Freight and Amtrak Passenger Train collide in Chicago derail

[Emelec18]

amtrak smells like restroom everywhere

[Donincal]

Nice audio.

[EarthlyQuake]

I thought it was the beginning of some amazing rock song xD

[NateNATENate19]

I don't understand. what are you talking about?

[CSXKid5016]

How can you even be that selfish and say that?! A truck carrying steel rods got stuck in the crossing and got hit and you're saying its the Genesis engines fault? I mean really?

[npadul30]

@CSXKid5016

Was the Genesis fault they where going way to fast and ran a red signal and hit the back of another train.

[CSXKid5016]

@npadul30 We are not talking about the same accident. The accident I was referring to was an accident that occurred several years back where a truck loaded with steel went around lowered crossing gates and the City of New Orleans struck it and derailed, killing several adults and children. And he wasn't going way too fast. He just ran a red signal going the speed limit.

[andebebazzell]

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[pfsableful]

i like the this video

[chief10619]

engineer called the wrong signal at 518... red over yellow... he called medium approach which you cant even get there... it was restricting.. 15 mph or less prepared to stop short of a train, switch, workers, or obstruction... and 2 people in the head end got it wrong... accident could have been avoided if the railroads would go by one unified signal system...

[CSXKid5016]

Are you really that much of dumbass? First, you spelled Amtrak wrong. 2nd, A CAR RAN OUT IN FRONT OF THE TRAIN AND GOT HIT! You make it sound like it was there fault.

[railmantr21]

but i am saying we could use three as the old saying goes two heads are better than one but three and imagine what you could do. First and foremost i support a safer railroad not the elimination there of.

[RailMom]

I'm a Railroader too. I started out in the Twin Cities division then went to Chicago division, and the training SUCKED. If you have an junior engineer with less than 3 years experience, and both your conductor and breakman just came out of OJT, do you honestly believe that having 3 is better???

I disagree with you.... been there, done that.

[railmantr21]

first off if you are a trainmen please spell breakmen---brakemen and you are wrong about crew consist i know this for a fact because the the layout of crewmembers was HEADEND: Engineer,Firemen, and HEad Brakemen and REAREND: Conductor and Rear Brakemen that was the pre1950s in the 1960s most railroads abolished the firemen and in the 1980s most had abolished the caboose except for shoving duties. by the early 1990s the rear brakemen was abolished .. comment cont.

[railmantr21]

Comment cont. By the late 1990s the Head Brakemen was relegated to Extra board service except for the powder river basin loading pool crews on the BNSF which had a constant brakemen until a new agreement sold the brakemen for more basic mile that agreement took place in the early 2000s. You can actually look this information up if you wish.

NOTE: I am not saying that all railroads followed the same timeline on the crew reduction practices. Also cabooses were kept on the L&N until 83 with CSX.

[railmantr21]

Also please do not refer to an engineer as junior, if the individual isnt capable of doing the job he should not have been promoted by his/her RFE this is training problem not a railroad problem to many folks apply to work for railroad because its a job and do not have a keen interest in the craft and its history, its not just about the money its about the love of railroading and what it contributes to this nation I do not belive they teach enough railroad history in training either.

[railmantr21]

but note for the railroad as a corporation its not in their interest to educate you on past practices of the industry but it is your obligation to your chosen craft to investigate these issues. THE CRAFT WORKERS IGNORANCE IS THE HIS FOLLY AND IT IS THE CORPORATIONS CHECK MATE.

[RailMom]

DUDE... junior is in reference to their senority, not their ability. Secondly, why are you even getting all upset... chill out. Take a prozac.

[railmantr21]

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF MY LAST COMMENT. Before there were three people on a train there was four that included a conductor an engineer, 2 brakemen a head and a rear brakemen but that brings us to the elimination of the caboose which i will let you all investigate for yourselves but back to to crew consist up until the late 70s on some railroads trains still had firemen that bringing the total to 5 people on an average train i am not saying we need five people on a train---- cont"

[RailMom]

Actually, it wasn't 2 breakman. It was a conductir, engineer, breakman, and fireman.... but who's counting...

[RailMom]

*oops* conductor

[cubspiano]

next time you post, please learn how to spell...

[CSXKid5016]

Really, learn how to spell...

[TyVulpine]

Damn, reminds me of the Washington DC Metro collision several months ago (subway train rolled backwards and hit another train stopped at a station picking up passengers.)

[Thomas9193]

awesome music lol

[RailMom]

I think the biggest issue with Chicago (and I'm talking both Corwith and Cicero) is that there are way too many railroads operating out of there, and you have companies that either operate on GCOR or NORAC. And the training that the people receive on the C.O.R.A for Chicago is equal to giving them the book and saying, "here you go".

Perhaps if companies weren't so desperate to move trains, and instead trained people on both, this would have never happened.

[railmantr21]

I not going to argue with point about training, but I one being a railroader and two being avid lifelong rail aficinado/ rail supporter their are never too many railroad nor trains by contrast there are too few people on a train to prevent these issues and accidents from occuring just brief run down of the crew consist on an average freight train now is two people a conductor and an engineer not too many years back there three and that included a brakemen ---- cont" in second comment

[veriria]

I work onboard Amtrak trains, and one of the engineers in this crash was very close to being my step-mom at one point when I was younger. Hated the woman, but would never wish such a thing on anyone. Luckily she walked away with only a broken nose. As far as the actual accident went, she knew what the signal meant but the engineer who was actually operating the train thought he knew better and wouldn't listen to her. Quite a shame!

[outfromoutwhere]

Wow, that is shocking..

[veriria]

The other shocking part is she should have hit the emergency breaks if he didn't want to listen to her about what the signal meant. Or, you know, go slower instead of faster if they couldn't figure it out XD

[amtrakjackson]

Um, no, blame it Travis Hinton and improper training to 'save costs'.

The actual signal sequence was Approach at CP513, Restricting at Englewood. Engineer called signal at Englewood a "Slow Approach" which is NOT POSSIBLE at Englewood. Conductor acknowledged Slow Approach at Englewood!! Impossible!! But the engineer, who was forced to learn the signal indications of many railroads in the Chicago area, read the read over yellow aspect as SLOW APPROACH.

Even then the guy was violating.

[Pgro1973]

Blame this on a confusing signal system, you ever driven up to a traffic light in the sun, the newest railroad signals aren't much different.

[kmothersil]

Does anyone here know what's going to happen to engine 8? We already lost engines 149 and 143, which were scrapped and i don't think Amtrak wants another locomotive.

[SIMIHIGH2008]

looking at it , it doesnt look damanged beyond repair so they r probley going to repair it and it will be running again soon

[csxES44DC]

I've seen engine 8 before.

[newton2013]

what's the data we're listening to?

[FL9AC]

the genesis are NOT constructed of aluminum. They are made of steel like any other locomotive. I've seen these engines after they've hit large trees and cars and such and they actually take quite a beating. Like gnuts stated earlier, they almost have "crumple zones" to take most of the energy in a collision and dissipate it. For a 30 m.p.h crash into a standing object, that genesis carbody with the exception of the nose being crumpled, is still fully intact (including the cab).

[Ham549]

But they still suck F40PH's don't derail as easely and keep the crews safe even when one crashed into a loaded tanker truck causing a massive exploshion and fire the engineer survived.

[robertgift]

Why do they not derail as easily?

Three-wheeled trucks?

[CSXKid5016]

What do you mean?

[CSXKid5016]

They dont suck...But F40's were stronger.

[FL9AC]

the genesis are NOT constructed of aluminum. They are made of steel like any other locomotive. I've seen these engines after they've hit large trees and cars and such and they actually take quite a beating. Like gnuts stated earlier, they almost have "crumple zones" to take most of the energy in a collision and dissipate it. For a 30 m.p.h crash into a standing object, that genesis carbody with the exception of the nose being crumpled, is still fully intact (including the cab).

[qnuts]

genesis locos are light weight and designed purposely so that they do exactly what it did here instead of crushing itself as it plows into the back of a railcar. Much safer for the crew and the passengers.

[Eclipse2141]

i rode in one of the same trians on my way to chicago :/..weird

[Ham549]

Now when I saw the video of the F40PH train car collision the F40PH stood it's ground and pwned the other car.

[d0m93]

train orgasm

[ScrubsFreak08]

hahaha

[Stephenson18]

did eny one die hop not ?

[CSXKid5016]

Nope.

[xxdamonxx77]

All of those tracks and they ended up on the same one. What are the odds?

[qnuts]

Only three tracks are mains here, the rest are yard tracks. Two of the three were occupied by trains.

[Jeff4098]

A product of Morecraft.

[killuandyomamma]

lmao

AutisticPsycho ... train sex lol

[AutisticPsycho]

train sex lol

[Chile2007Earthquake]

lmao

[MMMMMDIESEL]

i just think its amazing that it just went on top of the freight train! you would think it would just derail and bunch up ya know!!

[qnuts]

That type of locomotive is designed to go up and over cars. It is suppose to be safer for the crew and passengers and also reduce the risk of damage to the train it collides with.

[MMMMMDIESEL]

thats sooo cool that they are designed for that

[Jabbajawz4life]

I saw this exact rain they day it derailed.

I live in chicago and this doenst happen alot.