Soulforce "Focus on the Facts" Civil Disobedience Part One

[2malo]

signs....watch....pray....he is coming soon

[Itchhhh]

sigh. . . . As much as it stinks. If you put your hand on a hot stove, your going to get burned. The same is true about Gods Word! If you go against it, your going to get burned (sooner or later). If Gods Word is not true then he cannot be God.

I guess this is all just an inconvenient

truth

[taitaisanchez]

Okay but there are so many things that are against God's word that are acted upon EVERY. DAY. by the current bush administration, and yet, they're not being burned by God for much more serious infractions of God's law. Unknown thousands dead and God's pissed about gays!?

[BenAliGtor]

If Dobson were really so interested in "dialogue" rather than "monologue", he would take calls from listeners on his radio program. He doesn't. And that's one more reason why we need the FCC Fairness Doctrine brought back as Federal law. Dobson and his crowd, like all bullies, are cowards. And they fear the requirement of providing equal time for opposing viewpoints on the public airwaves a lot more than they fear sit-ins by well mannered and well spoken individuals such as Dotti and Robynne.

[mbelma6329]

Actually I think he does allow call-ins. How often do you listen to his show?

[soschadao]

i am sitting down with them, to bring truth to the people.i grew up sevnth day adventist and i am tired of the anti gay harrassment i got from my former church members.

[jeffhoverson]

I think this just shows how far the soulforce community is willing to go to "stage" a sympathy show. The #1 tactic used by this movement is to get people to feel sorry for them. It was funny to see how these ladies acted like martyrs. I should try that. Just go sit down at one of their organizations and put a sad face on.

[dpmduran]

Yes, the same tactics Jesus used, to shock people into seeing the truth of his teachings.

He would be an outcast now, even more. Jesus would be at a Soulforce meeting, I'm sure of it.

Sad? Yes, very.....

[lillyofthevalley01]

I completely agree,Jesus would probably be at the soulforce meetings,as well at alchoholic meetings,and bars etc.Jesus always went where the lost were Homosexuaity is not a "group" of stereotyped ppl. At least it should not be.God loves the sinner but he hates the sin. As is true for adulty, lieing,cheating.there is no sin above the other. need to realize that God's grace is big enough to forgive any sin in our lives.We are all sinners who if ones willing can be made clean by the blood Christ.

[weasle4u2]

once again..... if you do not prescribe to the 'beliefs' and "teachings" of FotF, they will harrass and/or try to intemidate into complience with their views and "morals".. I will just say to the ladies in this video, Keep up the fight for what you believe to be right and just.... for your cause is!!

And BTW if any one care to know, Im Heterosexual, but I believe that gay rights are not Special right.... just EQUAL rights.

[chaplain64]

What did they think would happen?

[kixxx96]

Immoral minds= Immoral behavior.

You can't expect positive remarks about the women's immoral behavior! This group disrespected a respectable and Godly building.

This is truly evil at work.

[littleemogamer]

I don't quite understand how the building of an organization - that's sole purpose is to further negative and antigay rhetoric - is Godly...

Evil is murder. Evil is rape. Evil is endangering the lives of your fellow Christian brothers and sisters by preaching hatred and intolerance.

Matthew 5:6 says, "God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice." That's all those two women wanted. God bless them.

[chaddirects]

I whole-heartedly agree.

[dpmduran]

Evil is hate, and your post is immoral!

[amsoho75gr]

a IRS raid would be better

[PyratBoi]

AwESOME!

When my mother was beginning to realize I was queer she turned to focus on the family for answers in faith.

They told her i was an abomination.

She still believes that.

Go LADIES!

[RickJamesham]

No, you are not an abomination; it is the sin of homosexuality that God says is an abomination in His sight. God still loves you and He will totally forgive you and give you the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ, but you must repent of the sin. May God help you to understand His love for you.

Please read 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Verse 11 speaks of those who were guilty of certain sins, but they repented and were made totally clean by God's grace and the blood of Jesus. Take care.

[dpmduran]

If you go by Bible quotes, we would all be murdering our neighbors, as a sacrifice to God!

The Bible is full of quotes, that don't even make sense, which any spiritual person knows it's not what Jesus would say, or act like!

Sad, but typical of some of the Christian community. Thank God not all, or most are like that. They know better, and simply let people be who they are, and know God loves them. The only sin committed here is the excuse to not accept God's diversity of creation.

[beancube2008]

How many people die everyday because of traffic accidences. You can find all the faults people do not have control of, but do you, a God chosen, find anything to improve the making of automobiles that somehow correct these problems?

[simplylite]

Umm, wow, this vid shouldn't even be on youtube because like the media director said starting at 3:40...

FOTF gets say in who/what gets to film in their building. It's their property.

And obviously, FOTF is never going to "recant" so this so called protest was a waste of time.

[zaktuta]

HOMOSEXUALITY IS A HATE CRIME

[Embee1980]

Go Dotti and Roby!! Take 'em for truth!

[pemaz1]

Where is our freedom of speech...? We can express our beliefs, thats why we are in a free country. And why should the gay and lesbian have special privileges? If you want to express your life style to the public, there no reason why other people shouldn't be allowed to express what they believe.

[Briongloid08]

Where is our freedom at all, period?

Until homosexuals have rights, things like this will and should be happening. You can say whatever you want, but so can they.

[sammy1251980]

Yeah but pemaz, these lesbian women were not expressing their lifestyle to the public, they were imposing it on private property. they were violating other people's civil rights, and that was wrong.

[Lovely1906]

how can u demand a apology... i don't understand....

[az882004]

GO GAYS! GAY ALL THE WAY!

[Talithapraiz]

IT is wrong for these people to go into his place of business and cause public disturbances. As a person of color I am deeply offended when a gay or lesbian person compare what they choose to go through the civil disobedience of the 50's and 60's.

It is not the same and to make this comparison is dishonest.

[Whitese7en]

James Dobson proclaims the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you have a problem with God's truth, take it up with Him, not James Dobson. After all, He (God) is the final arbiter anyway. When you stand before your creator one day and are asked to give an account of yourself, God will be the one to judge you, not James Dobson.

[columbusclipper]

Dobson most likely thrives on the power he gets. Right-wing Christians are what allowed Bush to win in 2004. And if Bush is a real Christian, then monkeys fly.

[Armetius]

Very well then, I will choose God over James Dobson. I will not listen to spiritual threats to get me to follow your cult leader.

[Whitese7en]

James Dobson preaches the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ so if you disagree with the truth, take it up with God, not James Dobson, after all, He(God) is the final arbiter anyway.

[steveascension]

I don't believe homosexuality is a viable alternative to the human reproductive process. My fear is that it has already caused a decline in births in the western world. You do not find this decline in third world countries or especially good Muslim nations. Do these alternate practices go against the evolution principles of dominance of the species and survival of the fittest?

[columbusclipper]

And in third world countries you get poverty and disease.

[bobalinko]

and arent the intellectually modified homosexuals who jump out of their seats close their eyes and shut their ears when they get their "gay" feelings hurt.

[bobalinko]

i think itssad gays misinterpret dobson and take half ass attempts at listening to him only to become angry when it doesnt agree with how they wish to express themselves outwardly in the public. i know gay people who listen to dobsonregularly and totally agree with how he feels onthese issues solely because they actually take the time to understand

[bobalinko]

oh and by the way is Focus on the Facts supposed to be an insult to Dr.Dobson or a mockery of some sort because if so i believe dobson's in turn for an apology.

[bobalinko]

Ok so james dobson stands for family values, biblical truth and reliability and for that he's attracted a crowd with open ears, you stand for 69, scissoring, public displays of indecency and affection, two penis's getting married in a church gay PARENTS, and all of the other sick and twisted things people who arent gay shouldn't have to be questioned on their rejection of exposure to.

[tjw12]

Why is Focus on the Family at fault here? Dobson preaches biblical facts. James Dobson does not have the authority to recant what the God says in the Bible. I am not sure that you can describe making demands on private property as peaceful. To get the change you are looking for, you have to well above Dobson's head, you have to ask God about it and if you do, I am sure He will give you peace and real answers

[10ago]

It's wrong for Dobson to insist that people must live according to his religious beliefs.

[columbusclipper]

What pisses me off about Dobson and Reed is that they try to mix politics with religion, colluding with politicians when the politicians and focus on the phallus people try to make public law reflect Biblical principles. It's called mixing politics with religion, and that's unconstitutional. Plus, Republicans use family values to get votes, only to take luke warm positions on them when they take office.

[Talithapraiz]

Focus on the Family is not at fault and should not be targeted because his views are not PC. He has a right to espouse those things that he beleives are right.

[almonkitt]

he tells lies all the time and its in the name of god so we cant say anything? b.s.! -back in the day the kkk did the same dam thing!

[alcina5]

who is this Dobson character,the leader of the american taliban?

[wntoply6]

yes he does have a right to expouse those kings he believes are right, but so does the kkk.

but there comes a point when the kkk went over the edge, and left to his own devices dobson would do the same thing the kkk did to blacks.

give us all a break talith and help stop bigotry and dobson before he thinks he has the right to kill those not like him. he's a sick old fool.

[lawnmanmo1]

RECANT???? You will be waiting for a VERY LONG TIME. It will never happen.

[simo3300]

If Jesus were to visit us in the flesh today, I doubt he would seek out the politicos of our day such as FOTF folks. He would instead seek out the down trodden, the oppressed, and the poor among us.

[johnlorican]

Apparently if you don't like the religious perspectives of someone in this country, you should engage in a civil disobedient 'sit-in' and DEMAND an apology. I can just imagine how a Christian evangelical couple would be treated if they entered a political gay rights organization and 'demand an apology' for the inflammatory rhetoric one hears virtually every day against Christians from homosexual groups.

[OliverBoliverButt]

You're exactly right. The one thing that the "tolerant" can not tolerate is a decenting view point.

tolerant |ˈtälərənt| adjective 1 showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with : we must be tolerant of others | a more tolerant attitude toward other religions.

Dictionary v 1.0.1 ©2005 Apple Computers, Inc.

[rextrek]

Give me a friggin break you tard! Gays and Lesbians aren't trying to prevent these "so-called religious grps" rights...but, they have no problem trying to keep gays and lesbians from having equality!

[tpeabody1970]

If Jesus is coming back, I hope he does soon! Shine the Light.

[nlsngrc]

As I noted elsewhere, I admire very much the courage of both Miss Berry & Miss Sapp for putting themselves on the line like that, but, getting arrested doesn't prove anything.

[cschott64]

Wow. And these people claim to be the "tolerant" ones? Nice hypocrisy...

[senzafine]

Courage? Who goes onto private property and "demands" an apology? Well...obviously Dotti and Robynn. What a waste of time.

I'm not a fan of Dobson. But if someone came into my place of work and demanded an apology...it would crack me up.

[Talithapraiz]

WHat is couragous about trespassing and disrupting people at work? This ministry has a right to operate without harrassment. IF Dobson were to go to protest or sit in at a gay or lesbian place of business the public outcry would be heard from every news source. Why is it okay for them to be disruptive and harass him when it would not be tolerated if he were to do it?