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  • Thanks for the info brothe, one little dilemma though.. I got a 02 Civic LX.. I have no idea what it was done b4 i got it. Now, I did all tune up.. All gears work. After like 4 mns of the car being on, it slips. None of the gears work. Again, the car cools off n transmission works for anothe 4 mns then slips again. Oil changed with factory AT Fluid has been made. You have any pointers b4 i go waste another $800 in another transmission ??

  • @changolion69

    Uugh, I've heard of this before.....I'm guessing you have high mileage and the previous owner didn't do maintenance. First, I'd triple check that your fluid is at the proper level when the transmission is HOT. If you're sure of that, you might have to try a bottle of ATF "additive" to try and help the seals do their job.

  • did you drain the old oil, put new drive around drain it, put new again?

  • @KoNg2kGTP

    Yes, but you really only need to do that if you drove 40k or 50k miles without every changing the ATF.  If you've been changing it every 15k to 20k, you just need to do a simple drain/fill.

  • @ManClubAustin hey i was just wondering did you use the whole three quarts of atf?

  • @supamanhigh8500

    The answer is: The dipstick never lies. It really depends on how much fluid was in the system when you started. I've seen it be between 2.75 quarts and 3.2 or so.  I'd suggest draining, filling up with 2.75 quarts and do a quick drive around the block...then check and fill as necessary.

  • Old fluid seems to be fully red which means it's not necessary to change it. Old and burned atf gets dark brown kinda and it stinks bad. changed automatic transmission fluid on my c70 -2000 166 000km driven with original oils. it lasts long.

  • @bujashaka

    You do as you must, but there's no way in hell I'd run my ATF fluid 100K miles without changing it. Heat and time break it down, and Hondas seems to be sensitive when it comes to ATF fluid.

  • That works. You should let the viewers know that so they don't consider buggering up a good torque wrench. If I had an unserviceable torque wrench, I'd probably throw it away or if I kept it, I think I'd spray paint it red so there was no doubt it was not for actual use. But that's the crew chief in me.

  • You should not use a torque wrench as a breaker bar to bust loose a tight fastener. That's a sure-fire way to ruin the calibration of the torque wrench. Use a breaker bar for breaking fasteners loose. Use a torque wrench ONLY for precision tightening.

  • @VermontDRZ400

    You're absolutely correct. The one I use as a breaker bar is broken. I do not use it for torque specs.

  • good video and comments

  • LOL..."its got some metal shit on it".

  • @brojam83

    That's a technical term for the very fine metal shavings that gather on the drain plug's magnet :)

  • you can`t get it out of converter by just draining it.

  • Nice video! I learned than jacking the back up a bit higher will get out more fluid. There is also a fair amount of fluid in the bottom of the radiator, which could/should be removed. I am adding an extra trans cooler, HOT here in AZ, and want to make sure I am tapping into the REURN line. Is that on the driver's or passenger side of radiator? Or, from the radiator, there are two lines, one goes back to middle of trans, the other to the back of trans. Which one is the return line? Thanks, MAN

  • @My1968Impala

    Hot here in Texas, too. I think the OEM ATF cooler should be adequate, unless you're towing a lot of weight. I looked in the manual, and they really don't say which line is return. I even looked at the filter, and they don't indicate flow direction. But if I had to guess, I'd think the supply has the filter on it, and the return (the line that runs to the back of the trans) is the return. An easy way to tell is to warm up the engine, then disconnect the line and bump it.

  • a full flush, pan drop and filter replace runs $200-300, you can do it yourself for @ $60-80. its not hard and it doesn't take long, helps big time if you have a second person to turn car on and off while you are draining fluid from torque converter while filling pan with new fluid, that way once you see red you tell them to shut car off. fluid will come out fast, will be @ 6-10 seconds until you see new fluid, that why having a second person helps.

  • just did removal of cooler hose method worked fine, saved me $ and time. remove cooler hose, blow air through (to get fluid out of cooler back to pan), drain pan (drop and replace filter if you want), reinstall pan, fill with new fluid (amount you drained), put 3 ft of 9/16 tube on cooler line, have end going to disposal container, have another person turn car on, while draining make sure to be adding new fluid, when you see red fluid come, shut car off, make sure same amount in is same out.

  • Rather than drive and drain 3x, why not unhook the trans cooling line and let the transmission pump out the old fluid?

  • @Smithsoniana

    Because you can severely damage your transmission if you run it dry. They're expensive, and the time savings is not worth the risk of costly repair or replacement. The procedure I followed was a documented Honda procedure.

  • @ManClubAustin I get that, however, it seems to me that the drain and drive method invariably will mix old and fresh fluid together and you don't end up with a transmission full of clean juice. But maybe it doesn't matter that much, as lots of folks just drain and fill leaving you half new fluid and half old.

  • hey im about to buy a 2001 eclipse gs, the car has 102k miles, everything is fine except that the transmission oil is a little brownish, the owner bought it at an action and doesnt know if it ever had a tranni oil change, if i buy it should i flush the transmission oil like some say, or leave it since it only has 102k miles, please let me know as soon as possible thank you

  • since my manual 2003 element doesnt have a torque converter. SHOULD i just do the fluid change one time or should i repeat 3times every hundred or so miles to clean it out b/c its gone 130k miles WITHOUT transmission fluid drain/fill. please let me know

  • @DtoWnSux1

    The 3x "flush" is only for Auto Transmission, since it holds about 9 quarts of fluid. Your manual transmission would be a very simple one time drain and fill. Don't worry about it "slipping" due to fluid changing...this is a concern for Auto Transmission only. See my other video where I change the manual transmission fluid on a 2009 Accord. Your procedure will be almost identical.

  • IDK n e thing bout transmissions. 2003 honda element.manuel. 130k miles on it. never had a trany fluid change. wanst driven hard ever. Should i flush it or will that make it start to slip due to crud geting knocked loose? PLEASE HELP ME I NEED IT CHANGED BUT am seriously scared i dont know much about transmissions. please

  • @DtoWnSux1

    If I'm reading your comment correctly, you have a manual transmission (w/ clutch)? If so, I wouldn't worry about and slippage. But if you have an automatic transmission and haven't changed the fluid....I'd be nervous about changing the fluid. Feel free to send me an email and we can discuss further.

  • @ManClubAustin yes its a 5speed manual. 130k miles on it. we just got it a month ago. n i dont believe transmission fluid was ever changed in it. the tranny doesnt act up at all. and guys at honda dealership said itd be fine to flush but its alot to risk . can you fill me in why i should or shouldnt be worried, because im scared if i get it changed or flushed it might start slipping but im not sure.

  • ok. never mind, check engine light light went off by itself after I drove it for a while and turned it off and back on...

  • I just did this on my Element after watching your vid(thanks), but my check engine light came on! any ideas why this happened? I followed all the steps, then double and triple checked everything...??

  • before puting new fluid in, you should always fill with vinegar and drive around for ahwile, then drain and fill with tranny fluid. FYI you can leave the vinegar in for up to 10000 miles before putting tranny fluid in.

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  • The Honda DLR wants $198.98 for full trans flush; including Torque Converter. The Parts Dept says I need 12 Qts of oil ($113 to oil) to do myself. It would seem that I'd never have 100% clean trans fluid If I keep mixing the old oil w/ new oil & drain & re-fill the trans 3 x and doing it 3 Qrts at time, any thoughts? Has anyone ever disconnected & drained from the Supply/Return hose that I saw on another posting here on YouTube? Thus saving the purchase of 7 additional quarts.

  • @TheGolfnut007

    Well, the Honda dealer doesn't do the disconnect the line trick. So I wouldn't do it to mine. It is your call. The damage that could potentially occur far outweighed the price of a few extra quarts IMO. A full flush isn't required unless you're way overdue.

    Hit up handa - accessories to purchase genuine Honda ATF fluid online. Even with shipping you'll save (they have a case for $64.31 plus shipping). They dealer is trying to make money off of you. Just say no!

  • @ManClubAustin Thank you, this was very helpful.

  • Question. I have a 2002 Accord and I really doubt the last owner changed the transmission fluid plus I have been lazy and I havent changed it since I got it. its got 226,000 plus on it and the tranny really hasnt acted up. I heard that if you miss the due date you mine as well leave it in there so you dont mess up the tranny. Should I do a flush or no?

  • @2studmuffin

    Well, I probably wouldn't add the "new" Honda ATF. But I would do a one time drain/fill of 3 qts. The ATF must be nasty!

  • @ManClubAustin Well what do you mean by not adding new Honda ATF? So just a one time drain and refill then? 

  • @2studmuffin

    Always replace with fresh fluid. What I meant by "new" was Honda's new ATF fluid formula (DW-1) vs the older formula (Z-1).

  • I change my transmission fluid every 6 months ....If it doesn't have a filter ....for me it's not that big of a deal

  • Thank you my friend, u just saved me alot of money- especially in this economy. Here in Indiana where gas is 4.17 every penny counts. :)

  • Honda element service manual states change at 60,000 miles if under mountainous, more severe conditions, then every 30,000 miles after that. But if not under these conditions the car manual states first change at 100,000 miles.

    Very good video, appreciated, but a little excessive on the frequency of changes needed.

  • @donsmith40

    Well, we live in Texas were it is often well over 100F. My wife also hauls a lot of stuff around with her Element. The way I see it, changing the ATF is a lot cheaper than trying to get a few more miles out of the old stuff. After all, it's very easy to change...easier than an oil change.

  • While the dealers here in Ontario charge about $9 a quart (!), they will throw in the crush washer if you ask nicely.

  • agreed .....Honda dealership wanted around 80 bucks to do this simple shi**.....DO IT YOURSELF people ..Us people with honda's r lucky....we dont have a filter to replace

  • @JurassicCock255 I've heard not having a filter is why they dont last as long as they could.

  • How much did the fluid cost you?

  • @impolw22

    $70 for a case (12) shipped to my house.

  • @ManClubAustin

    Where did you purchase the atf?

  • @impolw22

    From eBay, seller "dockguys". They have the old ATF formula (ATF-Z1). I offered $70 shipped, and they accepted. Try going lower and see if they take it...maybe $60-65.

  • Can you do a video on a 2006 honda accord and is it true that you only drain half the atf like that.

  • @lakerone2010

    I would if I had access to a 2006 Accord. But the process is going to be the same.  I think it is way more than half...I'd think it'd be more like 70-80%.

  • aa better way to change it would be to remove the drain plug like u did then add about 3 quarts of honda fluid hen remove the return line to the trans. cooler located by radiator then turn the car on and watch the fluid go from black and ugly to beatifull and red once u seee it red flush the red refill it wit the hhonda tranny fluid

  • Would this prosses be relitivly the same for a 1999 dodge dakota

  • @laidk5866

    I would assume so. However, I've never worked on Dodge Dakotas before.

  • lol, my GF's Civic hasn't had a ATF change in 120,000 miles, THAT'S overdue. Though, 120K is what the manual specifies, which I think is insane.

  • This may be a silly question. Sorry if I sound like an amateur, which I am.

    If you can use a water hose to flush coolant from the radiator, why can't you do the same for the transmission?

  • @petev1975

    Since your vehicle's cooling system uses a mixture of water and coolant, it's OK to flush it with water via a hose. But your transmission uses Transmission Fluid, which is oil based. And as they say...water and oil don't mix. So you should never add anything into the transmission besides the manufacturer's recommended fluid.

    You can avoid performing a flush in a Honda by doing a "drain and fill" every other motor oil change.

  • @ManClubAustin i drive a 92 accord and i heard flushing it 3times was unnecessary, doing so in an older transmission usually loosens deposits that have basically become part of the transmission. What do you think ?

  • Are you located in Austin, Texas? If so, I would love for to help with my transmission flush on my 2006 Honda civic. Let me know please. Thank you!

  • @lilnovathadon

    Yep, I'm in ATX. And sure...I'll show you how to do it. It's really easy.

  • you change the tranny fluid every 30,000 along with brake fluid and air filter if needed

  • Really nice video lots of explanation. I have no option paying Honda service station 80 bucks right now. But whenever I have garage and equipments I will do it my self.

  • someone told me to change your ATF every 16000miles which is 3 times you change your oil to keep transmission nice..

    I saw your other video about TAKEDA SRI does it really boost up your car performance and gas mileage?? and do I need to reset the ECU after installation? if yes can you tell me how to reset it, I'm curious about that, cause I just install AEM CAI with CARB sticker on it for 06 civic LX. well the car gets worst gas mileage and loss torque, I wonder what I've done wrong

  • @jacobhendry

    To reset the ECU, simply disconnect the negative battery connection and leave it off for a minute or two. Please note your radio code prior to disconnecting.

    The CAI or SRI will probably result in slightly lower torque on the low end. But the benefit is more on the higher end. As far as MPG, I don't think the intake will change it. You might be getting lower because you're flooring it to hear the engine!

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  • that was an awesome video, will try tomorrow morning, you have save some money, just like the other guys question, where is the filter located, I know your car not even 100K, but I do really want to know can you pls tell us how and where it is located, thanks..

  • i have an automatic 05 honda civic ex at 60k my fluid is brownish. never been changed ever . should I flush like you said in the video in one day? or should I just keep changing it once a month for about 3 months?

  • @EvaSlash

    Since the fluid is over 5 years old, I'd go ahead and recommend doing the entire flush for the first time. Then you can do the 3 quart flush every other oil change to keep it fresh. I bet your transmission will feel and shift a lot better with the new fluid.

    Thanks for watching!

  • do these trannies carry a trans fluid filter? this is the 3rd vid i've watch today on changing honda trans fluid and none of them have mentioned a filter...jus wanna clarify if they really carry a filter cuz my mechanic told me they have filters

  • @UrNemesis5366

    There is a filter on the tranny. They're "lifetime" filters.  I have one filter on hand, but I did not change it as my wife's element only has 40k miles. I will probably change it somewhere around the 80k-100k.

  • @ManClubAustin

    where is the filter located?

    I did not know that automatic transmission fluid even have a filter.

    I thought , you just drain and refill.

    Great instruction and thanks for sharing.

    I will try to drain my fluid on my 07 accord.

  • @ManClubAustin My '06 Sonata has a life time filter. From what I've read, its inside the transmission buried inside. Taking off the pan you wont see it. You have a Honda, so it may be different but I doubt it. Yes, I've been online and I've seen the filters, but I wouldn't bother just change the fluid. I did a drain and fill on my Sonata, I just drove around a week then drained and filled. Took 5 quarts I think each time. Thanks for the vid.

  • @ManClubAustin: Sr for off topic a little bit, as I look at the owner manual I don't see it shows any brake fluid changing. So do you know how to do that? would you recommend do that at home or bring to the dealer? Thank You.

  • @hellboyctn

    I will do a video on this too. It's part of the Maintenance Minder (MM)....and it's usually around every 30k.

  • @ManClubAustin

    Please do! But after the R-V6P Long J-Pipe install one, of course :)

  • @ManClubAustin.. I want to do the transmission oil change on my 2008 honda accord do you think I need a complete flush or just a drain and fill would be enough ? I have 27500 miles on it. I also want to use the Amsoil automatic transmission fluid for this procedure would you recommend it or you strongly oppose using anything but honda fluid? Please advice any suggestions are deeply appreciated.

  • @psuchit23

    Well, at 30k you're probably OK to do just a one time drain/fill which will use about 3 quarts. Then start repeating that every other oil change. It's a really easy job, just read the manual about the proper way to check the fluid level.

    I wouldn't see a problem using Amsoil. It is probably more expensive than Honda fluid. I dumped my M/T fluid in my Accord and used non-honda fluid...so I'm not opposed to it. But I only did that to fix an issue. Either ATF will be fine.

  • @psuchit23 - It's beneficial to change all the transmission fluid at once and get all new fresh transmission fluid into the transmission. I have a .pdf file I can e-mail to you that shows you step by step how to drain/flush all the old transmission fluid. I am an independent AMSOIL dealer and so yes, AMSOIL synthetic ATF is Honda Z-1 approved. With the AMSOIL synthetic ATF, you'll likely notice smoother shifting, quieter operation and extended transmission life.

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  • fyi thats not a flush thats call drain and fill a flush is were you hook up a machine your just wasting oil

  • @MrFinaldi

    I'm following the documented Honda procedure on how to completely change the ATF fluid. So, this is technically not a traditional "flush." But, this is the procedure that the dealer uses.

  • great job man!

  • i understand this method but its wasting brand new fluid cause when you drain the second time a lot of that new fluid is coming out... . and even draining and refilling 3 times i guarantee you still have 15% original fluid in there. why not unhook the tranny cooler lines and havea waste can for the line thats the return or send thats spitting out old fluid and the other line you have hooked up to a couple gallon bucket full of new fluid... keep the car in park and let it run

  • @seantyler23 you let it run until the fluid coming out of the waste line is nice and clean looking..... and there ya go 100% new fluid. no driving around and draining fresh fluid back out just to get more of the old fluid out. i will say that i will never have a oil change place like jiffy lube or something use their tranny flush machine cuz they are dumb and that machine actually has air pressure that pushes the fluid out so it gets done faster. I used to work at one Express Oil change lol!

  • thank you for posting this video!

  • Nice video, It was very helpful! I sometimes let the dealer do the ATF flush as they charge $90 and if you do it yourself the material alone will cost you around $70. I think the dealerships drain and fill 3 times as well, if not I got ripped off bad! lol

  • @raza8560

    I'd be shocked if a dealership did a full 8+ quart flush for $90, including labor. If I were a bettin' man, I'd wager that you got a pan fluid dump/refill for $90.

    My wife was quoted $79 for the pan dump/refill. She was also quoted $83 for the A/C cabin (HEPA) filter change. Simple maintenance like this is a cash cow for dealerships. Trust me, they're not doing you any favors. :)

  • @ManClubAustin Great deal, but what about the transmission filter? When should those be replaced?

  • @BronzeProductions I'd suggest following the maintenance minder schedule found in the owner's manual. At a glance, I didn't see a transmission filter change outlined in the schedule. So maybe it's a "lifetime" filter. But the filter is only $15, so I might change mine around 80-100K miles.

  • @ManClubAustin dude i talked to a dealership once and asked them what they do to service the transmission and they said just drain the pan and refill it... meaning only once! he straight up told me thats all they do so guys stop going there and overpaying. buy some fully synthetic ATF like amsoil or Mobil1 and do a flush yourself!!! message me if you need help on how to do it.

  • @ManClubAustin Thanks for outstanding video, Todd. The A/C cabin (HEPA) filter caught my eye. Do you have a video on changing that, or can you tell us where it is located on my wife's 2006 Element? The owners manuel tells us to have the dealer perform this task, which seems foolish, and they do not show a diagram, or tell you were to find the A/C cabin filter.

  • @15gary37

    I have a video changing it on my 2009 Accord. It's very similar. Go to my channel manclubaustin and check out all the videos.

    Thanks for watching, and as always.....keep 'em hangin'

  • @ManClubAustin Thanks, I have watched that video. I have placed many of your videos in my Favorites, as well as shared them with my Nashville son, who also has an 2008 Element; my wife's is 2006.

    Thanks also for eBay source for Honda Fluid. Saving $ is only part of the story; your giving us the confidence to do it ourselves is best. Do you have a video, or know of one, re changing the rear differential on a 4-wheel drive. We live in Cleveland, which is why my wife wanted the 4-wheel drive.

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