@MRMdotORG -This generation doesn't mean what it means today. You can see evidence of this throughout the Bible. Just because you don't understand the Gospel doesn't mean Joseph Smith isn't a true prophet. You will be eating your words soon enough when the temple will be built and completed in Jackson County, MO. You make think the prophecy is past time but its not. The rest of this is just lies and Satanic Anti-Mormon hate speech. Good luck explaining yourselves in the judgment. Woe unto you.
@rockstarMileyCyrus Good luck explaining why we don't believe in Quaker-like men on the moon?? Good luck in explaining why the sciences completely discredit The Book of Mormon?? Good luck in in explaining why we dare to challenge LDS's teachings and writings through objective analysis and critical scrutiny?? Good luck in exposing the false & failed prophecies of Joseph SmYth?? Good luck in exposing LDS's spending money on forged documents, and LDS's lies about having possession of them??
@CounterCultureLives - Hey tool of Satan. Men on moon? I've never seen one science field discredit the Book of Mormon. You can challenge God and his servants all you want. You will get the same result Satan and his minions get and have gotten through the centuries. I hope you keep analyzing things the way your supposed to because if you do you will come to know the truth. None of Joseph Smith's prophecies have failed yet. But I sure can list off dozens upon dozens that have come true.
@rockstarMileyCyrus Right!! There really ARE Quaker-like men on the moon. God just concealed them from the astronauts because they weren't righteous enough to see them!!
@rockstarMileyCyrus Our Profit, Joseph SmYth accurately predicted that the year 1827 would come AFTER 1826, and BEFORE 1828. He ALSO predicted that the third Sunday in March would come BEFORE the fourth Sunday in March, and AFTER the second Sunday in March. What more evidence do you need??
@CounterCultureLives - Hey Tool of Satan. The liar here is you. Not the prophet Joseph Smith. You can rant and rave like a satanic fool all you want but the church of God will continue to grow and strengthen itself despite your puny foolish rants. Good luck pretending the church does everything you claim it does. I'll just continue to believe the Holy Ghost as it witnesses the truth of what the LDS prophets say. More and more of their prophecies come true day after day. Now repent fool.
I find it funny how they only allow Protestant scholars to be interviewed. If this documentary were worth anything, it would let Mormon scholars speak for themselves and articulate their beliefs rather than allow people at conflict with Mormon theology to say, "this is what they believe and this is why it's wrong."
In this generation? "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." - Jesus Why do you not hold Jesus to the same standard as you hold Joseph Smith?
@beachtalk ....A great expansion of Knowledge, the Gospel shall be preached in all nations. It's the generation that sees all these things....Read Mathew 24 again. The whole chapter. He is describing the last generation, not the ones he was talking to then.
@beachtalk Because you don't understand the Bible. He was not talking to THAT generation, he was talking about the generation that witnesses the things described in the end days. All the false prophets, false teachers, the parable of the fig tree, After the Jews regain their land, the stars shall fall from Heaven, the moon shall not give her light (it will be blood red), the Heavens shall peel back like a scroll. He was talking that THIS generation that sees these things. Not THAT generation....
Joseph Smith was another phony Jim Jones. Inhabitants living on the sun?? Come on......this has got to be embarrassing to educated members of this cult.
Mosiah 27:25 Marvel not that all mankind, yea men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousnous, being redeemed of God, becoming His sons and daughters, thus saith the LORD.
No Proof? And why do YOu think this? There is proof of both books. You should try doing research.
John L Sorenson PhD Anthropology, Daniel C. Peterson PhD Arabic, Egyptian, religious antiquities, John Clark PhD Archaeology.
You should read texts by these men. They have texts that show clearly the correlation between the book of Mormon and the history of the Central American Cultures.
Hugh Nibley is correct and your assumptions remain only assumptions. You haven't even attempted to read his work, so you have nothing to do but quote from Anti-Mormon sources. nice try grnmessiah
Okey let's not waste our time arguing WHO'S WHO GAME at this point in time.The Lord Jesus will WEED OUT HIMSELF ..ALL quackery(bogusness/Falseness?pretenders)save your energy for LJC wanted each one of you to be used by HIM,NOT to promote your own agendas and will nor to promote one's self(popolarity with men)limelight but TRULY SERVE the people in need of your help.SERVICE TO OTHERS is what LJC wants from us not others servicing us.
It is high time focusing ON what GOD wants & not we want.
Riiiight. This video is completely false and everything the LDS says is true. The wolf in sheep's clothing was Joseph Smith. If you looked at the evidence ojectively and without bias you would see that. However you choose to have your blinders on a see and do what makes you feel good instead of what God calls us to do - BELIEVE in the one whom He has sent. Jesus is our ONE and ONLY God. You think He is our spirit brother. Oh and by the way, these videos are not going anywhere.
The Nephiproject is selling a full blown DVD that shows the exact trail in which Lehi, Ishmail and their sons and daughters went thru the old world. The archaeology has been verified.
The church of Jesus Christ in this last dispensation is the true church, endowed with power and authority tracable to the Lord God, Jesus christ.
Are these the same "experts" who claim that Native Americans are descendents of Israelites? Outside of the mormon church, this is NOT an issue. No one ... NO ONE is debating this. Your so-called experts would be laughed out of the building in an independent room of experts. Have you watched the Lost Book of Abraham video yet? Right there is PROOF that J Smith was a fraud. They brought out the Egyptologists from the U of Chicago and he dubunked the whole thing. Your religion is false.
haha. Sure they are. University of Chicago = Idiots? LOL. You obviously lack any common sense, and for the record, you are not the Church of Jesus Christ. You don't even know what the Biblical understanding of the church is.
You are Latter Day Saints, just another 19th century cult with probably 100 denominations of its own, each claiming they have the correct prophet. That's why we just add you to the list with JW's, Scientologists, Christian Science and other cults.
Actually, no they're not. I don't know whether to pity you or laugh at you for your ignorance. You have nothing to offer as far as opinions or rebuttal to any charge against the cult that you are a part of.
Just repeating the phrases "we are the truth" or "that's anti-mormon" doesn't change the reality that your false religion was founded on the fraudulent claims and practices of Joseph Smith and the gullible. All cult leaders find some dummies to lead. I guess you're just one of them.
The bible is true but it has no authority neither you false preachers. God himself gave authority to Joseph. Be careful with you're saying, you're wrong...
The glory of the stars, the moon and the sun. Jesus already came to earth so He can teach and give autority to His servant Joseph, but He's about to come to judge nations. You guys don't understand the word and you're changing it the word for your own profit.
May God have mercy of you, becouse you're stoning a true prophet. You're guys are the false prophets and teachers.
I know that Jesuschrist lives and Joseph Smith is with Him in glory. See you guys at the tribunal of Christ.
THE SPIRITOFTRUTHLIVESIN ME.THE SPIRITOF TRUTHDOES NOT LIVE IN THE HEARTOFTHE LDSPPL THEY DONT KNOWTHE TRUTH ABOUTGOD .ALLTHEY NO IS WHAT JS ORTHE PROPHETS OF THE CHURCH SAID.THEYTHINK THERE CHURCH IS TRUE BUT A TRUE CHURCH OF GOD IS UNDER THE ATHORITY OF THE HOLY BIBLE AS/IT written and no other book is needed b/c God made his book to tell all humans the truth about Him and how to make it to his heaven.GODISTRUTHISPEFECTIS HOLY AND HIS HOLY BIBLE IS THE SAME.
OF THE MANY LDS PPL I HAVE WITNESSED TOO THEY TRULY BELEIVE THAT THEY ARE WALKING IN TRUTH OF GOD AND KNOW MORE ABOUT gOD AND JESUS CHRIST THEY 100% TRUST JS AND REJECT THE WORDS BY GOD as it is writeen in the Holy Bible TRANLATION IN THE BIBLE ARE NOT CORRECT YET THEY DONT SEE A TRANSLATION PROBLEM IN THE BOM????? OR THE MANY CHAGED TRANLATION JS HAD. HE LOOKED INTOA HAT THAT IS NOT REVEALED BY GOD.
"For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country."
Joseph Smith Jr., the founder of the Mormon Church, whose 1844 presidential campaign is historically notable not only because it was the first one in which the candidate was assassinated.
Announcing his candidacy Jan. 29, 1844, Smith told his supporters, "Tell the people we have had Whig and Democrat presidents long enough. We want a president of the United States."
1891: THe Mormons Incorporated the UTES into Mormonism and Freemasonry. This is the Source of THE GHOST DANCE. The massacre at Wounded Knee can be laid at the door of the MOrmon Hierarchy because they instigated the myth of the Ghost Dance with its "1891 is the end of the world" and the forced march and their murder. (and who knows, maybe some of those utes were at the mountain meadows massacre and needed to be used up)
joseph smith was a fraud and since i was born into the church, i know that members conveniently forget or avoid certain topics that are taboo.
members will tell you they are the fastest growing church on earth when the assemblies of god,pentecostals and seventh day adventists all have and still do grow much faster in a shorter amount of time.
why do the prophets continue to lie? more importantly, why do the mormons knowingly continue to believe the lies?
this is ridiculous. do we go around attacking your church when we don't know what we're talking about? anyone who is watching this, at the very least get both sides of the story before you judge anything. Actually, no, get the facts instead of misinterpreted scripture. this movie is wrong, and if i had the time I would go through and contest every point. don't get an opinion until you hear what a lds view from a reiable mormon source. otherwise, your opinion would be bias and prejudice.
The Bible teaches that the gospel will be taught by the 'weak and simple things of the earth'. LDS missionaries come from very varied intellectual up-bringings. For answers and Mormon perspective to these types of questions visit Jeff Lindsay's LDS website.
Jeff Lindsay is a dunce. I've spoken to him. Talk about a man who lacks any and all ability to listen to reason and common sense. His ideas and explanations are laughed out of both Christian and scientific classrooms.
Do not compare Smith to Jesus, You fools just like muhammad he went and forced himself to have a revelation and what do you know an angel came named maroone, yea nice try smith but christ preavails
Why do I ask? Simple: Because if you find that God's Holy Book is the last revelation to man (This is implied in the rule where you aren't supposed to add to or take from what has been given - in the bible) then there is NO MORE NEED FOR A PROPHET to relay a message. So why then does the book of mormon exist, and why a new prophet? If you are a Christian then you believe what has been written - that Joseph Simth is NOT a prophet but claims to be so. That is the very definition of a false prophet
"Coming of the Lord" Joseph said according to the rest of the 11 apostles that the lord would not come for at least 56 years not "in 56 years". You're incorrect again :D
Seriously guys out of hundreds of pages of "prophecy" as you say, you only find these few historical inaccuracies and misquotes? That's proof enough for me, I'm joining the Church of Jesus Christ, the one and only.
"Men on the Moon" Matthew 5 says there will be many lies said about Christ's people, this is one of the lies people say Joseph said.
"Temple being built" the error in this quote is "in this generation", which is incorrect and what someone 'thought they heard him say'.
"Next spring mission" is a commandment, not a "prophecy". The Doctrine and Covenants was before that time known as the "Book of Commandments" 'Thou shalt not kill' many kill but it doesn't make Moses not a prophet.
totally agree. it's easy to make prophesies about destroyed temples years after they were destroyed. the 'gospels' were written after 70ad. but retarded christians are to stupid and gullible to investigate.
Agreed - it is easy to write history and pass it off as prophecy, but whats even more funny about that prophesy is that he wailing wall still stands - stone upon stone and the wailing wall is the western wall portion of the original temple, which means their history was wrong too! LOL.
Yes, it is easy to pass history off as prophesy, especially when a particular group is trying to develop a communal [or national/relious] identity for the future generations to follow. What is so very funny about the prophecy of the temple being destroyed [made by Y'shua] is the that wailing wall, which is part of the temple still stands millenia later, stone on top of stone. That very prophecy means that either A] Y'shua is a fasle prophet or B] that the bible is NOT innerant.
at 6:15, the JS prophecy of 1891 is what led to the ghost dance: the Mormon Hierarchy approached and probably drugged wakara and this interaction with the Utes and Mormons led to THE GHOST DANCE> the mormons are responsible for the murders at Wounded Knee.
@1:45 This gentleman obviously hasn't realized that the wailing wall respresents a part of the temple that has stood for millenia - the wailing wall is proof against Y'shuas prophecy...
A foundation is an integral part of any building, and is thus still concidered PART of the temple - and as such ALL WALLS are concidered foundation for roofing - needless to say, WALLS still define the boundaties of buildings, so the wailing WALL is a part of the temple still standing. - The prophecy states that there would not be ONE STONE STANDING UPON ANOTHER, foundation or not - if you look at the wailing WALL you see that it consists of MANY stones standing upon each other. Nice Try.
Actually, the wailing wall was an outside wall of the courtyard. It was not a wall or foundation of the temple proper. It would be equivilant to the wall around Temple Square.
But as such, the prophesy states that the temple would be completely destroyed - temple proper, and temple square, since certain worshipers were not allowed in the temple proper, they had to worship in the temple proper which would still constitute the out boundary of the temple complex as a whole. So even the temple proper would still be concidered part and place of the temple as a whole - the wall did after all define its boundaries much the same way a wall defines the boundary of a house.
*Err I meant certain worshipers had to worship in the temple square. And the walls around the temple square still count as an integral part of the temple as people could give prayer therein.
Maybe I should make up a religion too. Joseph Smith was a smart man. Maybe his parents didn't show him enough attention. He's a really cool fiction writer though, too bad they didn't have TV back then, he'd have given Gene Roddenberry a run for his money. But seriously guys, how can a person believe in something so obviously contrived...by a proven liar no less. I feel sorry for you. Mitt Romney sucks! Ron Paul '08!!!
The 8 WITNESSES HELD THE PLATES, AND TURNED THE GOLD LEAF PAGES AND WERE AWED BY IT'S SPLENDOR. THE 3 SAW THE PLATES HELD BY MORONI HIMSELF AND BORE WITNESS THAT THEY SAW IT. THEY TOOK THAT WITNESS TO THEIR GRAVES. (EVEN MARTIN HARRIS THAT FELL AWAY DUE TO PRIDE) BUT the stupid anti's asked Martin to deny it, he refused for he wouldn't bring judgement of the ALMIGHTY on his head.
This completely sickens me. just about every line in here was misinterpreted and if a 17 year old can understand what the writings are better then these grown men. They should not be put in front of a camera. if you have questions aobut how any of this is false. ask me. i'll be more then happy to respond.
In 1823, seventeen-year-old Joseph Smith was told by the angel Moroni that: "God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people." (Joseph Smith History 1:33.)
That scripture also shows the canon (Bible)is complete because the prophets taught that the messiah would bring a New Convenant to the Earth and complete Gods plan of salvation.
Joseph Smith also boasted he did a greater work then all other prophets. He even states, "Not even the apostles, not even Jesus could keep the church together, I am greater then all!" Do you believe Joseph Smith is greater then Christ, the Messiah?
Here, the Lord describes both the false prophet and the false prophecy. A false prophet either speaks for false gods or attributes to the Lord things that the Lord did not command him to speak. The Deuteronomy 18 passage establishes two criteria for a false prophecy:
It must be uttered in the name of the Lord. This means that an off-the-wall comment by a prophet cannot be taken as a prophecy, pretended or otherwise, unless he declares that he is delivering the word of the Lord.
The prophecy must fail. But no timeframe is established for the fulfillment of a prophecy.
The Deuteronomy passage does not say that a man is a false prophet because his prophecy failed, only that the failed prophecy is false. This being the case, it is incorrect to conclude, as most critics do, that one false prophecy (even if some true prophecies are given) makes Joseph Smith a false prophet. The danger in so defining the Deuteronomy passage lies in the fact that there is a tendency on the part of non-believers to "explain away" the prophecy, while believers seek ways to defend it.
Consequently, a critic of Joseph Smith can look at a hundred of his prophecies, find one that, in his judgment, is in error, and thereby conclude that Joseph himself was a false prophet. That this has, in fact, happened with true prophets is evidenced in the Bible itself, where we read Jesus' statement about the stoning and rejection of the ancient prophets of Israel (Matthew 23:37). These men were undoubtedly stoned because, in the judgment of their contemporaries, they were false prophets.
A good example of the rejection of a prophet is the story of Jeremiah, who was imprisoned and mistreated by the leaders of Judah, who refused to believe his message.
President Joseph Fielding Smith, commenting on the passage from Deuteronomy 18, wrote,
When is a prophet a prophet? whenever he speaks under the inspiration and influence of the Holy Ghost... When prophets write and speak on the principles of the gospel, they should have the guidance of the Spirit. If they do, then all that they say will be in harmony with the revealed word. If they are in harmony then we know that they have not spoken presumptuously.
Should a man speak or write, and what he says is in conflict with the standards which are accepted, with the revelations the Lord has given, then we may reject what he has said, no matter who he is. ( Doctrines of Salvation 1:187)
Based on the false premise that "all you need is one false prophecy to have a false prophet," some critics have ignored many of Joseph Smith's prophecies and have zeroed in on ones they consider to be false. But they typically identify unfulfilled commandments, opinions, and counsel as "false prophecies."
In doing so, they forsake the rules laid out in Deuteronomy 18:20-22, ignoring the fact that the passage defines a false prophecy as one uttered in the name of the Lord which does not come to pass.
The main problem is that the critics do not apply these same standards to biblical prophecies. And when we try to show that, by these standards, many of the biblical prophets fail the tests they have set up for Joseph Smith, we are accused of "Bible-slamming." To those who ascribe more divinity to the Bible than to God, such a "sin" is worse than blasphemy itself. Honesty, however, impels us to submit the biblical prophets to the same tests as those applied to Joseph Smith.
For this reason, following the logic of the critics, we would have to conclude that Moses-to whom the revelation in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 is ascribed-was a false prophet. In Numbers 25:13, he said, in the name of the Lord, that Phinehas, his grand nephew, would hold the priesthood eternally. But if Hebrews 7:11-12 is correct, the Aaronic priesthood is not eternal.
In this particular example, Moses fills the requirement for the test of Deuteronomy much more closely than does Joseph Smith in most of the examples of "false prophecies" cited by the critics. How, then, can Latter-day Saints accept both Joseph Smith and Moses as true prophets, regarding their prophecies as divinely-inspired? The answer lies in the fact that prophecy is typically conditional.
Some of the critics have included "unreasonable" prophecies in their lists of false prophetic utterances by Joseph Smith. The subjective nature of such a determination makes this procedure unacceptable. What is "unreasonable" to one person may be perfectly acceptable to another.
For example, the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah "contradicted" each other concerning an essential point, and yet were both right. Ezekiel had prophesied that king Zedekiah would go to Babylon but never see it (Ezekiel 12:13), while his contemporary Jeremiah prophesied that Hezekiah would be taken captive to Babylon (Jeremiah 32:5). But, in the end, both prophets proved true, for Zedekiah indeed went captive into Babylon, but did not see the city, for he had been blinded (2 Kings 25:7).
Thus, we see that prophecies "impossible" of fulfillment have, in the course of time, proven true. Joseph Smith deserves at least the same kind of consideration.
Jesus had said, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you" (Matthew 5:11-12).
Indeed, the earlier prophets had been persecuted. Jeremiah was placed in the stocks (Jeremiah 20:1-3), arrested and brought to trial (Jeremiah 26:8-24), later imprisoned (Jeremiah 32:2; 33:1; 37:15-21), and even placed in a miry dungeon to die (Jeremiah 38:6-8). Daniel was placed in the lion's den, but survived the ordeal through divine intervention (Daniel 6:16-23).
The apostles Peter and John were thrice arrested, once imprisoned, and once beaten (Acts 4:1-21; 5:17-19, 26-41). Another apostle, James, was executed (Acts 12:1-2), after which Peter was again arrested and imprisoned (Acts 12:3-10).
The apostle Paul was similarly mistreated by the populace and by government officials. Once, he was stoned by a mob and left for dead (Acts 14:19-20). He and Silas were both whipped and imprisoned (Acts 16:22-26). He wrote that he had been beaten five times by the Jews, thrice beaten with rods, and once stoned (2 Corinthians 11:24).
On his last trip to Jerusalem, some sought to kill him (Acts 21:31; 23:12-22). He was then arrested and led from one prison to another over several years, without trial (Acts 22-28) until, according to tradition, he and Peter were executed by order of the emperor Nero.
If the person receiving the instructions failed to comply, then the "prophecy," according to the critics, is proven false. By this reasoning, even God himself is a false prophet, for Lot's wife disobeyed him and looked back at the city of Sodom (Genesis 19:17, 26). Cain sinned even after the Lord had told him, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door" (Genesis 4:7).
Wow. That was alot of convincing.... but I;m still not convinced. There is a difference between anointed men and Prophets. The true Prophets never made claims that did not come to pass. Name some if you believe this to be untrue."Blessed are those who are persecuted in my name" said Jesus.... J. Smith was persecuted by his own accord. By claiming to be greater than our Lord Jesus Christ. This will never jive with a Christian.
Mormons.. stop knockin on my door on a saturday. I know you really don't care bout what happens to my soul so stop acting like it and let me get my sleep. stop following false prophets u mormons. Your prophecies u received are false while ours were fulfilled 100% the way it was goin to pass. no mombo jumbo b.s. wording that makes you say "huh?" i rather die than denounce Jesus as my Lord and savior, as son of the true living God, and one with God.
There are dozens of versions of the bible at bible dot com. The easiest to read and understand in the New International Version. Read it with the American Standard version and the King James version. This will give you a clear picture of what GOD is saying. Remember, Jesus rose from the grave so HE is alive today. Ask Jesus to guide you in bible study.
Conimahoni,Jesus was not the messiah until He completed the death and the resurection from the grave 3 days later. By the way, it is not 2 days until Good Friday like almost all other churches teach. Jesus rose from the grave 3 full 24 hour days after sundown on Wednesday which makes good Friday non exsistant. He rose after sundown on saturday.
Joseph Smith, his uncle and other relatives were run out of Palmyra, New York becuase they were caught counterfeiting money. That is why they went west, because the reputation of him and his family were ruined. God would not choose a criminal to start a church.
hmm.. so what your saying is when they put Christ to death because he was accused as a criminal it means God didn't choose Christ? WOW - you are really confused. In addition Prophets throughout the bible were considered criminals and killed for it, just like Joseph Smith. Oh by they way, Joseph Smith said his name would be known for good and evil throughout the entire world, and he said it when he was 15 years old. I guess we all know he was right.
Until I researched the mormon doctrine,I had no idea really what mormons beleived, We must be EXTEMELY careful with mormons, Now that I've read and researched even into the life of joe smith,without any doubt,the mormon doctrine is satanic, from start to present...
37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Notably the sun and the moon are representative of the degrees of glory. And a thousand years is a period of time after the second coming when those who are still mortal shall be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye.
Joseph Smith is a Prophet of Almighty God and one day you will know it. Did Christ falsely prophesy when he said to the malefactor on the cross that he shall be with him in paradise this day? As true as Christs words are so are the word of His prophet Joseph Smith for they all shall be fulfilled.
dat scripture is the old testament. of course we can hear God. He speaks thru many ways. so do u know this? we r living in the times of the New Testament. the covenant in the old testament was finished by Jesus' death on the cross. did ur dear mr joseph smith know this truth?
the book of mormon was from God Himself?? dude, please. well about him the prophet of satan, its the TRUTH. i emphasise once again it is the TRUTH, not the FACT. last prophet? the last prophet was Jesus. well dun get me wrong, He was called a Prophet too, and Son of God too. well wad kind of prophesies does your dear mr joseph smith have?
"issuesrgood"- if Joseph Smith was a prophet of Satan then why did he write: "Pray always that ye may come off conquorer, yea, that you may conquer Satan." (D&C 10) and in Joseph Smith History he writes that he was aware at an early age that he would become an annoyer and destroyer of his (Satans) kingdom? Joseph Smith was a prophet of God! He restored the true church of God to the earth! Praise to the Man who commune with Jehovah!
hahahahaha u r funny. i also commune with God everyday. does dat make u worship me? im sure u r confused now. well i dun want u to worship me, but praise Jesus. not to the man. joseph smith was a mere man and he doesnt deserve the capital letter.
THEY said that Jesus Christ was a blasphemer, that he had a devil, and they used "the law" (the scriptures) to condemn him. They accused him falsely. They said all manner of falsehoods about him, yet it didn't change the fact that HE was the very Son of God. Think about it.
tylerkit you say that j smith is a prophet of satan, is that fact or your opinion? Oh
yeah, I never said smith was above jesus, I said he was the last prophet, look up the definition of prophet before you open your mouth next time, loose lips sink ships.
no matter what any one says? That statement itself shows a level of close mindedness and gullibility found only in fundmental evangelical and mormon circles...
Joseph Smith was run out of town from Palmyra , New York with his uncle and other relatives because they were counterfitting money. A biblecal prophet can never be wrong according to the bible. Every mormon leader has given wrong prophecies. Therefore they are not from GOD.
Your facts are wrong, Joseph worked in a mine, hence why he is called a 'gold digger', How do you even know what a false prophecy is, are you capable of understanding the will and terms of god himself...by the definition you give, christ himself was a fals prophet
....because even mormons will tell you, their doctrine isn't finished, there COULD be more (False) doctrine from the mormons, IF Anyone Beleives The Bible,IT'S Impossible to beleive the Lie from satan,which is the mormon doctrine in it's entirity
Hello all Joseph Smith here on Kolob, I just wanted to let my followers know that I am a false prophet, there were no golden plates, no vision in the woods, it was all a hoax. The demon Moroni was in on it with me. You can blame him.
If it's a hoax its the best one the world has ever seen there double dopey. Prophecies are still being fulfilled today, obviously joseph has no control over what happens now, yet its happening. Think before you speak doofy
Have you asked God if it is from satan for many accused Christ of repeling demons by the power of satan. Soloman said a wize man cociders the whole matter befor making judgement. something worth considering.
Paul saw the saviour after that instruction was given. The Book of Mormon is not in opposition to the Bible. It is a second witness that Jesus Lives for in the mouth of two or more witnesses shall every word be established
Respectfully, I'd have to disagree with you on the bom, it seems to me, and taking into account of joe smith's documented character and history,it's no more than a fabrication and embellishment of The Bible
Sorry, LauraGalway I accidently clicked the spam button so I clicked one off my own. I understand you may have you own view though I share another. thanks for your comment.
What character? The man who was persecuted unrelentlessly and never fought back against his perpertrators. Or who labored for god his whole life and never gained a lick of worldy satisfaction. His work goes forth even after hes gone, lets see you set up a work of this magnitude and have it prosper for 200 years!
Placing your face in your hat,with magic stones in it, and telling someone's fortune...What does that sound like? It smells of spirtualism and seance, I beleive joe smith DID see an angel,BUT it was OF satan
Many times in the bible prophest used things for desifering the Lords will such as casting lots and jacob used wool and the sign of dry or dew to know the will of God. it was acceptible to inquire this way because they had the faith whereas to ask for a sign with no faith is a sin.
Check out the rebuttle to the lies and half truths of this video at FairLDS dot Org. Type the name of this video Joesph Smith/Jesus Christ in the search bar and you will get a line by line rebuttle to this propaganda hit piece. It clearly exposes this for what it is. It is well worth seeing if you are honestly looking for balance in what you are seeing here.
Check out the rebuttle to the lies and half truths of this video. at FairLDS dot Org. Type the name of this video in the search bar and you will get a line by line rebuttle to this poorly researched hit piece.
I wish ADAMSETHSMITH watched this video, that guy promotes his Joseph Smith IDOL worhip is very discusting. Even when one reads the BOM what relevance does it have? why would Jesus need to go to America when he embodied a ministry at the proper time? Oh and When did one ever read about the Hebrew passover, oh not there, why not perhaps it not true.
@MRMdotORG -This generation doesn't mean what it means today. You can see evidence of this throughout the Bible. Just because you don't understand the Gospel doesn't mean Joseph Smith isn't a true prophet. You will be eating your words soon enough when the temple will be built and completed in Jackson County, MO. You make think the prophecy is past time but its not. The rest of this is just lies and Satanic Anti-Mormon hate speech. Good luck explaining yourselves in the judgment. Woe unto you.
rockstarMileyCyrus 6 months ago
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CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
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CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
@rockstarMileyCyrus Good luck explaining why we don't believe in Quaker-like men on the moon?? Good luck in explaining why the sciences completely discredit The Book of Mormon?? Good luck in in explaining why we dare to challenge LDS's teachings and writings through objective analysis and critical scrutiny?? Good luck in exposing the false & failed prophecies of Joseph SmYth?? Good luck in exposing LDS's spending money on forged documents, and LDS's lies about having possession of them??
CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
@CounterCultureLives - Hey tool of Satan. Men on moon? I've never seen one science field discredit the Book of Mormon. You can challenge God and his servants all you want. You will get the same result Satan and his minions get and have gotten through the centuries. I hope you keep analyzing things the way your supposed to because if you do you will come to know the truth. None of Joseph Smith's prophecies have failed yet. But I sure can list off dozens upon dozens that have come true.
rockstarMileyCyrus 5 months ago
@rockstarMileyCyrus Right!! There really ARE Quaker-like men on the moon. God just concealed them from the astronauts because they weren't righteous enough to see them!!
DAYUMMMMM!! You Mobots are entertaining!!
CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
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@rockstarMileyCyrus Our Profit, Joseph SmYth accurately predicted that the year 1827 would come AFTER 1826, and BEFORE 1828. He ALSO predicted that the third Sunday in March would come BEFORE the fourth Sunday in March, and AFTER the second Sunday in March. What more evidence do you need??
The man was a TRUE PROFIT!!
I KNOW The Book of Mormon is true!!
CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
@CounterCultureLives - Hey Tool of Satan. The liar here is you. Not the prophet Joseph Smith. You can rant and rave like a satanic fool all you want but the church of God will continue to grow and strengthen itself despite your puny foolish rants. Good luck pretending the church does everything you claim it does. I'll just continue to believe the Holy Ghost as it witnesses the truth of what the LDS prophets say. More and more of their prophecies come true day after day. Now repent fool.
rockstarMileyCyrus 5 months ago
@rockstarMileyCyrus Nice little cyber-rant you have going here..... all without the least bit of substance.
CounterCultureLives 5 months ago
lies lies lies - stop the bs TOOLS of SATAN
rockstarMileyCyrus 6 months ago
I feel bad for those mormons they have no idea how there views look to a outsider.
wachnathan 8 months ago
How come there is not a single serious proof of the actual, historical existence of this "Jesus" you talk about ?!
ScipiondeFrance 9 months ago
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I find it funny how they only allow Protestant scholars to be interviewed. If this documentary were worth anything, it would let Mormon scholars speak for themselves and articulate their beliefs rather than allow people at conflict with Mormon theology to say, "this is what they believe and this is why it's wrong."
NorthwestResistance 1 year ago
In this generation? "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." - Jesus Why do you not hold Jesus to the same standard as you hold Joseph Smith?
beachtalk 1 year ago
@beachtalk ....A great expansion of Knowledge, the Gospel shall be preached in all nations. It's the generation that sees all these things....Read Mathew 24 again. The whole chapter. He is describing the last generation, not the ones he was talking to then.
shadapple 1 year ago
@beachtalk Because you don't understand the Bible. He was not talking to THAT generation, he was talking about the generation that witnesses the things described in the end days. All the false prophets, false teachers, the parable of the fig tree, After the Jews regain their land, the stars shall fall from Heaven, the moon shall not give her light (it will be blood red), the Heavens shall peel back like a scroll. He was talking that THIS generation that sees these things. Not THAT generation....
shadapple 1 year ago
@beachtalk That is a reference to his resurrection sir.
SupremeAmerican 1 year ago
Joseph Smith was another phony Jim Jones. Inhabitants living on the sun?? Come on......this has got to be embarrassing to educated members of this cult.
Numenor73 2 years ago
I don't really believe that the book of mormon says there are people on the moon since the documentary doesn't site the verse.
rosiechatinenglish 2 years ago
It does make a citation, look at the bottom of the screen.
WalkAwake 1 year ago
@rosiechatinenglish The Book of Mormon doesn't say people inhabit the moon.
The video cites the passages where Joseph Smith said this:
Young Women's Journal, Vol. 3 pp. 263-264
Patriarchal Blessings Books 9:294-295
wannawatchu66 1 year ago
Mosiah 27:25 Marvel not that all mankind, yea men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousnous, being redeemed of God, becoming His sons and daughters, thus saith the LORD.
LDSTrueChurch 2 years ago
No Proof? And why do YOu think this? There is proof of both books. You should try doing research.
John L Sorenson PhD Anthropology, Daniel C. Peterson PhD Arabic, Egyptian, religious antiquities, John Clark PhD Archaeology.
You should read texts by these men. They have texts that show clearly the correlation between the book of Mormon and the history of the Central American Cultures.
They show artwork and artifacts in their texts.
NephiProjectDOTcom
FAIRLDSdotORG
LDSTrueChurch 2 years ago
Is that because you only have 2 left from all the heavy partying you do? I thought so.
Anyone with half a brain would disagree with you.
TheNephiProject only uses facts and science making all things plausible. Which all things are plausible to God.
LDSTrueChurch 2 years ago
Hugh Nibley is correct and your assumptions remain only assumptions. You haven't even attempted to read his work, so you have nothing to do but quote from Anti-Mormon sources. nice try grnmessiah
LDSTrueChurch 2 years ago
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. Hugh Nibley commenting on our research (Nov 7, 2003), "...After this, those who challenge the Book of Mormon will have some heavy explaining to do."
jefflindsay . com
fairlds . org
All the new evidence pointing to geography and physical evidence found since 2003 makes the Smithsonian Institutes Statement of 1996 about obsolete.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leads its church by revelation just as the true church ever has.
LDSTrueChurch 2 years ago
Truth is never a waste
gdvibes1 2 years ago
Why people would waste their valuable time trying to hurt others and demean their faith is beyond me.
adrian1167 3 years ago
Mormonism = Cult. Not as funny as Scientology but then again what is.
TheJudasEffect 3 years ago 2
Your all wrong. There is no god.
pugslunch 3 years ago
What's that faith based on?
samtorrance5590 3 years ago
Okey let's not waste our time arguing WHO'S WHO GAME at this point in time.The Lord Jesus will WEED OUT HIMSELF ..ALL quackery(bogusness/Falseness?pretenders)save your energy for LJC wanted each one of you to be used by HIM,NOT to promote your own agendas and will nor to promote one's self(popolarity with men)limelight but TRULY SERVE the people in need of your help.SERVICE TO OTHERS is what LJC wants from us not others servicing us.
It is high time focusing ON what GOD wants & not we want.
Theysee35 3 years ago
NOT true, NON LDS scholars do agree with the LDS on many points.
doesn 't really matter, I'm having YOUTUBE take your stupid slanderous crap videos down once and for good...
These videos are INACCURATE propaganda and complete exxagerations or misleading quotes taken out of text. These people are wolves in Sheep clothing.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Riiiight. This video is completely false and everything the LDS says is true. The wolf in sheep's clothing was Joseph Smith. If you looked at the evidence ojectively and without bias you would see that. However you choose to have your blinders on a see and do what makes you feel good instead of what God calls us to do - BELIEVE in the one whom He has sent. Jesus is our ONE and ONLY God. You think He is our spirit brother. Oh and by the way, these videos are not going anywhere.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
1808 Joseph is taught to love God with all his heart.
1816 The bible is studied in Smiths Palmyra/Manchester, New York home.
Sept. 1823 Joseph reflected more deeply than his peers about everything of a RELIGIOUS NATURE.
Nov. 1823 Joseph tells his mother he likes to go read his bible in the woods.
Nov. 1823-24 Joseph provides his family with "Religious teachings."
1823-1827 Joseph gives his brother William "frequent lectures" on religion.
you're so full of dookie
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
THE TRUTH OF GOD WILL SPEAK FOR ITSELF..for ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.
Theysee35 3 years ago
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Both created new scripture
Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible
Both taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions
Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives.
Both taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last.
Both gave false prophecy
funnrun 2 years ago
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Both created new scripture
Both prophets held up their own scripture as superior to the Bible
Both taught that true salvation was to be found only in their respective religions
Both prophets encountered fierce opposition to their new religions and had to flee from town to town because of threats on their lives.
Both taught that Jesus was just another of a long line of human prophets, of which he was the last.
Both gave false prophecy
funnrun 2 years ago
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Joseph Smith RE- wrote the Bible (Inspired Version, ) and wrote the Book of Mormon, as did Mohamad wrote the Koran!,
But there are some very interesting things about Joe & Mohamed most LDS don't know!
Both claimed to be Prophets
Both claimed of having angel visitations
Both claimed of receiving divine revelation to restore pure religion to the earth again.
funnrun 2 years ago
The only liars are LDS prophets, apostles and leaders.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
FARMS - False Allegations Regarding Mormon Studies
FAIR - Fraudulent Apologetic for an Illusive Religion
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
The Nephiproject is selling a full blown DVD that shows the exact trail in which Lehi, Ishmail and their sons and daughters went thru the old world. The archaeology has been verified.
The church of Jesus Christ in this last dispensation is the true church, endowed with power and authority tracable to the Lord God, Jesus christ.
fairlds . org
jefflindsay . com
nephiproject . com
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
lol. Is that why the LDS Church still, to this day, refuses to claim any of these sites official LDS Holy Sites?
There is no evidence to support any of these sites as being from the Book of Mormon. FARMS and FAIR have NO credibility... NONE!
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
FAIR and FARMS are comprised of PHD's in fields of study.
Non LDS scholars even agree with arguements and data released in the last 20 years showing your arguements are obsolete.
you have no credibility... NONE!
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
They are PHD's in mormonism and biased in their studies and non-LDS scholars do NOT agree with them. You're either a liar or just ignorant.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
They are PHD's in Genetics, Anthropology, and PROFESSIONAL studies and are leading their fields of study, idiot. Get a clue.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Are these the same "experts" who claim that Native Americans are descendents of Israelites? Outside of the mormon church, this is NOT an issue. No one ... NO ONE is debating this. Your so-called experts would be laughed out of the building in an independent room of experts. Have you watched the Lost Book of Abraham video yet? Right there is PROOF that J Smith was a fraud. They brought out the Egyptologists from the U of Chicago and he dubunked the whole thing. Your religion is false.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
Those Egyptologists are idiots and their stupid assertion is wrong. Other NON LDS Egyptologists have proven the ones you're talking about wrong.
Your religion is false.
The Church of Jesus Christ is true.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
haha. Sure they are. University of Chicago = Idiots? LOL. You obviously lack any common sense, and for the record, you are not the Church of Jesus Christ. You don't even know what the Biblical understanding of the church is.
You are Latter Day Saints, just another 19th century cult with probably 100 denominations of its own, each claiming they have the correct prophet. That's why we just add you to the list with JW's, Scientologists, Christian Science and other cults.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
and your old arguements are obsolete.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Actually, no they're not. I don't know whether to pity you or laugh at you for your ignorance. You have nothing to offer as far as opinions or rebuttal to any charge against the cult that you are a part of.
Just repeating the phrases "we are the truth" or "that's anti-mormon" doesn't change the reality that your false religion was founded on the fraudulent claims and practices of Joseph Smith and the gullible. All cult leaders find some dummies to lead. I guess you're just one of them.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
"and your old arguements are obsolete."
OK, prove it?
Is the Theory of Gravity obsolete? After all, it's 400 years old!!!!!
fubecabr 3 years ago
"Those Egyptologists are idiots and their stupid assertion is wrong. Other NON LDS Egyptologists have proven the ones you're talking about wrong."
Has it a name? Will you give it to me?
It's not really lying, as long as it's for the Lord, right?
fubecabr 3 years ago
My wife drives me nuts some times,but if I had 30 wives I would probly see men on the moon dressed like quakers,so I can understand him with that.
gdvibes1 3 years ago
I am LDS but that was Funny!
germans1 3 years ago
You guys have graduated in the University of Ignorance.
strikerhiryu 3 years ago
The bible is true but it has no authority neither you false preachers. God himself gave authority to Joseph. Be careful with you're saying, you're wrong...
strikerhiryu 3 years ago
The glory of the stars, the moon and the sun. Jesus already came to earth so He can teach and give autority to His servant Joseph, but He's about to come to judge nations. You guys don't understand the word and you're changing it the word for your own profit.
May God have mercy of you, becouse you're stoning a true prophet. You're guys are the false prophets and teachers.
I know that Jesuschrist lives and Joseph Smith is with Him in glory. See you guys at the tribunal of Christ.
strikerhiryu 3 years ago
THE SPIRITOFTRUTHLIVESIN ME.THE SPIRITOF TRUTHDOES NOT LIVE IN THE HEARTOFTHE LDSPPL THEY DONT KNOWTHE TRUTH ABOUTGOD .ALLTHEY NO IS WHAT JS ORTHE PROPHETS OF THE CHURCH SAID.THEYTHINK THERE CHURCH IS TRUE BUT A TRUE CHURCH OF GOD IS UNDER THE ATHORITY OF THE HOLY BIBLE AS/IT written and no other book is needed b/c God made his book to tell all humans the truth about Him and how to make it to his heaven.GODISTRUTHISPEFECTIS HOLY AND HIS HOLY BIBLE IS THE SAME.
102303113 3 years ago
OF THE MANY LDS PPL I HAVE WITNESSED TOO THEY TRULY BELEIVE THAT THEY ARE WALKING IN TRUTH OF GOD AND KNOW MORE ABOUT gOD AND JESUS CHRIST THEY 100% TRUST JS AND REJECT THE WORDS BY GOD as it is writeen in the Holy Bible TRANLATION IN THE BIBLE ARE NOT CORRECT YET THEY DONT SEE A TRANSLATION PROBLEM IN THE BOM????? OR THE MANY CHAGED TRANLATION JS HAD. HE LOOKED INTOA HAT THAT IS NOT REVEALED BY GOD.
102303113 3 years ago
jOSEPH SMITH IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD THEN WHEN HE BEGAN HIS CHURCH AND TODAY IT IS SAD THAT PPL FALL FOR HIS UNBIBLICAL CLAIMS ABOUT GOD
102303113 3 years ago
"For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country."
Joseph Smith Jr., the founder of the Mormon Church, whose 1844 presidential campaign is historically notable not only because it was the first one in which the candidate was assassinated.
Announcing his candidacy Jan. 29, 1844, Smith told his supporters, "Tell the people we have had Whig and Democrat presidents long enough. We want a president of the United States."
The truth is Anti Mormon
splitspeeds 3 years ago
1891: THe Mormons Incorporated the UTES into Mormonism and Freemasonry. This is the Source of THE GHOST DANCE. The massacre at Wounded Knee can be laid at the door of the MOrmon Hierarchy because they instigated the myth of the Ghost Dance with its "1891 is the end of the world" and the forced march and their murder. (and who knows, maybe some of those utes were at the mountain meadows massacre and needed to be used up)
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
joseph smith was a fraud and since i was born into the church, i know that members conveniently forget or avoid certain topics that are taboo.
members will tell you they are the fastest growing church on earth when the assemblies of god,pentecostals and seventh day adventists all have and still do grow much faster in a shorter amount of time.
why do the prophets continue to lie? more importantly, why do the mormons knowingly continue to believe the lies?
faith is a cancer. wake up.
aikhooligan 3 years ago
J. Smith's "prophecy" about Quakers on the Moon always struck me weird... I mean was he insulting us calling us aliens?
a Quaker...
themistoklisp 3 years ago
how about his civil war prophesy? He had a very active imagination and was charismatic. He was also willing to use his abilities for evil.
cowdragon 3 years ago
this is ridiculous. do we go around attacking your church when we don't know what we're talking about? anyone who is watching this, at the very least get both sides of the story before you judge anything. Actually, no, get the facts instead of misinterpreted scripture. this movie is wrong, and if i had the time I would go through and contest every point. don't get an opinion until you hear what a lds view from a reiable mormon source. otherwise, your opinion would be bias and prejudice.
Acewall 3 years ago
are missionaries a reliable source? Because they didn't deny these things when I brought them up.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
The Bible teaches that the gospel will be taught by the 'weak and simple things of the earth'. LDS missionaries come from very varied intellectual up-bringings. For answers and Mormon perspective to these types of questions visit Jeff Lindsay's LDS website.
portrait1 3 years ago
Jeff Lindsay is a dunce. I've spoken to him. Talk about a man who lacks any and all ability to listen to reason and common sense. His ideas and explanations are laughed out of both Christian and scientific classrooms.
FAITHandLOGIC 3 years ago
Do not compare Smith to Jesus, You fools just like muhammad he went and forced himself to have a revelation and what do you know an angel came named maroone, yea nice try smith but christ preavails
June821 3 years ago 2
inhabitants on the sun, BAHAHAHHAHA. what a joke.
royce555 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAH, Quaker people on the moon, this is hilarious.
royce555 3 years ago
god bless joseph smith and may bless you buddy, go in peace!
mysanitysgone 3 years ago
Simple question to the group: What is the final revelation from God called in Christianity?
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
Why do I ask? Simple: Because if you find that God's Holy Book is the last revelation to man (This is implied in the rule where you aren't supposed to add to or take from what has been given - in the bible) then there is NO MORE NEED FOR A PROPHET to relay a message. So why then does the book of mormon exist, and why a new prophet? If you are a Christian then you believe what has been written - that Joseph Simth is NOT a prophet but claims to be so. That is the very definition of a false prophet
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
"Coming of the Lord" Joseph said according to the rest of the 11 apostles that the lord would not come for at least 56 years not "in 56 years". You're incorrect again :D
Seriously guys out of hundreds of pages of "prophecy" as you say, you only find these few historical inaccuracies and misquotes? That's proof enough for me, I'm joining the Church of Jesus Christ, the one and only.
ahburner 3 years ago
"Men on the Moon" Matthew 5 says there will be many lies said about Christ's people, this is one of the lies people say Joseph said.
"Temple being built" the error in this quote is "in this generation", which is incorrect and what someone 'thought they heard him say'.
"Next spring mission" is a commandment, not a "prophecy". The Doctrine and Covenants was before that time known as the "Book of Commandments" 'Thou shalt not kill' many kill but it doesn't make Moses not a prophet.
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ahburner 3 years ago
jesus christ THE major false prophet and pain in the ass
moonchild011 3 years ago
totally agree. it's easy to make prophesies about destroyed temples years after they were destroyed. the 'gospels' were written after 70ad. but retarded christians are to stupid and gullible to investigate.
faustus999 3 years ago
Agreed - it is easy to write history and pass it off as prophecy, but whats even more funny about that prophesy is that he wailing wall still stands - stone upon stone and the wailing wall is the western wall portion of the original temple, which means their history was wrong too! LOL.
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
Yes, it is easy to pass history off as prophesy, especially when a particular group is trying to develop a communal [or national/relious] identity for the future generations to follow. What is so very funny about the prophecy of the temple being destroyed [made by Y'shua] is the that wailing wall, which is part of the temple still stands millenia later, stone on top of stone. That very prophecy means that either A] Y'shua is a fasle prophet or B] that the bible is NOT innerant.
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
The wailing wall was actually the wall of the outer courtyard of the temple. It wasn't a wall of the temple itself.
bytebear 3 years ago
sorry about the repeat post. 8)
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
the most credulous fools on this earth are the religious
faustus999 3 years ago
Good try, Joseph Smith. You were a prophet. A false one, that is.
alwaysriteneverwrong 3 years ago
at 6:15, the JS prophecy of 1891 is what led to the ghost dance: the Mormon Hierarchy approached and probably drugged wakara and this interaction with the Utes and Mormons led to THE GHOST DANCE> the mormons are responsible for the murders at Wounded Knee.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
MORMONS ROCK!!
numbertwoproductions 3 years ago
@1:45 This gentleman obviously hasn't realized that the wailing wall respresents a part of the temple that has stood for millenia - the wailing wall is proof against Y'shuas prophecy...
StephenWebb1980 4 years ago
the wailing wall is part of the foundation of the temple , not part of the temple.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
A foundation is an integral part of any building, and is thus still concidered PART of the temple - and as such ALL WALLS are concidered foundation for roofing - needless to say, WALLS still define the boundaties of buildings, so the wailing WALL is a part of the temple still standing. - The prophecy states that there would not be ONE STONE STANDING UPON ANOTHER, foundation or not - if you look at the wailing WALL you see that it consists of MANY stones standing upon each other. Nice Try.
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
Actually, the wailing wall was an outside wall of the courtyard. It was not a wall or foundation of the temple proper. It would be equivilant to the wall around Temple Square.
bytebear 3 years ago
But as such, the prophesy states that the temple would be completely destroyed - temple proper, and temple square, since certain worshipers were not allowed in the temple proper, they had to worship in the temple proper which would still constitute the out boundary of the temple complex as a whole. So even the temple proper would still be concidered part and place of the temple as a whole - the wall did after all define its boundaries much the same way a wall defines the boundary of a house.
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
*Err I meant certain worshipers had to worship in the temple square. And the walls around the temple square still count as an integral part of the temple as people could give prayer therein.
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
That's what I was thinking too, they can't use that :D
ahburner 3 years ago
Maybe I should make up a religion too. Joseph Smith was a smart man. Maybe his parents didn't show him enough attention. He's a really cool fiction writer though, too bad they didn't have TV back then, he'd have given Gene Roddenberry a run for his money. But seriously guys, how can a person believe in something so obviously contrived...by a proven liar no less. I feel sorry for you. Mitt Romney sucks! Ron Paul '08!!!
ghostgate82 4 years ago
I like Mitt Romney, I like many lds nice folks. I disagree with the beliefs a lot of the time but very nice people.
godschzngirl 3 years ago
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I Think Jesus Was the last Prophet. The last we will Ever Need.
LAINESANDER 4 years ago
The Lord works in mysterious ways. It looks like He has the makers of this video bamboozled.
revelations146 4 years ago
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The 8 WITNESSES HELD THE PLATES, AND TURNED THE GOLD LEAF PAGES AND WERE AWED BY IT'S SPLENDOR. THE 3 SAW THE PLATES HELD BY MORONI HIMSELF AND BORE WITNESS THAT THEY SAW IT. THEY TOOK THAT WITNESS TO THEIR GRAVES. (EVEN MARTIN HARRIS THAT FELL AWAY DUE TO PRIDE) BUT the stupid anti's asked Martin to deny it, he refused for he wouldn't bring judgement of the ALMIGHTY on his head.
SORRY IDIOT ANTI-LDS. THE CHURCH IS TRUE!
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
This completely sickens me. just about every line in here was misinterpreted and if a 17 year old can understand what the writings are better then these grown men. They should not be put in front of a camera. if you have questions aobut how any of this is false. ask me. i'll be more then happy to respond.
xlocness 4 years ago
In 1823, seventeen-year-old Joseph Smith was told by the angel Moroni that: "God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people." (Joseph Smith History 1:33.)
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
How does Mormonism defend itself against Duet. 18:21-22?
Are these Mormon prophecies still waiting to be fulfilled or were they just proof that God did not use JS as His mouthpiece?
idris09 4 years ago
That scripture also shows the canon (Bible)is complete because the prophets taught that the messiah would bring a New Convenant to the Earth and complete Gods plan of salvation.
AarmOZ 4 years ago
Joseph Smith also boasted he did a greater work then all other prophets. He even states, "Not even the apostles, not even Jesus could keep the church together, I am greater then all!" Do you believe Joseph Smith is greater then Christ, the Messiah?
AarmOZ 4 years ago
Here, the Lord describes both the false prophet and the false prophecy. A false prophet either speaks for false gods or attributes to the Lord things that the Lord did not command him to speak. The Deuteronomy 18 passage establishes two criteria for a false prophecy:
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
It must be uttered in the name of the Lord. This means that an off-the-wall comment by a prophet cannot be taken as a prophecy, pretended or otherwise, unless he declares that he is delivering the word of the Lord.
The prophecy must fail. But no timeframe is established for the fulfillment of a prophecy.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
The Deuteronomy passage does not say that a man is a false prophet because his prophecy failed, only that the failed prophecy is false. This being the case, it is incorrect to conclude, as most critics do, that one false prophecy (even if some true prophecies are given) makes Joseph Smith a false prophet. The danger in so defining the Deuteronomy passage lies in the fact that there is a tendency on the part of non-believers to "explain away" the prophecy, while believers seek ways to defend it.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Thus, the process of determining the truth or falseness of a prophecy becomes, to some extent, subjective.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Consequently, a critic of Joseph Smith can look at a hundred of his prophecies, find one that, in his judgment, is in error, and thereby conclude that Joseph himself was a false prophet. That this has, in fact, happened with true prophets is evidenced in the Bible itself, where we read Jesus' statement about the stoning and rejection of the ancient prophets of Israel (Matthew 23:37). These men were undoubtedly stoned because, in the judgment of their contemporaries, they were false prophets.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
A good example of the rejection of a prophet is the story of Jeremiah, who was imprisoned and mistreated by the leaders of Judah, who refused to believe his message.
President Joseph Fielding Smith, commenting on the passage from Deuteronomy 18, wrote,
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
When is a prophet a prophet? whenever he speaks under the inspiration and influence of the Holy Ghost... When prophets write and speak on the principles of the gospel, they should have the guidance of the Spirit. If they do, then all that they say will be in harmony with the revealed word. If they are in harmony then we know that they have not spoken presumptuously.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Should a man speak or write, and what he says is in conflict with the standards which are accepted, with the revelations the Lord has given, then we may reject what he has said, no matter who he is. ( Doctrines of Salvation 1:187)
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Based on the false premise that "all you need is one false prophecy to have a false prophet," some critics have ignored many of Joseph Smith's prophecies and have zeroed in on ones they consider to be false. But they typically identify unfulfilled commandments, opinions, and counsel as "false prophecies."
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
In doing so, they forsake the rules laid out in Deuteronomy 18:20-22, ignoring the fact that the passage defines a false prophecy as one uttered in the name of the Lord which does not come to pass.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
The main problem is that the critics do not apply these same standards to biblical prophecies. And when we try to show that, by these standards, many of the biblical prophets fail the tests they have set up for Joseph Smith, we are accused of "Bible-slamming." To those who ascribe more divinity to the Bible than to God, such a "sin" is worse than blasphemy itself. Honesty, however, impels us to submit the biblical prophets to the same tests as those applied to Joseph Smith.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
For this reason, following the logic of the critics, we would have to conclude that Moses-to whom the revelation in Deuteronomy 18:20-22 is ascribed-was a false prophet. In Numbers 25:13, he said, in the name of the Lord, that Phinehas, his grand nephew, would hold the priesthood eternally. But if Hebrews 7:11-12 is correct, the Aaronic priesthood is not eternal.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
In this particular example, Moses fills the requirement for the test of Deuteronomy much more closely than does Joseph Smith in most of the examples of "false prophecies" cited by the critics. How, then, can Latter-day Saints accept both Joseph Smith and Moses as true prophets, regarding their prophecies as divinely-inspired? The answer lies in the fact that prophecy is typically conditional.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Some of the critics have included "unreasonable" prophecies in their lists of false prophetic utterances by Joseph Smith. The subjective nature of such a determination makes this procedure unacceptable. What is "unreasonable" to one person may be perfectly acceptable to another.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
For example, the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah "contradicted" each other concerning an essential point, and yet were both right. Ezekiel had prophesied that king Zedekiah would go to Babylon but never see it (Ezekiel 12:13), while his contemporary Jeremiah prophesied that Hezekiah would be taken captive to Babylon (Jeremiah 32:5). But, in the end, both prophets proved true, for Zedekiah indeed went captive into Babylon, but did not see the city, for he had been blinded (2 Kings 25:7).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Thus, we see that prophecies "impossible" of fulfillment have, in the course of time, proven true. Joseph Smith deserves at least the same kind of consideration.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Jesus had said, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you" (Matthew 5:11-12).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Indeed, the earlier prophets had been persecuted. Jeremiah was placed in the stocks (Jeremiah 20:1-3), arrested and brought to trial (Jeremiah 26:8-24), later imprisoned (Jeremiah 32:2; 33:1; 37:15-21), and even placed in a miry dungeon to die (Jeremiah 38:6-8). Daniel was placed in the lion's den, but survived the ordeal through divine intervention (Daniel 6:16-23).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
The apostles Peter and John were thrice arrested, once imprisoned, and once beaten (Acts 4:1-21; 5:17-19, 26-41). Another apostle, James, was executed (Acts 12:1-2), after which Peter was again arrested and imprisoned (Acts 12:3-10).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
The apostle Paul was similarly mistreated by the populace and by government officials. Once, he was stoned by a mob and left for dead (Acts 14:19-20). He and Silas were both whipped and imprisoned (Acts 16:22-26). He wrote that he had been beaten five times by the Jews, thrice beaten with rods, and once stoned (2 Corinthians 11:24).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
On his last trip to Jerusalem, some sought to kill him (Acts 21:31; 23:12-22). He was then arrested and led from one prison to another over several years, without trial (Acts 22-28) until, according to tradition, he and Peter were executed by order of the emperor Nero.
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
If the person receiving the instructions failed to comply, then the "prophecy," according to the critics, is proven false. By this reasoning, even God himself is a false prophet, for Lot's wife disobeyed him and looked back at the city of Sodom (Genesis 19:17, 26). Cain sinned even after the Lord had told him, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door" (Genesis 4:7).
CatholicsRantiGods 4 years ago
Wow. That was alot of convincing.... but I;m still not convinced. There is a difference between anointed men and Prophets. The true Prophets never made claims that did not come to pass. Name some if you believe this to be untrue."Blessed are those who are persecuted in my name" said Jesus.... J. Smith was persecuted by his own accord. By claiming to be greater than our Lord Jesus Christ. This will never jive with a Christian.
idris09 4 years ago
Mormons.. stop knockin on my door on a saturday. I know you really don't care bout what happens to my soul so stop acting like it and let me get my sleep. stop following false prophets u mormons. Your prophecies u received are false while ours were fulfilled 100% the way it was goin to pass. no mombo jumbo b.s. wording that makes you say "huh?" i rather die than denounce Jesus as my Lord and savior, as son of the true living God, and one with God.
Yup it's all there in the Bible.
passthatshi7 4 years ago
Nose porque tanta gente se esfuerza tanto en hablar mal de otras religiones antes de practicar el amor puro de Christo
Jbranto 4 years ago
There are dozens of versions of the bible at bible dot com. The easiest to read and understand in the New International Version. Read it with the American Standard version and the King James version. This will give you a clear picture of what GOD is saying. Remember, Jesus rose from the grave so HE is alive today. Ask Jesus to guide you in bible study.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
how do u know he is alive? i know it but how do u know?
conimahoni 4 years ago
Conimahoni,Jesus was not the messiah until He completed the death and the resurection from the grave 3 days later. By the way, it is not 2 days until Good Friday like almost all other churches teach. Jesus rose from the grave 3 full 24 hour days after sundown on Wednesday which makes good Friday non exsistant. He rose after sundown on saturday.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
Because the Holy Ghost who teaches and testafies of christ has witnessed it to me. That is the only way to know for sure. and i know he lives
PreMissionKid 4 years ago 2
Joseph Smith, his uncle and other relatives were run out of Palmyra, New York becuase they were caught counterfeiting money. That is why they went west, because the reputation of him and his family were ruined. God would not choose a criminal to start a church.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
hmm.. so what your saying is when they put Christ to death because he was accused as a criminal it means God didn't choose Christ? WOW - you are really confused. In addition Prophets throughout the bible were considered criminals and killed for it, just like Joseph Smith. Oh by they way, Joseph Smith said his name would be known for good and evil throughout the entire world, and he said it when he was 15 years old. I guess we all know he was right.
brucebryce 4 years ago
Your the prophet of the devil and as such you will reap the fruits of what you sew... good luck in the future you will need it!
libbysix 4 years ago
Until I researched the mormon doctrine,I had no idea really what mormons beleived, We must be EXTEMELY careful with mormons, Now that I've read and researched even into the life of joe smith,without any doubt,the mormon doctrine is satanic, from start to present...
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Acts 5:
37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
slimguy9090 4 years ago
Notably the sun and the moon are representative of the degrees of glory. And a thousand years is a period of time after the second coming when those who are still mortal shall be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye.
CTR831 4 years ago
Joseph Smith is a Prophet of Almighty God and one day you will know it. Did Christ falsely prophesy when he said to the malefactor on the cross that he shall be with him in paradise this day? As true as Christs words are so are the word of His prophet Joseph Smith for they all shall be fulfilled.
CTR831 4 years ago
Deuteronomy 18: 21,22
dat scripture is the old testament. of course we can hear God. He speaks thru many ways. so do u know this? we r living in the times of the New Testament. the covenant in the old testament was finished by Jesus' death on the cross. did ur dear mr joseph smith know this truth?
delirious899 4 years ago
the book of mormon was from God Himself?? dude, please. well about him the prophet of satan, its the TRUTH. i emphasise once again it is the TRUTH, not the FACT. last prophet? the last prophet was Jesus. well dun get me wrong, He was called a Prophet too, and Son of God too. well wad kind of prophesies does your dear mr joseph smith have?
delirious899 4 years ago
joseph smith was a faggot and all his followers will burn in hell.
lberettal 4 years ago
this video is so far off the wall it's funny(lol)
mysanitysgone 4 years ago
THis video is so true its scary!
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 4 years ago
"issuesrgood"- if Joseph Smith was a prophet of Satan then why did he write: "Pray always that ye may come off conquorer, yea, that you may conquer Satan." (D&C 10) and in Joseph Smith History he writes that he was aware at an early age that he would become an annoyer and destroyer of his (Satans) kingdom? Joseph Smith was a prophet of God! He restored the true church of God to the earth! Praise to the Man who commune with Jehovah!
futurebluedevil 4 years ago
hahahahaha u r funny. i also commune with God everyday. does dat make u worship me? im sure u r confused now. well i dun want u to worship me, but praise Jesus. not to the man. joseph smith was a mere man and he doesnt deserve the capital letter.
delirious899 4 years ago
THEY said that Jesus Christ was a blasphemer, that he had a devil, and they used "the law" (the scriptures) to condemn him. They accused him falsely. They said all manner of falsehoods about him, yet it didn't change the fact that HE was the very Son of God. Think about it.
cshughes 4 years ago
issues way do you follow such a big anti movement that's all you're involved in do you realize it?
vicma01 4 years ago
tylerkit you say that j smith is a prophet of satan, is that fact or your opinion? Oh
yeah, I never said smith was above jesus, I said he was the last prophet, look up the definition of prophet before you open your mouth next time, loose lips sink ships.
vicma01 4 years ago
give it up for J.Smith. the last prophet nomatter what any one says.
vicma01 4 years ago
no matter what any one says? That statement itself shows a level of close mindedness and gullibility found only in fundmental evangelical and mormon circles...
StephenWebb1980 3 years ago
Joseph Smith was run out of town from Palmyra , New York with his uncle and other relatives because they were counterfitting money. A biblecal prophet can never be wrong according to the bible. Every mormon leader has given wrong prophecies. Therefore they are not from GOD.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
Your facts are wrong, Joseph worked in a mine, hence why he is called a 'gold digger', How do you even know what a false prophecy is, are you capable of understanding the will and terms of god himself...by the definition you give, christ himself was a fals prophet
libbysix 4 years ago
....because even mormons will tell you, their doctrine isn't finished, there COULD be more (False) doctrine from the mormons, IF Anyone Beleives The Bible,IT'S Impossible to beleive the Lie from satan,which is the mormon doctrine in it's entirity
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Hello all Joseph Smith here on Kolob, I just wanted to let my followers know that I am a false prophet, there were no golden plates, no vision in the woods, it was all a hoax. The demon Moroni was in on it with me. You can blame him.
JosephSmithlds 4 years ago
If it's a hoax its the best one the world has ever seen there double dopey. Prophecies are still being fulfilled today, obviously joseph has no control over what happens now, yet its happening. Think before you speak doofy
libbysix 4 years ago 2
You're right on point,it's a Hoax alright(mormonism)from satan
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Have you asked God if it is from satan for many accused Christ of repeling demons by the power of satan. Soloman said a wize man cociders the whole matter befor making judgement. something worth considering.
CTR831 4 years ago
The Bible is clear on prophets or angels or anyone coming to you with another doctrine, they're labeled anti-christs and should be avoided
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Paul saw the saviour after that instruction was given. The Book of Mormon is not in opposition to the Bible. It is a second witness that Jesus Lives for in the mouth of two or more witnesses shall every word be established
CTR831 4 years ago
Respectfully, I'd have to disagree with you on the bom, it seems to me, and taking into account of joe smith's documented character and history,it's no more than a fabrication and embellishment of The Bible
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Sorry, LauraGalway I accidently clicked the spam button so I clicked one off my own. I understand you may have you own view though I share another. thanks for your comment.
CTR831 4 years ago
Very difficult to understand how anyone could fall prey to this false and satanic religion,and especially with the background of smith's charactor
LauraGalway 4 years ago
What character? The man who was persecuted unrelentlessly and never fought back against his perpertrators. Or who labored for god his whole life and never gained a lick of worldy satisfaction. His work goes forth even after hes gone, lets see you set up a work of this magnitude and have it prosper for 200 years!
libbysix 4 years ago
Placing your face in your hat,with magic stones in it, and telling someone's fortune...What does that sound like? It smells of spirtualism and seance, I beleive joe smith DID see an angel,BUT it was OF satan
LauraGalway 4 years ago
Keep the up good work about exposing false teachers and preachers. Joe Smith used peek stones, which proves he did not rely on the HOLY SPIRIT.
CREDITS4CARBON 4 years ago
Many times in the bible prophest used things for desifering the Lords will such as casting lots and jacob used wool and the sign of dry or dew to know the will of God. it was acceptible to inquire this way because they had the faith whereas to ask for a sign with no faith is a sin.
CTR831 4 years ago
Check out the rebuttle to the lies and half truths of this video at FairLDS dot Org. Type the name of this video Joesph Smith/Jesus Christ in the search bar and you will get a line by line rebuttle to this propaganda hit piece. It clearly exposes this for what it is. It is well worth seeing if you are honestly looking for balance in what you are seeing here.
TruthSpotter 4 years ago
Check out the rebuttle to the lies and half truths of this video. at FairLDS dot Org. Type the name of this video in the search bar and you will get a line by line rebuttle to this poorly researched hit piece.
TruthSpotter 4 years ago
I wish ADAMSETHSMITH watched this video, that guy promotes his Joseph Smith IDOL worhip is very discusting. Even when one reads the BOM what relevance does it have? why would Jesus need to go to America when he embodied a ministry at the proper time? Oh and When did one ever read about the Hebrew passover, oh not there, why not perhaps it not true.
nashaunconwell 4 years ago