@CommonRaven The mayday call came about 14 seconds after the initial collision and just as they were touching the ground, albeit in a rather rough way. Hence the radio message "We are down" as opposed to "We are going down."
@LosBombero well i quess that guy sound like he would have a little bit panic .. he said the 1st thing that he was trained to tell when he experiences crash
Bottom Line is a tree (blade) strike requires a Sudden Stoppage Inspection... Blades, head, powertrain and if required, power plant. And if there was any additional damge on the airframe...
Highlander, how do you go from "not much" to the whole airframe has to be torn down? And if you did take 2 months to do a Blackhawk you must've been in an AVIM or ASB unit...
"Think ill make it through there?" -"Nope." "Oh ye of little faith look how big that is" ..... ..... ..... "SHIT" -"GET IT UNDER CONTROLL "Cmon baby cmon cmon" -"GET IT UNDER F***ING CONTROL "I GOT IT I GOT IT I GOT IT" "THIS IS UNITED 974 DOWN AND STABLE" -"You god damn fucking noob im flying next time"
@highlander148 Regardless of how much damage there is the entire aircraft needs to be torn down and inspected. I was involved in an inspection of a Blackhawk that had a similar accident when I was in the Army. The inspections and test flights took almost 2 months to complete.....
@highlander148 Regardless of how much damage there is the entire aircraft needs to be torn doen and inspected. I was involved in an inspection of a Blackhawk that had a similar accident when I was in the Army. The inspections and test flights took almost 2 months to complete.....
I really don't think its going to cost 29 mil to fix that up guys, it didn't look like it was totaled. I would think just some rotor work would be the only major thing. But I am not an expert.
@gurd502 It would cost 29 mil. Its got more than just rotor damage, the shrapnel could peirce things, and it costs about 1 mil to get things check out.
@hellcatdave1 Well from what I researched, a Apache that was totaled cost 25.8mil to replace, so I don't see how you could go beyond that for repair thins one. And I cant find anything that says it costs 1 million to check out the helicopter, or how that can go up to 29mil. But like I said I am no expert.,I don't see why they would pay more to replace this one. Everything else I look at about it said that a new Apache goes up to 14 million.
@gurd502 Depends on the model. The AH-64D Longbow is 36 million dollars. Directly from Fedlog (army supply system). The information for a AH-64A is no longer availible because they dont make them anymore. I know that a UH-60A is 6.8 million so one could assume that a AH-64A or C is somewhere in the middle....
@adamski895RS You cant call us dumb for an accedent... we launched a nuke it hit the UK oh no "stupid americans" i dont think so we crashed a helicopter so what a small accedent there is to many english fails out there so why even comment?
It always kills me to hear that kinda rednecky drawl and colloquialisms connected to such an accident. I try not to connect that accent to why the military does dumb things, I'd probably make this kinda mistake and I don't have the country bumpkin slang, but still!
The human eye is not a visual organ adept at depth perception, except in natural light. The cones are not activated at very low ambient light, and, so, the rods are the principle cells that are tasked with depth perception: The cells will not fair as well as cones, in ambient light.
Not quite right, but good try. Depth perception is a product of binocular vision and depends on the visual acuity of two eyes. there is absolutely no way to have depth perception on a television screen or through goggles. The technique utilized for night depth peception is "monocular cues" (geometric perspective, retinal image size, aerial perspective and motion parralax)
Oh, I see. There is a lot more to depth perception, especially when flying. I had the opportunity of using night vision goggles while in the Air Force, and even with both eyes in use, I often found it difficult to gauge depth of field...or field of depth lol
I guess no one realized it was pitch black out and they were 30 feet off the ground to evade radar doing 80 knots. An oak tree clipped the rotar.They were looking thru there ihads. But the gunner did call it, oh well. New rotor.
I hate to say it but know a couple of helicopter pilots and honestly a British helicopter pilot would have been trained to not have risked taking that UNNECESSARY manoeuvre (Causing damage to an $18mil+ helicopter)
I bet they have changed the way helo pilots are trained since the release of this video.Especially width and depth perception tests ;P
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well you know nuketime201, an 18+ million dollar helicopter vs. uk fighting man / woman's life. we feel the same way son. i know several UK pilots also. they are some of the most disciplined, well trained, most capable defenders of your island that i know. yes, they fly NOE every night, all night, in rain, etc. thats what they do. they do it for you and they do it well boyeee. now thank a soldier and shut the fuck up. much love to Britian and all of the Armed Forces of the Crown. America.
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your stupid man the pilot lost control of the helo and the gunner asked HIM if he had control he said NOPE then repeated GET IT UNDER CONTROL GET IT UNDER CONTROL to the gunner, who was controlling the bird by then. They landed it safely and told the air controller they had crash landed and on the ground. Then the controller asks for there COC ( Coordinates of Crash site )
He may have tried to rationalize it that way, but it doesn't fly with me. Trees don't grow that fast and the small branches won't do that to a helicopter. I know this because I got in trouble for skinning the blades on branches a few years ago. To cause the vibrations we see in this video, it was something larger in diameter than twigs or small branches. Just my 2 cents....
A pilot's job is to be confident in his skills, a navigator's job is to know the pilot is overconfident.
Zeknif1 21 hours ago
Apache: ow, I hit a tree!!1! ...oowwww... I just need to lay down for a minute... ughh... does anyone have an ice pack
holyshticantfindanam 2 weeks ago
Someone got fired
Dregkar 3 weeks ago
@kamikazi. AVIM isn't as lazy or stupid as most people think we are, lol. :)
Sidewinder138 1 month ago
i think this damage coused rotor blade damage
WarGames999 1 month ago
@CommonRaven The mayday call came about 14 seconds after the initial collision and just as they were touching the ground, albeit in a rather rough way. Hence the radio message "We are down" as opposed to "We are going down."
bryUK 1 month ago
@CommonRaven .....you are right. I stand corrected.
LosBombero 3 months ago
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LosBombero 3 months ago
!r Squad 1 Wasting Apache
Saitek37 3 months ago
MAYDAY ??? Control the A/C first. The MAYDAY call was completely unnecessary.
LosBombero 4 months ago
@LosBombero well i quess that guy sound like he would have a little bit panic .. he said the 1st thing that he was trained to tell when he experiences crash
hackerisslv 3 months ago
Those guys are still peeling potatoes !
mrblujet 4 months ago
Pilot deserves bitch slap of epic proportions.
SonnyREast 5 months ago
Yup Ft. Campbell
pmyers88 5 months ago
11 killstreak
darjannp 6 months ago
Bottom Line is a tree (blade) strike requires a Sudden Stoppage Inspection... Blades, head, powertrain and if required, power plant. And if there was any additional damge on the airframe...
Highlander, how do you go from "not much" to the whole airframe has to be torn down? And if you did take 2 months to do a Blackhawk you must've been in an AVIM or ASB unit...
kamikazi99 6 months ago
lol its a flying machine, they were just driving on apache lolz
devilazpl 7 months ago
tell me why he didnt see the tree
nolifemerc 8 months ago
you know they got shit faced when they got back to base.
TheDevenrocks 8 months ago
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TheFanta913 9 months ago
noobs
outOFthePITT 9 months ago
Perfect emergency-landing. US Pilotes are the very best.
ElectroDanceDesaster 10 months ago 2
@ElectroDanceDesaster They are the best... except when they're hitting trees. :op
nexus1g 9 months ago
@highlander148 Regardless of how much damage there is the entire aircraft needs to be torn down and inspected. I was involved in an inspection of a Blackhawk that had a similar accident when I was in the Army. The inspections and test flights took almost 2 months to complete.....
dieslpower2 10 months ago
@highlander148 Regardless of how much damage there is the entire aircraft needs to be torn doen and inspected. I was involved in an inspection of a Blackhawk that had a similar accident when I was in the Army. The inspections and test flights took almost 2 months to complete.....
dieslpower2 10 months ago
Handled it like a champ!! Clipped a rotor, scrubbed off some airspeed and set her down on the deck. Right on man!!!
captain131295 10 months ago
That's what she said
gh4basketball 11 months ago 2
I really don't think its going to cost 29 mil to fix that up guys, it didn't look like it was totaled. I would think just some rotor work would be the only major thing. But I am not an expert.
gurd502 1 year ago
@gurd502 It would cost 29 mil. Its got more than just rotor damage, the shrapnel could peirce things, and it costs about 1 mil to get things check out.
hellcatdave1 11 months ago
@hellcatdave1 Well from what I researched, a Apache that was totaled cost 25.8mil to replace, so I don't see how you could go beyond that for repair thins one. And I cant find anything that says it costs 1 million to check out the helicopter, or how that can go up to 29mil. But like I said I am no expert.,I don't see why they would pay more to replace this one. Everything else I look at about it said that a new Apache goes up to 14 million.
gurd502 11 months ago
@gurd502 Dude, this thing has to have maintenance that costs alot more than the helicopter itself after about 240 hours of flight.
hellcatdave1 10 months ago
@gurd502 Depends on the model. The AH-64D Longbow is 36 million dollars. Directly from Fedlog (army supply system). The information for a AH-64A is no longer availible because they dont make them anymore. I know that a UH-60A is 6.8 million so one could assume that a AH-64A or C is somewhere in the middle....
dieslpower2 10 months ago
nice landing
Hummermaniac1 1 year ago
seems like an expensive way to cut a tree down.
alderaforall 1 year ago
Dishonorable discharge is in order. Those helicopters cost millions.
Omen4500 1 year ago
@Omen4500 they were civilians... go figure.
boxastingray 1 year ago
What ´happened for helo?
Noskillah 1 year ago
Red neck
mswforu 1 year ago
Best part of this is the southern accent pilot. Its like watching Jeff Foxworthy live..
If you think your helicopter is smaller then it its you might be a redneck :D
I have faith sir, just not in you :P
Wasdeq 1 year ago
I bet Viper from Top gun wouldn't say to this pilot, "give me a call, i'll fly with ya."
caneywaney 1 year ago
wonder if he thought he would keep his job after that to...kinda like how he thought he could fit thru the tree's lmao
aragon2235 1 year ago
Wonder what happened to the pilot after that...
Skyfel 1 year ago
Bet that gunner found a new pilot after that.
BlueStateChronicle 1 year ago
Way to end a career...lol.
FXWorldBeater 1 year ago
They show this vid at Rucker all the time lol
Penguins919209 1 year ago
Heh. If that's not in the airspace of Fort Rucker, Alabama, I'll eat an Apache rotor.
alfonzotan 1 year ago 11
@alfonzotan - It's a Campbell, he calls out the checkpoints for the Fort Campbell training area..
patmagroin20 1 year ago 12
@alfonzotan u mean fort fucker?
headhunter7766 1 year ago
@alfonzotan do you want it bonded or debonded?
Sparatan117 8 months ago
@alfonzotan better start eating
lamborghini1895 3 months ago
the apache was fapping
cuddlecurve 1 year ago 2
Can't say I blame 'em. It's like flying a Lamborghini or a Ferrari. You want to push the limits 'cause it's such an awesome bird.
GreyCoyote 1 year ago
Look at how close the altimeter got.
AlucardZero 1 year ago
Imagine the lifespan of a faith-based electrician.
Have confidence, never faith.
fredsfredX 1 year ago
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Stupid americans
adamski895RS 1 year ago
@adamski895RS - You sir, are a jackass
patmagroin20 1 year ago 2
@adamski895RS Go suck a tea bag
mepizzasmangled 1 year ago
@mepizzasmangled ooo yes old chap and ill stick some crumpets with that too, golly gosh im a chiney sweet oh yes i am gooddie goodie
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@adamski895RS You cant call us dumb for an accedent... we launched a nuke it hit the UK oh no "stupid americans" i dont think so we crashed a helicopter so what a small accedent there is to many english fails out there so why even comment?
mepizzasmangled 1 year ago
@adamski895RS Lol, you're country wouldn't even know what to do with an Apache you dumbass foreigner.
marhooba 1 year ago
@marhooba Isn't it better to do nothing with them, than smash them into the floor?
adamski895RS 1 year ago
@adamski895RS uhm, why would you do nothing with something that is 29million dollars?
marhooba 1 year ago
@adamski895RS bud your british your country is shit
poskyflyer 1 year ago
@poskyflyer I agree, why do you think I'm immigrating to Australia? :P
adamski895RS 1 year ago
@adamski895RS even worse
poskyflyer 1 year ago
He shoulda done a barrel roll.
Elthenar 1 year ago
Haha whoops :/
Hope he didn't get in too much trouble, everyone needs to have a bit of NoE fun every now and then :D!
tarkinfish 1 year ago
Well, they wont do that again!
Gemini838 1 year ago
oops
gotgank 1 year ago
Enemy apache inbou...never mind.
99thredballoon 1 year ago 17
@99thredballoon Fuck you call of duty faggot, this is real life
Imakeplanesboom 10 months ago
HAHA do you think the rear guy asked for a new pilot after that?
wolfstriked 1 year ago
how much did this cost the taxpayers?
i find his faith disturbing
stormranger6 1 year ago
cocky pilot = dead pilot
TheTruthHurtsYup 1 year ago
LOL he called it rofl
pantheist46n2 1 year ago
daytime flight. TADS is slaved fixed forward
maddog152fo 1 year ago
This never gets old. HAHA ! If I was the co-pilot I would have punched him in the face and say it was caused by the accident! Cockiness kills!
terrypen 1 year ago
Id-i-ot.
englandisthebest01 2 years ago
That's even funnier the second time around.
5C4RL373L1 2 years ago 2
moron pilot
kazunori123 2 years ago
The fact he's even flying an Apache means he's most definitely smarter than you , lol.
Everyone makes mistakes now and then.
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
look how big that is!
rofl
ppitm 2 years ago 4
nope... oh shiet!
tactical423 2 years ago
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jamesrobertmey 2 years ago
" think we'll make through there?" "nope"
lucky to be alive!
csmeltz 2 years ago
1. He needs to be grounded, re-schooled on apache abilities and terrain navigation.
2. He should be made to publicly apologize to the U.S. citizens for wasting tax dollars on suck an unneccessary maneuver
caneywaney 2 years ago 4
All I have 2 say is, Dat was 1 fucking expensive mistake. I'm glad it wast me!!!!
michaelangelscud 2 years ago 2
"Oh ye of little faith- FUCK"
Ragedhard 2 years ago 2
It always kills me to hear that kinda rednecky drawl and colloquialisms connected to such an accident. I try not to connect that accent to why the military does dumb things, I'd probably make this kinda mistake and I don't have the country bumpkin slang, but still!
Frederf220 2 years ago
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The Apache is a toycopter
hahahahaha
Live the Mi and Kamov!
xuxeta1977 2 years ago
... oh, you said NO?... my bad...
flyndublin 2 years ago
Famous last words!!
LTDreams 2 years ago
The human eye is not a visual organ adept at depth perception, except in natural light. The cones are not activated at very low ambient light, and, so, the rods are the principle cells that are tasked with depth perception: The cells will not fair as well as cones, in ambient light.
whiff1962 2 years ago
....especially when you have Cranial Rectalitis.
FlightLevelHeaded 2 years ago
Not quite right, but good try. Depth perception is a product of binocular vision and depends on the visual acuity of two eyes. there is absolutely no way to have depth perception on a television screen or through goggles. The technique utilized for night depth peception is "monocular cues" (geometric perspective, retinal image size, aerial perspective and motion parralax)
mightytalon28 2 years ago
Oh, I see. There is a lot more to depth perception, especially when flying. I had the opportunity of using night vision goggles while in the Air Force, and even with both eyes in use, I often found it difficult to gauge depth of field...or field of depth lol
whiff1962 2 years ago
ahahaha to funny
someonesperson 2 years ago 2
oops....fail....lol
kylecrs 2 years ago
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LetsPressPlayNow 2 years ago
"Think I can make it in-between there?"
- "Nope."
MisterDutch 2 years ago 42
Yeah, good luck explaining that one to your CO.
mrblujet 2 years ago 5
LOL Well, I guess faith doesn't fly helicopters!!
Some1fromYurp 2 years ago 6
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CallawayERCII 2 years ago
WTF? CHOKE YOURSELF! Not with your hands.....with my hands!
patmagroin20 2 years ago
wow taxpayers paying for retards to crash million dollar birds.
eclipsegtforme 2 years ago 7
"roger, can you give me the nature of your..."
I wish I heard the answer... wonder what he said?
N37BU6 2 years ago
"the nature of your emergency"?
patmagroin20 2 years ago
No, it's obvious what he was saying... I wish I heard the answer, not the rest of the question.
I'm sure it was something like "Uhh, I hit a tree because I'm a dumbass..."
N37BU6 2 years ago 6
aha...gotcha...my bad
patmagroin20 2 years ago
Did they get in trouble for being dumb asses?
tim9355 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure.
patmagroin20 2 years ago
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bwa. ha. ha.
ganjasaurusrex 2 years ago
oh, i hope that you decided its a no brainer son. spend the money, save the man! death before dishonor!
NCC1701zulu 3 years ago
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htis isnt even an apache,, its a huey
unitedstatesarmyrngr 3 years ago
I guarantee you that this is video from an Apache FLIR
patmagroin20 3 years ago
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ya....its not
unitedstatesarmyrngr 3 years ago
Yeah, it is. Stop making your Ranger brethren look bad.
patmagroin20 3 years ago
Ya..It is, that HUD is definitely the IHADS from the AH-64 Apache.
ICDWILL117 3 years ago
I guess no one realized it was pitch black out and they were 30 feet off the ground to evade radar doing 80 knots. An oak tree clipped the rotar.They were looking thru there ihads. But the gunner did call it, oh well. New rotor.
ltcurry 3 years ago
I fear they may of ruined more than that...
Kopihucky 2 years ago
why is the army so damn sloppy?
123yutt 3 years ago
I hate to say it but know a couple of helicopter pilots and honestly a British helicopter pilot would have been trained to not have risked taking that UNNECESSARY manoeuvre (Causing damage to an $18mil+ helicopter)
I bet they have changed the way helo pilots are trained since the release of this video.Especially width and depth perception tests ;P
Nuketime201 3 years ago
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well you know nuketime201, an 18+ million dollar helicopter vs. uk fighting man / woman's life. we feel the same way son. i know several UK pilots also. they are some of the most disciplined, well trained, most capable defenders of your island that i know. yes, they fly NOE every night, all night, in rain, etc. thats what they do. they do it for you and they do it well boyeee. now thank a soldier and shut the fuck up. much love to Britian and all of the Armed Forces of the Crown. America.
NCC1701zulu 3 years ago
My apologies I wasn't trying to compare Army's, just possible differing training standards.
America and the U.K. are Allies and will be till the end, I apologise for any ill feeling caused by my first message.
Thank you NCC1701zulu for you respect and mature way in which you replied, it made me think :)
Straight back at you guys in the states and abroad, strength and love to you all!
Nuketime201 3 years ago
i wonder how the pilot felt, haha, mustve been some National Guard Pilot, eh?
Taylor3211 3 years ago
fired. . . .
drufc 3 years ago
Yo man this is my grandfather flying, and I still think this shit is funny.
Highlighter910 3 years ago
I like how the gunner said "nope" very casually and didn't do anything to try and stop his idiot partner from crashing into the trees
Pkm188 3 years ago 2
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your stupid man the pilot lost control of the helo and the gunner asked HIM if he had control he said NOPE then repeated GET IT UNDER CONTROL GET IT UNDER CONTROL to the gunner, who was controlling the bird by then. They landed it safely and told the air controller they had crash landed and on the ground. Then the controller asks for there COC ( Coordinates of Crash site )
GodlessMartyr666 3 years ago
I think he was referring to whether he could make it in between the trees. He said nope, then just let him try it.
sheaauger 3 years ago
pilot: "think I'd make it in between there...?"
gunner: "Nope"
pilot: "Oh, ye of little faith, look how big that is..."
then... "MAYDAY, MAYDAY!"
jbperez808 3 years ago 30
@jbperez808 I think gunner and pilot should just swap seat!
FeelFree3 1 year ago
There aren't any flight controls in the AH64 in the gunners seat tard.
Gman45454545 3 years ago
Sorry, but there are flight controls up front. The cyclic is alot smaller and on the right side of the cockpit, but they are there.
patmagroin20 3 years ago
Fired.
hazard02 3 years ago
HA HA HA!
Oh wow...
"O ye of little faith"... Classic.:D
Kainlarsen 3 years ago 5
Way to flush millions of dollars down the tubes Army...
SgtATON 3 years ago 3
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Too bad this Yank hick didn't crash on a trailer park and take out himself and dozens of worthless American white trash...
thechamp9876 3 years ago
every time we have invaded your silly North country it has turned out badly (1779, 1812)
BUT I THINK ITS TIME TO TRY AGAIN
HisMajestyOKeefe 3 years ago 3
Typical cocky Yank military.
Podorsk 3 years ago
Better to be cocky than to just be a cock, PODEORSK.
patmagroin20 3 years ago
He may have tried to rationalize it that way, but it doesn't fly with me. Trees don't grow that fast and the small branches won't do that to a helicopter. I know this because I got in trouble for skinning the blades on branches a few years ago. To cause the vibrations we see in this video, it was something larger in diameter than twigs or small branches. Just my 2 cents....
patmagroin20 4 years ago
as i recall from comments on this video elsewhere, the pilot had gone through that gap before but the trees had grown in the meantime. eh.
bartlebybartleby 4 years ago
bullshit
SudoJim 3 years ago
thanks for the input jim
bartlebybartleby 3 years ago
the guy was an idiot, sorry... there is no justification for what he did :)
SudoJim 3 years ago
what i offered wasn't a justification :)
bartlebybartleby 3 years ago
Next Time if it doesn't look like you're going to make it then don't try to
jumpingchicken69 4 years ago 4
excellent advice...
patmagroin20 4 years ago
Yeah, I agree. Type "A" personalities sometimes don't think about the risk as much as they should...
patmagroin20 4 years ago
Is that why they called type "A"?
Ill bet thats an old joke
tjmac7 4 years ago
That pilot is an idiot, risking his life and his copilots life for nothing.
slashsound 4 years ago 5