Vocational School replacing traditional 4-year college education?

[mochafudgetruffle]

A college degree is mostly a waste. Some vocational schools are a complete waste also. The medical billing and medical transcription schools are a scam, because most medical billing/transcription is sent overseas now.

[kyokushinfighter78]

So trade school is a wise and smart decision to make nowadays. With trade school skills by the time you are 21 you can have money even make your own business, then you can always go back to college for "education" if you really want to taste the college life that is.

I myself have 2 masters degree and a PhD candidate, but I will give my kids a totally different view on "education".

[kyokushinfighter78]

Law School: Unless you are graduated from 5 top school, law jobs are saturated and the competition are so fierce and unhealthy. There are simply too many lawyers nowadays.

Engineering : Engineering jobs are now outsourced.

-Science : You can't work in Science just with undergrad degree. You need 5-7 years of PhD plus 4 years of Postdoc with 21k stipend/year then struggling for Tenure track position or Researcher in industry where usually there are 300 applicants for 1 position.

[kyokushinfighter78]

The economy is changing. In 70-90's college education really means something. But now...

Liberal Arts : hmm who needs that ?

Med School : Take loong time to finish, incredibly expensive and with uncertain insurance

policy and lawsuits against health care professional nowadays, career in that area can be considered very risky.

[JesusRealyIsGod]

I totaly agree...

[nanlisa]

These grade school graduates accumulate just as much student loan debt as any college graduate. For example: ITT Tech charges (I believe) $41,000 a year in tuition. That's the equivalent of a year's tuition at the University of Pennsylvania.

Don't let these so-called "admissions reps" pressure you into signing up. Take your time. Do your homework. Check them out first.

These trade schools are profit-making schools; and many of them go out of business. A four-year college won't.

[nanlisa]

Some of those trade schools are ripoffs. Some companies won't even hire graduates of some of these schools. Employers want degrees from a recognized and established school.

Like I've said before, these trade school ads glamorize the fields that the teach; such as the health care industry. For example, being a medical or a dental assistant is not a glamorous job. You have to help the doctor with a patient, draw their blood, stick needles in them; deal with crying children, and so forth.

[micmoable]

I agree with you---I've been through many semesters of college and I think I am all the better for having the education that I have----it helps a person in so many ways in life to have a basic knowledge of history,math,science, English,etc.

[SudanCarib]

Vocational school= Hand and physical body work, manual labor learning.

College= Mental and psychological work, expanding knowledge and higher learning.

[christoph2005]

@stephenbhola

Wait to go?

was that a typo?

[christoph2005]

I never heard you say what it is that you wanted to do with your life.

I think it depends what you want to do. But consider this, some employers will not promote someone without a bachelors degree. Just to keep doors open, one should at least get the easiest bachelors degree, in any subject.

However, if you want to do any career that requires a High Level of technical skill and critical thinking. 4-yr Science Based Major All the way.

Cheap college advice in 500 characters or less...

[pervmanyesican]

4 year education, washing cars at enterprise,.fuck college, fuck vocational school, fuck the system

[BobBoopable]

The commercial is misleading? Colleges are misleading. There is nothing wrong with a "well rounded education" but colleges are marketing themselves as a means to a career at the expense of the students. Vocational schools are specifically designed to train an individuals for a particular career. Colleges ARE NOT. College cause a lot of debt but vocational schools don't. Its difficult to start long-term (low risk) investments at a young age when you are tied down with a 4 year college debt.

[Kesvideos23]

Four year universities arent horrible, there just not worth the cost. The education that our parents onced valued is now produced like a car on the Assembly line and were tired of it. Education is a term, not a place. Learning takes place for your whole life. Not just a slim 4 years in brick buildings. Research College debt, to post grad earnings, you'll find the debt as cought up and actually placed High school grads above College grads for lifetime earnings.

[SoulNtuition]

@Kesvideos23 You have a valid point. Thanks for sharing!

[DaMostEnigmatic]

I appreciate vocational schools much more than college; you go beyond simply theory and actually get to work in your field, apply what you learn and get paid at the same time

[SoulNtuition]

@DaMostEnigmatic I hear what you're saying. Just dont htink it replaces a well-rounded education. But I get what you mean!

[DaMostEnigmatic]

@SoulNtuition yeah but just because someone doesn't go to college doesn't mean they can't have a well rounded education. Most of our education occurs in the real world, the stuff they don't teach you in a classroom.

[DaMostEnigmatic]

Sad to say, I'm one of those people who majored in English and really, it teaching was not the reason I choose it, writing was. I still enjoy creative writing and journaling in my spare time, but after researching the market for journalism and writing jobs, it was no longer my thing. Right now I'm studying to move into IT with certifications instead. My message to anyone going to college, make sure it's something very practical like science, technology or medicine.

[alohabear09]

that was a great insight. i agree that getting into a 4 yr college makes you a well rounded person. i just thought maybe vocational school would be good for those who barely has time to go to a 4 yr college. i think going to a vocational training would be better for some students and for the government as well because the less they will spend in helping a student finish college. college/BS/BA degree is just not for everyone.

[Legitbusiness1182]

Im sorry but college is a joke. 4year universities are money scams.

[beebop46n2]

It's sad because our elected officials are supporting/promoting this scam. Why haven't they attempted to regulate who gets loans? Right now everybody gets them even if they have no financial plan. What happens is you have an oversupply of BS/BA degrees which decreases the worth of those degrees. What the govt does have though is more control over you because you owe uncle sam. read between the lines

[beebop46n2]

Yes it's scary! This being said it comes down to the bottom line. Education is much much more expensive then when your parents went to school. The costs have increased much greater than inflation. The educational costs are higher than what the market will pay you. Most the time a graduate degree is required which is most of the time insanely expensive. When you figure in net income vocational school is better. Lower debt means you money can be invested into your retirement earlier.

[Darkdesertmoon1]

fill an open position and just because someone has a degree does not make them fit to do the job. What matters most to me is experience. I am not saying that a degree is worthless, but I know that there is nothing that they teach you in college that you can't learn on your own. Most of the people I know who went to college are still paying on their college loans and are not even making enough money.

[Darkdesertmoon1]

I realize this video was done a while ago, but I for one believe that college education is a waste of time and money. I have always been able to find good paying jobs without a four year degree. I make more money than my sister who has her masters degree. In my opinion, the only education that pays off, is if you are studying to be in the medical profession. There was a time when a four year degree seemed impressive, but believe me, I have performed job interviews looking to

[kcsween]

I'd also like to add: I don't advocate one institution over the other because there are so many ways one can gain education without the other, i.e. a library card or the internet.

[kcsween]

I have to agree with jeremyrose. Also, you have to take into consideration that most if not all these vocational schools go year round with minimal breaks whereas colleges/universities are on break every time you turn around. Kids overseas, in some countries go to school [grade school thru high school] year round and on Saturdays so they graduate sooner than we do.

[takethat2thebank]

for the most part i feel as though a 4 year college offers a well rounded education and social development...however there are many people that are sociable, socially aware and engaged in self-education, which would make vocational schooling more ideal for them because they are more sophisticated than your average "college student"/college candidate....

[takethat2thebank]

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in addition, i do believe that the commercial you saw was targeting those who don't fit that description...many who choose to go to vocational school do so because it is fast, not taking into account the many attributes they need to cultivate while they are in the program...the commercial was wreckless as many are, thats why i no longer watch the tele(lie)vision

[jeremyrose]

Major is more important than the degree. A library card can create a well rounded education. Most B.A.s and B.S. don't mean much, and so employers want a masters. The balance of education really should come before college. Most majors are worthless sad to say.

[SoulNtuition]

Exactly! It's sad to see that even education is succumbing to the "Fast & Furious" mindset of the world.

[walkermiker]

so true. considering today's economy, a well rounded education proves it worth when you have to pursue a different career after losing the job that you received specialize training for.