Dr. Zakir Naik: Prophet Muhammad(as) foretold in the Torah and Bible : 3/3

[darkstar8260]

Well i dident mean to argue, however this is not the issue.

I was just facinated by your hypothesis, claiming that there are different versions of the quran which would be astonishing of you to prove.

[MTLBOBIRAS]

This Video is clearly a joke, I will explain why, all the material this clown is presenting, yes this clown you read correctly is false and distorted,Deedat tried the same arguements.There is NO and I mean NOT in any Bible new and old that has any reference to Mohammed,0 claims,This actuall FACT kills the Islamists here and they will make audacious claims that the bible are corrupt and so forth, When they use the bible to to support the "Mohammed" name, arguement then the Bible is accurate. LOL

[musa77751]

@stronzo5785 Jesus is speaking to His disciples in John 14:16...Mohammed came 500 years AFTER they had died, so this couldn't be Mohammed.??????? U SAY JESUS WAS A PROPHET CUZ HE WAS MENTIONED IN THE PSLAMS AND TORAH, then mosse came in 1270 bce and david in 800s bce, and jesus in 1 ad so were mosses and jesus tuking to their people abt a man who wud come 1300 to 800 years after them and wen they wud be dead? wat do u say?

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, yes, Jesus didn't see Mohammed, so he ignored Mohammed. Mohammed isn't a prophet, so this follows.

Jesus is God the Son. Jesus is more than a prophet, and Islam ignores historical fact and spews error. Jesus was crucified, and resurrected into eternal life, yet Allah pretends, and lies to people when he says, that Jesus' crucifixion didn't happen...why is Allah ignorant of historical fact?

Why do you worship a god who loves lies?

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, John 3:16-18 clearly teaches that Jesus was the only and unique Son of God. Jesus was also foretold in the OT, in Isa. 7:14, 9:6-7 and 11:10, Mic. 5:2, Mal. 3:1 and 4:5-6...you get the idea. Also, if you read all 4 gospels, you find ample proof of Jesus' crucifixion...and resurrection.

Jesus is God, Islam is false...amen.

[musa77751]

@stronzo5785 @stronzo5785 first of all there 50+ versions in the bible in english, all changing with the passage of time being a clear proof of it being corrupted. verses upon verses r missing in each bible as compared to others. isa 7:14, 9:6-7? “In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession...” (1 Timothy 6:13).?“...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28).?

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 Care to show us 2 versions and demonstrate how they differ?

I can also show you 2 versions of the Quran too!!

[darkstar8260]

@BGfromGB wooow can you really show 2 versions of the Quran, that i would like to see. Can you please show me ?

[BGfromGB]

@darkstar8260 Its the same old argument. Show me 2 different versions of scriptures and I will show you 2 different versions of the Quran.

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 Talks about the corruptions in the Bible. Well sir IF is the case then better the "corruptions" being revealed than parts of the Quran being destroyed. The Bible has nothing to hide. Obviously Uthman who destroyed portions of the Quran must have had something to hide!!!

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, who changed the Bible? When did they change it, and why? If you're going to make allegations of corruption, at least have an idea about where, when and why it was changed.

The 50+ "versions" to which you refer are actually translations, and they are translated only once...from authoritative texts in the original languages. Read them side by side, and you'll find more similarities then differences...

[musa77751]

@stronzo5785 @musa77751 @BGfromGB "The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do . . ." (John 5:19).

"My teaching is not mine, but his that sent me" (7:16).

"The Father is greater than I . . ." (14:28).

"Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God" (Mark 10:18).

hows he the son God????

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 quotes various verses to "prove" YESHUA is not God. What a pity your Islamic morals are selective. Care to explain other verses viz1 Cor. 8:5-6. John 1:1-5, Mat 1:23, Heb 1:10.John 8:58, John 5:23, John 4:25-26,Matthew 9:18,John 10:30, Revelation 1:17

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, read John 5:17-19, to catch the context...Jesus knew Himself equal with the Father. Indeed, all of your quotations from John are misleading, because you quote less than a sentence each time. If I were to quote the Quran like this, you would be up in arms...wouldn't you?

Mk. 10:18...Jesus is answering a sarcastic man. He isn't saying that He isn't good, or that he isn't God...read the whole passage to learn who Jesus is addressing.

[followerofjesus1984]

@musa77751 i love how muslims qoute only that which seems to fit their veiw but ignores the very next verses .. like john 5 : 19 .. read on to verse 25 and cathch the good things jesus says ..."that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him " meaning you do not honour his father eho sent him.. as you do not honour him, and alse you do not honour or believe in his very own words .. only demon act in this method

[followerofjesus1984]

@followerofjesus1984 40 - 47 i mean

[followerofjesus1984]

@musa77751 The Father is greater than I . . ." (14:28).

"Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God" (Mark 10:18).

as john 14 28 .. read in context .. and tell me how is jesus peace give ? ... and how is the father being greater means that he is a different being from jesus ... our belief in the trinity is clear 3 person are equal in the sense that they eternal in nature, but the son took on a form of human --

[followerofjesus1984]

@musa77751 so in the form of human he considered himself in a lesser position while still maintain his divine nature in restricted manner in some capacity

if in the good servant text he said that God one single being and person you would have a point... but does not deny being God or good .... jesus to keep the law is to come to him .. in other words .. man can not keep the law .. and jesus being the God man perfectly kept it .. and being in him we consider worthy before his father ...

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 If you believe John 14:16 prophesied the coming of Mohammed, then it is vital that Islam regard the Bible with reverence and respect. It is a book of prophecy which ever way you look at it.

What does the Quran prophecy? Absolutely nothing

Pity your religion

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB offcourse bible is the book of prophecy! which muslim denies tat?! in islam know wat is "eman-e-muzammil" any muslim who does not believe in the heathenly books and scribes is a pagan! and personally i respect the bible and torah to be the books of future-telling! BUT! y dnt i foolow the version in ur hands is cuz (leav the corrupted thing) in ur own book the arrival of the last testament (quran) and final prophet muhammad saw is mentioned! r not muslims more christians than u r?

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 says,"offcourse bible is the book of prophecy!" Then why does Islam not revere this book in the same way as you do the Hadiths?

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB offcourse we do, its a part of our faith. check the bible and then check us muslims way of life and then check urselves, we muslims r more men of God than christians can be. and its written in ur own bible tat muhammad will come so even accepting muhammad saw and the final testament the quran is also biblical! being muslim was for told by jesus in tat sense just lik mosses had predicted david and david predicted jesus its a chain process. simple!

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 No u do not judge and compare the lives of christians and muslims. There are miillions of christians who do not practise their faith. There are millions of muslims who dont. You are generalising. God will judge people according to their lifestyles and deeds just like quran says. Christians jews and muslims will all be equally judged.The Bible does NOT predict the coming of Mohammed. That is a lie and you know it. Jesus was not a muslim he was a Jew.

[conraddoavil]

And a high standard of character? since when Is taking a 9 year old as your wife an honorable thing to do?

[conraddoavil]

John 14:26 the counselor is the holy spirit

[ajlapiana]

I've observed Christian who convert to Islam. I listen to their testimonies & what I typically hear is them say "That's what made sense to me or it was the most logical conclusion I could come to. It's what brings me peace & makes me happy."

On the other hand, the testimonies of Muslim converts were miraclous signs of Jesus appearing to them in a dream or talking to them in person or they'd see a bright light like the great apostle Paul who persecuted the Christians did in the Bible.

[pichez5]

Dr Zakir Naik, U lead people against christ.ur days are numbered... JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD,i dont need logic to follow my heart.I have peace and satisfaction that cant be explained. thats all i have. But don't be deceived,JESUS knows you n your works, i feel He's using you as well to spread His word to Muslims.MAY OUR LORD'S WILL AND TRUTH PREVAIL.

[amrawat]

be careful with DR Zakir he makes alot of errors

[stronzo5785]

Finally, Jesus is speaking to His disciples in John 14:16...Mohammed came 500 years AFTER they had died, so this couldn't be Mohammed.

The word "Parakletos" actually means a lawyer...Mohammed was unlettered, so he couldn't have known a thing about the law.

I could go on and on, but my point is proven...Naik is ignorant of Koine Greek and the NT/OT, and is, at best, uninformed, and at worst, a manipulating charlatan. Read the Bible for yourself, and ignore this person's ignorant opinions.

[aizraaz]

@stronzo5785 you need to have more knowledge about bible to criticise Dr. Zakir naik. And in this world there is not a single christain or jew to debate Dr. zakir naik, and proved him wrong. He knows about your religious books more than your preist. Brother he is showing u only the right things mentioned in the bible. If u will know the mistakes, u wl feel shame to be christain.just try to understand what Dr. zakir has expalained.

[stronzo5785]

@aizraaz, I feel no shame when calling Naik on his error. I'm humble, and I am a Christian. Naik insists on audiences of 10000, but I'll speak the truth of Jesus to one person...

Naik knows nothing about the Bible, and is afraid of a one-on-one meeting with a Christian. If Zakir Naik is not scared, why does he run from James White?

[JesusOrMuhammad]

@stronzo5785 He runs from every Christian scholar, including Sam Shamoun and Dr David Wood because he knows hes a liar and he know Christians can easily refute his nonsense

[musa77751]

@stronzo5785 "parakletos" is a lawyer and muhammad saw was not a prophet. ok then wat the proofs and phrases given by zakir naik? does this mean tat at one place bible says onething and says something else in another place! isnt this contradiction? he shud be either a lawyer or a an illetrate person not both. clearify it.

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, hello, and the love of YHWH be with you...

Which "proofs and phrases" of Naik do you want me to refute? Naik is arrogantly ignorant of the Bible, and calls Christians "polytheists"...how far away from reality must you be?

Mohammed is not a prophet. John 14 proves this, and Naik ignores the text. Zakir Naik is delusional and stupid, and he refuses to answer those who want to talk to him, to his face, about this...he is running and afraid of confrontation.

[musa77751]

@stronzo5785 christians r polythiests cuz they believ in tritny and if u think tat jesus is god then where is it written? prove it from the bible tat jesus said iam god and worship me. is tritiny proven by the bible. and wat does john 14 prove? if john 14 proves onething then y do other verses of the bible mentioned by naik go against it? isnt this contradiction? how many proofs u hav got that muhammad saw was not a prophet. if so i can even cme up with jewish criptures which reject jesus!

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 The Bible does not say Yeshua is God, but Yeshua on numerous occasions himself stated that he is the son of God. In Islam, making a statement of this nature is considered blasphemy of the worst kind. But Islam does not condemn Yeshua for making this statement. Why?

Your hypocrisy leaves me cold.

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB look sir zakir naik even answered tat. if ur saying tat the word "son" means a sign of respect, then even adam, mosses, aron, and many others even noah have been reffered to as "sons" of God. so if u mean son in terms of respect then everyones the son of God we muslims hav no problem in tat. BUT! if u say "begotten son" of God then tats blasphamy. we wont accept tat, cuz God does not and needs not to cohibit or hav a child. get it!

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 No I don't mean son in terms of respect. You know that and you are playing with words to squirm out of a situation that Islam cannot answer. So let me put it to you this way then. Is God your father?

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB God has no begotten children, and no where it is written in the bible that God told jesus as his begotten child. at one place where He did, 50 bishops researched it and threw out the word begotten as a corruption. giv me a single proof where jesus said iam born of my father? where is it written? the word son is used in terms of respect, stdy hebrew grammer for it. God is my father in terms of respect. but in the begeting sense He isnt.

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751.Yeshua made some astounding remarks that clearly state who he is. he said "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" According to Islamic dogma, that is pure unfettered blasphemy. The Jews saw this as blasphemous, so why don't the muslims? Read John 3:16 for evidence of this.For elohim so loved the world that he gave his only brought forth son.. Saying God is your father in terms of respect is a pathetic excuse Our Father whio is in heaven... Can u explain this?

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB again u avoided the main topic. "he who has seen me" this means anyone! then y dont christians accept other prophets as "sons"of God. the word "son" is in terms of respect not begetion. if so give me a single proof? giv me one proof where God says i gav birth to jesus? giv me one proof where jesus said God gav birth to me? begotten son in John 3:15? lets compare it to other verses, ull find clear contradictions. y such contradictions? if john 3:15 says yes then y not the other verses?

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 says the word "son" is in terms of respect not begotten. Fine. But the problem is that there is not one single muslin who regards himself as a son of God in terms of respect. Do you say God is your Father? The rest of your argument about proof what God says is ridiculous. But if you want tit for tat then how sbout this? Show me one verse in the Quran where wives are forbidden to pray alongside their husbands.

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB @BGfromGB Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57).??John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30). ??Mark describes Jesus’ actions thus: “At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’” (Mark 5:30).?? Jesus too confirmed that the Father alone is the only true God (see John 17:1-3).

[musa77751]

@BGfromGB ur bibles not bible, is full of massive contradictions, at one place jesus says onething and in the very other chapter he says another. in john he says onething and in mathews the very same thing is different, and in luke its further different. bible is full of contradictions. basically the "bible" or "bibles" tat ur following is not wat jesus brought, the christianity tat ur following is not wat jesus brought bt wat paul taught u!

[musa77751]

@musa77751 Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. here i found this for u from the new revised standard version bible(1989). this does not contain the word begotten. while the one u gav was from king james version. y was the word begotten taken out? y contradiction?

[BGfromGB]

@musa77751 The bible is full of massive contradictions you say. Would you like me to show you the massive contradictions in the Quran? I can show you many.

[stronzo5785]

@musa77751, Christians are monotheists...the Quran is wrong.

Check John 10:30 and 8:58...Jesus says that He is God.

What do you think that John 14 proves? How can you talk about contradiction when you don't know what that is?

Mohammed made no prophecies, performed no miracles and had no third party attestation to his prophethood...he just sorta made it all up. Now...produce your proof, if you can.

[stronzo5785]

The deception road show continues...Isa. 29:12 is a pronouncement of judgement against Israel, not a prophecy for all mankind.

Song of Solomon 5:16 (Naik didn't even know the name of the book) contains the common noun "mohammedim," not a proper name. Additionally, this book is in neither the Taurat nor the Injil, so it's not prophetic...I hear Muslims insisting that this book is pornographic, so this reference is in an allegedly obscene part of the Bible, according to them.

[bonabadmash]

It is evident that these verses are applying to people who are low of faith. Zakir Naik has no clue what he is talking about. All his work is copied from somewhere, he did not even bother rechecking it. I am urging Muslims not to believe in this man. He is a fraud.

[bonabadmash]

The full prophecy of Isaiah is:

For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say, 'Read this, please', they will answer, 'I can't, it is sealed.' Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, 'Read this please,' they will answer, 'I don't know how to read.' The Lord says, 'these people come near to Me with their mouths and honour Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me' (Isaiah 29: 11-13)

[ajlapiana]

Most sweet could be said about any lover. Muhammmad was NEVER mentioned by name in the Bible. HOW DARE U use the Bible as confirmation & reject the truth about Jesus being Son of God. U do NOT speak truth. U deceive the people greatly & speak that which is great foolishness. I believe the Lord is saying: "If u do NOT repent of ur foolishness, u will surely die in ur sins & NO one shall be able to deliver u from my hand!"

[thaerskaf]

Is that what you were taught? Or is that something you yourself have proven whole heartedly?

Search for the truth and the truth shall free you. :)

Muhammad was mentioned in the old Testament and prophecised in the New Testament, no need digging your head in the sand and saying no no no, the evidence is there. Muhammad is not an enemy of Moses or Jesus, he is a friend, dont be afraid. and that was not the point about Muhammadim...you misunderstood waht he said ^.

[ajlapiana]

@thaerskaf If it did say that most sweet was Muhammad which it doesn't; then I would agree the Bible is corrupted.

[ajlapiana]

What Muslims have done is disrespectful to Jesus &God by hypocritically saying the Bible confirms their prophet while they say the Bible is corrupted as an excuse NOT to believe that Jesus was &is the greatest prophet that ever lived because He His The Savior of the world like Moses was for the Jews. Jesus has been confirmed many times over in Duet 18 & in Isaiah 53 & Zech.

[ajlapiana]

The Almighty God will ask u "Why did u NOT believe my Son? Jesus will say to u, "Why didn't u come to me that u might live. Who had bewitch u to NOT obey truth. I had send u servant after servant yet u consistently rejected my prompting. I say to u seek the Lord now while he might be found of u. Do NOT believe the prophet that says to u God is not a begetter NOR begotten. Do NOT partake of such a monstrous act. Bring those my enemies here in front of me that I might slay them with the sword

[thaerskaf]

My christian brother, why not believe in a God that does not beget? I ask you this, did Moses in the Torah say that God has children/ a child? No he did not. Moses preached that God is ONE with no child. Did Jesus contradict Moses? Was Moses wrong. no. Jesus preached God is ONE. Jesus never said that he is the Son of God. But in the bible where it does say it, Christian Fathers 1500 years ago established that the word 'begeting a son' is a lie, an inclusion and a blasphemy.

[babaob2]

part 4 out of 6 (the following) is here :

watch?v=vHNLpFu6W0A&feature=re­lated

[goofball111]

Here is when the SPIRIT CAME!!!

ACTS 2

I can not put the link so just search for acts 2 and read

[goofball111]

Here is when the SPIRIT CAME!!!

ACTS 2

[cosworth2009]

Jesus said also said in John 16

8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt[a] in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; 10in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.

[cosworth2009]

Jesus said

5"Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. 7But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

[tigernight99]

great effort . Could you upload the full lecture ,please ?

[beachman007]

MASHALLAH