This isnt some minor thing. Firefighters save lives. The more knowledgeable they are, the better. I want the best of the best trying to save me, idc what color they are. Besides, they'll all look yellow anyway!
Just another reason we the people should make those assholes in DC to get rid of affirmative action. That is if we the people want = rights for all not just "minority" types. This has always been a load of bullshit!
That would be cool if she was against hiring black people. Then she would have never got a job on the supreme court. She judges others by the color of their skin. She is the poster child of racism and is entirely unfit for being a Supreme Court Justice. Our government is thoroughly backwards. Just like how it rewards people who bought homes they couldn't afford and the greedy and reckless CEO's that lended more than they could afford.
In 2003 the New Haven Fire Department administered promotional exams for Captain and Lieutenant.
The city paid $100,000 to a high stakes diversity testing firm, IO Solutions, Inc. of Illinois, to design the exams to be completely free of any racial bias. This is necessary to avoid charges of disparate impact upon protected minority groups.
IO Solutions, Inc. is one of a few dozen firms which specializes in politically correct test design.
"The facts suggest that the New Haven test was legitimate. Those who developed it consulted with a variety of experts and took care to avoid common pitfalls. The questions were job related and consistent with business necessity. In fact, it is noteworthy that there was no criticism or even questioning of the exam until after the results were announced."
Can i speak as an African American man. The white firefighters should not have been denied their promotions on the fact that "minorities" scored less. Standards should NEVER be sacrificed. Instead go to the root of the problem which is our education system in high minority populated neighborhoods. Lets help our latino and black brothers and sisters get better instead of knocking them down. And lets not knock down those who achieve the standard regardless of race.
2010; When I first heard this story, I was outraged. Seriously. I am white and have witnessed reverse discrimination for so long, sometimes, I find it difficult not to judge by race. However, I agree with half of your sentiment. We should go to the root of the problem and reward based on individual merit rather than racial entitlements. When you speak of the educational system, you fail to recognize that whites also live in these neighborhoods.
but those of color are so often rewarded 'entitlements' that many of them have come to expect freebies- based on their race. I've heard the oppressed race rhetoric and agree that at one time, much of it was true, but not in today's world. No matter the ethnic group you belong to, each has it's challenges to offer it's individual members.
Goes to show Quota is the only way blacks can get a job.
FireFighting is not the same as clerk at McDonalds. That's the mentality trying to pass off as intelligent. Stats from Ocean to Ocean proven Quota is a total FAILURE. That's like Giving JESSE JACKSON the PRESIDENCY. Cause he's to stupid
cleveland ohio is one of the most reverse discriminating cities there is when it comes to hiring whites giving loans to i know because i was denied a loan because im a white male and that was back in the eighties.
I hope affirmative action does end. I am glad the S.C. ruled the way they did on this case. Nothing against those who are considered minorities but it takes away the sense of competition and hiring the best applicant and having to hire someone strictly because of color or race.
Affirmative action in the US began as a tool to address the persisting inequalities for African Americans in the 1960s. This specific term was first used to describe US government policy in 1961. Directed to all government contracting agencies, President Kennedy's Executive Order 10925 mandated "affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin."
wait... just because minorities did not score high enough on the test... the whole test result will be thrown away? That is ridiculous... they shouldn't be responsible for thier failure
i am a conservative and a republican. i dont honestly think any viciousness was intended (although the possibility of my being wrong is ever present). I do think that when the decision to prevent the white firefighters from getting the job simply because they were born white it really leaves alot to be questioned: what kind of person makes a decision based on avoiding a lawsuit instead of finding the most qualified candidate for a job?
This is one big reason never to vote Democrat. First the scum at the city that said the people who passed couldn't be promoted because they were only white and hispanic, and secondly the judges they appoint like Sotomayor and the SC liberals who all 4 of voted against overturning this. If one race doesn't pass a test, that is not a basis at all for throwing out the people's results who did. That is racism. Other blacks in US could have passed, these didn't, too bad. Keep the results.
Do you realize that Sotomayor's decision was racially discriminatory and judged WRONG by the US Supreme Court ?
FROM WCBS-TV New York 6-29-09:
"The city said it acted to avoid a lawsuit from minorities, but Justice Anthony Kennedy said in his majority opinion that New Haven's action amounted to discrimination based on race against the white firefighters who were likely to be promoted.
"No individual should face workplace discrimination based on race," Kennedy said.
It's a shame to see that affirmative action has plagued America to the extent that meritocracy is completely destroyed. Shame on Sotomayor and her decision.
it pains me to agree only b/c it seems everyone else who does, likes to boot their comments with ignorant shit.
I think this judge is questionable at best, i think her decision was wrong and biased, and i think reverse discrimination does exist
but then you have idiots who can't help but continue the bullshit, and attack the political parties, say racist shit, or just turn around and start accusing minorities of everything white people were accused of..wish real conversations could be had.
more false hatred of whites. it's funny how they always claim whites are racist right off but much racism is encouraged by various non-white groups. it's clear they can't compete with us on a fair playing field.
Welcome to Obamaworld: Tax evaders appointed to run that department; federally funded healthcare (because Medicaid/Medical) hasn't given away enough tax dollars; pay "czars" (czars, mind you); and tax increase proposals for those who make less than $250K - in direct opposition to that person's promise. Now, we get a racist, liberal judge for her entire stinking lifetime.
But, Kudo's to those on the Supreme Court who overturned this woman's horrible decision!
I don't think it started just on race alone, but because of her "wise latina woman" remark. Quite frankly, I don't care about race, I just want someone uncorrupted, and who does the job the way it's supposed to be done.
Isn't it great? The Supreme Court agreed with Rush that Sotomayor is a reverse racist! Stuff that in your pipes & smoke it libtards & racist minorities!
A great day for America. The first one since BO took office!
This isnt some minor thing. Firefighters save lives. The more knowledgeable they are, the better. I want the best of the best trying to save me, idc what color they are. Besides, they'll all look yellow anyway!
Erika445566 1 year ago
I bet the Democrats' heads exploded when those firefighters finally got promoted.
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
Just another reason we the people should make those assholes in DC to get rid of affirmative action. That is if we the people want = rights for all not just "minority" types. This has always been a load of bullshit!
kd5icr1967 2 years ago 4
I tried to get a firefighter job in Mexico, and own land. They said no "your not Mexican."
Verlch 2 years ago 2
That would be cool if she was against hiring black people. Then she would have never got a job on the supreme court. She judges others by the color of their skin. She is the poster child of racism and is entirely unfit for being a Supreme Court Justice. Our government is thoroughly backwards. Just like how it rewards people who bought homes they couldn't afford and the greedy and reckless CEO's that lended more than they could afford.
bb714 2 years ago 6
Does anyone know what type of test this was? I mean what was in it that was unfair? What type of questions?
letsheet 2 years ago
In 2003 the New Haven Fire Department administered promotional exams for Captain and Lieutenant.
The city paid $100,000 to a high stakes diversity testing firm, IO Solutions, Inc. of Illinois, to design the exams to be completely free of any racial bias. This is necessary to avoid charges of disparate impact upon protected minority groups.
IO Solutions, Inc. is one of a few dozen firms which specializes in politically correct test design.
The NHFF tests were 40% oral, 60% written.
bctvguy 2 years ago
@bctvguy good video man. I'm a firefighter and this decision was so disgusting. Thanks for bringing attention to this.
murphy3434 2 years ago
FROM THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE:
"The facts suggest that the New Haven test was legitimate. Those who developed it consulted with a variety of experts and took care to avoid common pitfalls. The questions were job related and consistent with business necessity. In fact, it is noteworthy that there was no criticism or even questioning of the exam until after the results were announced."
Published in the New York Times 7-1-2009
bctvguy 2 years ago
I was more like 99% that voted for him
letsheet 2 years ago
Can i speak as an African American man. The white firefighters should not have been denied their promotions on the fact that "minorities" scored less. Standards should NEVER be sacrificed. Instead go to the root of the problem which is our education system in high minority populated neighborhoods. Lets help our latino and black brothers and sisters get better instead of knocking them down. And lets not knock down those who achieve the standard regardless of race.
spokesman2010 2 years ago 8
How about the fact that nearly 4 out of 5 black kids are born to an unmarried mother? Too many grow up in homes where no value is placed on education.
Hisapnic illegitimacy is high and white illegitimacy rates are rising.
More money per child is spent today on education than ever before yet graduation rates are falling - even in good neighborhoods.
bctvguy 2 years ago
2010; When I first heard this story, I was outraged. Seriously. I am white and have witnessed reverse discrimination for so long, sometimes, I find it difficult not to judge by race. However, I agree with half of your sentiment. We should go to the root of the problem and reward based on individual merit rather than racial entitlements. When you speak of the educational system, you fail to recognize that whites also live in these neighborhoods.
f8fulencounterICN2U 2 years ago 2
but those of color are so often rewarded 'entitlements' that many of them have come to expect freebies- based on their race. I've heard the oppressed race rhetoric and agree that at one time, much of it was true, but not in today's world. No matter the ethnic group you belong to, each has it's challenges to offer it's individual members.
f8fulencounterICN2U 2 years ago
@spokesman2010 I totally agree
UFCMania98 1 year ago
Goes to show Quota is the only way blacks can get a job.
FireFighting is not the same as clerk at McDonalds. That's the mentality trying to pass off as intelligent. Stats from Ocean to Ocean proven Quota is a total FAILURE. That's like Giving JESSE JACKSON the PRESIDENCY. Cause he's to stupid
mastior 2 years ago 5
SOTOMAYZOR, She is RACITST, quota, affirmative action.
She's hates white men. The first words from her mouth was she can do better than a white man. HEY that's HATE...
She has 100's of laws memorized, she' knows everything she says.
mastior 2 years ago 4
She hates men period.
letsheet 2 years ago
I'm gonna stop looking at stuff like this. It just makes me angry.
TheHeap2 2 years ago 2
cleveland ohio is one of the most reverse discriminating cities there is when it comes to hiring whites giving loans to i know because i was denied a loan because im a white male and that was back in the eighties.
nuttybar9 2 years ago
I hope affirmative action does end. I am glad the S.C. ruled the way they did on this case. Nothing against those who are considered minorities but it takes away the sense of competition and hiring the best applicant and having to hire someone strictly because of color or race.
Liquidice07 2 years ago 5
THE FACT:
Affirmative action in the US began as a tool to address the persisting inequalities for African Americans in the 1960s. This specific term was first used to describe US government policy in 1961. Directed to all government contracting agencies, President Kennedy's Executive Order 10925 mandated "affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin."
bctvguy 2 years ago
wait... just because minorities did not score high enough on the test... the whole test result will be thrown away? That is ridiculous... they shouldn't be responsible for thier failure
Toanly1990 2 years ago 5
i am a conservative and a republican. i dont honestly think any viciousness was intended (although the possibility of my being wrong is ever present). I do think that when the decision to prevent the white firefighters from getting the job simply because they were born white it really leaves alot to be questioned: what kind of person makes a decision based on avoiding a lawsuit instead of finding the most qualified candidate for a job?
Tommy1977777 2 years ago
Another racist person that works for the United States Government!!
Face it whites are hated in the USA and no longer have any rights!
lestersggirl 2 years ago
i dont support sotomayor , shes a racist
chance823232 2 years ago 3
This is one big reason never to vote Democrat. First the scum at the city that said the people who passed couldn't be promoted because they were only white and hispanic, and secondly the judges they appoint like Sotomayor and the SC liberals who all 4 of voted against overturning this. If one race doesn't pass a test, that is not a basis at all for throwing out the people's results who did. That is racism. Other blacks in US could have passed, these didn't, too bad. Keep the results.
RuflessRecords 2 years ago
she a rasict
war1231 2 years ago 3
Do you guys understand that all she did was uphold the laws of the city, and that she did not make said laws?
Nikkia05 2 years ago
Do you realize that Sotomayor's decision was racially discriminatory and judged WRONG by the US Supreme Court ?
FROM WCBS-TV New York 6-29-09:
"The city said it acted to avoid a lawsuit from minorities, but Justice Anthony Kennedy said in his majority opinion that New Haven's action amounted to discrimination based on race against the white firefighters who were likely to be promoted.
"No individual should face workplace discrimination based on race," Kennedy said.
bctvguy 2 years ago
The supreme court overruled it... her ruling was obviously not soundly based, at least to the standard of the court she is trying to arrive at.
dls23167 2 years ago
It's a shame to see that affirmative action has plagued America to the extent that meritocracy is completely destroyed. Shame on Sotomayor and her decision.
patrick112590 2 years ago 5
it pains me to agree only b/c it seems everyone else who does, likes to boot their comments with ignorant shit.
I think this judge is questionable at best, i think her decision was wrong and biased, and i think reverse discrimination does exist
but then you have idiots who can't help but continue the bullshit, and attack the political parties, say racist shit, or just turn around and start accusing minorities of everything white people were accused of..wish real conversations could be had.
FLPman 2 years ago 5
more false hatred of whites. it's funny how they always claim whites are racist right off but much racism is encouraged by various non-white groups. it's clear they can't compete with us on a fair playing field.
satanic6ritual 2 years ago 9
Welcome to Obamaworld: Tax evaders appointed to run that department; federally funded healthcare (because Medicaid/Medical) hasn't given away enough tax dollars; pay "czars" (czars, mind you); and tax increase proposals for those who make less than $250K - in direct opposition to that person's promise. Now, we get a racist, liberal judge for her entire stinking lifetime.
But, Kudo's to those on the Supreme Court who overturned this woman's horrible decision!
arslp 2 years ago 5
Who gives a damn about race if they can do the job! This whole affirmative action policy has been more trouble than what it is worth.
evilclown9911 2 years ago 12
I don't think it started just on race alone, but because of her "wise latina woman" remark. Quite frankly, I don't care about race, I just want someone uncorrupted, and who does the job the way it's supposed to be done.
glaceauu 2 years ago 6
Isn't it great? The Supreme Court agreed with Rush that Sotomayor is a reverse racist! Stuff that in your pipes & smoke it libtards & racist minorities!
A great day for America. The first one since BO took office!
flyboymd82 2 years ago 12
Wasn't the firefighter dyslexic and therefore he's considered disabled, why shouldn't the LD community fight for their rights?
TheOtherView 2 years ago
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
I am so happy on the Supreme Court's ruling in this case. They studied and passed the test. They should be rewared.
dropthepucknow 2 years ago 7
Sotomayor's ruling against the white firefighters was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court on 6-29-2009.
Sotomayor's ruling was racist and it was wrong.
She is a horrible choice for an SC justice.
bctvguy 2 years ago
I agree
MHayes85 2 years ago 3
Whites have been discriminated against in america as the rule for years now. Whites deserve reparations for the discrimination they have endured.
meesterperfect 2 years ago 13
If this piece of garbage ever gets close to the supreme court, americans need to riot
meesterperfect 2 years ago 3
If Sotomayor was in charge of baseball, the strike zone would be adjusted with every pitch, to make it "fair" for less able hitters.
logansGT 2 years ago 18