, they are cold hearted dogs the screws in this video

[kurokariyu33]

fuking garbage how they can treat another human like this hope these bastards get what they deserve scum bags you screws are what you think you can treat human beings like garbage fuk you dogs hope you get your just deserves  the pigs you are

[DaveyC95]

Oops, that should say, what they are paid to do...The inmates have already been judged and sentenced by the courts, it is not up to the guards to add to that by incompetence or deliberate abuse...So what has really changed since the dark days of reception 'Biffs' and general mistreatment in NSW Jails? Any real rehabilitaiton programmes? Parramatta has finally closed, Bathurst downgraded years ago, and Grafton hopefully will face it's final chapter and be quietly closed and razed to the ground.

[DaveyC95]

Seems to me as though little has changed since the inquiry and subsequent report that was prompted by the royal commission into NSW prisons by Lord Chief Justice Nagle, I read that report last year and what an eye-opener!...Prison officers are responsible for the welfare of the inmates and to make sure they stay behind bars to serve out their sentences, that is what they are to do...I think it would be obvious to anyone if a person was as ill as this man was.

[sorrow962]

Who the fuck are you...judge judy??? they are at worst guilty of not giving a shit...poor I agree. but before you clamour for their blood they need a fair hearing just like you or I would expect. PS they didnt deliberately neglect...they deliberately did their jobs but didnt give a shit. To them it was probably another crim bunging it on. Poor attitude is not criminal just pathetic...there is no law against being pathetic.

[sorrow962]

The scenario you see is played out a hundred times a week in prisons across the state, sometimes the inmate wants to jump up and stab an officer, sometimes they are officer shopping to get to a clinic so they can load up on sleeping pills or whatever. Sometimes they just want their cell door open so they can throw boiling water in the face of the next staff member they see. In this case the crim was fair dinkum.....how were the officers to know they werent being set up for a stabbing????

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962  - the officers in this video do not look in fear of an assault at any stage and they don't make any attempt to search for a weapon. Add to this the fact that the prisoner has no history of violence and it seems that the officers in this vid are at best incompetent and at worst wilfully negligent.

[sorrow962]

@noteatpig2getha - The officers did their job, no it does'nt look pretty in your sanitised world, nevertheless the officers are not medicos. They are there to manage convicted criminals . I still remember when an officer was not far from retirement when he was kicked to death by an inmate, I walked into a gaol that afternoon with inmates laughing about it. Don't kid yourself prisons are what they are.........shitholes.

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 - I'm quite sure that prisons are shit holes and anybody that looked for a job in corrections and is suprised by this is obviously in the wrong job.

[sorrow962]

@noteatpig2getha - Firstly the job wasnt always a crap job.....once upon a time the crims knew where they stood, the prison officers knew where they stood. The lines are grossly blurred now because of the mamby pamby welfare "society done me wrong" mentality brought in by the welfare league. I went into the job with high ideals, problem is many years later I see 8 out of 10 crooks returning. They dont give a damn about society about you about me...its all about them.

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 - you sound jaded - time to find a new career.

[sorrow962]

To top it we have fuckwit generally incompetent state Labour pollies who probably watch Prison Break and think thats how it really is. Wake the fuck up, NICE PEOPLE DO NOT GO TO GAOL.......IT TAKES TOUGH MINDED BASTARDS TO KEEP THESE SCUMBAGS UNDER CONTROL. - SO THEY DONT GO OUT AND RAPE YOUR DAUGHTERS - STEAL YOUR CARS -MURDER YOUR SONS. Prison Officers are not perfect but they do a tough and thankless job, mistakes are made but hey thats the price we pay for living in an imperfect world.

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 -" mistakes are made but hey thats the price we pay for living in an imperfect world." ....and mistakes are sometimes punishable by law.

[sorrow962]

@noteatpig2getha So what are you saying.....these officers broke the law....what law??? maybe they lacked the tear jerking sympathy you think they should display. But that's not a crime, last time I heard they hadnt been charged with anything. Or do you know something the rest of the legal fraternity doesnt???

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 - the coronial inquest that re-convenes next year has the power to direct that charges be laid. If it is proven that these officers wilfully failed in their duty of care it's not unreasonable to expect that charges could be laid. As it stands they should be sacked anyway - incompetence won't be hard to prove.

[sorrow962]

For a start they are Prison Officers not guards.

Secondly get of your fucking moral high horses you armchair journalists.

Prison Officers deal with incompetent Management everyday , a Commissioner on more money that the state Premier and the Prime Minister combined...who has managed to run the system into the ground, a correctional system thats an absolute expensive inneffective shamozzle. We have prison staff bashed , sworn at, spat on , murdered, our families are often threatened.

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 ..."We have prison staff bashed , sworn at, spat on , murdered, our families are often threatened." - and we have mistreatment of prisoners - both punishable by law. Prison officers are not above the law just because their job is stressful.

[sorrow962]

@noteatpig2getha- I never said prison officers were above the law, and tell me ....how are inmates mistreated???.

[noteatpig2getha]

@sorrow962 - to deliberately neglect a person that you have a duty of care towards is mistreatment.

[mwds5240]

Yes they (the guards) should be sack and run out of town. The man should never have been in prison in the first place but for the actions of a dick-head magistrate Darryl Pearce. The family should sue the arse off the government.

[chrismforrester]

I look at both sides thank you. Everyone is trying to cover there butts. I said if a nurse was present it would be different did you ask why a nurse wasn't on duty cut backs, the officers did there job best to there ability (what would have you done in that situation) and also why was part of the video missing. The prisoner was there for a reason with a not so good record maybe if he had killed a member of your family while drunk driving you might think different that's all I have to say

[noteatpig2getha]

@chrismforrester - "(what would have you done in that situation)" - I would have looked closely at the inmate and actually inspected his injuries which would have given any trained first-aider an indication that he was in trouble - and I would have called an ambulance rather than wait three hours for a nurse to see him. I would have helped him walk to the new cell rather than crawl along the floor and I would have looked in the cell where the assault occurred and taken appropriate action

[zinger91]

@noteatpig2getha: really and would you do that 100 times a week, tell me that? There are some crims that pull that same act 10 times a night, only this time it was not act but it look the same. Prisons are not full of people who need help or who tell the truth. I have seen an officer responded to such a call for help, go to the cell and open it only to be put in a headlock and chocked out. DO NOT KID YOURSELF!!! 

[lukesdaccount]

@zinger91 - the hearing will continue next month - let's hope those responsible are dealt with accordingly.

[noteatpig2getha]

@zinger91 - Ian Klum had no history of deception or faking illness within the system. The officers in the video do not look as though they are wary or cautious of Klum but rather that they were indifferent and unconcerned with his condition. The officer that moved him with the foot would not have done so if he felt there was a chance that Klum was going to react.

[zinger91]

@noteatpig2getha UNLESS YOU HAVE WORKED THERE YOU SHOULD NOT BE COMMENTING ON THE LIFE IN SIDE PRISON.

and I can tell you haven’t worked in a prison because we cannot just call an ambulance you need legal orders to take an inmate out of a prison. You cannot just do it on a whim.

[lukesdaccount]

@zinger91 ...I can comment on what I like and this man could have been helped a lot earlier if their were diligent , professional officers on duty

[lukesdaccount]

@lukesdaccount = noteatpig2getha btw

[noteatpig2getha]

@chrismforrester "The prisoner was there for a reason... maybe if he had killed a member of your family while drunk driving you might think different that's all I have to say" - he was there to serve 6 months for minor offences - he didn't deserve to die and he didn't deserve to be treated with such contempt and indifference. The officers have a responsibility for the welfare of prisoners in their care - the only thing unusual about this incident is that we all get to see it.

[chrismforrester]

Yes this must be absolutely horrific for the prison officers they have a job to do they are dealing with criminals and the 7.30 report is absolutely discussing people are in prison for a reason it is not a motel its a jail and the officers are not Doctors

[noteatpig2getha]

@chrismforrester - this man was bashed until his brain was bleeding and he asked for help that took too long to come.The three officers involved will be sacked and if justice is done they will be charged and convicted for their negligence. I guess if they end up in jail they are fair game for the same treatment according to your logic.

[chrismforrester]

@noteatpig2getha Who bashed the man, not the prison officers, where is the man who bashed him free to walk the streets, the officers had know idea his brain was bleeding the officers have rules to abide by and if the nurse had of been on duty none of this would have happened blame the system not the officers I personally know one of the officers and he is the kindest man you would know.

[noteatpig2getha]

@chrismforrester - the man that bashed him may get away with it because of the incompetence of the officers involved. - the corrective service officers made no attempt to have a close look at his injuries as their first aid training and corrective services training would require.

" I personally know one of the officers and he is the kindest man you would know." - then maybe you're too close to the situation to be objective.

[gkavner]

This is absolutely horrific. Those officers must be sacked immediately and will do well not to end up in jail themselves. Their reaction to human suffering reminds me of Germany in the 1940s and has no place in Australia today.

The statement " I wonder if your views would have been different had this man accidentally killed a member of your family while disqualified from driving." seems to mean "he could have killed someone so he deserved to die in agony".

Justice for this man.

[reheko]

There is something sickening about the comments from "the pearceys" that try seem to justify the repeated acts of barbaric inhumanity by multiple officers on the grounds of Mr Klum's, erhh - driving record??? The video speaks for itself - are you seriously saying that its OK that this bleeding, dying man had to crawl across the floor because he was "known to the police and corrective services"?? Dunh Homer - he was in gaol - run by Corrective Services after being arrested by the police.

[ThePearceys]

How observant and clever of you to pick up that I might be a relative of Pearcey 10/10. Was I trying to hide anything? Klum was known to police and Corrective Services, and was banned from driving until 2030. I wonder if your views would have been different had this man accidentally killed a member of your family while disqualified from driving. He was under RN care within 35 minutes, RN had to be recalled from home, no nursing staff on duty. Subdural haemorrhage not known until CT scan

[johnnyhowardracistco]

@ThePearceys - absolute crap ! How is anything supposed to change when family members go beyond just supporting their own and actually start publicly supporting their actions ? The nurse didn't see Mr Klum for @ 3 hours - why suggest that he was under RN care in 35 mins when we are shown footage of him asking for help hours later and being told to shut up because people are asleep. Shame to the officers involved and shame on you "ThePeacheys" for your blind loyalty.

[ThePearceys]

As a member of the public, I attended this inquest. The claims by the ABC on the 7.30 report were incorrect in many areas.

They state that one officer after seeing the CCTV in court changed his statement, (Not true) he changed his statement prior to this.

Assistance WAS  offered to Mr Klum on the night but refused as he did not wish to be touched. (Also reluctant to be touched by the nurse.)

The officers were doing the job as taught

What's the saying,- Damned if you do & Damned if you don't!

[noteatpig2getha]

@ThePearceys ...why couldn't he get his statement right in the first place ? Mr Klum was repeatedly asking for assistance as is evidenced by this report and an examination by sight could have told anybody trained in basic first aid that a significant head injury had occurred and it shouldn't have taken three hours to realise this. It doesn't suprise me that he didn't want jail staff laying hands on him whenthey are so obviously incompetent.

[StepBack13]

@ThePearceys You're not "a member of the public"... you're clearly a relative of one of the three officers involved in this, David Pearcey. The name is pretty obvious.