I have Turkish and Greek friends. I never understand why Turks and Greeks can't get along well. Everytime we all get together, they just want to choke on each other's throats and I enjoy watching it...he he he!!! No, man, just kidding! I sometimes think if they are homos because they always spend time together, we all do things together and we are best buddies. They tell me that it's all politics... anyhow, glad to see our President has given a nice speech.
This message is for the Turkish government, Greek Orthodox Church and Roman Catholics Church. I , the leader of the organization the FAA, have been manipulating both churches in Bestheda MD and Arlington VA. Both Christian Criminal Organizations have been ratting, spilling and are on the verge of ultimate destruction. Both parties believe everything I say and are making a fool out of themselves, they actually believe me. I would like the Gov. of Turkey to recognize this as actually happening.
@Ukufaul strategic reason, I mean we don't hate american people or culture or way of life, I mean we hate its policy and of course the CIA, we are not racist
@Gurbetci83 you dont how happy that is gonna make so many americans, we all cant wait to get out of this country that is stuck back in the past. It is time they Afganistan take over since there arent so as many taliban wondering in the streets. take control of there own country security, OHHH I forgot, you guys cant, the minute americans leave, the talibans will comeback and start with supressing the people mostly women, who from i heard arent allowed to go to school,
america and uk and eu also israel terorist organisatons and trhey hide their teror under name of democrasy shame on u so call lier democratick wankers usa uk and israel we have no business with u pegans
The very existence of Turkey is a colossal "Fuck You" to all the self-righteous, capitalist, covered with a peaceful image but actually breeder of evil countries. Please "I know everything and have the strongest opinion" kind of internet surfers: Read a little about Turkish War Of Independence. You will see that Turkey is not as primitive as they are portrayed in the media. We aren't doing so well at the moment with the mindless muslims and kurds but we will prevail.
saddam hussein was authority as well, according to wikkileaks, saddam was willing to agree to Kurdish autonomy in northern Iraq even as far as Kirkuk. the agreement was only scraped after Turkish diplomats made their way to Baghdad and threaten saddam if he went along with those plans. makes you wonder if Turkey has had something to do with other violence in Iraq towards Kurds. how can Kurds live with these people? Turkey is done dealing with armenians, Greeks and Jews, now there is only Kurds
if the PKK is terrorist then so was george washington. Turkish government is run by the military generals who make billions of dollars out of the unrest between Kurds and Turks. the fact of the matter is that the PKK, an organization that has no responsibility to uphold the laws of geneva convention regarding warfare and rights of prisoners, but they do while the Turkish military mutilates Kurdish peshmergas. so what makes the PKK a terrorist and Turkey an authority?
Barack Obama is an ignorant man. I'm sorry to say that he gives no concrete answers to almost all of the questions. He keeps on talking around the answer he needs to give. I dislike things to be left unsaid. Espacially nowadays, WE NEED CLEARNESS! He calls the PKK terrorists, that means he does not know what he is talking about. He has not the slightest idea about de human rights being rudely tresspassed by the Turkisch Government. It's sad to see, such a big powerful man, to be so ignorant.
bullshit! Mr Obama praising to one of the most evil country with the such a history that conatains so many mascars and act of Evils against Armenians, Kurds, Greeks, Arabs .... ect! so why the hell is he praising Turkey for! he never mentions about Human Rights violations that Turkey has commited for centries! even Obama knows he's not telling the truth! it's all about politics
@king36er u c all wat u Turks can do is2 swear & be agressive in order 2 make a point! cuz u fucking Turks r like animals & have no brain 2act like a civilized human! that's y no1 likes u in this WORLD! u just agressive towards ppl who r peaceful such as greeks, kurd and armenians but wen it comes to fight Israel al of u put ur dicks right up ur asses so Israel will not fuck u more mother fkrs!half of ur terrorists bcame fish food in the international waters and tell us WHAT DID U DO ABT IT!
@king36er may be instead of spreading lies on YourTube mate u should seek for revenge from Israel like we seek revenge from you Murders!!! u should be ashamed instead of being proud to be a Turk if u can only look back at ur History! it's full of bloodshed, rape, torture, racisim and invasions! shame on you!
Some evil countrys like armenia... are the biggest liars,
for example we have a ottoman empire over 500years in the balkan region there are some church who was build before the ottoman empire comes there and you can still find this church at this days there but what does the christians serbians in the Balkan war with the Mosques they destroy all!?
We still on the side from oppressed peoples, Palestinians, South Koreans...
Put your liar brainwash Propaganda in your bitch moms Asshole!
To all these people who are Greek, or not, bringing up the political issues between Greece and Turkey.... Allowing Turkey into the EU will only allow both countries to washout the past and move to a better peaceful future. I'm a Turk living in Canada, and my best friend is Greek, and he was born and raised in Greece. The Turks in my community all get along well with Greek, because in our society and culture we live together and we communicate due to our similar cultures. Obama is right.
@christosdouskos that is only a stupid imagine and will be like that in everytime.WE VANISHED TO BYZANTS FROM THE WORLD AREA IN 1453 .AND ANY FUCKING ASHOLE COUNTRY CANT TAKE OUR DREAM CITY .ISTANBUL WILL BE OUR CITY FOREVER .YOU KNOW THAT.SO I THINK SOMEONE ARE RAMPING LIKE A DOG.SOMEONE ARE RIPING OWN ASS. I LAUGHED YOUR SAID WITOUT USING MY MOUTH.
@fatihakmese, Turkey has lands in Europe, but that's not enough for being considered as European. President Obama could decide for the USA, but not for Europe. Everyone knows that Euopeans are mostly against the integration of Turkey into their community. Not only because of some cultural background of the Turkish people, but also, and simply, because Turkey is not an European country. The French president Nicola Sarkozy stressed on it many times.
@me1sbx did u really think eu or Sarkozy care about geography? sarkozy doesn't know what he said. if the "right situation" comes even armenia and georgia can get in eu and can considered as "European"...
EU and Europeans dont want Turkey yeah. that just because most of Turkish people is Muslim. For example, Turkish and Greek people not that different. Even our democratic moves and cultures are similar. but they r "European", Turkey is "not" because they r Christians we are Muslims...
That is just another excuse put up by the UN. Its clear..
We are muslim. We used to be their enemy, they lost major wars. They still cannot get over it. It's clear. Don't come up to me and talk about "clean" history.
France, Germany, Greece, Britain. - They played it much much worse in times!!!!!
@ArmorDinnerJacket That doesn't justify the mass murdered Turks in the Armenian case or any other case.
Greece is in Europe,but they have mass murdered thousands of innocent Turks.How about that? Please lets not start the argument that all the UN countries are "clean" in their war crimes. PLEASE thatsBS.
@xFantasyartx I realized that..I explain and i say,mistakes have been made.everyone should be punished. Members of UN have also committed genocides. Only few been punished, yet all try bash Turkey.
Turkey would accept genocide if the views of UN weren't bias.If you are going to charge someone,charge everyone.Turkey was subject to genocide too.
Some people are not looking for explanation and they just want to get their frustration of the Turks.Thats low and sad. Here comes the thumbs downs..
talked sth... sth..sth... nice things... but no reality and sincerity.
dont try to teach us how to act, USA and dont forget, we know who obama is, just another president of an aim that has been the same for centuries.... turkish people know you,american leaders! you'll never deceive us...
talked sth... sth..sth... nice things... but no reality and sincerity.
dont try to teach us how to act, USA and dont forget, we know who obama is, just another president of an aim that has been the same for centuries.... turkish people know you,american leaders! you'll never deceive us...
The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period."
Prof. K.S. Lal, suggests a calculation in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India which estimates that between 1000 AD and 1500 AD the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million. Even those Hindus who converted to Islam were not immune from persecution, which was illustrated by the Muslim Caste System in India as established by Ziauddin al-Barani in the Fatawa-i Jahandari. where they were regarded as "Ajlaf" caste and subjected to severe discrimination by the "Ashraf" castes.
Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples.
William Durant, author of the "Story of Civilization" has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.
The 1st Crusade was launched in 1096. Prior to that, Muslims conquered Syria 635, Palestine 638, Persia 642, Eqypt 642, North Africa 642-698, Kabul 711, the Indus region/Samarkand/Spain 712, Toulouse 721, Kyrgyzstan 751, Armenia 1071. Muslim expansion into Europe was only stopped at Tours in 732 and the gates of Vienna 1683
Encyclopedia Britannica informs that in December 1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi and after the battle those inhabitants not killed were removed as slaves, while other references say the number of captives butchered by Timur Lane's army was about 100,000. Later on Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod'.
@ArmorDinnerJacket What genocide hahaha you must be fooling who is going to believe this book. He is christian and we already saw that EU club backing up Armenia. Any facts?? NO!
Russia and Armenia following 1700 old protocol to exterminate all turks. There was no genocide if this protocol is already 200years old and the event started 1915! Armenian scums :) watch the clip how scared russia is for the turks.
@ArmorDinnerJacket Russia and Armenia following 1700 old protocol to exterminate all turks. There was no genocide if this protocol is already 200years old and the event started 1915! Armenian scums :) watch the clip how scared russia is for the turks.
@ArmorDinnerJacket Aggressive and genocidal ? hahah Yes, yes. They are. Blame it all on them. Whole of Europe attacks Turkey in a purpose to wipe them off the planet, being subject to genocide itself, Turkish are blamed for it. Yep, and you said we are aggressive. I am guessing you are a European? Look at your comment, so peaceful. You have such a superior and an objective point of view. No wonder world is a better place with you people ruling it. 'god bless'
If you read the history, you can realize that is exactly what the European powers tried to do. They got what they deserved though. Maybe that is why the Europeans are so angry.
Genocide, casulties, rape basically war crimes. HAPPEN. Turkey is not the only part who has committed this. Neither was Turkey the only country who was subject to those crimes. In war these happens. UGLY but yes it happens. Can we stop blaming one side?
good - however, turkish parliament still seeks entry
and if you read history you will know that the ottoman empire tried to invade europe on many occasions
constantinople was once the head of the eastern orthocox church, before invading muslims slaughtered their way across the byzantine countries
yes, war crimes happen, however turkey refuses to recognise the slaughter of 1.5 million armenians and many thousands of greeks - pogroms that even lasted into the 1950's
@ArmorDinnerJacket If you lie please do it on a proper way where there is no evidence. Its working you every replaced the [] with the ones on keyboard?
@ArmorDinnerJacket Turkey invaded Cyprus because the Turks were getting slaugthered by the Greeks who outnumbers the Island.
Those people are lucky, Turkey didn't invade the whole of Cyprus. We could, but we didn't. We aren't as evil as you might think after all. Try to research both sides of the story.
I have pictures and videos of the killings of Turkish babies and pregnant women. Turkey invaded it after those killings. Why are you so one sided. Oh yeah, Turkey basher is a winner..
ok there are many massacres carried out/financed by western countries, but it's down to the governments as you said..
so please blame the government next time instead of saying muslims or turks because then you're not only blaming the government but also the people.. which we really do not deserve as the only muslim nation that has strong ties with nato, un, us, eu and israel..
@ArmorDinnerJacket in ottoman records, there is 150.000 armenians that recorded with tehcir laws (compulsory emigration) but events that occoured with tehcir some records says 300.000 armenians lost their houses (not their lives)...
in treaty of sevres, allied forces (in 1920) told new turkish republic u got to be admit that you've killed 200.000 armenians, than we're gonna admit your revolution...
i've confused. how ppl can told 1million blabla... dead armenians can multiply
@ArmorDinnerJacket so again, with all respect, i've a armenian gf, i'm a Yoruk Turk... (which is most barbaric turkic clan in your minds) but we're all sorry about that events in 1915-1919... there are turkish ppl lost their home and lives too. armenians was before that events "our fellowed countrymans"... we're lost our brothers in that events actually...
but plz give a rest. and let this thing to armenians and turks. this is "OUR" problem. not goverments, not yours...
True,Ottoman Empire like most other big Empires in our World History had expanded its borders by attacking and conquering other countries.When leaving Vienna unlike Napeleon, Ottomans didn't set the city on fire.
Without having to fight to survive, war is mass murder.Any human with the right set of mind would agree to that.
Just because they were repelled doesn't mean they can't burn the city when leaving!
Those are not excuses or supports for the killings.You just want a fucking thumbs up from here and there trying to bash me up. All i did say was War is wrong. But Genocide wasn't only done by Turkey. If Turkey is to get charges, so should get all the others.i said wrongdoers should be treated the same way.I didn't say they shouldn't be punished.
@ArmorDinnerJacket do you think UN is the boss over the world? Asia and Arabs did not vote. There is no solid proof about this so called genocide..
Second of all the russians started with the Armenians to destroy Turks. i showed you a movie clip you where like "i dont get it" and this event started in 1725 or so that means armenia en Russia is even guilty starting it and then 200 years later trying to blackmail the US and EU.
Third of all, the Armenian president trapped himself in it.
@ArmorDinnerJacket Should have know it wasn't worth the energy to try and explain. You are obviously not looking for an explanation. You just want to bash any Turk no matter what they say to you.
the UN have declared it a genocide - as palestinians keep whining that counter attacks by Israel are genocide, then the slaughter 0f Armenian and Greeks most certainly is.
I agree with the findings of the UN on this and still do not think turkey should be part of Europe as obama thinks for the refusal to admit to barbaric ethnic cleansing against civilians and from my visits there
Prime minister shouldn't accept the word genocide to describe the killings.Greece had mass murdered many Turks too.Nobody seems to question that.I don't hate Greeks,we are humans,mistake is natural.But i just want to say,we should treat the wrongdoers the same way.
Turkish parliament will always seek entry for political reasons, though it will never lead Turkey going into the UN as a permanent member.
@ArmorDinnerJacket also the greeks from thrace fleed because their army lost the batte...why is that when people around us fight us and get their ass kicked they cry about genocide??
@ArmorDinnerJacket they fled because their Army lost the battle..then they lied and said we threw them into the aegean sea...when in fact they themselves fled on boats..some even took turns swimming
"Meanwhile, the plan to destroy all Greek property in the city was now fully under way. A hundred gangs of rioters were busy carrying out their terrible task, covering a vast area that stretched from the Bosphorus to the Sea of Marmara. Each gang had a leader who was armed with a list of the houses and shops in his area owned by Greeks. It was an organised tornado of violence which swept away everything in its path. Dozens of Greek citizens and clergymen were beaten up.
Altogether 73 Greek churches were plundered or burned. Icons, murals and holy chalices of inestimable historic and archaeological value were destroyed. All the city's 26 Greek schools were completely demolished. The Patriarchal School at Fanari, established in 1453, and the Theological School on Halki were subjected to the fury of the rabble in an act of extreme barbarism.
The Zappeion High School was attacked and the statue of its benefactor, Constantinos Zappas, sent tumbling down the great marble staircase. The mob did not stop at ruining desks, a piano and the school hall but also did immense damage to the murals that decorated the interior walls of the school.
In all, 4,340 Greek shops and stores were looted and destroyed that night; 2,600 Greek homes were caught in the eye of the storm and submitted to the mob's unprecedented wrath. The offices and printing presses of the city's three big Greek newspapers were literally smashed to pieces.
The offices of Olympic Airways, then known as T.A.E., on Cumhuriyet Street in Elmadag were visited twice by the rabble. " Eyewitness testimony by Leonidas Koumakis survivor of the Constantinople Pogrom of September 6, 1955 as documented in his testimonial book
@ArmorDinnerJacket dude, where did u get that "Historical Education" bro, in wikipedia? ahahaha... Now, if u think that is a "academical discipline" which is can learn from "college" or somethign, i got to say you "FUCK YOU" and your "IDEA of Civilization"
You're just a Racist... Just like Hitler, Nazis or Mussolini... Go and check them from Wikipedia...
@ArmorDinnerJacket the greeks of Izmir actually burned the city after they fleed because they didnt want it to fall into the hands of Turkish people..and later blamed the Turks for burning it..why would we burn it because for years there were no olives growing there and there starting to just have a olive industry now...
@ArmorDinnerJacket lmao i dont know who gives you thumbs up.. prejiduce people are never good people..you sir are a racist...i will not argue with a racist who just makes false accusations against a group of people and beleives bad stuff about them instantly...dont even lie about your research because if you really did do research you wouldnt be so biased
@ArmorDinnerJacket lmao your on arguments are racist...you may not admit it...but you claim that Turks are bad people because you think bad stuff happened in history...which did on both sides..so i dont think only Turks should be blamed as you do, and I dont think the events in 1915 should be used today for political gains and power
Erdogan is a Superiour leader. Do not underestimate him. You wont win! i also voted for AKP because he is eliminating the spies from 1920+ the general has brought to court. He wanted to terrorize Turkey and Blame it on AKP!
I saw these statistics and it said that before Bush came into office about 52% of the Turkish population liked the US and thought that it'd be a nice place to live.
Today, it's (according to that chart) dropped down to 12%. I think, destroying the image of the US is one of the worst things Bush did to the US.
Though, I'm one of those 12% lol. Every country has a fucked up leader every once in a while. Can't help it.
I like his speech and I wished all Turks would appreciate the democratic and secular system of the Turkish Republic as it's struggling to survive between extreme kemalists and fundamental islamists.
We have managed to create an extraordinary state. One of the earliest nations to allow women to vote, to have actualy equality and a national bond holding us together.
Unfortunately, it's crumbling... I hope these harsh times will be over soon.
Turkish democracy and secularism is not under danger. It is fight which is result of mistrust between muslim democrats(not islamist) and hard seculars.
No step taken back in the term of democratic and secular system. I think we should be accustomed to the idea of Muslim democratic parties as Christian democratic parties exist in EU.
Gosh, do you even know how much of an islamist the head of gov, Erdogan, is?
Our country is fucked up like China after the communists had taken over, and I'm not making this up... I used to love my hometown, Kadiköy, Istanbul, but now there's mosques with speakers everyhwhere..
Erdogan does not care for this country, he eliminated many of his political enemires, weakened the military, even called some of our high leading judges "terrorists".
He "seems" democratic, while he does not give a shit about the workers of this country. All he cares about is money. And you know it.
..do you actually know turkish politics, or did you just read some wikipedia articles?
Because Erdogan's the one who ordered the gov to wiretap the parliment, the AKP ordered to put listening device on TVs sold to many people, both rich and poor.
CHP has always been more democratic then any other parties, and even during the one-party-rule during Atatürk's lifetime they had not been such fashists like AKP and other religious parites. I agree on the MHP part, though.
By the look at granting cultural right to the Kurdish, which I support as a Turk, and improvement of Turkish Armenians relations, I can't see faschist side of this government. They can't act like faschist because they need vote of Kurdish.
They are islamist supporter of radical sharia law which is like Nazism, do not tolerate different opinions.
There are shame for people who vote to AKP, they also did it for their sound economic program. not for being religious or they support Islamism. It is the fact. Even the Erdoğan hisshelf lieing about he was a perfect supporter of Atatürk on any occasion.
Shall I say ye what, I would feel shamed if I voted CHP or MHP and any other actual party as well.
Atatürks dream will come one day ! Our democracy will be envied.
well I do support Atatürks dream, but a major revamp of Turkish politics is indeed necassary.
However, if there's no good gov at all, should the military take action, then? I don't think that's such a good idea, after 4 Coup d'état that happened so far..
And one more thing: There's no really culture that the Kurdish have that would be worth defending or granting, let's be honest.
I can't even imagine another coups as well today, as it did in 1960 and 1980, that was that times, today it is possible interventions to the politic as it did in the election of Güls for the presidency. There could have been such if they follow their atack to the organs of the state.
There is no considerable demand for coups, and need and reasons.
We will improve our democracy thanks to the threads! This mainlaw doesn't meet our demand, no one is satisfied.
They have a culture, I may like or dislike listening their musics. Personally I don't like Kurdish music. They have feodal and economic problems, which is a problem we all have to pay for. It also destroy Turkeys image.
But the fact is those people have rooth one of the oldest civilization on the earth. They are ignored undeveloped.
My say is: let them live and produce their culture and develope, lets see kurdish books, novels in the book stores. as well as any book of any anatolian etnicity.
hm, well I'd be fine with that, if only many Kurdish citizens would not further develop their "relations" with the terrorist organisation, PKK.
The problem is that the gov is mostly supressing the Kurdish, and rather "opening" our country to the Armenians, which would be fine, if most of the Armenian population was not after destroying our country, and that is one truth that may not be hidden.
@AttitudeGamesGod yea i know...why the hell should we open our borders to Armenia?? when they want land from us and is massacring azeri's...also accusing us for doing genocide!!
@ArmorDinnerJacket no we DID NOT stop trying to make the world accept your false accusations for your political reasons, just because Armeiansrebels got their ass kicked along side the russian forces in WW1...and just because the map of Armenia today is not the same map Armenians drew a century ago as "Armenian homeland"
@ArmorDinnerJacket first of all who said it was 1.5 million..i'm actually hearing that it raised to 2 million now..and anyways Armenian rebels were stockpiling weapons waiting for the war to break out so they can revolt but however before the war they carried out many massacres and provoke many conflicts and later the west claimed it was the Armenians who were victims..
Yes Turkey will not join the EU, they are creating a Turkish Islamic Union. Eu is getting weakend look at greece soon other countries will collapse. And they will not have any choice to join the Turkish Islamic union. And The Turks will accept them with open arms.
better brush up on that technology and productivity then
Dr. Farukh Saleem, UMT Lahore:
The combined annual GDP of the 57 OIC countries is under $2 Trillion, America by herself produces goods and services worth $12Trillion, China $8 Trillion, Japan $3.8 Trillion...(purchasing power parity basis)...Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait collectively produce mostly oil worth $500 billion...Muslim GDP is declining...
@ArmorDinnerJacket hey dude this is not America, China, Japan etc they are not in EU...
Eu wasn't build in 10years it took 50years or so to realise the project and make it official. We have seen that Greece is falling apart soon more will follow..
@ArmorDinnerJacket Most of the Turkic countries never had ties with people. Japan had no problem with any country. US and EU supressed middle east and asia thats why countries can not grow. You must look at the history france, netherlands, armenia, russia, germany, usa, england, spain, italy they all commited genocide to another country. And now they say terrorists occupy there countries..
I have Turkish and Greek friends. I never understand why Turks and Greeks can't get along well. Everytime we all get together, they just want to choke on each other's throats and I enjoy watching it...he he he!!! No, man, just kidding! I sometimes think if they are homos because they always spend time together, we all do things together and we are best buddies. They tell me that it's all politics... anyhow, glad to see our President has given a nice speech.
lambent123 1 month ago
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shoplifting1is1fun 2 months ago
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@soadtr you are not all!!! you go to hell we are more than you!!
Tattooluxembourg 3 months ago
go to hell son of bitch obama.we hate you all
soadtr 4 months ago
türk deyince heyecanlandım :D
rapnroll2 6 months ago
this clovn is controling Nato slaves like Turkey ,they are just joint for killing farmers in Arab world i dont see any other picture
RULE257 7 months ago
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TAKE YOUR WRAP UP STINKY HEADS OUT OF YOUR INFIDEL GOD'S ASS, AND TELL THE TRUTH , YOU LIER BRAINLESS INFIDEL WOODHEAD MOTHER FUCKER TURKS
xxnick007xx 7 months ago
Obama should join the elections in Turkey at summer.. Look, he speaks in turkish parliement (this is what armenians don't want to see).
spemux 8 months ago
This message is for the Turkish government, Greek Orthodox Church and Roman Catholics Church. I , the leader of the organization the FAA, have been manipulating both churches in Bestheda MD and Arlington VA. Both Christian Criminal Organizations have been ratting, spilling and are on the verge of ultimate destruction. Both parties believe everything I say and are making a fool out of themselves, they actually believe me. I would like the Gov. of Turkey to recognize this as actually happening.
TheARpeggIa 9 months ago
Why does his voice like the clip where he calls the spacestation? what are they trying to cover up now?;]
I love you my AnnA
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AnnAAngel1564 10 months ago
How many kids do you have barry? soon to be publiszied lol.
AnnAAngel1564 10 months ago
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@AnnAAngel1564 Who wrote this
AnnAAngel1564 10 months ago
@AnnAAngel1564 Who wrote this
fire cannot be put out with fire(quote the whitehouse) I disagree, hold a flaming piece of paper to a lighting match and the match will burn out. D;]
AnnAAngel1564 10 months ago
i love turkey ;]
AnnAAngel1564 1 year ago
we are not ally we hate you, we ought to take side among the eastern powers, and we are doing it slowly slowly
Gurbetci83 1 year ago
@Gurbetci83 then why are you in afganistan helping us ?.
Ukufaul 1 year ago
@Ukufaul strategic reason, I mean we don't hate american people or culture or way of life, I mean we hate its policy and of course the CIA, we are not racist
Gurbetci83 1 year ago
@Gurbetci83 CIA?..everyone loves 2 hate CIA.
but now one knows realy what CIA doing ....I think you should take time to hate something take time to help someone or somethinge.
Ukufaul 1 year ago
@Gurbetci83 you dont how happy that is gonna make so many americans, we all cant wait to get out of this country that is stuck back in the past. It is time they Afganistan take over since there arent so as many taliban wondering in the streets. take control of there own country security, OHHH I forgot, you guys cant, the minute americans leave, the talibans will comeback and start with supressing the people mostly women, who from i heard arent allowed to go to school,
jayalakshmi1008 1 year ago
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obama is illuminati antichrist he wants
to be in egypt cairo duh they will think he is the mahdi he is ad dajjal the egyptian eye like ra is the god of this world
but Allah is the lord of the worlds
johelandakeem 1 year ago
america and uk and eu also israel terorist organisatons and trhey hide their teror under name of democrasy shame on u so call lier democratick wankers usa uk and israel we have no business with u pegans
TurkshFtr 1 year ago
stop bullshitting about terrorism, the only reason the PKK is still active becouse the EU and USA are funding the PKK, ffs!
KarakuraRiser 1 year ago
Ne mutlu Türküm diyene!*
MertS66 1 year ago
The very existence of Turkey is a colossal "Fuck You" to all the self-righteous, capitalist, covered with a peaceful image but actually breeder of evil countries. Please "I know everything and have the strongest opinion" kind of internet surfers: Read a little about Turkish War Of Independence. You will see that Turkey is not as primitive as they are portrayed in the media. We aren't doing so well at the moment with the mindless muslims and kurds but we will prevail.
Ne mutlu Türk'üm diyene.
MertS66 1 year ago
saddam hussein was authority as well, according to wikkileaks, saddam was willing to agree to Kurdish autonomy in northern Iraq even as far as Kirkuk. the agreement was only scraped after Turkish diplomats made their way to Baghdad and threaten saddam if he went along with those plans. makes you wonder if Turkey has had something to do with other violence in Iraq towards Kurds. how can Kurds live with these people? Turkey is done dealing with armenians, Greeks and Jews, now there is only Kurds
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
if the PKK is terrorist then so was george washington. Turkish government is run by the military generals who make billions of dollars out of the unrest between Kurds and Turks. the fact of the matter is that the PKK, an organization that has no responsibility to uphold the laws of geneva convention regarding warfare and rights of prisoners, but they do while the Turkish military mutilates Kurdish peshmergas. so what makes the PKK a terrorist and Turkey an authority?
TheScienceofnature 1 year ago
Turkish Democracy, hahahahahahahaahah. Thats the funniest thing I've ever heard...
Ozzie91 1 year ago
@Ozzie91 when i raped you mum i heart fuck ozzie now thats the funniest thing iv ever heard
lol38810 1 year ago
Barack Obama is an ignorant man. I'm sorry to say that he gives no concrete answers to almost all of the questions. He keeps on talking around the answer he needs to give. I dislike things to be left unsaid. Espacially nowadays, WE NEED CLEARNESS! He calls the PKK terrorists, that means he does not know what he is talking about. He has not the slightest idea about de human rights being rudely tresspassed by the Turkisch Government. It's sad to see, such a big powerful man, to be so ignorant.
Ozzie91 1 year ago
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roselazz128 1 year ago
The truth is so many other Countrys try to destroy Turkey like Ex-Jugoslavia,
USA supports the terrorist organisation PKK with arms.
But we are not so dumb asses like some Balkan people,
we will be protect our T.C Country what ever it will be cost us...
Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene
king36er 1 year ago
fuck usa and israel and uk and nato and eu
TurkshFtr 1 year ago
bullshit! Mr Obama praising to one of the most evil country with the such a history that conatains so many mascars and act of Evils against Armenians, Kurds, Greeks, Arabs .... ect! so why the hell is he praising Turkey for! he never mentions about Human Rights violations that Turkey has commited for centries! even Obama knows he's not telling the truth! it's all about politics
khunchaa 1 year ago
@khunchaa
My dick in your dirty liar mouth ist the truth dumb bitchass
king36er 1 year ago
@king36er u c all wat u Turks can do is2 swear & be agressive in order 2 make a point! cuz u fucking Turks r like animals & have no brain 2act like a civilized human! that's y no1 likes u in this WORLD! u just agressive towards ppl who r peaceful such as greeks, kurd and armenians but wen it comes to fight Israel al of u put ur dicks right up ur asses so Israel will not fuck u more mother fkrs!half of ur terrorists bcame fish food in the international waters and tell us WHAT DID U DO ABT IT!
khunchaa 1 year ago
@khunchaa
Man go home with your liar brainwash therapy...
The Armenian Genocid is the greatest History Lie of the 20Century,
Our soldiers dies in Southkorea where youre us soldiers run away dumbasses your History Libary is a fake nothing more
king36er 1 year ago
@king36er may be instead of spreading lies on YourTube mate u should seek for revenge from Israel like we seek revenge from you Murders!!! u should be ashamed instead of being proud to be a Turk if u can only look back at ur History! it's full of bloodshed, rape, torture, racisim and invasions! shame on you!
khunchaa 1 year ago
@khunchaa
Some evil countrys like armenia... are the biggest liars,
for example we have a ottoman empire over 500years in the balkan region there are some church who was build before the ottoman empire comes there and you can still find this church at this days there but what does the christians serbians in the Balkan war with the Mosques they destroy all!?
We still on the side from oppressed peoples, Palestinians, South Koreans...
Put your liar brainwash Propaganda in your bitch moms Asshole!
king36er 1 year ago 3
@khunchaa
Pray to God thats the USA secure Israel, we would destroy you in a three day War believe me.. Who knows maybe we see this someday because you know:
Allah Huekbar
king36er 1 year ago
Turkey does not need obama or america. Turkey needs alliance with russia and iran. Thats the future.
selimyarga 1 year ago
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EASTANBULxxxTURKISH 1 year ago
To all these people who are Greek, or not, bringing up the political issues between Greece and Turkey.... Allowing Turkey into the EU will only allow both countries to washout the past and move to a better peaceful future. I'm a Turk living in Canada, and my best friend is Greek, and he was born and raised in Greece. The Turks in my community all get along well with Greek, because in our society and culture we live together and we communicate due to our similar cultures. Obama is right.
hasanaltan 1 year ago 15
@hasanaltan WHAT MAKES U THINK THAT THE PAST DESERVES TO BE WASHED AWAY?
one day we will take back constanine and rape ur woman kill ur children as u fucking animals did to us
christosdouskos 10 months ago
@christosdouskos that is only a stupid imagine and will be like that in everytime.WE VANISHED TO BYZANTS FROM THE WORLD AREA IN 1453 .AND ANY FUCKING ASHOLE COUNTRY CANT TAKE OUR DREAM CITY .ISTANBUL WILL BE OUR CITY FOREVER .YOU KNOW THAT.SO I THINK SOMEONE ARE RAMPING LIKE A DOG.SOMEONE ARE RIPING OWN ASS. I LAUGHED YOUR SAID WITOUT USING MY MOUTH.
722273941 7 months ago
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Tukey is an important part of Europe he said!
But Turkey is an Asian country isn't it?
May be Obama has to receive some geography lessons from Nicolas Sarkozy?
me1sbx 1 year ago
@me1sbx Turkey is simply an eurasia country :) turkey has lands in europe too. go and search it, receive some geography lessons and search "thrace"
fatihakmese 1 year ago
@fatihakmese, Turkey has lands in Europe, but that's not enough for being considered as European. President Obama could decide for the USA, but not for Europe. Everyone knows that Euopeans are mostly against the integration of Turkey into their community. Not only because of some cultural background of the Turkish people, but also, and simply, because Turkey is not an European country. The French president Nicola Sarkozy stressed on it many times.
me1sbx 1 year ago
@me1sbx did u really think eu or Sarkozy care about geography? sarkozy doesn't know what he said. if the "right situation" comes even armenia and georgia can get in eu and can considered as "European"...
EU and Europeans dont want Turkey yeah. that just because most of Turkish people is Muslim. For example, Turkish and Greek people not that different. Even our democratic moves and cultures are similar. but they r "European", Turkey is "not" because they r Christians we are Muslims...
fatihakmese 1 year ago
That is just another excuse put up by the UN. Its clear..
We are muslim. We used to be their enemy, they lost major wars. They still cannot get over it. It's clear. Don't come up to me and talk about "clean" history.
France, Germany, Greece, Britain. - They played it much much worse in times!!!!!
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
1918-1920:Armenians massacred 2300 Turks.
1963-1974:"(Turkish Military)Won't be able to find any Turks to save"-Makarios-the Guardian
20.000Turks were thrown into camps.Hundreds of them murdered by the Greeks.Before Turkish Invasion of Cyprus.
I have video and pictures.
Greeko-Turkish war.Numbers go up to thousands.
Murder has no excuse,but everyone should be charged.Not only Turkey.
With all respect.
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
so only about 1.47 million less than slaughtered by turkey
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket That doesn't justify the mass murdered Turks in the Armenian case or any other case.
Greece is in Europe,but they have mass murdered thousands of innocent Turks.How about that? Please lets not start the argument that all the UN countries are "clean" in their war crimes. PLEASE thatsBS.
How come it is more barbaric when Turks do it..?
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
your ignorance is quite clear
once again you are trying to justify a slaughter committed by ottoman turks by pointing out other crimes
tu quoque is not justification
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket
No its not. You will understand what you want. As long as you keep that attitude, you are not worthy to talk to.
Be with peace..
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
i'm glad that you agree
as long as you believe in magic skymen, you are not worthy
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
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fatihakmese 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk he is a armenian and he doesn't like muslims. If the Turks where christians then there would be another story about his as.s =)
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx I realized that..I explain and i say,mistakes have been made.everyone should be punished. Members of UN have also committed genocides. Only few been punished, yet all try bash Turkey.
Turkey would accept genocide if the views of UN weren't bias.If you are going to charge someone,charge everyone.Turkey was subject to genocide too.
Some people are not looking for explanation and they just want to get their frustration of the Turks.Thats low and sad. Here comes the thumbs downs..
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket there is no facts about the spanish pope saved jews.
There are all facts about turks who saved jews in ww1 and 2
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
he came to our country...
talked sth... sth..sth... nice things... but no reality and sincerity.
dont try to teach us how to act, USA and dont forget, we know who obama is, just another president of an aim that has been the same for centuries.... turkish people know you,american leaders! you'll never deceive us...
bluegrooves 1 year ago
he came to our country...
talked sth... sth..sth... nice things... but no reality and sincerity.
dont try to teach us how to act, USA and dont forget, we know who obama is, just another president of an aim that has been the same for centuries.... turkish people know you,american leaders! you'll never deceive us...
bluegrooves 1 year ago
According to the famous and universally respected historian Will Durant, Muslims committed the worst genocide in history.
Will Durant argued in his 1935 book "The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage" (page 459):
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period."
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
Prof. K.S. Lal, suggests a calculation in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India which estimates that between 1000 AD and 1500 AD the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million. Even those Hindus who converted to Islam were not immune from persecution, which was illustrated by the Muslim Caste System in India as established by Ziauddin al-Barani in the Fatawa-i Jahandari. where they were regarded as "Ajlaf" caste and subjected to severe discrimination by the "Ashraf" castes.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
Aurangzeb, one of the last Muslim emperors had 10,000 Hindus massacred everyday for an entire year. He alone was responsible for the massacre of at least 3,650,000 Hindus and destruction of more than 11,000 Hindu temples.
William Durant, author of the "Story of Civilization" has described the Muslim conquests in India as constituting the saddest and goriest chapter in human history. Muslims have destroyed and looted the whole country and have killed countless innocent Hindus in the process.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
The 1st Crusade was launched in 1096. Prior to that, Muslims conquered Syria 635, Palestine 638, Persia 642, Eqypt 642, North Africa 642-698, Kabul 711, the Indus region/Samarkand/Spain 712, Toulouse 721, Kyrgyzstan 751, Armenia 1071. Muslim expansion into Europe was only stopped at Tours in 732 and the gates of Vienna 1683
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
Encyclopedia Britannica informs that in December 1398 AD, Timur Lane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi and after the battle those inhabitants not killed were removed as slaves, while other references say the number of captives butchered by Timur Lane's army was about 100,000. Later on Encyclopedia Britannica mentions that the Mughal emperor Akbar 'ordered the massacre of about 30,000 Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod'.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket What genocide hahaha you must be fooling who is going to believe this book. He is christian and we already saw that EU club backing up Armenia. Any facts?? NO!
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
well we know all about taqiyya and kitman, so believing anything that a muslim says is obviously stupid
the UN has declared it to be genocide - who cares what you think
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
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Russia and Armenia following 1700 old protocol to exterminate all turks. There was no genocide if this protocol is already 200years old and the event started 1915! Armenian scums :) watch the clip how scared russia is for the turks.
/watch?v=X-1FK57LSik
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket Russia and Armenia following 1700 old protocol to exterminate all turks. There was no genocide if this protocol is already 200years old and the event started 1915! Armenian scums :) watch the clip how scared russia is for the turks.
/watch?v=X-1FK57LSik
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
sorry, that didn't make any sense to me
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
Mr Obama, Turkey is NOT part of Europe and Europeans do not want it to be part of Europe.
MrReconquista 1 year ago 2
this speech is sickening.
the founding of the turkish republic is based upon genocide and the systematic erasure of history and the propagation of a new fake history.
disgusting.
gregor22 1 year ago 2
Turkey is NOT an important part of Europe, Mr Obama.
We do not want these aggressive, genocidal, theocratic hate mongers to be part of Europe.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket Aggressive and genocidal ? hahah Yes, yes. They are. Blame it all on them. Whole of Europe attacks Turkey in a purpose to wipe them off the planet, being subject to genocide itself, Turkish are blamed for it. Yep, and you said we are aggressive. I am guessing you are a European? Look at your comment, so peaceful. You have such a superior and an objective point of view. No wonder world is a better place with you people ruling it. 'god bless'
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
how're those armenians?
what about the greeks from thrace?
turkey is no longer secular enough to be admitted to the EU and it doesn't even have the decency to own up to its barbaric actions
the whole of europe attacks turkey to wipe them off the planet????
what an utterly stupid and baseless comment
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket I don't want it to be part of Europe.
If you read the history, you can realize that is exactly what the European powers tried to do. They got what they deserved though. Maybe that is why the Europeans are so angry.
Genocide, casulties, rape basically war crimes. HAPPEN. Turkey is not the only part who has committed this. Neither was Turkey the only country who was subject to those crimes. In war these happens. UGLY but yes it happens. Can we stop blaming one side?
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
good - however, turkish parliament still seeks entry
and if you read history you will know that the ottoman empire tried to invade europe on many occasions
constantinople was once the head of the eastern orthocox church, before invading muslims slaughtered their way across the byzantine countries
yes, war crimes happen, however turkey refuses to recognise the slaughter of 1.5 million armenians and many thousands of greeks - pogroms that even lasted into the 1950's
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
in fact into the 1970's - i forgot about the slaughter in cyprus
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
@ArmorDinnerJacket If you lie please do it on a proper way where there is no evidence. Its working you every replaced the [] with the ones on keyboard?
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
got it now - there is no mention of turks saving jews from the dutch
and it still does not excuse the genocide that has been recognised by the united nations
so if you are going to lie, do it properly
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket Turkey invaded Cyprus because the Turks were getting slaugthered by the Greeks who outnumbers the Island.
Those people are lucky, Turkey didn't invade the whole of Cyprus. We could, but we didn't. We aren't as evil as you might think after all. Try to research both sides of the story.
I have pictures and videos of the killings of Turkish babies and pregnant women. Turkey invaded it after those killings. Why are you so one sided. Oh yeah, Turkey basher is a winner..
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket im not going to talk anymore the truth is on the internet. tallarmeniantale [dot] com [slash] Turks-save-Jews [dot] htm
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx if you think this website is lieng go to this jewish site alfassa[dot]com[slash]no_genocide[dot]html take care =)
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
page has been removed - nothing about jews being saved from the netherlands either
and it does nothing to excuse the genocide or the pogroms
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
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cmuratp 1 year ago
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*my point is that you are wrong..
cmuratp 1 year ago
@cmuratp
one of the most interesting parts of this is the continual denial
self criticism is always difficult for muslims
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket doesn't seem too easy for you guys neither.
so my point is my friend you're in no position to judge anyone..
One needs to look in the mirror itself first.
i'm not denying anything..
you're the one not even commenting on the massacres your people carried out
also how stupid is it to discuss historical events on youtube? blaming ME for things people 100 years ago did..
Would you go to jail if your father killed someone, instead of him??
NO!
so give the turkish ppl some rest
cmuratp 1 year ago
@cmuratp
i am in a position to decide for myself from the evidence presented and from experience
if one needs to look in the mirror first then you will of course acknowledge the turkish slaughter of armenian and greek civilians, won't you? LOL!
the subject here is turkey, we were not discussing any other country
i have not blamed you personally for anything, unless you represent the government of turkey
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket
ok there are many massacres carried out/financed by western countries, but it's down to the governments as you said..
so please blame the government next time instead of saying muslims or turks because then you're not only blaming the government but also the people.. which we really do not deserve as the only muslim nation that has strong ties with nato, un, us, eu and israel..
anyway was a good conv.. have a nice day
cmuratp 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket in ottoman records, there is 150.000 armenians that recorded with tehcir laws (compulsory emigration) but events that occoured with tehcir some records says 300.000 armenians lost their houses (not their lives)...
in treaty of sevres, allied forces (in 1920) told new turkish republic u got to be admit that you've killed 200.000 armenians, than we're gonna admit your revolution...
i've confused. how ppl can told 1million blabla... dead armenians can multiply
fatihakmese 1 year ago
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@ArmorDinnerJacket so again, with all respect, i've a armenian gf, i'm a Yoruk Turk... (which is most barbaric turkic clan in your minds) but we're all sorry about that events in 1915-1919... there are turkish ppl lost their home and lives too. armenians was before that events "our fellowed countrymans"... we're lost our brothers in that events actually...
but plz give a rest. and let this thing to armenians and turks. this is "OUR" problem. not goverments, not yours...
fatihakmese 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket
True,Ottoman Empire like most other big Empires in our World History had expanded its borders by attacking and conquering other countries.When leaving Vienna unlike Napeleon, Ottomans didn't set the city on fire.
Without having to fight to survive, war is mass murder.Any human with the right set of mind would agree to that.
(cont'd)
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
the ottomans were repelled from vienna
and your support or excuses for the deliberate slaughter of women and children is disgusting to say the least
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
@ArmorDinnerJacket
You are not replying to my comments.
Just because they were repelled doesn't mean they can't burn the city when leaving!
Those are not excuses or supports for the killings.You just want a fucking thumbs up from here and there trying to bash me up. All i did say was War is wrong. But Genocide wasn't only done by Turkey. If Turkey is to get charges, so should get all the others.i said wrongdoers should be treated the same way.I didn't say they shouldn't be punished.
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
the UN have labeled turkeys slaughter of armenian civilians as genocide - i don't give a flying fuck what you think it is
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket do you think UN is the boss over the world? Asia and Arabs did not vote. There is no solid proof about this so called genocide..
Second of all the russians started with the Armenians to destroy Turks. i showed you a movie clip you where like "i dont get it" and this event started in 1725 or so that means armenia en Russia is even guilty starting it and then 200 years later trying to blackmail the US and EU.
Third of all, the Armenian president trapped himself in it.
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket Should have know it wasn't worth the energy to try and explain. You are obviously not looking for an explanation. You just want to bash any Turk no matter what they say to you.
I should have known better.
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
@antiviruscocuk
the UN have declared it a genocide - as palestinians keep whining that counter attacks by Israel are genocide, then the slaughter 0f Armenian and Greeks most certainly is.
I agree with the findings of the UN on this and still do not think turkey should be part of Europe as obama thinks for the refusal to admit to barbaric ethnic cleansing against civilians and from my visits there
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket
Prime minister shouldn't accept the word genocide to describe the killings.Greece had mass murdered many Turks too.Nobody seems to question that.I don't hate Greeks,we are humans,mistake is natural.But i just want to say,we should treat the wrongdoers the same way.
Turkish parliament will always seek entry for political reasons, though it will never lead Turkey going into the UN as a permanent member.
(thank you for hearing my words)
antiviruscocuk 1 year ago
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket also the greeks from thrace fleed because their army lost the batte...why is that when people around us fight us and get their ass kicked they cry about genocide??
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
the people of thrace fled because they were being butchered
so why is it that throughout history, muslims have slaughtered millions of people, yet always try to deny it
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket they fled because their Army lost the battle..then they lied and said we threw them into the aegean sea...when in fact they themselves fled on boats..some even took turns swimming
Anatolian90 1 year ago
"Meanwhile, the plan to destroy all Greek property in the city was now fully under way. A hundred gangs of rioters were busy carrying out their terrible task, covering a vast area that stretched from the Bosphorus to the Sea of Marmara. Each gang had a leader who was armed with a list of the houses and shops in his area owned by Greeks. It was an organised tornado of violence which swept away everything in its path. Dozens of Greek citizens and clergymen were beaten up.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
Altogether 73 Greek churches were plundered or burned. Icons, murals and holy chalices of inestimable historic and archaeological value were destroyed. All the city's 26 Greek schools were completely demolished. The Patriarchal School at Fanari, established in 1453, and the Theological School on Halki were subjected to the fury of the rabble in an act of extreme barbarism.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
The Zappeion High School was attacked and the statue of its benefactor, Constantinos Zappas, sent tumbling down the great marble staircase. The mob did not stop at ruining desks, a piano and the school hall but also did immense damage to the murals that decorated the interior walls of the school.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
In all, 4,340 Greek shops and stores were looted and destroyed that night; 2,600 Greek homes were caught in the eye of the storm and submitted to the mob's unprecedented wrath. The offices and printing presses of the city's three big Greek newspapers were literally smashed to pieces.
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
The offices of Olympic Airways, then known as T.A.E., on Cumhuriyet Street in Elmadag were visited twice by the rabble. " Eyewitness testimony by Leonidas Koumakis survivor of the Constantinople Pogrom of September 6, 1955 as documented in his testimonial book
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
@ArmorDinnerJacket dude, where did u get that "Historical Education" bro, in wikipedia? ahahaha... Now, if u think that is a "academical discipline" which is can learn from "college" or somethign, i got to say you "FUCK YOU" and your "IDEA of Civilization"
You're just a Racist... Just like Hitler, Nazis or Mussolini... Go and check them from Wikipedia...
fatihakmese 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket the greeks of Izmir actually burned the city after they fleed because they didnt want it to fall into the hands of Turkish people..and later blamed the Turks for burning it..why would we burn it because for years there were no olives growing there and there starting to just have a olive industry now...
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
makes no difference who burned it - it was still a bunch of muslims slaughtering people, as they usually do
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket lmao your prejiduce against muslims is the cause of your total ignorance on history..
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
on the contrary, my study and knowledge of history is the cause of my prejudice against islam
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 4
@ArmorDinnerJacket lmao i dont know who gives you thumbs up.. prejiduce people are never good people..you sir are a racist...i will not argue with a racist who just makes false accusations against a group of people and beleives bad stuff about them instantly...dont even lie about your research because if you really did do research you wouldnt be so biased
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
and you sir are an idiot - which "race" am i discriminating against, pray tell?
as far as i am aware, islam is not a race, it is a religious ideology - prejudice against an ideology is in no way "racism"
and what false accusations?
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket lmao your on arguments are racist...you may not admit it...but you claim that Turks are bad people because you think bad stuff happened in history...which did on both sides..so i dont think only Turks should be blamed as you do, and I dont think the events in 1915 should be used today for political gains and power
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
which race are my arguments discriminating against?
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
fuck u obama, fuck u turkey...
ataturk was just a motherfucker who killed tonns of armenian. is that something to be proud of...
fuck the american terrorist goverment and the turkish terrorist goverment.
GutiumKurd 1 year ago
Erdogan is a Superiour leader. Do not underestimate him. You wont win! i also voted for AKP because he is eliminating the spies from 1920+ the general has brought to court. He wanted to terrorize Turkey and Blame it on AKP!
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
stop talking shit, Erdogan and co. are religious pieces of fundamentalist shit.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
"take over the world", YOU are the one that sounds like a brainwashed Internet fanatic.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
erdogan is an islamist
monotheism and totalitarianism will fail
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
I saw these statistics and it said that before Bush came into office about 52% of the Turkish population liked the US and thought that it'd be a nice place to live.
Today, it's (according to that chart) dropped down to 12%. I think, destroying the image of the US is one of the worst things Bush did to the US.
Though, I'm one of those 12% lol. Every country has a fucked up leader every once in a while. Can't help it.
Rimdeker 2 years ago
I am sure many of the people in %88 half aprove and admire US democracy, and freedom.
I am in %88 part, I wouln't like to be discriminated by the people when I expressed my religion and etnicity.
tolgaoztemur 2 years ago
I like his speech and I wished all Turks would appreciate the democratic and secular system of the Turkish Republic as it's struggling to survive between extreme kemalists and fundamental islamists.
We have managed to create an extraordinary state. One of the earliest nations to allow women to vote, to have actualy equality and a national bond holding us together.
Unfortunately, it's crumbling... I hope these harsh times will be over soon.
Rimdeker 2 years ago
Turkish democracy and secularism is not under danger. It is fight which is result of mistrust between muslim democrats(not islamist) and hard seculars.
No step taken back in the term of democratic and secular system. I think we should be accustomed to the idea of Muslim democratic parties as Christian democratic parties exist in EU.
tolgaoztemur 2 years ago
Gosh, do you even know how much of an islamist the head of gov, Erdogan, is?
Our country is fucked up like China after the communists had taken over, and I'm not making this up... I used to love my hometown, Kadiköy, Istanbul, but now there's mosques with speakers everyhwhere..
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
What do you think would be, a taleban like revolution. Thats indeed ridiculous.
I don't trust Erdoğan too, but I know their faith and religion is money. They have attemp in order to islamize the society. To increase their market.
Islamic revolution sound exegreation. It is Turkey. not old times Iran or Afghanistan.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
I recant my words,
Turkey have never been democratic secular country, with their discrimination on minorities on religions and cultural matters.
Dependent Justice sytem,
%10 vote barrier.
Ban on headscharf,
Coups,
Parlementer culture.
There is example of antidemocracy any single day, that you can see on TV news.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
You say this country is not democratic, yet the leader would be?
That is pathetic, you're probably just come CIA agent promoting this shitty gov.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
What is irony is:
The guy you called Islamist seem more democratic than any other, Devlet bahçeli, Deniz Baykal.
Erdoğan is angle like, perfectly democratic compared to them.
I am confused shall i laugh or shall I cray for my country?
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
what the shit are you talkin about?
Erdogan does not care for this country, he eliminated many of his political enemires, weakened the military, even called some of our high leading judges "terrorists".
He "seems" democratic, while he does not give a shit about the workers of this country. All he cares about is money. And you know it.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
I know it, I didn't say he was a democrat,
I said he was angle like and democrat -compared- to others faschist MHP, antidemocratic CHP.
There is no democrat party in the parlement!
Are there?
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
..do you actually know turkish politics, or did you just read some wikipedia articles?
Because Erdogan's the one who ordered the gov to wiretap the parliment, the AKP ordered to put listening device on TVs sold to many people, both rich and poor.
CHP has always been more democratic then any other parties, and even during the one-party-rule during Atatürk's lifetime they had not been such fashists like AKP and other religious parites. I agree on the MHP part, though.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
If there would be tiny bit of democrats, they would make a single step on our widely known democratic problem.
Don't you know the problems of Turkey? You probably do it too.
who want to solve it?
Can you see any democrat in the parlement?
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
what makes you think CHP is nationalist anyway?
CHP is more left then right, well not too left, but social democratic.
The problem is that there are too many parties to vote for during the elections.
I know that these people in the parlement would rather want to restore Turkey and not destroy it and sell everything that made this country great!
These people in the gov are fashists, and of course there's only one group of people to blame for: the ones who voted for this party. What a shame.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
I haven't said CHP was faschist, It was for MHP.
These guys on the parlement make no any single step for more democratic Turkey, including AKP.
No one is blind. Every body know the problem of Turkey in democratic developments.
Legal system has always been under control of the govs.
Party leaders are tyrans, they control who we are to vote, yet we decide what ever it means.
%10 barrier. All of them care for how to stole from us.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
By the look at granting cultural right to the Kurdish, which I support as a Turk, and improvement of Turkish Armenians relations, I can't see faschist side of this government. They can't act like faschist because they need vote of Kurdish.
They are islamist supporter of radical sharia law which is like Nazism, do not tolerate different opinions.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
There are shame for people who vote to AKP, they also did it for their sound economic program. not for being religious or they support Islamism. It is the fact. Even the Erdoğan hisshelf lieing about he was a perfect supporter of Atatürk on any occasion.
Shall I say ye what, I would feel shamed if I voted CHP or MHP and any other actual party as well.
Atatürks dream will come one day ! Our democracy will be envied.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
well I do support Atatürks dream, but a major revamp of Turkish politics is indeed necassary.
However, if there's no good gov at all, should the military take action, then? I don't think that's such a good idea, after 4 Coup d'état that happened so far..
And one more thing: There's no really culture that the Kurdish have that would be worth defending or granting, let's be honest.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
I can't even imagine another coups as well today, as it did in 1960 and 1980, that was that times, today it is possible interventions to the politic as it did in the election of Güls for the presidency. There could have been such if they follow their atack to the organs of the state.
There is no considerable demand for coups, and need and reasons.
We will improve our democracy thanks to the threads! This mainlaw doesn't meet our demand, no one is satisfied.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
They have a culture, I may like or dislike listening their musics. Personally I don't like Kurdish music. They have feodal and economic problems, which is a problem we all have to pay for. It also destroy Turkeys image.
But the fact is those people have rooth one of the oldest civilization on the earth. They are ignored undeveloped.
My say is: let them live and produce their culture and develope, lets see kurdish books, novels in the book stores. as well as any book of any anatolian etnicity.
tolgaoztemur 1 year ago
hm, well I'd be fine with that, if only many Kurdish citizens would not further develop their "relations" with the terrorist organisation, PKK.
The problem is that the gov is mostly supressing the Kurdish, and rather "opening" our country to the Armenians, which would be fine, if most of the Armenian population was not after destroying our country, and that is one truth that may not be hidden.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
what the fuck u talking about? not allowed to speak kurdish in turkey. and how are we gonna forget what u did to kurds?
fuck u turks
GutiumKurd 1 year ago
@AttitudeGamesGod yea i know...why the hell should we open our borders to Armenia?? when they want land from us and is massacring azeri's...also accusing us for doing genocide!!
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
you did "do genocide"
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
@ArmorDinnerJacket no we DID NOT stop trying to make the world accept your false accusations for your political reasons, just because Armeiansrebels got their ass kicked along side the russian forces in WW1...and just because the map of Armenia today is not the same map Armenians drew a century ago as "Armenian homeland"
Anatolian90 1 year ago
@Anatolian90
1.5million armenian men, women and children rebels........
yeah, right
and the thracian genocide never happened either, did it
muslims always make excuses for their barbarity
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
@ArmorDinnerJacket first of all who said it was 1.5 million..i'm actually hearing that it raised to 2 million now..and anyways Armenian rebels were stockpiling weapons waiting for the war to break out so they can revolt but however before the war they carried out many massacres and provoke many conflicts and later the west claimed it was the Armenians who were victims..
Anatolian90 1 year ago
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
what the hell, are you another islamic ass here?!
Anyone saying Atatürk was a traitor cannot be called a Turk. You know who the real traitor was? Ismet Inönü.
And what with this Jew hate? I don't like them either, but hell, you act like Ahmadinejad sent you personally to blow yourself up.
I'm sick of fundamentalist dirt, Turkey needs to recieve an religious cleaning.
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
what are you walking about? He was the one who build up this nation, he was the one who lead us in the independence war!
Read some books instead of believing some internet propaganda, damn it!
AttitudeGamesGod 1 year ago
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
fantasy indeed
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 2
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
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xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
yeah - keep it up - europe does not want turkey in the EU
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
Yes Turkey will not join the EU, they are creating a Turkish Islamic Union. Eu is getting weakend look at greece soon other countries will collapse. And they will not have any choice to join the Turkish Islamic union. And The Turks will accept them with open arms.
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
better brush up on that technology and productivity then
Dr. Farukh Saleem, UMT Lahore:
The combined annual GDP of the 57 OIC countries is under $2 Trillion, America by herself produces goods and services worth $12Trillion, China $8 Trillion, Japan $3.8 Trillion...(purchasing power parity basis)...Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait collectively produce mostly oil worth $500 billion...Muslim GDP is declining...
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago 3
@ArmorDinnerJacket hey dude this is not America, China, Japan etc they are not in EU...
Eu wasn't build in 10years it took 50years or so to realise the project and make it official. We have seen that Greece is falling apart soon more will follow..
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
you are too stupid to see the point
all of the muslim countries combined have a GDP that is less than japan
good luck with the alliance
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket You might be to dumb to compare people or countres.. The EU grow because they worked together.
xFantasyartx 1 year ago
@xFantasyartx
you might be dumb to come out with such garbage
ArmorDinnerJacket 1 year ago
@ArmorDinnerJacket Most of the Turkic countries never had ties with people. Japan had no problem with any country. US and EU supressed middle east and asia thats why countries can not grow. You must look at the history france, netherlands, armenia, russia, germany, usa, england, spain, italy they all commited genocide to another country. And now they say terrorists occupy there countries..
xFantasyartx 1 year ago