I think it depends on the girl. Does she lead with her brains or her body? Also insecurity, what type of men she hangs out with, etc. I'm a girl, if you couldn't tell, and I really don't get along with other females (yeah, lots of girls say that but my favorite hobbies include video games and eating). xD I believe everyone deserves to earn respect, male or female. And I have a hard time trusting men in general. I get to know people first, if they seem like they just want ass . Bye, bye.
If a guy wants a ditch pig, there are plenty of them here on YouTube just waiting for them. If a man wants a lady then he's going to have to want her entire being.
dude ive been saying this for a long time but you stated it perfectly, yeah you want to fuck pretty but 8 out of 10 girls are boring and have no content.
I disagree with you when you say few guys have respect for women. I think guys, even guys my age (freshmen in college) respect girls or women who demand respect from them.
I draw my conclusions from my experience in college so far. I go to a women's college partnered with an ivy league university. The stereotype seems to be that we're easy and desperate and will fuck just about any guy from the school.
(cont.) The sad thing is, most of the time this is true. But I've met lots of guys in my classes and have hung out with them and I've noticed that guys categorize girls in two ways. As much as this is a fault of mine, I am extremely confident in my academic and intellectual abilities; to the point really that I have a hard time meeting men I feel are at my level (or higher). I find that guys really respect this and are even intimidated by this.
@Finiras I don't understand how my comment would project any insecurity about my intelligence. I don't quite understand what the nothing wrong with being 'easy' pertains to either.
I actually do that consciously sometimes. I treat girls that I don't respect like puppies with the expectation that they should get offended and tell me to fuck off, but usually they don't. It's like doing a lousy job on purpose, because you hate your workplace and you don't care if you would get fired anyway.
On the other side, the women that do earn my respect, I take very seriously, and I treat them like individuals, instead of perceiving them as humanoid cats.
i'm actually a bit surprised by the strong terms in which you talk. I think gender stereotypes are a lot worse there across the pond (obviously they're almost universal here, too, but still).
Why do anarchist men go specifically for anarchist women (not any old women) if not for intellectual reasons?
Idk, unfortently Aaron I would not say that you are off on this. I would say that most guys think of girls like this, and that most girls think that most guys honestly like them. This is very sad, and for some reason we have this idea or belief grounded in our heads that girls can give guys approval and guys can give girls approval. However I think the only thing we can do is find people that are not like this, and do our best not to get romantically involved with people like this.
yeah your right but i dont think there is anything wrong with that....its natural for guys to be sexually attracted to girls.....people are forgetting that we are animals, its in our dna to be sexually attracted to girls, this does not mean you cant respect a women, as well as be sexually attracted to her....i mean i've never had an ugly female friend and that is probably the main reason for that...call me a dick but thats how it is
yeah its kinda hilarious how every girl is in denial about this. arguing with them over this is futile.
but you act like women should get respect for just being women, while because of this, women dont have to actually act respectful to get respect. bad idea. and a stupid double standard.
Oh geez this is a good topic. I see this bullcrap all the time with my little cousins. They teach the boys to be men on the prowl, they teach the girls to be submissive and NEVER think about being with a boy. Now most families will do such a thing more or less and how it is enforced is different but this is how it is. I do meet more respectable men than woman and I do not say that with any hint of sexism.
i didn't create it for the sole purpose of responding to this video. i have a million other accounts. this just happens to be the first video that i watched after making this account. i always have something obnoxious to say. always.
Are you a women, then Yes, I would most definitely Like your approval. Na, I'd rather get disapproval, ha, "Give me something to hate" ~Nathan Explosion. A little Ego boost every now and then can do wonders. haha
still, you've likely deluded yourself into thinking that you have quite a few genuine male friends, unless you're not attractive and they're not trying at all.
You are placing great value on "What people bring to the conversation." Not everyone values and desires to pursue intellectual things, some people would prefer to bask in love and beauty.
I don't think you are placing enough emphasis on man's desire to simply be close to and experience beauty.
I value girls as people but it seems through my own personal experiences that some don't seem to really care much over human intellectuality. They would rather have the guy who shops at Hollister, drinks organic soda water, gets intoxicated almost every weekend, and shows no signs of human weakness. So that's probably why 99% of my friends are males. I guess not many girls truly care much about guys who are smart and have no self esteem or who view the world differently.
I disagree. Women want men with weakness, the same or similar weakness to their own. Your strengths and weakness are different.
The good news is that women are primarily interested in men with status while men are primarily interested in women who are beautiful. As we age, your status will improve and their looks will fade. Time is on your side.
I can see what you're getting at. I was basically basing it off my own personal experience I've had with women a long time ago and I always thought the complete opposite on how women want this in a guy, women view weakness as a flaw, any guy who is shy or unique in some way has very little chance at any sort of relationship of the opposite sex. Overall I understand what you're saying and I have yet to meet a girl like that.
Because you can rarely know with certainty what someone's aim really is until you interact with them for some time and apply some critical thinking to the issue. People are often deceptive or have multiple motives.
hypothetically I may be interested in what you have to say anyway, but more interested because you are an attractive woman. If what you say is true, then I have an incentive to lie about that because I don't want you to be disinterested in talking with me.
Mostly agreed. I personally wouldn't mind and would have a weird sense of respect myself if I was a girl and a guy came up to me and asked "hey, I find you hot. Wanna fuck?".
Hey, at least this theoretical man is being honest.... with both of us. :9
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You boys are so young and naive. You may want to expect more from your mate, but if you expect more from women in general you will surely be very disappointed.
you seem to think that because something is sexist, it can't be true. so you give women credit just for being women, not for what they can do. seems pretty disrespectful according to what you just said?
"Something meaningful" is a pretty subjective phrase. Pussy, for example, can be pretty meaningful to a dude in a dry spell.
But that's no reason to look down on someone. Without the drive to fuck, our species wouldn't exist, so in a way, fucking could be said to be the MOST meaningful thing to 'humanity'.
Chris Rock- "Men don't have platonic friends. We just have women we haven't fucked yet. 'As soon as I figure this out, Im in there!' I mean we got some platonic friends, we all do. I mean I got some platonic friends, but they are all by accident. Every platonic friend I got was some woman I was trying to fuck, I made a wrong turn somewhere, and ended up in the friend zone."
great video. I think you are right. A lot of libertarian men seem to almost fertilize libertarian women. I never realized how messed up that was until now. I think it stems from insecurity, and then attaining some sort of female approval by proxy of sharing the same geeky interests. Does that sound right? Since the libertarian movement at least seems to be getting more gender diversified, I think it is a good time to examine how we do and should interact with each other as libertarians.
Question: You mentioned that many of the guys you hang out with are as you say, "sexist". My question is how can you logically be friends with people who you believe to not respect women as people and claim to respect women as people? Or is "sexism" not too bad of a thing to have?
Guys marry for bad reasons. When it comes to women, we have less judgment than bugs in a moonshine bottle. Guys marry charm. They marry a sweet smile, a perky toss of the chin. They marry clear skin and bright eyes, soft lips, warm hands. Men marry necking on back roads with crickets creaking in the woods and warm breezes and Sally is just so unspeakably wonderful they can't do without her. Men marry illusion. Sally marries a pre-med.We males have an infinite capacity for deluding ourselves.
If the women was smart, she's marry a doctor, not a premed. Men marry women hoping they will never change. Women marry men hoping they will change. Men don't change and women always do.
Marriage is worthless and meaningless now anyway. It has been since it ceased to be an enforcible contract. .
No, I just disagree. We males have an almost infinite capacity to delude ourselves. Women have more of a capacity and a propensity than we.
Men are rarely objective. Women are almost never objective. One of the smartest women ever, Marie Curie died of radiation poisoning when she knew better than anyone else on earth how dangerous it was and forced her lab workers to take precautions that she neglected.
If girls weren't so fucking retarded, I would be able to respect them.
Most girls are puppies. But RARELY a smart one will come along who I respect. I think I've met only 2 or 3 girls in my life who are actually intelligent.
I'm now interested in your definition of smart. Because I meet men all the time who don't care about anything substantial, only care about stuff like american idol and wearing baggy clothing, and have no problems being "puppies" who do bad things for bad people. Note my intentional ambiguity in that last sentence in a bad attempt to avoid a red herring while proving a point.
In short, I'm with Swordsage; *humans* just suck, no matter the gender.
I have no problem conceding that Rose is Awesome. I think you're a pretty good judge of character, so it's highly probable. The face that she's your girlfriend proves my point. You recognize as much as I do how rare those qualities are in a woman.
Let''s use Rose for an example. She's pretty, but we are not supposed to care about that. She's also smart and (from what I can tell) cool...FOR A GIRL. Don't get me wrong- that makes her much more tolerable to be around I'm sure, but more tolerable that whom? OTHER GIRLS.
She is also vastly smarter than other guys. She is pretty, and that is pleasing to the eyes, but I didn't start talking to her because she is pretty. She has a ton of amazing qualities. She is a billion times more awesome company than most guys, and not because she is a girl and has girly parts. Do you see that you are exactly doing what i talk about? You can't think of a girl is awesome as a person
I can think a girl is awesome as a person. it's just extremely rare. Imagine there's a bell curve of awesome men with the horizontal axis being how awesome they are. The bell curve for women would be similar only less flat and moved two orders of magnitude to the left.
i am not going to disagree. I do think thereare biological things that make it so boys and girls are different. However, what i percieve to the biological differences I have no problems with, and even appriciate. I think that guys who have no value for girls but as puppies often become fathers and raise girls who are nothing better than just puppies. Girls can be intellegent, virtuous, and awesome all around, but as long as people only hope for puppies in girls. This is what we'll get.
Ah, well not we're on to a subject I can speak on with some authority. What women are naturally very good at is getting what they want.. What they are very bad at and what I have a responsibility to teach my daughter is to discover what is is what they really want. There is a reason why Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan are so miserable.
Well ... All people naturally want what they want and work for that. However, for all people, what they want is often distorted by being fed a lot of bad information. So to me, the same exact thing can be said of men. I do think it is likely that women are fed worse information than men, but the same principals apply to both genders
Why would it be do you think that women would be fed more bad information? It's because they reward those who lie to them much more than men do. I can't even count the times I have heard a women complain that all the men she dates are liars. ...DUH!!!!
There are plenty of men who will tell her the truth, but she doesn't want to date them. Women are more gullible because they don't have or develop the critical thinking skills as much as men do. There are no female chess champions.
I do hink that girls minds work differently than mens. However, girls tht date liars usually have psychological issues related to this. Bad information. Having a father who doesn't respect you as a person seems to me would cause problems in judging and dating men. I've read plenty of the evolutionary biology suff (including The Bell Curve), and while I agree with many aspects ... I disagree with conclusions some make. A girl who is respected as a child will want to be respected as an adult.
If "all women naturally want what they want and work for that" then why are Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan so miserable? They can get ANYTHING they want.. The answer is obvious. They don't know what they want, they don't know what would make them happy, or they'd get it. They don't think critically or rationally or objectively. They don't look long-term and big picture. In short, they are typical women in extraordinary circumstances.
not to say that I blame men exactly. Men are raised to look at girls as puppies ... and mothers raise people perpetuating this also. So I really don't think the root of this is because of evil men
so you respecting girls means your not trying to get into their pants... heh no, you seem to be in denial there about your real reason for not talking to girls.
Translation: get back into the kitchen and make me a sandwich. But seriously everything you said is true, well put sir.
segiant64 9 months ago
I think it depends on the girl. Does she lead with her brains or her body? Also insecurity, what type of men she hangs out with, etc. I'm a girl, if you couldn't tell, and I really don't get along with other females (yeah, lots of girls say that but my favorite hobbies include video games and eating). xD I believe everyone deserves to earn respect, male or female. And I have a hard time trusting men in general. I get to know people first, if they seem like they just want ass . Bye, bye.
whiteylol1 10 months ago
If a guy wants a ditch pig, there are plenty of them here on YouTube just waiting for them. If a man wants a lady then he's going to have to want her entire being.
DianatheDefender 1 year ago
dude ive been saying this for a long time but you stated it perfectly, yeah you want to fuck pretty but 8 out of 10 girls are boring and have no content.
segiant64 1 year ago
good stuff
CammieSpectrum 1 year ago
caring or in general, psychology, is irrelevent to making babies.
If there was only one man and a woman left on the planet....
TheSophist2007 2 years ago
I think I among that 85-90 percents of men. But I hope I will improve thing and will begin tu value girls... :D
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
women shouldn't be respected just because they're women, but should have to earn respect.
Finiras 2 years ago
There is a lot of reasons for this besides not respecting women.
1: Societies' social pressures of men to become players but chivalrous. because women like this
2. Societies' social pressures of women to become sexy and stupid, and the big one- not promiscuous. because men like this
3. Lack of communication between the sexes, how often does a woman approach a guy and talk about philosophy? not many.
4. Besides their mothers women is the only group of people that care for deep emotion/empathy
UltimateFlow 2 years ago
if they follow your advice there will be a lot of single girls in the world... a lot.
jrnesbit 2 years ago
but about the same amount of single guys
monkeytrouble303 2 years ago 2
I disagree with you when you say few guys have respect for women. I think guys, even guys my age (freshmen in college) respect girls or women who demand respect from them.
I draw my conclusions from my experience in college so far. I go to a women's college partnered with an ivy league university. The stereotype seems to be that we're easy and desperate and will fuck just about any guy from the school.
notaprettygirl000 2 years ago
(cont.) The sad thing is, most of the time this is true. But I've met lots of guys in my classes and have hung out with them and I've noticed that guys categorize girls in two ways. As much as this is a fault of mine, I am extremely confident in my academic and intellectual abilities; to the point really that I have a hard time meeting men I feel are at my level (or higher). I find that guys really respect this and are even intimidated by this.
notaprettygirl000 2 years ago
Guys don't treat me like someone who's just a nice piece of ass because I, myself, don't present myself that way to them.
notaprettygirl000 2 years ago
@notaprettygirl000 sounds more like you're insecure as fuck about your "intellectual abilities"
nothing wrong with being "easy" too heh
Finiras 2 years ago
@Finiras I don't understand how my comment would project any insecurity about my intelligence. I don't quite understand what the nothing wrong with being 'easy' pertains to either.
notaprettygirl000 1 year ago
lol Your intellectual abilities. Wow, you think you're hot shit don't ya hun? It's fun to think like that, but it makes you more lonely inside.
jrnesbit 2 years ago
I actually do that consciously sometimes. I treat girls that I don't respect like puppies with the expectation that they should get offended and tell me to fuck off, but usually they don't. It's like doing a lousy job on purpose, because you hate your workplace and you don't care if you would get fired anyway.
On the other side, the women that do earn my respect, I take very seriously, and I treat them like individuals, instead of perceiving them as humanoid cats.
MindCBase 2 years ago
stereotypes hinder
lisitarainbow 2 years ago
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lisitarainbow 2 years ago
i'm actually a bit surprised by the strong terms in which you talk. I think gender stereotypes are a lot worse there across the pond (obviously they're almost universal here, too, but still).
Why do anarchist men go specifically for anarchist women (not any old women) if not for intellectual reasons?
l1berty53000 2 years ago
Superb vid. Women, it's our fault - not theirs.
l1berty53000 2 years ago
I guess I should be shocked and offended but I couldn't help laughing my ass off.
taliajazel 2 years ago
That happens quite often ... offending people into condescension. It is an easy defense
aaron0883 2 years ago
hahaha no, I was laughing because it's true, and you just said it so nonchalantly.
taliajazel 2 years ago 2
Idk, unfortently Aaron I would not say that you are off on this. I would say that most guys think of girls like this, and that most girls think that most guys honestly like them. This is very sad, and for some reason we have this idea or belief grounded in our heads that girls can give guys approval and guys can give girls approval. However I think the only thing we can do is find people that are not like this, and do our best not to get romantically involved with people like this.
drew335533 2 years ago 3
I would say the root of all jealousy is insecurity. From all of the instances I have seen, it seems like that.
drew335533 2 years ago
yeah your right but i dont think there is anything wrong with that....its natural for guys to be sexually attracted to girls.....people are forgetting that we are animals, its in our dna to be sexually attracted to girls, this does not mean you cant respect a women, as well as be sexually attracted to her....i mean i've never had an ugly female friend and that is probably the main reason for that...call me a dick but thats how it is
faridk89 2 years ago
What dose this say about men? Women shall rule the world lol cos we have nice ass. and will rule the worlddddddddd with nice ass ;0)
DARKNE55ELUDES 2 years ago
yeah its kinda hilarious how every girl is in denial about this. arguing with them over this is futile.
but you act like women should get respect for just being women, while because of this, women dont have to actually act respectful to get respect. bad idea. and a stupid double standard.
Finiras 2 years ago
There must be alot of resentment from guys towards girls. I would hate to be led by a dick...
the7thwreck 2 years ago
true that, but girls are hot.
the7thwreck 2 years ago
Oh geez this is a good topic. I see this bullcrap all the time with my little cousins. They teach the boys to be men on the prowl, they teach the girls to be submissive and NEVER think about being with a boy. Now most families will do such a thing more or less and how it is enforced is different but this is how it is. I do meet more respectable men than woman and I do not say that with any hint of sexism.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago 2
what do you have against human biology?
AbortionOmelette 2 years ago
Aww, According to your profile you just joined today, and this is your first video watched. I must of hurt someones little feelings. How cute!!!
aaron0883 2 years ago
i didn't create it for the sole purpose of responding to this video. i have a million other accounts. this just happens to be the first video that i watched after making this account. i always have something obnoxious to say. always.
AbortionOmelette 2 years ago
But yeah, damn, you're right. Very rarely do i look beyond a girl's vagina.
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
If you do ... and bring a flashlight ... you will find the ovaries
aaron0883 2 years ago
hahaha
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
lol
striker1224 2 years ago
sam tut, i shall never talk to you again lol
DARKNE55ELUDES 2 years ago
Isn't the puppy more the guy than the girl? He's trying to get approval.
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
I think he was trying to say woman are seen as play things, with the puppy analogy.
anonforuz 2 years ago
Are you trying to get my approval here? Is it just cuz I'm pretty?
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
Are you a women, then Yes, I would most definitely Like your approval. Na, I'd rather get disapproval, ha, "Give me something to hate" ~Nathan Explosion. A little Ego boost every now and then can do wonders. haha
anonforuz 2 years ago
and at the end u brought up the good point that people view other people as potential benefits
no sexism involved tho...
freedominsomalia 2 years ago
girls use me to help them with their hmwk
and sometimes they just want to get laid
freedominsomalia 2 years ago
sounds like your a tool that doesn't get laid at all.
Finiras 2 years ago
i got my dick stuck in my bitches all weekend long
freedominsomalia 2 years ago
im a girl.. and i always thought this..
and u have put it in words
ssips720 2 years ago 5
still, you've likely deluded yourself into thinking that you have quite a few genuine male friends, unless you're not attractive and they're not trying at all.
Finiras 2 years ago
you remind me serj tanakian ;p
napierdalacz102 2 years ago 3
You are placing great value on "What people bring to the conversation." Not everyone values and desires to pursue intellectual things, some people would prefer to bask in love and beauty.
I don't think you are placing enough emphasis on man's desire to simply be close to and experience beauty.
baller1069 2 years ago
I value girls as people but it seems through my own personal experiences that some don't seem to really care much over human intellectuality. They would rather have the guy who shops at Hollister, drinks organic soda water, gets intoxicated almost every weekend, and shows no signs of human weakness. So that's probably why 99% of my friends are males. I guess not many girls truly care much about guys who are smart and have no self esteem or who view the world differently.
Kevinge3 2 years ago 2
Women don't know jack about a guy's self-esteem. If sh like's him, he is confident and self-assured. If she doesn't like him, he is conceited.
If she likes a guy with low self-esteem, he's humble If she doesn't like the same guy, he's insecure.
Almost all women, like most men, rationalize rather than reason.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago 3
I disagree. Women want men with weakness, the same or similar weakness to their own. Your strengths and weakness are different.
The good news is that women are primarily interested in men with status while men are primarily interested in women who are beautiful. As we age, your status will improve and their looks will fade. Time is on your side.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
I can see what you're getting at. I was basically basing it off my own personal experience I've had with women a long time ago and I always thought the complete opposite on how women want this in a guy, women view weakness as a flaw, any guy who is shy or unique in some way has very little chance at any sort of relationship of the opposite sex. Overall I understand what you're saying and I have yet to meet a girl like that.
Kevinge3 2 years ago
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream
Make him the cutest that I've ever seen
Give him two lips like roses and clover
Then tell him that his lonesome nights are over.
Sandman, I'm so alone
Don't have nobody to call my own
Please turn on your magic beam
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream.
Nielsio 2 years ago
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Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream
Make him the cutest that I've ever seen
Give him the word that I'm not a rover
Then tell him that his lonesome nights are over.
Sandman, I'm so alone
Don't have nobody to call my own
Please turn on your magic beam
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream.
Nielsio 2 years ago
Mr. Sandman (Yesss?) bring us a dream
Give him a pair of eyes with a come-hither gleam
Give him a lonely heart like Pagliacci
And lots of wavy hair like Liberace
Mr Sandman, someone to hold
Would be so peachy before we're too old
So please turn on your magic beam
Mr Sandman, bring us, please, please, please
Mr Sandman, bring us a dream.
Nielsio 2 years ago
Generally I do not have respect for most women, to the same extent I do not have respect for most men.
I do not pretend people are smart when obviously the majority of people are dumb.
ModelAnarchist 2 years ago 4
Because you can rarely know with certainty what someone's aim really is until you interact with them for some time and apply some critical thinking to the issue. People are often deceptive or have multiple motives.
hypothetically I may be interested in what you have to say anyway, but more interested because you are an attractive woman. If what you say is true, then I have an incentive to lie about that because I don't want you to be disinterested in talking with me.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
EdwardMandellHouse 2 years ago
Mostly agreed. I personally wouldn't mind and would have a weird sense of respect myself if I was a girl and a guy came up to me and asked "hey, I find you hot. Wanna fuck?".
Hey, at least this theoretical man is being honest.... with both of us. :9
Shezmu 2 years ago
I really bad with this. I need to expect more from girls.
I loled when you mentioned the whole puppy thing.
Luke12000 2 years ago 4
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You boys are so young and naive. You may want to expect more from your mate, but if you expect more from women in general you will surely be very disappointed.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
honestly BJA. It seems like you are just now spewing sexist rhetoric that is getting pretty annoying
aaron0883 2 years ago
you seem to think that because something is sexist, it can't be true. so you give women credit just for being women, not for what they can do. seems pretty disrespectful according to what you just said?
Finiras 2 years ago
you seem to on the money.
Im glad someone other than me has noticed this.
realizing this kinda knocked humanity down a notch for me. seeing that the search for something meaningful is pretty much irrelevant to most humans.
anonforuz 2 years ago
"Something meaningful" is a pretty subjective phrase. Pussy, for example, can be pretty meaningful to a dude in a dry spell.
But that's no reason to look down on someone. Without the drive to fuck, our species wouldn't exist, so in a way, fucking could be said to be the MOST meaningful thing to 'humanity'.
Cailwyn 2 years ago
Thats not my idea of meaningful. and I will look down on them.
anonforuz 2 years ago
Who is this comment directed at?
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
Chris Rock- "Men don't have platonic friends. We just have women we haven't fucked yet. 'As soon as I figure this out, Im in there!' I mean we got some platonic friends, we all do. I mean I got some platonic friends, but they are all by accident. Every platonic friend I got was some woman I was trying to fuck, I made a wrong turn somewhere, and ended up in the friend zone."
Cailwyn 2 years ago
The only women friends I have had that I didn't want to have sex with, I later found out that they were romantically interested in me.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
great video. I think you are right. A lot of libertarian men seem to almost fertilize libertarian women. I never realized how messed up that was until now. I think it stems from insecurity, and then attaining some sort of female approval by proxy of sharing the same geeky interests. Does that sound right? Since the libertarian movement at least seems to be getting more gender diversified, I think it is a good time to examine how we do and should interact with each other as libertarians.
DeraJa 2 years ago
Good video Aaron.
IndividualAutonomy 2 years ago
Question: You mentioned that many of the guys you hang out with are as you say, "sexist". My question is how can you logically be friends with people who you believe to not respect women as people and claim to respect women as people? Or is "sexism" not too bad of a thing to have?
Shezmu 2 years ago 4
Guys marry for bad reasons. When it comes to women, we have less judgment than bugs in a moonshine bottle. Guys marry charm. They marry a sweet smile, a perky toss of the chin. They marry clear skin and bright eyes, soft lips, warm hands. Men marry necking on back roads with crickets creaking in the woods and warm breezes and Sally is just so unspeakably wonderful they can't do without her. Men marry illusion. Sally marries a pre-med.We males have an infinite capacity for deluding ourselves.
bubburubb 2 years ago
If the women was smart, she's marry a doctor, not a premed. Men marry women hoping they will never change. Women marry men hoping they will change. Men don't change and women always do.
Marriage is worthless and meaningless now anyway. It has been since it ceased to be an enforcible contract. .
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
I thnk your missing the point.
bubburubb 2 years ago 2
No, I just disagree. We males have an almost infinite capacity to delude ourselves. Women have more of a capacity and a propensity than we.
Men are rarely objective. Women are almost never objective. One of the smartest women ever, Marie Curie died of radiation poisoning when she knew better than anyone else on earth how dangerous it was and forced her lab workers to take precautions that she neglected.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
Sorry, you're.
bubburubb 2 years ago
If girls weren't so fucking retarded, I would be able to respect them.
Most girls are puppies. But RARELY a smart one will come along who I respect. I think I've met only 2 or 3 girls in my life who are actually intelligent.
ZamatoElite 2 years ago 4
To be honest, I don't think one can fairly say that men are much different.
Shezmu 2 years ago 3
Disagree.
I meet smart males all the time. Probably because they know they can't flash their boobs whenever they have a problem.
ZamatoElite 2 years ago 4
I'm now interested in your definition of smart. Because I meet men all the time who don't care about anything substantial, only care about stuff like american idol and wearing baggy clothing, and have no problems being "puppies" who do bad things for bad people. Note my intentional ambiguity in that last sentence in a bad attempt to avoid a red herring while proving a point.
In short, I'm with Swordsage; *humans* just suck, no matter the gender.
Shezmu 2 years ago
so what you care about is what makes you smart or not? not at all, serial killers can be intelligent.
Finiras 2 years ago
I hate to go 4chan but,
>>> girls are mostly retarded/dumb
>>> guys are general are smart
>> provides example of men being as dumb as women
> what you just said.
Mind helping me out here? Cause I'm confused.
Shezmu 2 years ago
I have a lot of respect for women and demand a lot of them. And as a result I am single :-(
Stargazer5781 2 years ago 9
We share a similar curse my friend lol. I try many times with many girls... it all ends not so good lol.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
I have no problem conceding that Rose is Awesome. I think you're a pretty good judge of character, so it's highly probable. The face that she's your girlfriend proves my point. You recognize as much as I do how rare those qualities are in a woman.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
It's hard to see women as persons.
Mastikator 2 years ago
This is the old Harry met Sally debate.
Let''s use Rose for an example. She's pretty, but we are not supposed to care about that. She's also smart and (from what I can tell) cool...FOR A GIRL. Don't get me wrong- that makes her much more tolerable to be around I'm sure, but more tolerable that whom? OTHER GIRLS.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
She is also vastly smarter than other guys. She is pretty, and that is pleasing to the eyes, but I didn't start talking to her because she is pretty. She has a ton of amazing qualities. She is a billion times more awesome company than most guys, and not because she is a girl and has girly parts. Do you see that you are exactly doing what i talk about? You can't think of a girl is awesome as a person
aaron0883 2 years ago
I can think a girl is awesome as a person. it's just extremely rare. Imagine there's a bell curve of awesome men with the horizontal axis being how awesome they are. The bell curve for women would be similar only less flat and moved two orders of magnitude to the left.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
i am not going to disagree. I do think thereare biological things that make it so boys and girls are different. However, what i percieve to the biological differences I have no problems with, and even appriciate. I think that guys who have no value for girls but as puppies often become fathers and raise girls who are nothing better than just puppies. Girls can be intellegent, virtuous, and awesome all around, but as long as people only hope for puppies in girls. This is what we'll get.
aaron0883 2 years ago
Ah, well not we're on to a subject I can speak on with some authority. What women are naturally very good at is getting what they want.. What they are very bad at and what I have a responsibility to teach my daughter is to discover what is is what they really want. There is a reason why Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan are so miserable.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
Well ... All people naturally want what they want and work for that. However, for all people, what they want is often distorted by being fed a lot of bad information. So to me, the same exact thing can be said of men. I do think it is likely that women are fed worse information than men, but the same principals apply to both genders
aaron0883 2 years ago
Why would it be do you think that women would be fed more bad information? It's because they reward those who lie to them much more than men do. I can't even count the times I have heard a women complain that all the men she dates are liars. ...DUH!!!!
There are plenty of men who will tell her the truth, but she doesn't want to date them. Women are more gullible because they don't have or develop the critical thinking skills as much as men do. There are no female chess champions.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
I do hink that girls minds work differently than mens. However, girls tht date liars usually have psychological issues related to this. Bad information. Having a father who doesn't respect you as a person seems to me would cause problems in judging and dating men. I've read plenty of the evolutionary biology suff (including The Bell Curve), and while I agree with many aspects ... I disagree with conclusions some make. A girl who is respected as a child will want to be respected as an adult.
aaron0883 2 years ago
If "all women naturally want what they want and work for that" then why are Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan so miserable? They can get ANYTHING they want.. The answer is obvious. They don't know what they want, they don't know what would make them happy, or they'd get it. They don't think critically or rationally or objectively. They don't look long-term and big picture. In short, they are typical women in extraordinary circumstances.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
not to say that I blame men exactly. Men are raised to look at girls as puppies ... and mothers raise people perpetuating this also. So I really don't think the root of this is because of evil men
aaron0883 2 years ago
I value girls as people, and as a result, 95% of the people I talk to are guys.
Most girls have no incentive to be interesting people so they never develop those skills.
zuiprax 2 years ago 15
I have ten times as many male friends as female, but then again I only have nine friends.
billyjoeallen 2 years ago
so you respecting girls means your not trying to get into their pants... heh no, you seem to be in denial there about your real reason for not talking to girls.
Finiras 2 years ago