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  • When did so many people start taking crazy pills

  • the last 10 years were written on lies, they have made us slaves with their lies, thanks to them today we live in a fake world and the 90% of people still believe their lies, they are completely blind.

  • Mucka mucka derker derker berker allah muhamed Jihad! 

  • as an arabic speaker,this entire conversation sounds really fake and staged.it sounds like someone acting really stupid by asking questions they already know the answer to.

  • I thought they kill him well if he is a a life that is good news,but bad news to America.

  • >implying this is osama

  • Gimme a break. How does anyone believe this is bin Laden.

  • Some members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth believe that the man in this videotape is not Osama bin Laden at all, citing differences in weight and facial features, along with his wearing of a gold ring, which is forbidden by Muslim law, and writing with his right hand although bin Laden is left-handed.(source Wkipedia). But one must never underestimate the power of denial.

  • <<333 OSAMA!!!..

    you can tell they where high is hell!!!

    OSAMA no one will ever be as notorious as you...!!!

    22 Seals died 4 months after your death!!! you was aveneged.. but it lol it took 10 years for americans to avenge lol OSAMA!!! RIP!!

  • this is fake video!

  • this is a fake video ..probably made by CIA.

  • the CIA did a shit poor job on this video. Hopefully any sensible person realizes this video was a hoax

  • @myusernameistaken23 How do you figure? I see Osama bin Laden right there.  Is that not him?

  • @GalsiaDonovan Google "The Fake 2001 bin Laden Video Tape"

  • @GalsiaDonovan it isnt..his face is different ..it seems to have gained quite a bit of weight since his previous video which came out in october same year (i think ) ..his skin colour is slightly different..he is writing with the wrong hand..he is wearing a gold ring ..which goes against 1. his normal attire where he has never been seen wearing that gold ring 2. muslim men dont wear gold. ..

  • @Osamabindansker (1) Devout muslims aren't supposed to have large stashes of porno either, yet that's what was found in OBL's last hideout. (2) Devout muslims are supposed to abstain from alcohol, also, yet the 9/11 hijackers reportedly imbibed regularly during their time in the U.S. For a supposedly fundamentalist organization, al-Qaeda members have a history of "because we're doing God's will, the regular rules don't apply to us."

  • @tagryn hahaha 1: fake reports 2 : proof that they were the hijackers ?

  • @Osamabindansker 1. Maybe, maybe not. An organization that disregards the fundamental teaching on not murdering the innocent (Muslim or other) would probably be less than worried about breaking lesser rules, no? 2. 9-11 commission report laid out the plot in detail, go read it.

  • @tagryn LOL the commission report also says the towers came down due to jet fuel HAHAH... funny thing is..danish experts have recently said they found evidence of nano-thermite .. and theres a new group of 1500 + architects / engineers/demolition experts etc who are all demanding the truth because..according to their expertise..it takes more than two comparitively small planes and a bit of jet fuel to make such big towers crash and then make WTC 7 crash in free fall..in other words. its all b.s

  • must of the translation is manipulated but what he says proof what American wants ....if this video is fake then they will put the talk on what they want it to be .

  • “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11; Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.”” Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI (June 5, 2006)

  • This is not Osama bin Laden

  • If that's Osama, I must be Bush...

  • fuck osama, i'm glad that bitch is dead

  • RIP Osama

  • Thats not Bin Laden he is using a Gold Ring, The Gold is prohibited in the Islam, and he is always using the right hand Bin Laden is Left-Handed!!

  • @syaelbb If you take a look to ohter OBL-Video, you will always see, that he makes gestures with his right hand, he holds the mic with the right hand and he eats with this hand. It is just that simple to reveal. Feel free to think and check WITH YOUR OWN CAPACITY. Just don´t listen to the stupid Hoax-Internet-Nerds. They aren´t worth it.

  • just a simple question... on this recording where it say the word date in english and the word time in english would that not be in arabic as its a forign camera? expecially as its an islamic country that hates the english

  • @benjadastar, not necessarily alot of the electronics in Afghanistan have mostly english writing, and just about every business ive seen in the big cities in Afghanistan have english writing thats bigger than the Dari or pashtun writing

  • falso 

  • @GodChrome it was a typo relax das face 

  • FUCKED IN THE FACE!!!!!! ahhahahahha

  • Osama was so young at heart, he played my favourite game hide-and-sick. His colourful, cheerful ways were awesome!

  • @Whitakerxcore

    We see the guy reach for his drinking glass 3 Separate Times; All with his RIGHT hand.

    He also spends most of the 9 minutes Gesturing freely; Mostly with is Right Hand.

    but actually... i was going to concede your point.

    'going to'... until you ended your response with the remark, "idiot".

    LOL

    Seriously?? is this highschool?

    i guess when whitekerxcore calls you an IDIOT, there's nothing more to say.

    i guess i'll go Delete my Account now Since some virgin called me an idiot...

  • Umm is it just me or is it impossible to hear them. Arab or not, not one could translate that, it is too soft!

  • This doesn't look like Osama he's fatter and has a gold ring.

  • how do you know if the subtitles are even what they are saying.. im happy the man is dead but at what cost, what happened to america and the fair trial?? Americans live in such a jaded covered up world by the gov. you dont know what to believe

  • @MrVoss715

    I guess you're an idiot. With over 500,000 views, you honestly believe that not a single person speaks Arabic?!

  • @allstarreject Well it's the same thing like when you watch the Justin Bieber the #1 viewed video on youtube, you find it has a half a billion views and you can find only around 5 million comments; NOT ALL VIEWERS WILL COMMENT.

  • @abutreka45

    So you've agreed that, given the amount of views the video has, the probability of someone speaking Arabic not to have watched it is incredibly unlikely. Thanks for agreeing on that. Now your saying it's your opinion, that you think when the people that speak Arabic watch this video (under your/MrVoss assumption that the translation is false), they'll say, "Wow. I know Arabic. This is obviously incorrectly translated. But.... not worth my time to comment on it."

    You're a tool.

  • @allstarreject Well 1st of all you didn't go through all the comments, and 2nd I just said i speak arabic & that some of the subtitles is wrong, read my comment above.

  • @allstarreject let alone in a 500,000 views video .. maybe said comment is bellow, lol it im sure, it was above when i commented that :P. The whole Youtube comment system is fecked up.

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  • @MrVoss715 Oh for fuck's sake. If the subtitles were fake ANYONE who speaks Arabic should have pointed it out by now... Damn...

  • @polgasrg Well..I speak arabic SOME stuff are not accurate NOT all, some stuff r inaccurate, after i repeated the video some times..the gibberish voices are actually gibberish (the weak voice at some point) & they could not have heard it unless they had some special devices that can decipher gibberish, also this was not arabic arabic, it was an accent which differs from the "fosha" original language, you can call it vernacular, so what he says is not literal yet the subs translate it as if so.

  • @abutreka45 The main point point is the subtitles were not mere fabrication meant to fool people. mrvoss makes it sound like the men in these videos were talking about flying kittens and unicorn farts and the us government made fake subs to pin 9/11 on osama. the truth is, osama was behind those attacks, as this video reveals.

  • @polgasrg Well, the truth is the truth has never been proven, it's all a theory so far and has never ever been proven. Another truth is Americans are the #1 gullible people in this world. Where gone is the right for fair trial, maybe just maybe there is a chance is innocent? What if he was really innocent?

  • @polgasrg I don't think this is the real OBL he is too fat to be him plus he is wearing a ring, which is gold, and muslims don't wear gold rings.

  • @abutreka45 People change when they go underground for too long man. Plus he's a damn terrorist. He's not even afraid to take a life. He'll wear a gold ring if it pleases him.

  • @polgasrg LOL, sorry i had to laugh at this last bit .. OBL is a muslim therefore he wont wear a gold ring, end of story. Once again, it has never ever been proven he was a terrorist, the possibility was there that Bin Laden was innocent, he was just a fighter against the soviets invading Afghanistan in late 70s and the 80s and tried to help stop the manslaughter of Palestinians from Israel. And drive the Americans ,who long stole from Arab oil before Iraq war, out of the arab world.

  • @abutreka45 No problem. Laugh all you want. Muslims don't eat pork either but I know some who do. That is osama on the video wearing a gold ring.

  • @polgasrg You just said SOME, LMAO, those are Muslims just in name, they are called "aaseyeen" which means they make sins and don't abide by Islamic rules, also those are minority and would fear to tell anyone they do eat pork cause of the stigma that would be on him. Osama would not wear a gold ring as in arab and islamic tradition, only women do wear anything gold. Men wear silver, do otherwise and you will find people who mock you everywhere in the islamic/arab community IF you are a muslim.

  • @abutreka45 Doesn't really matter now that he's dead does it?

  • @polgasrg Those same Americans supported the Israeli massacre against Palestinians & stealing their lands, even so far as funding them with troops, men & money.

  • @abutreka45 I never talked about Americans. Heck I'm not even American. All I'm saying is justice is finally served for those people who died on 9/11.

  • @polgasrg Justice? What justice? Was the man responsible for the 9/11 World Trade Center plane crash intended attacks in 2001 almost 10 years ago, been convicted in a courthouse of doing this with enough evidence and witnesses and the jury agreeing on the conviction of the criminal of organizing said attacks? Do that and then say justice! Move your human rights organization into convicting the Iraqi war scandal & Israel of war crimes against Palestinians and then say justice!

  • @abutreka45 Let's take it one step at a time and start with osama then. You can't file a case against someone who keeps on hiding. Sorry boy but your hero's dead and the majority seems happy bout it. All our arguing here isn't really doing anything. The terrorist is dead. The majority is happy. No sense arguing about it.

  • @polgasrg The man is not my hero, kill him he's not one of us .. The man was funded by the Americans when he was fighting against the soviets, what i said was correct but in who's name? America! So they can get more oil and resources out of the arab world, it's not a conspiracy theory it's well documented but well buried as well so that it's hard for easily gullible americans not to find. What I am saying here is that it was not OBL that did the 9/11. No point in him doing it.

  • @abutreka45 I know America is trying to get more oil out of the arab countries. But saying osama didn't do 9/11? Yeah keep believing that boy.

  • @polgasrg And so far, at the parts where it says he admits the 9/11 I CANT HEAR HIM SAY THAT. Ask any arab to watch that and he will say the same.

  • @abutreka45 What part? He talks about airplanes crashing to buildings the ENTIRE video. What else could that freaking mean? He likes to play Ace Combat 5 on his PS3?

  • @polgasrg So did all the world at this point in time.

  • @polgasrg They did. All the way back in 2001.

  • @polgasrg they have pointed it out you muppet experts have stated that whoever made the translation was wrong now sit down and fuck off !

  • @polgasrg They did. The De Molle Institute.

  • @richter85 i know, just ignore them. half of them are just arguing for the sake of arguing and the other half are simply stupid

  • Awwww... it cut off just as it was getting good.

  • wowo look at all the loony conspiracy theorists that posted before me.

  • @richter85 If you call them conspiracy theorists, then USA must have created conspiracy theorizing, hence killing a man with just a theory of him doing the 9/11 attacks without clear and genuine evidence of that, or even a trial.

  • This video has already been confirmed to be a fake.....by the CIA who made it!!! Wake up people!!! If knowledge is power, it doesn't come free. Stories fall in your lap, information makes you look for it.

  • you guys realize he isnt dead right? it does america no good if he dies. they wanted him alive this entire time and NOW then kill him? No. that's why they didn't release the photo there isn't one! the man is being tortured (rightly so) as i type this. on that note please try and understand WHY they are doing this. we KIND OF deserve it (not to the extent they took it) but we did help them repel the russians and then just left their country in SHAMBLES. I would be PISSED OFF as well wouldnt you!?

  • @penguinsaresweet This is the most ignorant and moronic comment I've read in a long time.....and that's saying something. Do us a favor and throw your computer in the trash and go commit yourself.

  • It DOESN'T REALLY LOK LIKE ITS REALLY HIM.

  • Osama's burial just doesn't make sense. They decided to respect Osama and get rid of him as quickly as possible, but they didn't seem to give a shit about Saddam Hussein. How do we even know that Osama was killed? I'm not saying that it wasn't him, but something really seems weird.

  • to everyone who is debating his left handed ness and are wondering about the authenticity of this video. Osama was likely ambidextrous because he grew up in a conservative surrounding in the middle east (where to this day they frown upon left handed people, breaking or binding their hand at an early age to force them to use their right hand). being middle eastern myself i know many older men and women who suffered the same faith.

  • to everyone who is debating his left handed ness and are wondering about the authenticity of this video. Osama was likely ambidextrous because he grew up in a conservative surrounding in the middle east (where to this day they frown upon left handed people, breaking or binding their hand at an early age to force them to use their right hand). being middle eastern myself i know many older men and women who suffered the same faith.

  • I remember this day. I turned 19, it was my birthday, and I was in basic training for the army. If given the chance I gladly would have killed this guy myself! I'm glad to see he won't terrorize anybody else.

  • murderers have stayed alive longer on death row.

  • Al-Qaida vowed to keep fighting the United States and avenge the death of Osama bin Laden, which it acknowledged for the first time Friday in an Internet statement apparently designed to convince followers that it will remain vigorous and intact even after its founder's demise. FOOD FOR CRABS BURIED IN FULL muslim burial except foir the 3000 sailors/marines that spit on him as he was DUMPED in the SEA.

    THAT ENDS THE DEBATE. AS BRUCE WILLIS WOULD  SAY,

    Yippie Ki Yay Motherfucker

  • theres no such thing as any god at all, no allah no god, no Vishnu, it's all bullshit stfu

  • all i see is a few lads having a laugh and joke at the expense of there oppressors may i see gorge bush pow woo next ????

  • Uncle Osama sure was UGLY!

  • it doesnt matter if hes dead. the government is the real enemy. american military ARE the terrorists

  • @jonathansilva88 Yeah, I'm scared to death.

  • LOL at you three @cep32101 @rudZ18 @allstarreject You took this one hard, one even says "feck you" without arguing. I wonder why you behaved like that? Maybe because that was true?

  • @jonathansilva88 Fuck you.

  • @jonathansilva88

    Hopefully they come for you next.

  • why doesnt the government just release the pictures or give us some kind of proof 

  • @the2step Terrorists already operate on the premise that they have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    If you go and poke them with a stick, which is essentially what releasing death photos would do, you only drive them to further depths of depravity.  They'd step up their efforts and we'd all be in the middle of an obvious shitstorm, as opposed to the not-so-obvious shitstorm we're in now.

  • This doesn't prove anything at all, what wass the point of being lead to this video again?!?!?!?!

    

  • @esosa0804

    WRONG Dude!!

    This video Does Prove Something.

    It essentially proves that the guy in the video is "Right-Handed".

    Watch it again. Pay attention to the 6:06 minute mark (where he reaches for a glass).

    Judge for yourself.

    The Problem is that everyone knows Osama was LEFT-HANDED.

    (Yep, its TRUE. check the FBI.GOV website and see for yourself)

  • @WolfCatz Google "osama bin laden left handed", and go down to the sixth link.  Interesting page.

  • @WolfCatz Dude I'M left handed. This doesn't prove shit unless you assume left-handed people are virtually unable to PICK UP A GLASS with the right hand.

  • @Blackoutwalkin

    Good Point Dude. it doesn't 100% PROVE anything. i'm Right-handed; and i do Everything with my Right.

    But as an experiment, i tried pouring/drinking a glass of water with my Left; Almost Knocked the Glass Over!

    But i will concede the point: Just because i stink with my 'other' hand, doesn't mean everyone else does too :]

    However, in this 9min video, the guy APPEARS to be Right-Dominant.

    3 times he reaches for his Glass: with his Right.

    And MOST of his Gesturing: Right hand.

  • Thumbs up if Yahoo News sent you here

  • @zachsimp Yep

  • yes this vid really does not prove anything how the fuck can any of us be actually sure that what is on the subtitles is what is being said by them? who here speaks his language?? really everyone u know how many times our Gov has BS us. i need to see real fucking video footage of this man's brains being splatted on the wall in order for me to truly believe he is dead.

  • @5jorgelk4life5 The subtitles are quite accurate, and you sound really dumb.

  • @5jorgelk4life5 thats a very foolish way of looking at the world. Youll never see the live footage, if they took any(which I doubt) and if they did it will come out at least 30 years from now. You know some things do happen in the world that you will not be able to witness, dosent mean they didnt happen. Ever seen an eskimo?No? But you do recognize they exist right?

  • @TheOffkilter wow thats a bad comparison really, i dont doubt everything just a good part of what the gov tells us. i dont hate this country or anything like it because this is my home its where i was born n raised i just wish our goverment was more straight up about things instead of beating around the bush

  • @TheOffkilter wow thats a bad comparison really, i dont doubt everything just a good part of what the gov tells us. i dont hate this country or anything like it because this is my home its where i was born n raised i just wish our government was more straight up about things instead of beating around the bush

  • F**king coward. Have fun in Hell you sorry piece of camel shit. You should have been stoned to death or something equally horrible. That would only begin to make yo suffer for all you have done.

  • OBL is roasting on a big stick in hell. He will entertain the Sheytan for eternity...

  • There is no win for anyone but the people that have made us even be commenting about this whole madness of humans who have no regard for LIFE.They kill thousands of innocents in the name of God In return the west stop at nothing to get revenge and the cycle of death is complete.Osama bin ladin sends people's kids,fathers and mothers to commit suicide terrorism while he and his family hiding in safety.His sucide followers are too stupid to ask why he does not lead by example is a crying shame.

  • this video makes me wonder if they are drunk or high on opium. who has a conversation like this? they speak half sentences and then praise god. these are people who supposedly organize terrorist actions yet behave like 6th graders in their parents liquor cabinet?

  • Funny comment

  • @frthrdwnthesprl Which is why this proves this vid is not real.

  • Ben Laden is dead? No! It is Obama's next deceit for a raising of the rating.

  • @Bucefal80 you are an idiot

  • @ebotten1 It is all on what your infantile brain is capable?

  • Maybe if you people thought to put some fucking locks on the goddamn cockpit doors, fuck.

    This video proves nothing,

  • @michaelg519 Who told you that? The government? No like the government has ever lied to us before!

  • This is 150% Osama Bin Laden... Pause at 0:42 or 0:43 and you will see. Also, watch this video and go to 4:36... That's Osama right there on the right and he's using his right hand to sign his name... Idk who claimed he was left handed but I've seen him use his right hand many times... maybe he can use both, idk? but this is osama 100%

  • @ChicagoCubs1060 why is he wearing a gold ring? forbidden for this muslim, i believe he was very passionate about his faith and can't imagine him wearing a ring if it was forbidden. Also you have seen him sign with the right hand 'many times', how is this? were you in Abbottabad with him?

  • All you sheeple who think "we" won the imaginary war with the arabs because our government murdered this man need to wake the hell up. What was bin laden's goal? To draw the US into a drawn out regional battle. A war of attrition. He saw it work against the Soviets in the 80's and used it again agaisnt the US. He died a martyr in his mind, which is always what he claimed to want. So someone tell me how "we" won please?

  • Look carefully...he's wearing a gold ring on his right hand. Isn't the wearing of gold forbidden in Islamic law?

  • @anunhealthydistrust i think its not gold

  • for all of those who say it is forbidden for Muslims to wear gold.. I sure see alot of them here wearing gold rings and bracelets. of course he would use his right hand for eating and drinking.. he wipes his ass with his left one

  • @adamkratt yeah for kids and teens but not MEN... if this guy Usama says hes a real muslim, and he does eerything in the name of Allah, he shouldn't wear a ring...

    And nowhere in qu'ran says they should kill innocents or kill people

  • Kill Islamism? Don't just kill one man .... kill all ideologies + political parties!

  • osama bin bollocks .

  • Revenge Time fuck usa

    

  • @123izmir123xxx you should have taught Osama how to be a sad emo. lol

  • @123izmir123xxx

    Fuck you asshole.

  • when i first saw the still photos from the video i immediately thought that this was not osama, i thought it was fake... but it's not people.. this tape is poor quality, yes. it may be hard to totally identify him but it's him... pause the video at 0:43 and look, that is clearly osama bin laden, right there. i have no doubt in my mind that this is him. seriously guys, pause at 0:43 and take a good look.

  • @ChicagoCubs1060 0:43 Just confirmed it's not OBL thanks for that :P..

  • @abutreka45 this is 110% osama bin laden.... you have to be an idiot to think this isn't osama bin laden. one time i actually agree with president bush is when he commented on people saying this is a fake video, & i quote, "That's just a feeble excuse to provide weak support for an incredibly evil man." NOW with that said, I still don't think osama bin laden was responsible for 9/11... he may be talking about it in the video, but the translation is misleading.... bin laden was just a scapegoat.

  • @ChicagoCubs1060 It is disputed if this is the real Osama, you can't prove he is really Osama but there is proof he is not: compare 0:43 to this and his fat looks with the gold ring that muslims don't wear watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU&feature=re­lated. That video was in the same year so he could not have been thin at one point of the year and then suddenly fat the next couple of months.. But then again this man is an american agent kill him if u want it doesnt matter, & don't say conspiracy theorist -->

  • @abutreka45 this IS Osama Bin Laden... I don't know how anyone can say it isn't. There have been facial recoginition tests done on this video and everything comes back as postiviely inentifying him as Bin Laden. The gold ring and watch he's wearing proves nothing... I've seen plenty of other pictures/videos of him wearing a watch and a ring. Just because he's wearing something his religion frowns upon, DOES NOT MEAN IT ISN'T HIM! He does many things that doesn't agree with his religion!

  • @abutreka45 There is absolutely no proof to suggest that this video is fake or that it isn't Osama Bin Laden... All you have are opinions. As for him using his right hand to write with... Again, there is no argument there. Watch a video called "Bin Laden's Beginnings" and you will see a video of Osama signing a paper with his right hand... Watch the video he made on 9/11, he holds the mic with his right hand & never moves his left arm/hand once... Because experts say he most likely had a stroke.

  • @abutreka45 With all that said... I still have my own opinions on what happened on 9/11 & I'm confident that the story we have been told is not what happened... We've been lied to & decieved, dragged into a war... I have my own theories of the events & the official 9/11 report is bullshit... Also, as to how you mentioned that he looks different in this video from another of the same year, there's no proof that any of these videos were made at the same time they were released.. They could be old.

  • @ChicagoCubs1060 Well proof is inside the video, what he is saying..In the video i linked he talks about 9/11, if it is older than 9/11 2001 then he must be a saint and predicts stuff before it happens. Point being, both videos must be some time after WTC attacks.And between the attacks and right now in 2011 he posted videos in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009,2010 & finally 2011 and in them all u can see he has the same looks of thin body & defo dont look like the 1 from this vid.

  • @ChicagoCubs1060 How do you explain the US funding him through Pakistan back when he was fighting the Russians, huh? Same with that it is not a conspiracy theory, there is proof and I can provide you with sources to that if you need, but you can always google it. 

  • @abutreka45 yes, that is all true... The U.S. claims to have only give aid to native Afgans during that war but I don't believe for a second that they didn't fund Osama. Believe me, I've read about and researched a lot on this topic. On top of Bin Laden having ties to the CIA his half-brother, Salem Bin Laden, was an active business partner with George W. Bush. Salem, with an inital investment of $50,000, helped found the Texas-based company Arbusto Energy in the late 70's. That's also a fact...

  • This video is so fake, and this is never ever Osama bin Laden!

  • @kbick3 pause at 0:43, it is osama bin laden

  • @mokoko143 You just made that up? Second and third person in the video are wearing WEEDING RING as well. Such a morron!

  • I remember this one. This is the one where the govt tried to show us a fake osama, well obviously this ain't him.

  • @wheelmanstan obviously it is osama bin laden... pause the video at 0:43

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  • You laughed and rejoiced then,not knowing that May 1st ,2011,10 years after,YOU,Osama Bin Laden would be staring down the barrel of a NAVY SEALS weapon.The fear that came over you when you knew the Americans were coming.Allah wasn't there to protect you.He failed you.You killed by the sword,so you died by the sword!You didn't die as a warior in the battle filed.You died in shame living in luxury while others do evil for you.MAY YOU BURN IN HELL FOR EVER!GOD BLESS AMERICA AND NAVY SEAL TEAM 6!

  • @joel49er

    Amen, brother!

  • @joel49er Who says Allah [God] was supporting him in the first place? He killed people-- anyone with a brain can tell that this is an unholy thing. And before you say "He was fighting in the name of Allah," there's a difference in what he believes and what God does.

  • @TheOrrodifier God's a prick (flooding the earth, burning two cities, turning a woman to a pillar of salt, etc.). Sure, there's a difference between the actions of bin Laden and Yahweh/Allah, but that doesn't mean Yahweh is "morally superior."

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  • @evilisbliss Even if you take it from an atheist perspective, you can see that God creates a moral example for people, so even if he doesn't exist he still makes people do good things. And yes, some people take things too far or too literally, but for the most part, the religious people do good. A very small minority of Christians are like the Westboro Baptist Church, a very small minority of Muslims are extremists.

  • @TheOrrodifier Good and bad are subjective; any cause an individual supports will be viewed in a positive manner by that individual. Any cause not undertaken by an individual is conversely viewed in a negative manner. A few questions: why is the "fear of God" considered a positive attribute rather than the "love of God?" If atheists are as equally capable of engaging in "altruistic" acts without gods as theists are with gods, why have gods as a basis for morality? Why have morality at all?

  • @evilisbliss 1. 'Fear' in "fear of God' implies respect and seriousness toward God, rather than a timid fear.

    2. If atheists are capable of having morality without God then there's really nothing wrong with that.

    3. Morality is largely varied, it depends of which philosophy, which ideology, etc.

    I'm more personal about my religion than many people, and I don't try to jam it down people's throats.

  • @TheOrrodifier He (Osama Bin Laden) did,he was doing Allah's and the prophets will.He declared he was fighting a Jihad (struggle against the Infidel).MANY muslims IN the Islamic world seem to support him.You don't see so called moderate muslims coming out and speaking out against OBL,why not?Because they are ALL in mourning for your moder day Saldin.DEAD!DEAD!DEAD!

  • @joel49er Well, I'll have you know that I am a moderate Muslim, and all the Muslims I know are moderates. The only reason moderate Muslims don't speak out against OBL is because they expect people to be smart enough to realize that what only A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE DO shouldn't taint an entire religion. You only hear about the ones that support him because they get more ratings! People will want to watch it if the guy is a complete ass, not if the guy is normal.

  • @TheOrrodifier well then let me tell you this!YOU are FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN Osama Bin Laden for this reason.The radical is just radical and its easy to know who they are.The muslim who doesn't practice the religion is just hanging around.The moderate is FAR MORE DANGEROUS because theya re waiting for the time when they are given the green light.When the time cones to "Kill the Infidel where ever you find Him"

  • @joel49er That doesn't make sense at all. You need to understand that not all Muslims are the way that Fox News portrays them.

  • @TheOrrodifier Your not gonna fool us anymore dude.Who do you think you have fooled bro?You HATE Israel,you HATE America,your sort of defending Osama in here right now.You muslims are liars.According to Islam,it is forbidden to lie HOWEVER you can lie on 3 occasions.1.in battle 2.for bringing reconcilation amoghst persons 3.narration of the words of the husband to his wife,and the narration of the words of a wife to here husband.LMAO you muslims are JOKERS!

  • @joel49er Same with Christians, they are forbidden to drink, have sex without marriage & lie yet there u are, 90% of them if not all of them do lie, drink & practice adultery, but then again, all factions, religions ethnic groups must have their good people and bad people. It's a fact that 90% AT LEAST of muslims DONT drink, and the other 10% drink in the darkness, cause drinkers have a heavy stigma in muslim community, same with adultry, therefore you are in no position 2 say what u just said.

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    I'm not sure what "Christians" you associate with, or what bible you read, but there's nothing against drinking. Moron....and ignorant.

  • @allstarreject Oh well..there are a thousand different versions of the bible and Christians can do whatever they want shows how that religion is no longer valid after their holy books have been played with..u can't even know what is the sin from the right, Quran on the other hand is well proven that it's the same version that was put since over 1432 years ago u can even compare the current books with ones in museums dating from the 6th & 7th century..identical. Can't say the same for bible tho.

  • @abutreka45 Get it straight dude,your measuring the Christian to the Old covenant.You just put the LAW right in front of you bro.Under the LAW man is condemned because the LAW CANNOT make anyone rightouess.BUT a rightouessness has come in the person of Jesus Christ so that he might save us from the condemnation of the LAW!Oh and how do you know ALL those people you characterized as being Christians?You don't know that.

  • @abutreka45 Just measure the faiths by our founders of our faiths,Jesus Christ and Mohammed.Mohammed is known to kill,conquer by the sword,as a warrior.Jesus Christ FORGAVE the very ones who were persecuting him and nailed Him to the cross,Jesus Christ forgave them "Forgive them for they no not what they do".There is NO COMPARISON between these 2 persons.They are total opposites from each other!One brought LOVE - Jesus,the other brought FEAR -Mohammed!God is a Father not a school principal.

  • @joel49er Okay, all you said about Muhammed is biased & wrong, Muhammad was not fighting, he was defending himself, it's a long story, he tried to tell his people to stop slaving, stop the sins, stop the ignorance, stop the idolism of statues as gods and so on, what did those people do in return? They tortured him, threw stones at him, I don't know where you hear stories about muhammad but you totally heard them either wrong or either didn't hear them at all. Muhammad raised an army of followers

  • @abutreka45 again like TheOrridifer,who do you think your fooling dude?We are on to you guys and we know what you guys are up too.It is welll known what Moahmmed did when the people especially Jews did not accept his false gospel (2 Peter ch 2).Your right Mohammed raised an army of followers and what did they do when people didn't follow Him?He had them killed.What did Jesus do when they brought someone to Him they tried to accuse of sin?Jesus said "those of you without sin cast the 1st stone".

  • @joel49er When the infidels of Quraysh were attacking him in "his first battle of badr". Muhammad is well known about forgiveness and maybe this is his #1 trait, those that threw stones at him cut his legs wide open in the city of madeena and many others of the infidels of the arabian peninsula at that time, he forgave them. Muhammad was offered by Gabriel the angel to close upon the infidel army the mountains surrounding them and Muhammed said "no, let them be may they believe (in allah)"

  • @abutreka45 Mohammed killed one person one too many.Jesus who did he kill?NONE,ZERO,NADA and you rather believe a man who had no witnesses about his revelations _the quran to the Bible who had a WHOLE NATION as a witness?Go ahead!Point is,Mohammed KILLED!Jesus has already come BEFORE Mohammed and Jesus said "forgive your brothers,LOVE YOUR ENEMIES",Mohammed surely didn't love his enemies thats why he had them killed!No comparison!

  • @joel49er But then again, your bible can not be relied upon as there are many many different versions so your stories are questionable, no evidence, islam is all but proved words even the "ahaadith" are well documented and proven by "sahih el-bokheiry" & "sahih-muslim" and many more. The very first version of quran is available, so you can compare it with the current one.

  • @abutreka45 well Like I told you.We have a WHOLE NATION who witnessed the BIble.Mohammed had no one.Mohammeds own mother Amina would say her son was possessed by a demon,EVEN Mohammed himself told hhis wife Khadija that he DIIDN'T KNOW WHEATER IT WAS AN ANGEL or a DEMON who was revealing this stuff to him.No OTHER prophet in the Old testament ever questioned Gods revelation to them.They might have thought the impossible,but never questioned God.Unlike Mohammed!

  • @joel49er This is another whole different story that you totally misunderstood, he did not say he was possessed by anything, then again it's a long story that would take a whole lot of my time and life to narrate. Gabriel was just a messenger between god/allah and muhammed that just (copy/pasted) words from God to muhammed who memorized them (then tought them to his sahaba who collected them into one book after his death) in the mountain of the cave (thawr) where Gabriel would descend on him.

  • @joel49er BTW i had a typo up there, it's the cave (heraa) not (thawr).