why wasn't he using the entire side of the road to his advantage?!?! Leaning way too much when it isn't necessary & not keep yellow to white & white to yellow rhythm to make turns
Looks like his peg or something dug and spun him. None the less, I hope the rider was alright. For those of you people bashing the motorcycle riders, you need to relax. The dragon was practically designed for motorcycles! :)
Sorry you spilled ..... That's always a shit thing. I saw you zigzagging warming up the rubber sometimes hitting the paint lol...... And what was your knee doing? Bro you weren't even going hard at all. The tires cooled off because of that lol shady sun patched road?
that corner is called beginers end.the speed limit is 30mph and it is very clear none of you commenting have ever been their.i live in maryville and ride 10000 miles a year on the us 129.if you want to see how to ride the road go to US129 PHOTOS.com and watch jareds video.
Hwy 129 isn't your normal curvy road, turns are very tight and banked differently , best to ride it slow first time to learn the road then progress up gradually if you aren't very experienced rider. Natahalla Skyway has turn 10 I think it is banked wrong , away from the curve, you get to going too fast and forget where you then wham! Into the guard rail you will go! Saw that on back side of Mt Evans in Colorado, new sportbike, got into series of curves that were fast then hit tight turn!
assuming he knew the road was wet, why didn't he warm his tires a little more? a little trip down the road a couple miles and back would have helped a great deal! GLWS! :)
After watching several times, it does not look like his tire ever made it to the yellow line. His leg bobbles just before he goes down. It almost looks like maybe he his boot (boot between road and peg) and freaked him into just dumping it down (just takes one small nudge of the handlebar at that lean angle).(or the foot bump could have unweighted the wheel just enough to slide it).
No 1 - He wasnt racing #2 road bike with medium to hard compound , not good on a slick wet road , not good when any-one goes down , here , there and everywhere.
@teasemeagain A motorcycle still retains the vast majority of its traction on wet pavement. This motorcycle went down because of poor riding skill. The rider wasn't using a delayed apex to negotiate the curve...he entered the curve incorrectly. Thus, through lack of skill, he ended up not having enough lane to negotiate the curve and had to end up on the double yellow line. If he had entered the curve properly, he wouldn't have had to go near that double yellow line. Lack of skill.
@tugboatwille youre a moron. you do realize that the majority of incidents reported are due to HARLEY riders wrecking. your typical SS rider is much more safe than 99.99% of any driver on the road. Wearing full gear, staying in your lane, and not riding PAST your limit is what is SAFE. You dont have to go slow to be safe. moron. go back to your bubble wrap life.
@4ThatGuy4 I said watabe road racers I didn't specify what motorcycle! there guys on just about every type of bike that wreck trying to do something there not capable of.I ride a Yamaha and have since the early 60's.when I did the go fast thing I did it on a track where it belongs! from your responce you are the problem ,the one that thinks laws are for the bubble wrap people,the one weaving in and out of traffic,pulling wheelies at 80 in a 55 zone.the reason we have laws about seizeing bikes!!
@tugboatwille apparently you did not actually read my post. i never said anything about reckless driving (wheelies, weaving,etc), and i never said laws are for bubble wrap people. Many laws are in place for a good reason. However, some laws are unnecessary and blatantly overbearing. Like a mother who wont let their children play outside because there is nature outside!!! Look at the autobahn. 100+ speeds and then look at the incident stats. Hmm. interesting huh.
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It's an old scenic US Highway, not the Nurburgring. Go to the track you wannabe F-1, Super Moto Champions!!!!!!!!!! The best thing that could happen is to shut it down to any bike other than SAE and Metric Cruisers. Oh yeah, and anyone with a camera car filming them, or a helmet cam.
@ballparkweiner1 where's your sense of adventure? when the nurburgring is opened to the public, it becomes a PUBLIC ROAD. the difference is, Germans know the consequences of getting it wrong, and pay the price if they do, where Americans always want to blame somebody else for being incompetent, and pay a lawyer to pass the buck. how about a little responsibility for our own actions? we know the risks and don't need another "mommy or daddy" to think for us.
@odortiz I like fun as much as the next guy, but when riders start layin it down because of showing off, Big Brother steps in and kills it for rest. Far as I know no deaths have occured at Deal's Gap, but it could happen. Might be a mom yellin at kid in a SUV that gets in your lane (Been there, done that). Might be a couple kids in a Yota thinking they're the next Kenny Block. Remember it's not YOU that you gotta worry about. 20 MPH speed limit & speed cameras screw us all. Respect the Dragon.
@sentry964 i agree with you. but the real problem is our society and big brother. i wish they would just post a sign up that said "you are on your own" and let nature take its course.
@sentry964 People die every year at deal's gap. It was 6 or 7 last season I do believe. All because of dumb stuff. I love the dragon, but you can't just go up there thinking you're just going to ride it. This 11 miles of road is not for the novice. Unfortunately, this guy just picked a bad day to ride it.
@ballparkweiner1 you are a jackass! The guy is not even going fast! I have seen more cruisers crash then anything there. half of them cant even ride out of the parking lot with out tipping over! why would you even want to ride a bike that turns like ass on the gap?
go drink beer and rev the piss out of your gay ass cruiser somewere else!!
@redsuncivic Thank you for your reply and insightful comments. But, I don't drink, and I have never revved the urine out of any of my H-D's. As far as I know, only living creatures, not Motorcycles, can be Hetero or Homo,...but you seem like an authority on these finer points.
Could have been much worse: a car might have decapitated him as he cornered with his whole torso in the oncoming lane. You need to be aware of where your body is, not just your tires.
@deepdickn247 nah. i'll just use a few things other "drivers" never use. judgement, skills, and vision. when i need advice on what to do in prison, i'll ask you.
@odortiz Just another ignorant organ donor. Keep doing what you think is right and you'll end up like my friend who has one leg and lives in a hospital bed.
I will be riding it in a month on a big HD touring bike, Still kind of new so I will be taking it nice and easy....enjoying the scenery. My sport bike days are over. :)
saw that coming from the start. bike was all out of shape the minute he got on it. setup way off. his legs hanging off both sides all the time LMAO there goes any kind of balance. this is clearly the prime video of how not to ride a bike. this should be shown in all motorcycle safety coarses.
I see this stuff happen there every time i go. Dragon didnt bite you, lack of technique and knowledge on how to ride did... it is clear the second he starts zig zagging. what does that do for you exactly? because im sure its not what you think.
Well the car being able to keep up with you tell the whole story. But looks like you hit a slop in the road with your peg... could have happen to anyone.. keep riding!!! but be safe :)
Puppalucci is right. His front end washed out on the painted line causing him to lowside it. In the damp / wet .. stay off the paint, kiddies ! its like glass !
Need to work on body position bro. Ur outside leg isn't holding the tank like it should and u need to open ur hips to the turn. Sorry u wiped out man. B safe out there bro.
Poor cornering positioning of the body.. thats all. (no tyre glaze no wet road no loss of grip) didnt lean his own weight of to one side. all he did was poke a knee out and leaned the b ike itself over (INSTEAD OF HIMSELF) AND THE PEG HIT THE ROAD CAUSING A LEAVER EFFECT LIFTING HIS BACK WHEEL OFF THE GROUND.
Ironically, that curve is named Beginners' End. Low speed lowside to the ditch is the best crash you can hope for at Deals Gap. If you must crash there, that's the best way to do it.
And a little word of wisdom for you crotch rocketeers, wagging the bike at the beginning of a run just tells experienced riders you have no clue what you're doing.
the reason he crashed was because he hit the dampened yellow lines with the tire... those lines when they are damp are pretty slick compared to the roads surface... we use those to burn out sometimes even when its not wet cause they have less traction...
He has taken the apex to early, come in to aggressive on the center line - at the angle he is at it's very easy to drop your bike on paint. You can see he hit his pegs after he slips on the lines, poor bugger would be devoed
Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Doesn't take much to lose traction on the paint though. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Doesn't take much to lose traction on the paint though. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Looks to me like the rider hit the center line and lost traction on the front wheel. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
Been there but did not crash.... parts of the Dragon are damp all day long (at least when I was there for 3 days). SInce there are so many tall trees covering the tail and the mountain draws drew/rain.. it is hard to tell until.. to late. Of course, I dont knee drag, and I also ryde with a passenger 98% of the time there. Nice place though !
he think cuz he sticks his knoee out he is a pro...you need to learn how to ride and corner the proper way...try California superbike school for corners..or stay off the road you putz!!!!
This may sound like some crazy questions odoritz, but how was the wind blowing on that day that he went down and do u think that affected his handling of the motorcycle?
When will people learn that you must get your upper body off to the inside of a corner and dropped down so that your head is at the level of your handlebar. Just sticking your knee out is not proper riding position for a corner. Taking a corner with the correct body position will reduce the amount of lean angle your bike needs to carry and thus, reduce the chances of exceeding the limits of traction. It's not just for the track.
@zenrr1 I gotta agree with you...I'm more of a cornering guy than an "All Out Speed" guy and in faster corners I always get down and "bar level" so to speak along with a touch of counter-steer. But you let "the secret" out of the bag. I've always been more than able to run with faster bikes on my porky 12 yr old CBR1100 because of this technique over the bolt upright and stick out a knee style! LOL!
@zenrr1 so true most bikers will look at this and think ok hes exagerating the movements hes gonna be off very quickly lol. but what you are saying is the reason i believe that ppl should learn on cbr 600's specifically the f3 (95-98) i do corners at 80mph with about a half a cm off the tire wall and no were neer a knee down.
it looked like he had plenty of traction, he just leaned too much and crossed over the line and either freaked out or touched with the foot peg. or maybe the front tire slipped on the painted line like most comments here suggest
Either he hit the rear brake or just wasnt accelerating fast enough out of the turn. Either way it was a lowside and hes lucky. Pick it back up and keep riding man, things happen.
@bjmc202 yeah thats waht it looked like to me as well. Hit the paint witht he front tire and it went out from under him. That shit can get slippery as hell once it get some water on it.
Gonna have to say it was the paint that did it... If you watch close you will see the skid mark start on the paint ... Its happened to me...Be safe everyone
I believe the blame was the yellow line, the ink used in these bands does not provide good grip. When I go to ride I void these bands and any other horizontal signs.
I believe the blame was the yellow line, the ink used in these bands does not provide good grip. When I go to ride I void these bands and any other horizontal signs
im a beginner rider...had a quick question. a second before he falls, he brings his knee in, does that have anything to do with it? or was it just a matter of grip and thats all. thanks!
@DemonPhyre You're right. Neither wheel hit the line. If he'd moved his lazy arse off the seat and kept the bike more upright then he'd be ok. Lots of 'experts' on here can't see the obvious.
"keep coming with your excuses as to how bad your buddy is as a rider" your talking to me although I know the people in the video, I think your a tad confused. I've no idea where this place is, also I drive on the other side of the road. Man up? lol, some people on here are crazy.
It looks to me like you were just starting to put the tire on the line before the rear gave out. Bad juju. Painted lines have ZERO grip in wet. And still bad grip dry. Very expensive lesson to learn, but glad it wasn't worse.
@TBagger489 how stupid are you? your video. okay? your video, does not even show him touching the yellow lines. YOU'RE AN IDIOT. he went down several inches before the yellow lines. i love newbies on bikes that think they're ready for the tail. take your ass back to the parking lot.
His front tyre touches the line and that is EXACTLY the moment he loses grip, sure his rear is a couple of inches away from the line but surely even up there on your high horse you can tell that if your heading towards the apex of the corner the front of the bike will be closer to the inside than the rear and you call me an idiot? I love youtube gansters, take you ass' back to rehab yo!
@TBagger489 keep coming with your excuses as to how bad your buddy is as a rider. and if you stick with him and behind him, that means he's better then you. sad. you two are not ready for dragons tail. not being a gangster here. just stating riding facts. maybe you should stick to four wheelers. and, i wouldn't try and put my knee down if i were you. get the experience first, then the feel of your bike.
He lost it braking on the double yellow. The yellow paint is slick as ice all the time. Doesn't matter how warm your tires are. I broke traction on those just accelerating one time. I didn't crash but it was a real sphincter pinching moment. Moral of the story: Don't brake or accelerate on the yellow lines.
i dont ride bikes so correct me if im wrong, it looks like the reason he fell is coz he pulled his leg (knee) in... it looks like thats what caused him to go off balance and tip the bike over.
@kornkluivert Actually when you ride, the idea is to look through your turn. Which this rider was doing fine until that second, if you watch just before he pulls that knee in(which is when he spooked himself and backed off his throttle) he went from looking through the turn to looking down, or right in front of his bike. The mantra is "look where you want to go, if you look down you'll go down". The wetness of the road didn't have much to do with this crash, he just got a bit spooked.
@dbc1dc i couldn't have said it any better. looked like the front lost traction after going through the median line and down he went. careful with the painted areas of the road guys. wet or dry they can hurt your traction.
@wideangle852 you fucking ignorant piece of worthless dog shit! the biker made a mistake, but it can happen to everybody. the speed was definitly NOT too high, so stop bithcing around you son of a crackwhore. this happens. biker had 100% good gear, he wasnt speeding, but made a mistake, so what?
go and set yourself on fire, and if you have children, dont forget to take em with you, they may end up like you, fucking bastard.
@DuellMeNoob i deleted the comment left by wideangle before i read your response. bravo. i wish i hadn't. i wish i was as perfect as wideangle thought he was.
@DuellMeNoob . . inventive replies but I am really glad I got under your skin you NOB . . biker was too fast as always and you know it . . trying to defend such action is really stupid . . but then again thats probably you as well . . . . a stupid little small minded biker without a care for anyone and as such not even worth swearing at . .
He was absolutely not to fast, you obviously never had an accident like this. The thing he did wrong, was to pull back his knee, allowing the bike to bend down even furter which minimized the grip on the smaller front wheel and lead to the low sider. There is only one thing to prevent such crashes: bring your padded knee out.
@DuellMeNoob . . you really have learnt some words today haven't you? Well congratulations the special schoool is really doing its job . . perhaps next you could try joined up writing or even without swearing! That woud be a first I bet, a gold star day for you!
happened to me the other day on a wet roundabout... moreover i later found a leak from my oil filter... which is directly in front of the rear wheel....
lol, wet roads, lines, cars etc.. its never the rider's fault... I'm a biker, and i know if i fall it is my fault.. He wasn't a good biker, you see it directly in his way of riding.. A good rider knows before the corner exactly when and where his wheels will be.. So if he touched the wet line on purpose he's a noob, if i didn't touched the line on purpose, he's still a noob.. the look in cornering is the first rule... You brake, u look the middle of the corner, u get there, u look the exit.
hey erm i ned a little help with deciding what bike i should get, i have a choice between a Yahaha ybr 125 and a keeway superlight, limited edition 125. im only 17 so i cant get bigger and i am stuck on which to get. id like a bike that stands out from my age group as any teenager my age with a 125 will either get a crosser or a ybr or a cbf. the keeway is a tourer and its really nice on the eye as the ybr is a skinny bike. can someone with a little more knowledge help me :)
@adjlhh I'd go for the CBF. It's slightly better on fuel than the Yamaha and, in my opinion, is more easily seen by other road users than the YBR (I think it's slightly higher?). Also, I prefer the riding position of the CBF. On the other hand, the YBR has a slightly higher "cruising speed" (from my experiences). But in the end it's all down to you. Take a seat on both, take it out for a test ride if possible, then see which one you think you will prefer.
@jonathondeane yeah :) im really stuck tbh im also considering a honda cbr 125r 2009 model but the insurance is £912 a year so im just weighing it up atm, whats your view on the cbr?
@odortiz im new to this responding to comments thing, but i can see where you thought i was talking about you running him off the road. I ride bikes too, and ment if his accident caused me to crash also i still would have monkey stopped him haha. But it was a good thing you were behind him, but i bet you probably knew something like this was going to happened haha. So tell me....did he get in the car with you to go home hahaha.
@nightranger509 we met at the start and i asked if i could tape him. we took off up the hill and the closer to TN we got, the wetter the road got. i started thinking "i hope i'm not making a snuff film" seconds later he eats it. i helped him clean up and he rode his bike home, over 5 hrs away. did not envy him that day.
@ordortiz my bad, but you should have had a little more info. I take it yall were together. My satement says your the better driver, but i never said the car driver did anything wrong?
Dude you fell because you suck not because of anythinig else! Learn how to ride before you try something like that.
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ImDamagedBadAtBest 2 days ago
amateur
banjea1 2 weeks ago
MotoGP weaving to warm up your tyres - Check
Knee out hanging off despite the fact that you're doing 35 mph - Check
Absolute inability to take even the easiest of corners - Check
Seriously, dude. Take up golf or something.
Nosteratees 3 weeks ago
Could happen to anyone. Maybe he should have leaned his body of more. Bad tires maybe, or too aggressive on the gas.
TotalNekro 4 weeks ago
why wasn't he using the entire side of the road to his advantage?!?! Leaning way too much when it isn't necessary & not keep yellow to white & white to yellow rhythm to make turns
AMDGuy64 1 month ago
Didn't lose grip at all. It was rider error.
AllyWheels 1 month ago
@ Tzsims1: I thought Beginners end was the parking area right before Tabcat Bridge?
fatherdeth13 1 month ago
did you kick down a gear just before flying of ? if so maybe that's, done too aggresively, what added to the grip slipping
imachynn 2 months ago
Is the rider OK? I know it's a bit after the fact but I've been down, too. Hope he's well, up, & riding. God bless!
YbYBwRbY 2 months ago
Looks like his peg or something dug and spun him. None the less, I hope the rider was alright. For those of you people bashing the motorcycle riders, you need to relax. The dragon was practically designed for motorcycles! :)
Buzzyinmich 2 months ago
Sorry you spilled ..... That's always a shit thing. I saw you zigzagging warming up the rubber sometimes hitting the paint lol...... And what was your knee doing? Bro you weren't even going hard at all. The tires cooled off because of that lol shady sun patched road?
Who knew ? Cool vid though :) lol
rentstakethename 2 months ago
that corner is called beginers end.the speed limit is 30mph and it is very clear none of you commenting have ever been their.i live in maryville and ride 10000 miles a year on the us 129.if you want to see how to ride the road go to US129 PHOTOS.com and watch jareds video.
tzsims1 3 months ago
Looks like when his knee got down it scared him a bit
blcook95 3 months ago
BAHAHAHAHA!!! THAT WAS PATHETIC!!!
jonathankent97 3 months ago
Hwy 129 isn't your normal curvy road, turns are very tight and banked differently , best to ride it slow first time to learn the road then progress up gradually if you aren't very experienced rider. Natahalla Skyway has turn 10 I think it is banked wrong , away from the curve, you get to going too fast and forget where you then wham! Into the guard rail you will go! Saw that on back side of Mt Evans in Colorado, new sportbike, got into series of curves that were fast then hit tight turn!
LkOutMtnMan 3 months ago
valentine radar ftw.
braddddddd991 5 months ago
assuming he knew the road was wet, why didn't he warm his tires a little more? a little trip down the road a couple miles and back would have helped a great deal! GLWS! :)
loki1000r 5 months ago
rookie. he didint even know how to slide knee
MrJdmcoupe 5 months ago
Given the short distance at which you were following him most of the time, could he have felt a bit pressured to push on?
smoothlennie 5 months ago
After watching several times, it does not look like his tire ever made it to the yellow line. His leg bobbles just before he goes down. It almost looks like maybe he his boot (boot between road and peg) and freaked him into just dumping it down (just takes one small nudge of the handlebar at that lean angle).(or the foot bump could have unweighted the wheel just enough to slide it).
mountainakita 5 months ago
shit rider
petemossinc 5 months ago
Point taken
teasemeagain 5 months ago
Poor riding skill, he entered the curve completely wrong.
To ride proficiently, you use a delayed apex when taking curves, which allows you to take the curve safer and actually faster.
GregSolomon 5 months ago
No 1 - He wasnt racing #2 road bike with medium to hard compound , not good on a slick wet road , not good when any-one goes down , here , there and everywhere.
teasemeagain 5 months ago
@teasemeagain A motorcycle still retains the vast majority of its traction on wet pavement. This motorcycle went down because of poor riding skill. The rider wasn't using a delayed apex to negotiate the curve...he entered the curve incorrectly. Thus, through lack of skill, he ended up not having enough lane to negotiate the curve and had to end up on the double yellow line. If he had entered the curve properly, he wouldn't have had to go near that double yellow line. Lack of skill.
GregSolomon 5 months ago
the wantabe road racers make it dangerous for the people that just want to ride the road
tugboatwille 6 months ago
@tugboatwille youre a moron. you do realize that the majority of incidents reported are due to HARLEY riders wrecking. your typical SS rider is much more safe than 99.99% of any driver on the road. Wearing full gear, staying in your lane, and not riding PAST your limit is what is SAFE. You dont have to go slow to be safe. moron. go back to your bubble wrap life.
4ThatGuy4 5 months ago
@4ThatGuy4 I said watabe road racers I didn't specify what motorcycle! there guys on just about every type of bike that wreck trying to do something there not capable of.I ride a Yamaha and have since the early 60's.when I did the go fast thing I did it on a track where it belongs! from your responce you are the problem ,the one that thinks laws are for the bubble wrap people,the one weaving in and out of traffic,pulling wheelies at 80 in a 55 zone.the reason we have laws about seizeing bikes!!
tugboatwille 5 months ago
@tugboatwille apparently you did not actually read my post. i never said anything about reckless driving (wheelies, weaving,etc), and i never said laws are for bubble wrap people. Many laws are in place for a good reason. However, some laws are unnecessary and blatantly overbearing. Like a mother who wont let their children play outside because there is nature outside!!! Look at the autobahn. 100+ speeds and then look at the incident stats. Hmm. interesting huh.
4ThatGuy4 5 months ago
I think it was a just hitting the center line that made him lose it. That painted surface is slick! Love the dragon.
bylenga14 6 months ago
@hotwheels56 Perfectly named ain't it.
sentry964 6 months ago
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It's an old scenic US Highway, not the Nurburgring. Go to the track you wannabe F-1, Super Moto Champions!!!!!!!!!! The best thing that could happen is to shut it down to any bike other than SAE and Metric Cruisers. Oh yeah, and anyone with a camera car filming them, or a helmet cam.
ballparkweiner1 6 months ago
@ballparkweiner1 where's your sense of adventure? when the nurburgring is opened to the public, it becomes a PUBLIC ROAD. the difference is, Germans know the consequences of getting it wrong, and pay the price if they do, where Americans always want to blame somebody else for being incompetent, and pay a lawyer to pass the buck. how about a little responsibility for our own actions? we know the risks and don't need another "mommy or daddy" to think for us.
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@odortiz I like fun as much as the next guy, but when riders start layin it down because of showing off, Big Brother steps in and kills it for rest. Far as I know no deaths have occured at Deal's Gap, but it could happen. Might be a mom yellin at kid in a SUV that gets in your lane (Been there, done that). Might be a couple kids in a Yota thinking they're the next Kenny Block. Remember it's not YOU that you gotta worry about. 20 MPH speed limit & speed cameras screw us all. Respect the Dragon.
sentry964 6 months ago
@sentry964 i agree with you. but the real problem is our society and big brother. i wish they would just post a sign up that said "you are on your own" and let nature take its course.
odortiz 6 months ago 5
@odortiz Impossible; Taxpayers and all.. Appearantly some of us need "mommy and daddy" to think for them. :(
MCXpress 1 month ago
@sentry964
There have been 11 deaths on the Dragon.
Road2008King 6 months ago
@sentry964 People die every year at deal's gap. It was 6 or 7 last season I do believe. All because of dumb stuff. I love the dragon, but you can't just go up there thinking you're just going to ride it. This 11 miles of road is not for the novice. Unfortunately, this guy just picked a bad day to ride it.
ziggy149 9 hours ago
@ballparkweiner1 um F1 is car racing.......
tervanun24 4 months ago
@ballparkweiner1 you are a jackass! The guy is not even going fast! I have seen more cruisers crash then anything there. half of them cant even ride out of the parking lot with out tipping over! why would you even want to ride a bike that turns like ass on the gap?
go drink beer and rev the piss out of your gay ass cruiser somewere else!!
redsuncivic 2 months ago
@redsuncivic Thank you for your reply and insightful comments. But, I don't drink, and I have never revved the urine out of any of my H-D's. As far as I know, only living creatures, not Motorcycles, can be Hetero or Homo,...but you seem like an authority on these finer points.
ballparkweiner1 2 months ago
He hit the yellow line, that stuff is slick! ... Speaking from experience on a freshly painted cross-walk and hanging a mean left.
CarrollGazette 6 months ago
that was very unfortunate for the bike! the car's engine sounds great!!!
antonyog 6 months ago
throttle control is your friend. You get more clearance when you actually roll on the throttle on corners.
DigitalminiDV 6 months ago
Could have been much worse: a car might have decapitated him as he cornered with his whole torso in the oncoming lane. You need to be aware of where your body is, not just your tires.
enwent 6 months ago
@deepdickn247 nah. i'll just use a few things other "drivers" never use. judgement, skills, and vision. when i need advice on what to do in prison, i'll ask you.
odortiz 7 months ago
@odortiz Just another ignorant organ donor. Keep doing what you think is right and you'll end up like my friend who has one leg and lives in a hospital bed.
Stylensky 6 months ago
@deepdickn247 thanks for the suggestion on how to drive. very useful. i'll be sure to ignore it next time i'm driving.
odortiz 7 months ago
I will be riding it in a month on a big HD touring bike, Still kind of new so I will be taking it nice and easy....enjoying the scenery. My sport bike days are over. :)
frankward67 7 months ago
"the yellow slippery line" had nothing do with this guys poor skill
user1104 7 months ago
That corner is called begineers end. It is the first turn after the state line. Countless vehicles have crashed there.
hotwheels56 7 months ago
definately touched a peg.been there.
hellbillyjay 7 months ago
saw that coming from the start. bike was all out of shape the minute he got on it. setup way off. his legs hanging off both sides all the time LMAO there goes any kind of balance. this is clearly the prime video of how not to ride a bike. this should be shown in all motorcycle safety coarses.
gonzosc1 7 months ago
I see this stuff happen there every time i go. Dragon didnt bite you, lack of technique and knowledge on how to ride did... it is clear the second he starts zig zagging. what does that do for you exactly? because im sure its not what you think.
SUMOtarded 7 months ago
yellow lines suck. gotta watch em
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he lost it.. its like glass !
misiek229 8 months ago
damn that sucks man, glad it wasnt too serious. i plan on taking the dragon with my friends one day soon. gotta remember to be careful
DeadbyY3ti 8 months ago
Looked like his back tire caught the rain-slick yellow line and then he lost it.
blackt0wer 8 months ago 2
mmmm bimmer.
dkracr387 8 months ago
Well the car being able to keep up with you tell the whole story. But looks like you hit a slop in the road with your peg... could have happen to anyone.. keep riding!!! but be safe :)
jjay2013 8 months ago
Puppalucci is right. His front end washed out on the painted line causing him to lowside it. In the damp / wet .. stay off the paint, kiddies ! its like glass !
Jenxxie 8 months ago
least it was a lowside not a highside crash. id take a highside any day
ODSTScoppyElite 8 months ago
Dude get ur ass and upperbody over the side of the bike! "let me just stick my knee out and hope it works out"..good job!
debo2j 8 months ago 3
Need to work on body position bro. Ur outside leg isn't holding the tank like it should and u need to open ur hips to the turn. Sorry u wiped out man. B safe out there bro.
rnice191 8 months ago
Grip was not the problem here.
He just laid it down
two45triox 8 months ago
i love going out after it rains but i dont get very high speed i like to powerslide
crazzywolf37 8 months ago
He removed his left leg from the ground, after that the bottom hit the ground and slipt away
lavidaspeligrosa 8 months ago
kinda obvious..soon as he hit the wet yellow line he washed out..
puppalucci 9 months ago
Poor cornering positioning of the body.. thats all. (no tyre glaze no wet road no loss of grip) didnt lean his own weight of to one side. all he did was poke a knee out and leaned the b ike itself over (INSTEAD OF HIMSELF) AND THE PEG HIT THE ROAD CAUSING A LEAVER EFFECT LIFTING HIS BACK WHEEL OFF THE GROUND.
walllballl 9 months ago
awesome video! were u ok?
IHATEVANS 9 months ago
what bike is that?
Selfjell 9 months ago
Ironically, that curve is named Beginners' End. Low speed lowside to the ditch is the best crash you can hope for at Deals Gap. If you must crash there, that's the best way to do it.
And a little word of wisdom for you crotch rocketeers, wagging the bike at the beginning of a run just tells experienced riders you have no clue what you're doing.
Glad he was ok.
CreekDevil 9 months ago
the reason he crashed was because he hit the dampened yellow lines with the tire... those lines when they are damp are pretty slick compared to the roads surface... we use those to burn out sometimes even when its not wet cause they have less traction...
spaceman8988 9 months ago
i couldn't tell but did u tap the front brake in ur lean?
jahlov420 9 months ago
i drive an e36 M3.. i recognized that sexy hood and noise instantly and am lucky to listen it on a daily basis:) sweet car.
MetalicB0x 9 months ago
@MetalicB0x i have one for sale
skylinedrake 9 months ago
I can hear the radar detector boot up at 0:05. My dad has the same one!
UBCSWraith 9 months ago
thanks to helmet !!!
elish009 9 months ago
He touched the paint line in the wet, what did he expect to happen?
MDCVFIF 9 months ago
He has taken the apex to early, come in to aggressive on the center line - at the angle he is at it's very easy to drop your bike on paint. You can see he hit his pegs after he slips on the lines, poor bugger would be devoed
lredgrave87 9 months ago
it looks almost like he hit the peg and got scared of putting his knee down so he pulled it back in
epiphonehtm 9 months ago
Crash at 1:02
perfectshow 10 months ago
hahaha
Djnova11 10 months ago
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Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Doesn't take much to lose traction on the paint though. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
4rippedwings 10 months ago
Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Doesn't take much to lose traction on the paint though. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
4rippedwings 10 months ago
Doesn't look like the roads are too wet. Looks to me like the rider hit the center line and lost traction on the front wheel. This goes for everybody! Learn how to lean before you go sticking your knee out there. It does nothing for you except make you look goofy when you don't do it right.
4rippedwings 10 months ago
the tire cant handle the weight of this fat guy leaning far to outside .
CarstenOepping 10 months ago
what i think happened is the road was wet and he hit the yellow line and lost traction
TheExtremeGreenBeans 10 months ago
Been there but did not crash.... parts of the Dragon are damp all day long (at least when I was there for 3 days). SInce there are so many tall trees covering the tail and the mountain draws drew/rain.. it is hard to tell until.. to late. Of course, I dont knee drag, and I also ryde with a passenger 98% of the time there. Nice place though !
nuffflavor 10 months ago
What a squid. Where did he learn to take corners? Hopefully he was OK but maybe he should take a riding course before trying to take on the dragon.
PsychoDaveFilms 10 months ago
He leaned too far and his foot peg hit the road. Doesn't look like a loss of tire traction.
timrocket2008 10 months ago
Rain or shine the road paint can be slippery and you can see his front tire slipped on the center line
CFSouldier 10 months ago
he think cuz he sticks his knoee out he is a pro...you need to learn how to ride and corner the proper way...try California superbike school for corners..or stay off the road you putz!!!!
1outerspace1 11 months ago
This may sound like some crazy questions odoritz, but how was the wind blowing on that day that he went down and do u think that affected his handling of the motorcycle?
renegadebiker24 11 months ago
@renegadebiker24 wind doesn't really have much of an effect on motorcycle handling, so probably not.
darthnerdo4291 10 months ago
@darthnerdo4291 o ok, I was just curious on asking that question.
renegadebiker24 10 months ago
It looks like he had too much lean angle for his speed
bebo3ful 11 months ago
Front wheel lost traction on the slippery YELLOW divider line. Happened to a lot of people.
roynexus6 11 months ago
Those yellow lines are so dangerous when wet............I almost crash in a straight line on a stupid yellow line./...
Deathunder 11 months ago
grip had nothing to do with it. you can clearly see his peg or foot touched before the wipe out.
gonzosc1 11 months ago
When will people learn that you must get your upper body off to the inside of a corner and dropped down so that your head is at the level of your handlebar. Just sticking your knee out is not proper riding position for a corner. Taking a corner with the correct body position will reduce the amount of lean angle your bike needs to carry and thus, reduce the chances of exceeding the limits of traction. It's not just for the track.
zenrr1 11 months ago 29
@zenrr1 I gotta agree with you...I'm more of a cornering guy than an "All Out Speed" guy and in faster corners I always get down and "bar level" so to speak along with a touch of counter-steer. But you let "the secret" out of the bag. I've always been more than able to run with faster bikes on my porky 12 yr old CBR1100 because of this technique over the bolt upright and stick out a knee style! LOL!
SR71BBFLYER 10 months ago
@zenrr1 so true most bikers will look at this and think ok hes exagerating the movements hes gonna be off very quickly lol. but what you are saying is the reason i believe that ppl should learn on cbr 600's specifically the f3 (95-98) i do corners at 80mph with about a half a cm off the tire wall and no were neer a knee down.
jackojeff 9 months ago
it looked like he had plenty of traction, he just leaned too much and crossed over the line and either freaked out or touched with the foot peg. or maybe the front tire slipped on the painted line like most comments here suggest
lnromandude 11 months ago
looks more like the wet on the yellow line did him in...paint not good when wet.
oldguybutalive 11 months ago
thats what you call dragging a knee!
dalehockin 11 months ago
What a plonker!
SicilianPizza 11 months ago
he needs to learn to ride, dont stick your god damn leg out like that, feel the god damn corner ride to your limits dude.
blitzfultime 11 months ago
stay off the paint. he had all the grip in the world if he took the right line
Sorionc 11 months ago
washed out on the paint
3ald3eaver 11 months ago
thats what happens when your bike isn't up to date.
markistc 11 months ago
Either he hit the rear brake or just wasnt accelerating fast enough out of the turn. Either way it was a lowside and hes lucky. Pick it back up and keep riding man, things happen.
rmj2n 11 months ago
he hit the paint line
bjmc202 11 months ago
@bjmc202 yeah thats waht it looked like to me as well. Hit the paint witht he front tire and it went out from under him. That shit can get slippery as hell once it get some water on it.
Shabbernigdo 11 months ago
Ya know, i think that my be the 4th wreck I've seen at that very turn.
tobykillz 11 months ago
I am glad that nobody got hurt and that he was wearing the right gear.
Ride safe
Rockynight 11 months ago
Gonna have to say it was the paint that did it... If you watch close you will see the skid mark start on the paint ... Its happened to me...Be safe everyone
kcox626 11 months ago
There are two types of motorcyclists: those who fell and those who will fall. It can happen to anyone. Beware with the dragon!
mord4z 11 months ago
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I believe the blame was the yellow line, the ink used in these bands does not provide good grip. When I go to ride I void these bands and any other horizontal signs.
ntmumuarama 11 months ago
I believe the blame was the yellow line, the ink used in these bands does not provide good grip. When I go to ride I void these bands and any other horizontal signs
ntmumuarama 11 months ago
That's why They named that curve BEGINNERS END. Good thing the speed limit is 65 mph at Deals Gap.
operationnorthwoodz 11 months ago
im a beginner rider...had a quick question. a second before he falls, he brings his knee in, does that have anything to do with it? or was it just a matter of grip and thats all. thanks!
lnova07 11 months ago
@lnova07 It looks like he touched a peg and levered the tire off because of it.
DemonPhyre 11 months ago 23
@DemonPhyre You're right. Neither wheel hit the line. If he'd moved his lazy arse off the seat and kept the bike more upright then he'd be ok. Lots of 'experts' on here can't see the obvious.
eddiebruv 11 months ago
@DemonPhyre ..... you said it ... his tire didn't slip , his peg hit the ground !
TattooBull 10 months ago
@DemonPhyre thats what i was thinkin....
themoj0 8 months ago
And the car is BMW <3
streetracerm5 11 months ago
"keep coming with your excuses as to how bad your buddy is as a rider" your talking to me although I know the people in the video, I think your a tad confused. I've no idea where this place is, also I drive on the other side of the road. Man up? lol, some people on here are crazy.
TBagger489 11 months ago
It looks to me like you were just starting to put the tire on the line before the rear gave out. Bad juju. Painted lines have ZERO grip in wet. And still bad grip dry. Very expensive lesson to learn, but glad it wasn't worse.
DasMidnightDrifter 11 months ago
Obviously not going that fast as the car was making no effort to stay with him, needs to address his riding style and skill set.
bigkiwial 11 months ago
THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T PUT YOUR KNEE DOWN AND TOUCH THE LINE! >.<
sinr1one 1 year ago
I agree that wasn't about excessive speed or even the road being wet. That was a case of getting spooked while already distracted by the looks of it.
cefox1232 1 year ago
the road looks wet. did u guys go out after a rain had passed?
vilentone 1 year ago 4
@vilentone it had rained at the top of the mountains. started dry.
odortiz 1 year ago
@vilentone Even still, he only fell off because he hit the yellow line, what more grip do you expect from paint?
TBagger489 11 months ago
@TBagger489 how stupid are you? your video. okay? your video, does not even show him touching the yellow lines. YOU'RE AN IDIOT. he went down several inches before the yellow lines. i love newbies on bikes that think they're ready for the tail. take your ass back to the parking lot.
vilentone 11 months ago
@vilentone
His front tyre touches the line and that is EXACTLY the moment he loses grip, sure his rear is a couple of inches away from the line but surely even up there on your high horse you can tell that if your heading towards the apex of the corner the front of the bike will be closer to the inside than the rear and you call me an idiot? I love youtube gansters, take you ass' back to rehab yo!
TBagger489 11 months ago
@TBagger489 keep coming with your excuses as to how bad your buddy is as a rider. and if you stick with him and behind him, that means he's better then you. sad. you two are not ready for dragons tail. not being a gangster here. just stating riding facts. maybe you should stick to four wheelers. and, i wouldn't try and put my knee down if i were you. get the experience first, then the feel of your bike.
vilentone 11 months ago
@vilentone My buddy? Who do you think I am?
TBagger489 11 months ago
@TBagger489 even worse if this video is of you. lol. fig you were the guy behind the idiot that whiped out going 5 mph on the tail. lol. man up .
vilentone 11 months ago
If you look carefully, you can see that he brakes, and then he falls..........
AlferRot 11 months ago
@vilentone No they water the road in that part of country... lol.
Snipza 7 months ago
He lost it braking on the double yellow. The yellow paint is slick as ice all the time. Doesn't matter how warm your tires are. I broke traction on those just accelerating one time. I didn't crash but it was a real sphincter pinching moment. Moral of the story: Don't brake or accelerate on the yellow lines.
TheMotorick 1 year ago
Jeez, learn to read the road surface, its wet, take it easy!
ChanticleerHegemony 1 year ago
i dont ride bikes so correct me if im wrong, it looks like the reason he fell is coz he pulled his leg (knee) in... it looks like thats what caused him to go off balance and tip the bike over.
kornkluivert 1 year ago
@kornkluivert Actually when you ride, the idea is to look through your turn. Which this rider was doing fine until that second, if you watch just before he pulls that knee in(which is when he spooked himself and backed off his throttle) he went from looking through the turn to looking down, or right in front of his bike. The mantra is "look where you want to go, if you look down you'll go down". The wetness of the road didn't have much to do with this crash, he just got a bit spooked.
dbc1dc 1 year ago
@dbc1dc i couldn't have said it any better. looked like the front lost traction after going through the median line and down he went. careful with the painted areas of the road guys. wet or dry they can hurt your traction.
Coolybanana 1 year ago
@wideangle852 you fucking ignorant piece of worthless dog shit! the biker made a mistake, but it can happen to everybody. the speed was definitly NOT too high, so stop bithcing around you son of a crackwhore. this happens. biker had 100% good gear, he wasnt speeding, but made a mistake, so what?
go and set yourself on fire, and if you have children, dont forget to take em with you, they may end up like you, fucking bastard.
DuellMeNoob 1 year ago
@DuellMeNoob i deleted the comment left by wideangle before i read your response. bravo. i wish i hadn't. i wish i was as perfect as wideangle thought he was.
odortiz 1 year ago
@odortiz i dont like to insult that way, but some people need either serious mental help, or a gun to commit suicide.
in my eyes, wideangel is just a piece of shit, and you should delete comments from those kind of "humans".
DuellMeNoob 1 year ago
@DuellMeNoob . . inventive replies but I am really glad I got under your skin you NOB . . biker was too fast as always and you know it . . trying to defend such action is really stupid . . but then again thats probably you as well . . . . a stupid little small minded biker without a care for anyone and as such not even worth swearing at . .
wideangle852 1 year ago
@wideangle852
He was absolutely not to fast, you obviously never had an accident like this. The thing he did wrong, was to pull back his knee, allowing the bike to bend down even furter which minimized the grip on the smaller front wheel and lead to the low sider. There is only one thing to prevent such crashes: bring your padded knee out.
ExtremeDeathman 1 year ago
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@DuellMeNoob . . you really have learnt some words today haven't you? Well congratulations the special schoool is really doing its job . . perhaps next you could try joined up writing or even without swearing! That woud be a first I bet, a gold star day for you!
wideangle852 1 year ago
Always remember, kids. Slow in, fast out. Do this and you won't make a tit of yourself like this.
Nosteratees 1 year ago
happened to me the other day on a wet roundabout... moreover i later found a leak from my oil filter... which is directly in front of the rear wheel....
my poor suzi sv :(
xiuliano 1 year ago
KNEES OUT MUCH ?
mattkitch86 1 year ago
lol, wet roads, lines, cars etc.. its never the rider's fault... I'm a biker, and i know if i fall it is my fault.. He wasn't a good biker, you see it directly in his way of riding.. A good rider knows before the corner exactly when and where his wheels will be.. So if he touched the wet line on purpose he's a noob, if i didn't touched the line on purpose, he's still a noob.. the look in cornering is the first rule... You brake, u look the middle of the corner, u get there, u look the exit.
tomatenzopp 1 year ago
hahahhhahhha shame u dumb guy whoeva it was
samz986Productionz 1 year ago
loool
samz986Productionz 1 year ago
hey erm i ned a little help with deciding what bike i should get, i have a choice between a Yahaha ybr 125 and a keeway superlight, limited edition 125. im only 17 so i cant get bigger and i am stuck on which to get. id like a bike that stands out from my age group as any teenager my age with a 125 will either get a crosser or a ybr or a cbf. the keeway is a tourer and its really nice on the eye as the ybr is a skinny bike. can someone with a little more knowledge help me :)
adjlhh 1 year ago
@adjlhh I'd go for the CBF. It's slightly better on fuel than the Yamaha and, in my opinion, is more easily seen by other road users than the YBR (I think it's slightly higher?). Also, I prefer the riding position of the CBF. On the other hand, the YBR has a slightly higher "cruising speed" (from my experiences). But in the end it's all down to you. Take a seat on both, take it out for a test ride if possible, then see which one you think you will prefer.
jonathondeane 1 year ago
@jonathondeane yeah :) im really stuck tbh im also considering a honda cbr 125r 2009 model but the insurance is £912 a year so im just weighing it up atm, whats your view on the cbr?
adjlhh 1 year ago
@adjlhh
£912??? How many driving bans have you had?
abbas224 11 months ago
（；゜０゜）
196618563sato 1 year ago
tailgate much?
Damico07 1 year ago
@odortiz im new to this responding to comments thing, but i can see where you thought i was talking about you running him off the road. I ride bikes too, and ment if his accident caused me to crash also i still would have monkey stopped him haha. But it was a good thing you were behind him, but i bet you probably knew something like this was going to happened haha. So tell me....did he get in the car with you to go home hahaha.
nightranger509 1 year ago
@nightranger509 we met at the start and i asked if i could tape him. we took off up the hill and the closer to TN we got, the wetter the road got. i started thinking "i hope i'm not making a snuff film" seconds later he eats it. i helped him clean up and he rode his bike home, over 5 hrs away. did not envy him that day.
odortiz 1 year ago
@ordortiz my bad, but you should have had a little more info. I take it yall were together. My satement says your the better driver, but i never said the car driver did anything wrong?
nightranger509 1 year ago
it happens to the best of us. nice riding! and a cool vid!
Car kept up with the bike in all the zig-zag .. what kind of car did the filming?
kissra69 1 year ago