EBN - More fun with the HHO torch!

[PigsCanFly99]

"I think the air turbulence is knocking things over" should read: "I think the hydrogen (gas) turbulence is knocking things over." 

[tonijesus1]

Impressive video. I am curious about this technologie. Can you tell me if the space between plates is critical and how does that afect HHO production? (kinda more space less production or reverse). Also, are you using some king of fire arrester device? When you say you are using power limit device it means your controlling the power or using a device to cut the power above a level like a circuit breaker? Thank you in davance

[SmartScarecrow]

@tonijesus1 - wider plate spacing requires stronger electrolyte mix - no difference in overall performance - I do use a pulse width modulator to control total watts power to the device but also have circuit breakers - best flash back arrester I have used is the double bubblers -

[aterack833]

try using a thermal reset breaker and a fan and have it 1 amp lower then your breakers output , then it will trip but reset on its own verry quickly and you wont have to go to the basement

[swirlingabyss]

Current limiting. Do it.

[SmartScarecrow]

@swirlingabyss - sorry, but I have have no idea what you are talking about - my electrolysis device is designed to use about 2000w delivered as 120vAC at 18 amps ... I use very effective techniques to limit the power into my device so that it does not exceed the design limits of the device ... however, when you are pulling 18a on a 20a circuit and someone in the house decides to use an appliance on the same circuit, you can pop a circuit breaker sometimes ...

[yangfilo]

Have you experimented with adding compressed air after the metal starts to glow?

[kkkkorman]

that is the cooles one i have ever seen

[MadHatterTruth]

you suck at playing with fire

[dmgcat]

I've seen a flame arrestor for HHO gas and I think everyone should have one as you can make your own very easily.

[00011theman]

@dmgcat you mean flashback?

[panzuman]

is iy possible to make a 1 lpm torch? im thinking about trying to mak a small compact design

[SmartScarecrow]

@panzuman - yes, but your flame tip is will be a hypo needle or maybe a basket ball filler needle ... very small orifice ... the gas needs to be at a critical velocity to keep the flame front from going right back up the tube and blowing up your gizmo ... so the less gas you make, the tinier the exit hole has to be to keep that velocity up ...

[fireball1821]

can i buy it

[SmartScarecrow]

@fireball1821 - the little torch was made up of small bit plumbing parts we got at HomeDepot ... easily obtained and pretty cheap ... you might check user d3adp001's channel ... I think he did a really good video on how to put one together ... to support the torch, you do need a pretty heavy duty electrolysis device able to put out at least 5 lpm ... what we show needs 15 lpm .. cost of such is about $1200 and yes we do sell those ... most just build one from scrap ...

[Rcore270]

i dont care what anybody says, cuttin and weldin metal with HHO is the shit

[kwokwing]

When the world is worrying about global warming and CO2 gas,you smart people now keep heating it up for FUN and CHEAP.

[sciencoking]

HOLY SHIT!

[bryansail33]

Aim a Brown's torch at a significant volume of water. Keep the torch on the water, watch the volume of water go up and down - as if the water is disappearing and reappearing. You can also put an ice cube next to the torch. Water will boil, while the ice cube won't melt faster than it normally would.

[mightybigjim66]

very intresting guys love it be safe

[babyella07]

That's really playin' with fire. Great stuff guys, keep up the awesome work. Stay safe up there

[jdcmusicman]

Nice torch ,that thing is pumping out some hho..Sounds good..

[BikoHatna]

mmmmm That's just downright scary....

Wonder what that generator would have done?

20LPM goin in.......Metal fragments and flames coming out? Sheeeeeesh!

[SmartScarecrow]

it was so rich at 20 lpm we could not keep it running ... like being flooded with gasoline ... had to back off to not more than about 12 lpm to keep the generator runnning ... an even then, we were giving it a lot more than it needed ... runs great on 6-9 lpm ...

[BikoHatna]

Ha..Ha...Ha... Man you guys are nuts! or you had to much coffee!...

Wow! 20lpm stuffed into 98cc's and ignited....

Thought that would come out like the potato shooter....

Great stuff, can't wait to see what happens next....

[SmartScarecrow]

We had a lot of fun but actually did answer many questions we had. Neither of us had ever handled this much gas before. A lot of what were doing had to do with learning how to safely handle this volume of gas. We have some plans for next year that will require 50-100 lpm of gas flow. So this was the warm up session to develop plans on how to handle BIG volumes of gas. This time next year, 20 lpm will seem like childs play.

[BikoHatna]

My testing is not complete but it looks like a larger engine would help:)

Seriously though, I am testing an idea. Taking a 6 1/2 HP engine and only getting about 3hp Seems much more efficient than a 3HP engine trying to get 3hp. In other words the larger the chamber the more efficient for the same hp/HHO. Not sure about this yet, but so far that seems where it's heading. Also how do we get more HHO with less energy?

Seems like that's the real goal, isn't it?

[SmartScarecrow]

Getting more HHO with less energy is the $10mil question. If you figure that one out, please let me know. A lot of folks out there with a lot of theories, but none that I have been able to replicate. For now, I do best I can with whtat I know works.

We have a sister project starting up now in Arizona that will use a 200cc diesel engine modified for spark injection. This project was just the warm up. Fat lady aint even started singing yet.

[BikoHatna]

Ah! very cool!

[d3adp001]

heh, the fat lady hasn't even made it to the building yet, this is the audiance walking through the door.

[BlackDogSociety]

20 lpm that's impressive20 lpm that's impressive, how much wattage are you using to create this much gas. In another one of your videos comment section you mentioned tip sizes and how much HHO was needed for welding, can you post this info again?

[SmartScarecrow]

we can typically get 5 mililiters per minute of gas flow volume per watt of energy we input ... so if we are trying for 10 lpm, we would assume about 2000 watts of engery required ... if we want 20 lpm, we assume 4000 watts of energy required ... we used 2 x 20 amp wall outlets to power our devices and managed to pop breakers when we pushed it for all it was worth ... the tip we used was a .035 mig welding tip ... system does well with 6-10 lpm ... 20 lpm is insane ...

[4AtomicHand]

How do you make the hho torch??

[SmartScarecrow]

the torch body itself is made up of an assortment of small plumbing tube fittings picked up at Home Depot. The tip is a mig welder tip. Hardest part to do is drill then tap for the mig welder tip. Have seen many variations on this theme from many people that all seemed to work well. For the amount of gas we are making, we really needed a bigger orafice than what we had this day.

[superbee1970]

Yes, nice one!! Like a lazer beam or somethin...

Would like to see ya'll weld either that file or that mower blade to one of those bricks!! maybe weld a floor tile to the brick as well! If you can do that, then maybe we can do away w/ all a this GROUT everyone's been usin between their tiles!! Just weld the tils together after ya lay em? Who knows! Just wonderin! How many Liters per min do you think you were pushin for that HHO welder? Later! Superbee1970

[SmartScarecrow]

we had to tame it back to about 15 lpm to keep the velocity of the gas from blowing out the torch ... Its an odd problem to be making too much gas, aint it !?!?!

we did weld a couple bricks together, but the joint was kind of brittle ... did not take much to break the bond ... but then, we really did not go after it real hard ... maybe next time ...

I should have thought to weld the file to a brick ... that really would look cool ... have welded a coat hanger to a brick before ...

[rapttor94]

Quick math, D3 + SC = dangerous combination...if you two are going to have that kinda fun...give us the chance to be there. Now that's impressive guys...awesome!!

Vaporizing 1/8 steel mower blades...very cool.

-raptor

[SmartScarecrow]

yeah, we were pushing it a little just to see how much gas we could jam through a .035 tip ... pushed it little harder than two (2) 20 amp wall outlets in my house could take !!! one of our electrolysers was running a little hot and kept blowing the darn fuse ...

we found that we had to keep the flow volume down under 15 lpm to keep the velocity of the gas from blowing out the torch ... to push more gas than that, we drilled out a .035 tip with a 3/32 bit ... hehehe ...