When he said that if there are different teachings someone will be correct and someone will be wrong he lost me... He apparently is unaware that everybody can be wrong and excludes that possibility.
@upisoft2 Hi..........I don't know what video you heard......but I ackowledge in class that everybody can be wrong..........Yes, I know that..........but not everybody can be right..........I do make this distinction...
@nschaub What was said about 4:40 to 5:00 There is assumption that if there are different teachings somebody is right ... and somebody is wrong. The correct thing to say is that not all of them logically could be correct. So logically existence of teachings that are wrong is necessary, that part I agree. However no such logical necessity exists that someone is right. It might be that one of them is right or it might be that all are wrong.
Orthodox Christians completely and utterly reject original sin yet they still insist on baptising infants. Is infant baptism really about original sin?
The Catholic Church who brought us the bible Is the Final Arbiter of Truth. Period. Explanation point. Anyone wishing to make me stand corrected, prove me wrong using Scripture and Traditions of The Early Church. (2 Thess 2: 15) I beg you to.. ;-)
correct me if i'm wrong but i thought there were no denominations in christ as technically we are all still children of God - that includes hindus muslims and jews
@RetroLoverGirl Hi.....according to the New Testament only those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior from sin and death are children of God. Here is one example: Yet to all who received him (Jesus), to those who believed in his name (Jesus), he gave the right to become the children of God" (John 1: 12, NIV);
@RetroLoverGirl Denominations started with Lutheranism. Google it and you'll see for yourself. Don't take mine or anyone's word for it.. Since Martin Luther 33,000 denominations of churches..Just splitting off from one another..The only Church that is not a Denomination is The Catholic Church. It never denominated from anyone.. I'll prove it to you right now. Google "List Of Popes". All of them (PUBLIC and Catholic) will give you the whole list from Peter The Apostle to the present Pope..
@JDNWF66 I would be curious to see the pastors response on your question. According to the pastors beliefs (sola scriptura), the bible should be deciding who departs from the Word of God. BUT the million $ question is WHO decides who departs from the proper interpretation of the Word of God. Clearly if the bible was 100% easily understood, we wouldnt even be having a talk on different demonimations. This clearly shows the faults of sola scriptura. Words on paper cannot be the final authority.
@catchzz I will answer your MILLION $ question. Ok? Sit back and relax. This is an easy one. The answer is that The Catholic Church (Roman) gave you and me the bible. Yes indeed. If Historical record proves this for you, you can research this yourself. It were The Catholic Church Ecumenical Councils from the 300's A.D. to the 400's A.D. that DECIDED wihich books and epistles were to be added into the Scripture. So let me ask you a logical question. (Next post.....continued.....
@catchzz So let me continue from the earlier post in your answer by asking you that if The Catholic Church gave us The Bible, wouldn't it be obvious that The Catholic Church would have the sole authority to interpret it? ABSOLUTELY. If someone made you a pie for desert and you wanted to know the ingredients of how to make it, who would you go to? A stranger off the street or the person who actually made the pie? You know the answer to that one. THE PERSON WHO MADE THE PIE. ;-)
@catchzz Your never going to hear this or any Pastor's remarks to my question because for them to acknowledge the date of the Church who brought us the Canons is the same Church Dates they all criticize for departing from Truth....So which is it, Pastor Lassman? Can't have it both ways... On doctrine ... scriptural canonical dates and everything in between.... They can't, Catchzz.... They just cannot. So they dummy up. Sad to say leaving you in a confused state...but you don't have to be.
@JDNWF66 I understand completely that protestant pastors will not answer the questions. They have departed too much from the one true church established by Christ.
@claudius860 HI....well no...Scripture, not people, determine what is a big issue...and the big issues all revolve around Jesus Christ, His Person, His Work, and how he gives us salvation.
Thanks for posting this! ..Denominationalism is the result of the REACTION to different teachings: they PARTED WAYS..which is division!
How, in your opinion, would God want us to 'deal' with the reality of denominationalism today: accept the 'status quo' and cooperate or insist on getting back together., behaving like Rom 14 (weak and strong) describes?
@Koensdus HI..thanks for your comment. I don't think the Romans passage applies as that is talking about "adiaphora"...things that are indifferent....not about doctrine. We never compromise God's Word for any reason. The only God pleasing solution is to overcome the CAUSE of the divisions: different teachings. And the only way to do that is to come to agreement on God's Word.with study.............however that is done. My church works toward that goal with other churches. Thanks again...
Pastor Lassman, what do you think of this "Lutheran Core", North American Lutheran Church (NALC) which used to belong to ELCA?! Myself I think America do not need another Lutheran denominations...could the step to the Missouri synod be too wide for conservatives in the ELCA? Maybe it is the issue about women ordinations.
@karpov89 HI...well, it's sad. They are too conservative for the ELCA but too liberal for the Missouri Synod.....because of the Ordination of women...and perhaps with some the issue of open/closed communion and perhaps for some Theistic Evolution...Thus they are forming another denomination..........you are right...this is sad.........
@nschaub My experience is in my own church that most female clergy (there are exeptions) are more liberal and I wonder how many of the pastors in Core are women..so could that be such a problem that if they join they may not ordain female pastors. The issue of open or closed communion should not be a big issue for them either..who would not agree that is is harmful to receive the holy Communion if you do not believe in the real presence or even worse, are not a Christan at all..
Pastor Lassman, where did you get your Bible from? Didn't Luther take out books that he did not like because they contradicted his teachings? How come the Orthodox and Catholics have more books then y'all? Did not they exist before the Lutheran Church? Why would they be wrong on the matter? The only reason why Luther is able to say that those books are not canonical is because the Jews at the time did not use those books; but they were used and accepted at the Council of Rome.
@santosst18 HI........Luther did not take books out of the bible for any reason...these books did exist before Luther but they were not part of the canon of Scripture...Rome did not declare them to be part of Scripture until the Council of Trent in the 16th Century. The Jews did not include them in their canon of scripture. The apocryphal books were connected with the Greek and Latin TRANSLATIONS of the Hebrew Scriptures which never included the apocypha.......Pastor Lassman
Just admit it! It's because you all can't agree on what parts to take literally because they affect you differently and let's be honest, NOBODY agrees 100% with the bible.
If there R dif deno none R N bible, they R not Christians Hindu, Muslims, Cath etc neithr RU preach dif denom. Paul say speak tsame thing I Cor 1:10, Jhn 7: 16. U/othrs R preachng dif they R not Christians the bible speaks of. Paul nvr sent epistles to dif denom they were all the same, there r no bro in dif denom, Luth not a bibcal name he said not to wear his name. Wrong it is not either/both is None but ONE if U/othr denom preach/teach dif U/they R not flwng bible JC prayr Jhn 17:21 Eph 4:3-6
Thanks! I see..well then I think LCMS is the sound party here..The issue of the ministry is fundamental for the church..not praying with others, that is extreme and will not lead to any good.
Peace, Pastor Lassman! A question, in your opinion, what is the difference between the Missouri Synod and the Winsconsin synod? Do you think there is any chance they will join forces?
HI..the LCMS and the WELS are much closer to each other than to the ELCA...The WELS has a diff view of ministry...LCMS sees the pastoral office as the ministry with other church offices as auxillary...WELS sees the office in terms of functions and the pastoral office is no diff than other church positions. Also WELS will not pray with other Christians LCMS will...No..I do not see any joining of forces in the near future...Pastor Lassman
Seventh-Day Adventist's should have been added beside the Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, etc. I left that cult, it was started by a woman who false prophesized the coming of jesus christ, claming to have created the remnant church in Revelation when --- the remnant church was created by GOD and the whore of babylon is the earthly things.
HI..thanks for your comments..yes, the so called "experts" usually comment on the non-Christian views of the 7th Day Adventists...I'm glad you left but where did you go? What church did you join? Pastor Lassman
omg....this guy teaches so well.... im not lutherian at all but wow...im just christian...non dominational...and his example of family and the political parties made perfect sense ... kudos
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Amen! I fully agree with the Christian unity you describe! Mutual relation is one thing I strongly hope for in all of Christianity. And, on the side, I'm glad you mentioned that the non-trinitarians are outside the Church.
Lutherans believe that theirs is the one true faith, but we aren't the only ones who have it. There are Christians in all denominations. Whoever confesses that Jesus is Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, he will be saved!
Can I ask what sect you ascribe yourself to? Yes, anyone can make the bible say anything and that is why we should stay away from personal interpretation.
Again, truth is not determined by numbers. When it comes to not praying with other christians you have confused the Wisconsin Synod (which does not pray with other Christians) with the Missouri Synod (which does)..Pastor Lassman
Clearly a Missouri-Synod Lutheran, not like the vast majority of the United States' and the world's Lutherans (Missouri Synod is a small minority - about 2.5 million of about 80 million Lutherans worldwide) -fixated on being the "only" answer, shunning even praying with "Lutherans" who are not Missouri-Synod, unlike other Lutherans who embrace brothers and sisters of all catholic faiths...
Minute 6:30 onward. "It's not an either or, it's a both and." "Ultimately God will sort it out at the end of the world, and whatever He decides, fine with me." "If I find out, you know Pastor Lassman on this point over here you were wrong, oops." That's were I got the impressions I stated.
Hi.....thanks for the clarification. I realize too that you have just "clips" from the class and if you had the entire video for that lesson it might be even more clear to you. I'm glad we cleared that up though! Pastor Lassman
Interesting. Sounds like you don't believe the Lutheran Church contains the entirety of Christian truth and that you may indeed be incorrect in some of your teachings.
Well, actually, I'm just stunned to hear such an admission! Why then would one choose to join the Lutheran Church when there is no assurance that what is taught is truth? Why should I not be a Methodist, Pentecostal or Presbyterian? Or does it even matter? Fascinating.
Dear Friend...I was joking. Based on the Lutheran Confessions (our official statement of faith) we believe that where there are differences on doctrine, Lutherans have it RIGHT. How you got your idea from listening to my videos is beyond my ability to understand. Lutherans have THE doctrine. Where there are differences Lutherans have it RIGHT. Is the clear enough? Pastor Lassman
So, consequently, before the life of Martin Luther and the development of Lutheranism, the Body of Christ was helplessly swept back and forth by different degrees of false doctrine?
The New Testament constantly warns of false teachers and teachings. Luther did not invent anything new. His teaching was more "catholic" than Rome in that all his teachings can be found in the early church fathers which cannot be said of some of Rome's teachings. The church had been increasingly corrupted by false teachers/techings by the time of Luther. He addressed this situation. He wanted a"reformation" not "revolution". Pastor Lassman
But, if Martin Luther and Lutheranism is the only true and trustworthy vehicle of Biblical truth collectively, then did Christ Jesus fail to build his Church with God the Spirit for approximately 1,500 years (ref. Matthew 16:18, cross ref. Isaiah 55:11)?
No..Lutherans believe there are Christians in other Christian denominations. You don't have to be Lutheran to be saved. But where there are differences in teachings the Lutheran Faith is the Christian Faith. A person can have faith and Jesus and still be wrong about certain teachings. Pastor Lassman
You are missing my point. How do non-Lutheran "born again" believers stumble upon the truth, if they do not have the guidance of Lutheran teachers and their doctrinal teachings?
Does God the Spirit teach Lutheran doctrine? If so, then Christ Jesus did fail to build his Church with God the Spirit for approximately 1,500 years (ref. Matthew 16:18, cross ref. Isaiah 55:11).
When he said that if there are different teachings someone will be correct and someone will be wrong he lost me... He apparently is unaware that everybody can be wrong and excludes that possibility.
upisoft2 3 months ago
@upisoft2 Hi..........I don't know what video you heard......but I ackowledge in class that everybody can be wrong..........Yes, I know that..........but not everybody can be right..........I do make this distinction...
nschaub 3 months ago
@nschaub What was said about 4:40 to 5:00 There is assumption that if there are different teachings somebody is right ... and somebody is wrong. The correct thing to say is that not all of them logically could be correct. So logically existence of teachings that are wrong is necessary, that part I agree. However no such logical necessity exists that someone is right. It might be that one of them is right or it might be that all are wrong.
upisoft2 3 months ago
Orthodox Christians completely and utterly reject original sin yet they still insist on baptising infants. Is infant baptism really about original sin?
brendos444 5 months ago
The Catholic Church who brought us the bible Is the Final Arbiter of Truth. Period. Explanation point. Anyone wishing to make me stand corrected, prove me wrong using Scripture and Traditions of The Early Church. (2 Thess 2: 15) I beg you to.. ;-)
JDNWF66 8 months ago
correct me if i'm wrong but i thought there were no denominations in christ as technically we are all still children of God - that includes hindus muslims and jews
RetroLoverGirl 9 months ago
@RetroLoverGirl Hi.....according to the New Testament only those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior from sin and death are children of God. Here is one example: Yet to all who received him (Jesus), to those who believed in his name (Jesus), he gave the right to become the children of God" (John 1: 12, NIV);
nschaub 9 months ago
@RetroLoverGirl Denominations started with Lutheranism. Google it and you'll see for yourself. Don't take mine or anyone's word for it.. Since Martin Luther 33,000 denominations of churches..Just splitting off from one another..The only Church that is not a Denomination is The Catholic Church. It never denominated from anyone.. I'll prove it to you right now. Google "List Of Popes". All of them (PUBLIC and Catholic) will give you the whole list from Peter The Apostle to the present Pope..
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@nschaub and you decide who "DEPARTS" from the Word of God, right? Seriously?
JDNWF66 9 months ago
@JDNWF66 I would be curious to see the pastors response on your question. According to the pastors beliefs (sola scriptura), the bible should be deciding who departs from the Word of God. BUT the million $ question is WHO decides who departs from the proper interpretation of the Word of God. Clearly if the bible was 100% easily understood, we wouldnt even be having a talk on different demonimations. This clearly shows the faults of sola scriptura. Words on paper cannot be the final authority.
catchzz 8 months ago
@catchzz I will answer your MILLION $ question. Ok? Sit back and relax. This is an easy one. The answer is that The Catholic Church (Roman) gave you and me the bible. Yes indeed. If Historical record proves this for you, you can research this yourself. It were The Catholic Church Ecumenical Councils from the 300's A.D. to the 400's A.D. that DECIDED wihich books and epistles were to be added into the Scripture. So let me ask you a logical question. (Next post.....continued.....
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz So let me continue from the earlier post in your answer by asking you that if The Catholic Church gave us The Bible, wouldn't it be obvious that The Catholic Church would have the sole authority to interpret it? ABSOLUTELY. If someone made you a pie for desert and you wanted to know the ingredients of how to make it, who would you go to? A stranger off the street or the person who actually made the pie? You know the answer to that one. THE PERSON WHO MADE THE PIE. ;-)
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@catchzz Your never going to hear this or any Pastor's remarks to my question because for them to acknowledge the date of the Church who brought us the Canons is the same Church Dates they all criticize for departing from Truth....So which is it, Pastor Lassman? Can't have it both ways... On doctrine ... scriptural canonical dates and everything in between.... They can't, Catchzz.... They just cannot. So they dummy up. Sad to say leaving you in a confused state...but you don't have to be.
JDNWF66 8 months ago
@JDNWF66 I understand completely that protestant pastors will not answer the questions. They have departed too much from the one true church established by Christ.
catchzz 8 months ago
@claudius860 HI....well no...Scripture, not people, determine what is a big issue...and the big issues all revolve around Jesus Christ, His Person, His Work, and how he gives us salvation.
nschaub 11 months ago
Thanks for posting this! ..Denominationalism is the result of the REACTION to different teachings: they PARTED WAYS..which is division!
How, in your opinion, would God want us to 'deal' with the reality of denominationalism today: accept the 'status quo' and cooperate or insist on getting back together., behaving like Rom 14 (weak and strong) describes?
Koensdus 1 year ago
@Koensdus HI..thanks for your comment. I don't think the Romans passage applies as that is talking about "adiaphora"...things that are indifferent....not about doctrine. We never compromise God's Word for any reason. The only God pleasing solution is to overcome the CAUSE of the divisions: different teachings. And the only way to do that is to come to agreement on God's Word.with study.............however that is done. My church works toward that goal with other churches. Thanks again...
nschaub 1 year ago
Pastor Lassman, what do you think of this "Lutheran Core", North American Lutheran Church (NALC) which used to belong to ELCA?! Myself I think America do not need another Lutheran denominations...could the step to the Missouri synod be too wide for conservatives in the ELCA? Maybe it is the issue about women ordinations.
karpov89 1 year ago
@karpov89 HI...well, it's sad. They are too conservative for the ELCA but too liberal for the Missouri Synod.....because of the Ordination of women...and perhaps with some the issue of open/closed communion and perhaps for some Theistic Evolution...Thus they are forming another denomination..........you are right...this is sad.........
nschaub 1 year ago
@nschaub My experience is in my own church that most female clergy (there are exeptions) are more liberal and I wonder how many of the pastors in Core are women..so could that be such a problem that if they join they may not ordain female pastors. The issue of open or closed communion should not be a big issue for them either..who would not agree that is is harmful to receive the holy Communion if you do not believe in the real presence or even worse, are not a Christan at all..
karpov89 1 year ago
Pastor Lassman, where did you get your Bible from? Didn't Luther take out books that he did not like because they contradicted his teachings? How come the Orthodox and Catholics have more books then y'all? Did not they exist before the Lutheran Church? Why would they be wrong on the matter? The only reason why Luther is able to say that those books are not canonical is because the Jews at the time did not use those books; but they were used and accepted at the Council of Rome.
santosst18 1 year ago
@santosst18 HI........Luther did not take books out of the bible for any reason...these books did exist before Luther but they were not part of the canon of Scripture...Rome did not declare them to be part of Scripture until the Council of Trent in the 16th Century. The Jews did not include them in their canon of scripture. The apocryphal books were connected with the Greek and Latin TRANSLATIONS of the Hebrew Scriptures which never included the apocypha.......Pastor Lassman
nschaub 1 year ago
Just admit it! It's because you all can't agree on what parts to take literally because they affect you differently and let's be honest, NOBODY agrees 100% with the bible.
clipsryan 1 year ago
If there R dif deno none R N bible, they R not Christians Hindu, Muslims, Cath etc neithr RU preach dif denom. Paul say speak tsame thing I Cor 1:10, Jhn 7: 16. U/othrs R preachng dif they R not Christians the bible speaks of. Paul nvr sent epistles to dif denom they were all the same, there r no bro in dif denom, Luth not a bibcal name he said not to wear his name. Wrong it is not either/both is None but ONE if U/othr denom preach/teach dif U/they R not flwng bible JC prayr Jhn 17:21 Eph 4:3-6
6153calme 1 year ago
Thanks! I see..well then I think LCMS is the sound party here..The issue of the ministry is fundamental for the church..not praying with others, that is extreme and will not lead to any good.
karpov89 2 years ago
Peace, Pastor Lassman! A question, in your opinion, what is the difference between the Missouri Synod and the Winsconsin synod? Do you think there is any chance they will join forces?
karpov89 2 years ago
HI..the LCMS and the WELS are much closer to each other than to the ELCA...The WELS has a diff view of ministry...LCMS sees the pastoral office as the ministry with other church offices as auxillary...WELS sees the office in terms of functions and the pastoral office is no diff than other church positions. Also WELS will not pray with other Christians LCMS will...No..I do not see any joining of forces in the near future...Pastor Lassman
nschaub 2 years ago
@nschaub sorry my post abt not mentiong no catholics in the bible was not directed to you but the speaker.
6153calme 1 year ago
@nschaub Oh u R the speaker yes it was
6153calme 1 year ago
"I accept that there are brothers and sister in other denominations, but that doesn't mean I have to accept everything they believe and teach"
Exactly
Again from an EO Christian
jesujoyofmansdesirin 2 years ago
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The bible is so vague, so large,
and so filled with inconsistencies
that you can ALWAYS make it say whatever you like.
That's why even though Jesus himself
prayed that his followers would be 'one',
there are now nearly 40,000 official denominations (divisions)
of christianity, each of which is convinced
that all the others are wrong
and that they alone have the Truth.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Seventh-Day Adventist's should have been added beside the Mormons, Jehovah's Witness, etc. I left that cult, it was started by a woman who false prophesized the coming of jesus christ, claming to have created the remnant church in Revelation when --- the remnant church was created by GOD and the whore of babylon is the earthly things.
IandMVirtualMotive 3 years ago
HI..thanks for your comments..yes, the so called "experts" usually comment on the non-Christian views of the 7th Day Adventists...I'm glad you left but where did you go? What church did you join? Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
Hi..cobracarg..thanks for your nice comment and may the Lord be with you! Pastor Lassman
nschaub 3 years ago
omg....this guy teaches so well.... im not lutherian at all but wow...im just christian...non dominational...and his example of family and the political parties made perfect sense ... kudos
cobracarg 3 years ago
@cobracarg protestant
ChrisDaron 1 year ago
@ChrisDaron protestant? what???
cobracarg 1 year ago
@cobracarg Yeah.
ChrisDaron 1 year ago
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pleary96 3 years ago
Amen! I fully agree with the Christian unity you describe! Mutual relation is one thing I strongly hope for in all of Christianity. And, on the side, I'm glad you mentioned that the non-trinitarians are outside the Church.
AnHonestChristian 4 years ago 3
thanks again for your comments and encouragmement! Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
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bobbyke31 4 years ago
Lutherans believe that theirs is the one true faith, but we aren't the only ones who have it. There are Christians in all denominations. Whoever confesses that Jesus is Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, he will be saved!
TeDeumLaudemus03 4 years ago
read THE KING JAMES BIBLE AND LEARN THE TRUTH!!!
BELIEVERINCRIST 4 years ago
The KJV Bible says the earth is flat.
And that the sun revolves around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes, donkeys, and bushes talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
Other than a few (hundred) minor details like that,
it's a really truthful book!
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Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Can I ask what sect you ascribe yourself to? Yes, anyone can make the bible say anything and that is why we should stay away from personal interpretation.
catchzz 2 years ago
"Can I ask what sect you ascribe yourself to?"
Sect?
Reason forbid!
I am an atheist.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Again, truth is not determined by numbers. When it comes to not praying with other christians you have confused the Wisconsin Synod (which does not pray with other Christians) with the Missouri Synod (which does)..Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
Clearly a Missouri-Synod Lutheran, not like the vast majority of the United States' and the world's Lutherans (Missouri Synod is a small minority - about 2.5 million of about 80 million Lutherans worldwide) -fixated on being the "only" answer, shunning even praying with "Lutherans" who are not Missouri-Synod, unlike other Lutherans who embrace brothers and sisters of all catholic faiths...
jschiferl 4 years ago
Minute 6:30 onward. "It's not an either or, it's a both and." "Ultimately God will sort it out at the end of the world, and whatever He decides, fine with me." "If I find out, you know Pastor Lassman on this point over here you were wrong, oops." That's were I got the impressions I stated.
dan0898 4 years ago
Hi.....thanks for the clarification. I realize too that you have just "clips" from the class and if you had the entire video for that lesson it might be even more clear to you. I'm glad we cleared that up though! Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
Interesting. Sounds like you don't believe the Lutheran Church contains the entirety of Christian truth and that you may indeed be incorrect in some of your teachings.
dan0898 4 years ago
yep you got it..
nschaub 4 years ago
your powers of observation are amazing
nschaub 4 years ago
Well, actually, I'm just stunned to hear such an admission! Why then would one choose to join the Lutheran Church when there is no assurance that what is taught is truth? Why should I not be a Methodist, Pentecostal or Presbyterian? Or does it even matter? Fascinating.
dan0898 4 years ago
Dear Friend...I was joking. Based on the Lutheran Confessions (our official statement of faith) we believe that where there are differences on doctrine, Lutherans have it RIGHT. How you got your idea from listening to my videos is beyond my ability to understand. Lutherans have THE doctrine. Where there are differences Lutherans have it RIGHT. Is the clear enough? Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
Thank you for the clarification. Sarcasm in writing is hard to interpret at times.
dan0898 4 years ago
So, consequently, before the life of Martin Luther and the development of Lutheranism, the Body of Christ was helplessly swept back and forth by different degrees of false doctrine?
eahaddix 4 years ago
The New Testament constantly warns of false teachers and teachings. Luther did not invent anything new. His teaching was more "catholic" than Rome in that all his teachings can be found in the early church fathers which cannot be said of some of Rome's teachings. The church had been increasingly corrupted by false teachers/techings by the time of Luther. He addressed this situation. He wanted a"reformation" not "revolution". Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
But, if Martin Luther and Lutheranism is the only true and trustworthy vehicle of Biblical truth collectively, then did Christ Jesus fail to build his Church with God the Spirit for approximately 1,500 years (ref. Matthew 16:18, cross ref. Isaiah 55:11)?
eahaddix 4 years ago
No..Lutherans believe there are Christians in other Christian denominations. You don't have to be Lutheran to be saved. But where there are differences in teachings the Lutheran Faith is the Christian Faith. A person can have faith and Jesus and still be wrong about certain teachings. Pastor Lassman
nschaub 4 years ago
You are missing my point. How do non-Lutheran "born again" believers stumble upon the truth, if they do not have the guidance of Lutheran teachers and their doctrinal teachings?
Does God the Spirit teach Lutheran doctrine? If so, then Christ Jesus did fail to build his Church with God the Spirit for approximately 1,500 years (ref. Matthew 16:18, cross ref. Isaiah 55:11).
eahaddix 4 years ago
They have the Bible.
nschaub 4 years ago
And who teaches them how to interpret Biblical Scripture properly?
Even Atheists have the Bible, yet they manage to "butcher" it quite well.
eahaddix 4 years ago
You tell me...
nschaub 4 years ago
@nschaub u 4got to mention there is not a single catholic in the bible.
6153calme 1 year ago