5:45 im pretty sure you can take as many rares as you want, its just that you cant have more than 2 of the same unit, in other words you can have 2 treemen 2 eagles 2 units of waywatchers etc.
I used to play a pure Asrai army without any tree-unit. Very hard to keep avoiding enemy, but Warhawks helps to delay enemy, archers grind down big blocks of infantry and waywatchers grind down elite. Then attack with Wardancers and Eternal Guard. Not always winning tactic, but really enjoyable to play a really rewarding one .
@winterace96 The point costs of the units are listed in the Woodelf army book.
While sketching out a woodelf army worth 1250pts I found that the average cost of the units herein (including characters) was 25pts. (50 models in all).
5-stars...excellent!...(bretonnian player)...yes! I swear someone told me you can make an entire ent treefolk army in warhammer...but flaming arrows give them fires...this rings a big bell in my brain...also use lord of the rings figures of ents and tree beard! (25mm) the only army I envy!
Oh god, my inner nerd is screaming for me to let him out. Who's to say I can't be a soldier and a nerd at the same time haha. I used to play warhammer when i was young (12-13 years old), the wood elves specifically. I still have my army too, but they are the old models. The wood elves got reworked later on. After looking through my old collection, it is very tempting to collect a brand new wood elf army. Collecting and painting the army was 90% of the fun, the playing was just an added bonus.
I've played wood elves for a good 7 years and I love them. I've tried a heavy melee army, a forest spirit army, a shooty army, and some mixes. High maneuverability and manipulation of forests does such destruction to front lines of big block units and other cavalry. This army is, as our host put it, a finesse army, and he is very right. I haven't had any trouble against much other then skaven. There is definitely no hard counter to wood elves, but maybe some soft counters like skaven or empire.
im thinking for my second army i want to collect wood elves after seeing this. at the moment i collect ogres, and woodelves will be a great change. but how many points should i build my armies up to? because i dont want 5000 points of ogres if nobody else gets more than 3000.... what is the norm?
@MJtheKandyman For decent large 4-7 hour games 3000pts is usually taken, a normal evening game is 2000, which is the amount most people play, but id usually take up to 3000 points even if i only play 2000 for the variety factor
tomb kings would fail horribly against wood elves as of they are chariot based. where as a slow advancing black orc army could stay out of range and suddenly charge in with giants for a wound taker and if they make it smack them around abit before black orcs come in one the charge. i have a 2000 point list if anyone wants to know it its anti elf anti dwarf anti tombkings anti empire (somewhat) but chaos pisses me of
Ive started collecting wood elf and have a few regiments ( though none have been fully completed yet). too bad the rulebook costs a bloody fortune, what should've been free is instead expensive. Im saving up for one with a friend.
You said correct you if you're wrong. That depends. They can snake past two units if fast cav, but cannot go within 1" of any enemy unit. That gap you had looked a bit on the small side as if within 1". But of course, that was of the movement tray! a cav base is a smaller front so -might- make it.
Wood Elves are way underated i wathched a match "K points wood elves vs Dwarfs the dwarf play betted £20 that he wud win.....he lost his £20 haha on him
i am looking 4 someone to help me make a cheap army for under 2k points cos when i walked into GW and said my first ever army was going to be wood elves they looked at me like i am insane.message me plz and we can talk and make an army. ps. BTP u rock u inspired me to start playing
@tomtomgo51 my first army is wood elf so those guys were justing being assholes, look up wood elf army list. ive seen lots of good suggestions for armys
@tomtomgo51 wood elves are a tough army to play with in the new rules, they are very fragile and easilly squashed. dont get me wrong, i love them, and i play wood elves myself, but they are hard to play with. thats probably why they thought u were crazy
another thing is Treekin are by FAR the WORST choice youcould go with in a WE army. Dryads and 1-2 units of GR are awesome for Core and WARDANCERS FOR THE MOTHER LOVIN WIN!!!!!
You are a WE noob if you think Treekin suck. They are pretty much the best ogre-sized models in the game. Like most of the Special choices the WEs have you don't *need* them in your army but they are extremely effective if used correctly.
I'm a noob because I think Treekin suck? Whatever you say son, and if you use everything correctly in fantasy it's going to be extremely effective....I'd really love to hear your valid points on why they are so effective
They can take a charge from pretty much any non-ranked unit and still win combat most of the time, they are the most defensive of all ogre-sized units with T5, a 4+ Armor save and a 5+ Ward, they hit extremely well with WS 4 (they need 3+ to hit just about any other ogre-sized unit which requires 4s to hit them), they are immune to psych which means they never flee from your other troops running . I've been using them for years. Saying they are "the worst" is just ignorant.
I know what immune to psych is, I know the rules of Forest Spirits, their stat line/saving throws, the "to hit" chart" and what size base used, etc so please spare me on that. The best thing you said "any non ranked unit" Really? Non ranked units....What is a majority of armies in the WHFB universe? Ranked troops? Yeah they are, not all but MOST. And at 65 pts a model with a "loss" on mobility because of wheeling etc. No thank you! You're taking away from the best asset in a WE army - MOVEMENT
Take a fricken Treeman instead, no loss on movement and he can still kick the crap out of pretty much anything that comes his way and with stubborn at Ld8 and all of those extra goodies he gets, yup he's a winner in my book. Hence why I use 2, a lot of people will disagree using 2 because of the point cost but oh well it works for me. And I haven't lost a game with my WE yet, so I must be doing something right
Learn to read - i said they can TAKE a charge from any non-ranked unit and still win combat. Every time my Treekin get charged by Ogre Bulls, Wardancers, Kroxigors or even chariots I laugh because they usually win. On the offense, they hit like a ton of bricks and are great at taking on RANKED units. Everything in our army needs combined charges and Treekin are about as great a combined killy unit you can find. Plz, every one knows about Treemen and every WE'er has two of them.
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HORRIBLE INTRO!!!! This guy has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to this army, if you guys want help with a Wood Elves army send me a message, I'm undefeated with it and have over 100+ games with them at 2K+ pts. DON't LISTEN TO THIS GUY, HORRIBLE TEACHER!
Hey BTp and shawn (correct me on my spelling if i'm wrong!) i'm going to start a warhammer army because my gaming club has lots of 40k and lots of fantsy and we are having alot of fantasy tournaments now so i was loking into uying some fantasy items. What was or is your favourtie fantasy army?
And finally, most WE units are made of 5, sometimes 8-10 characters. That's not that much to paint/buy! :) If you're talking about the eternal guard, I can understand you, but most players leave those at home. Might need to get used to not play with a single big block of infantry, but it works.
I beg to differ concerning the cost. 24 Glade Guard, 12 dryads and 6 Glade Riders (could be wrong, let's just say the batallion box) nets you around 80 euro's. If you have a money converter, look it up how many dollars, pounds or whatever that is. Over here they are quite expensive. Anyway, could you tell me which models are plastic and which aren't ? Thanks for your helpful advice.
Well, I think 8 glade riders, 12 dryades and 16 archers are the only plastic figs you can buy (each box 30€, yes I'm in belgium :) ). But here's what I did. I order greater commands in the UK since the pound is around 1.14 atm, you can get such a box for 20€ (18 pounds vs 30€). The box you're looking for sells for 48 pounds on UK GW site. That's 54€ (add 10€ for shipment) which is a very fair price for GW-standards
I can 't order anything overseas. Thus, and given the fact that I have to get my stuff at a very small local store, makes that I have to wait very long and that they are very expensive for me.
An example of this kind of tricks you have to get used to is to regularly flee charges with your light cavalerie (not wild rider ofc since they're immune to psychology) or stay within 8 inches around big, expensive enemy blocks so that they can't use their full movement speed (I'm not sure about the term in english, since I play in Frensh, but it's something like forced marching: e.g. orcs can only move 4 inches instead of 8 when you have ennemies near them)
Whoever is interested in some more details, I think that some of his ideas are great, but something important for wood elfes to know, is that they need a certain training to get used to. The very best advice when you begin a wood elf army, you really should read up tactics on the internet or you'll get regularly ripped apart on the battlefield... It's hard, but beautiful, original and UNIQUE army.
Can you help me ? I have started a new Wood Elf army. I've heard their best units are all metal. I don't want to use metal (like eternal guard etc). Are their any things I can use from other armies (like high elves) or LOTR (like ents / tree kin) that are plastic and useable in a wood elves army with converting ?
Sorry for posting 3 times in a raw here, but Kerstmanneke deserves a response I think.
As the gentleman above here stated, light Glade riders and archers should be the core of your army. I've been doing a lot of research on the net and mostly people play 2x 8 dryades, 2x5 riders and 2x10 archers as a core. Adding to that wild Kurnous riders, a treekin and dance-fighters (or whatever they're called) is mostly the way you wanna win a battle.
Thanks for the information. But I wanted to know if there are other plastic models (for example from the high elves) that I can convert to use in a Wood Elf army, since I am reluctant to work with metal models. Thanks !
@ kerstmannI'd say the H-E archers are quite ok for conversions, but it's tough work and might not look convincing.... Anyway, I think a better way of doing it is with the W-E plastic pieces. Here's what you could do:
Archers convertible to Eternal guard (take old H-E spears or some from the Glade riders)
Glade Riders can easily be converted to wild riders, but you'd need some green stuff to make it look original
finally, waywatchers convertible from archers (add a nice cloak)
ok: 1,997 Points Noble x1 Spellsinger x3 Glade Rider(5 in each) x 3 Warhawk Riders x 5 Wardancer Troupe x 8 Wild Riders of Kurous x9 Waywatchers x6 Treekin x3 The Noble is in the Wild Riders, and each Spellsinger is in the glade riders. Anyone have any opinion on what to change or alter? or maybe this is good, looks like an awesome army to play with, very fast. and fun to build and paint!!
what do you think of eternal guard? army list keeps looking like it has no muscle. love the kiting and killing but want some muscle just incase. what would recommend u, the special unit riders, tree kins, or eternal guard?.
I'v always wanted a wood elf army. But when I started to really collect them GW pulled all plastc kits from shelves for a new sculpt (the new sculpt is the current one) but I still have some classic one- pose archers and an oldschool treeman.
But of course there's money issues like I'm getting a deathguard army.. Oh man let's face it you people couldn't care less about me talkin' so I'm gonna say just 2 thumbs up for BTP!!!
Fast Calvary can't move between units like that. There is a rule that states that when you are within 8" of an enemy unit, you cannot march, ONLY charge or just move regularly.
Just a note, glade riders come equipped with both Bows and Spears. So you can do two things at the same time with them, instead of the one close combat, one ranged option.
I wouldn't say that any wood elf unit is "hard hitting" in CC. Dryads are skirmishers, so they don't get ranks. Tree Kin are too expensive to put into large units. Treemen are single models.
I had a my Stardragon isolated from my army. They surrounded it w/ 2 units of dryads and defeated it easily.
Moral: wood elves dont win one on one. Isolate an enemy and hit them from multiple directins.
3 boxes of glade riders would be 3*8 which is 24. but you say buy 3 boxes and you got 16 glade riders. just something i noticed, but i love woodelves and this treeman army sounds great.
Hi, during the video the camera cuts off what you are saying. I'm very interested in starting a wood elf army, could you possibly explain in a reply or something how they picked you apart?
I'm having a hard time picturing how i could do well with Wood Elves as they seem pretty difficult to play. So any info would be great.
Wood Elves are difficult. It's possible to do an army that scatters on the first turn, making them almost impossible to pin down. They dance around the board and when the enemy is scattered, they move in for the kill... bringing to bear multiple units on a single isolated victim. An army that does nothing, and turtles up, will end up losing the shooting/magic game. The downside is that it doesn't take much to blow them up.
Wood Elves will be the fantasy army i collect if i ever return to the warhammer franchise. I love the tree men and tree-kin models. Although i'm more of a fan of the old tree-kin model.
You are wrong shaun. They cannot go through those two units because no unit can be within 1' of another unit, ever, without a being in close combat. If they were more spaced apart, you could..
Oh! I feel stupid, I think its they cannot END they're movement within 1', but I didn't look it up, because my friend owns the book. But if what i said before is true, then yeah, it would have to be 3' because cavalry at the side is 1' wide, and needs 1' of space on either side.
ya,you cannont move side ways. what you where doing was pretty much makeing horses so a side step. but because they are fasy calvery they can re-form X amount of times so re-form them into a long row and walk down the middle of the enemy column then reform once more and go to town with shooting : ]
I love getting 3 spell singers (normally play at 1500 points) and just tree surf the whole game. It's even better with my treekin in the front of it. ;D
It's also great to get moonstone with a wardancer and a troupe, and just keep the enemy on their side while you shoot 'em down.
Wood Elves are my favorite Fantasy army. I think Dryads deserve a mention. They are pretty devastating with their high strength, high toughness and fear-causing ability. I like to include units of 8 in my army.
I've never been a fantasy fan, and to be completely honest, I would rather these videos be about 40k. Though I appreciate Shawn's expert knowledge in the fantasy realm. Also most of the previous videos have been about 40k, so I suppose it's time for some of these videos to be about fantasy.
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5:45 im pretty sure you can take as many rares as you want, its just that you cant have more than 2 of the same unit, in other words you can have 2 treemen 2 eagles 2 units of waywatchers etc.
seanziess 1 month ago
8 glade riders per box times 3 boxes = 24 not 15
TheEagleman67 5 months ago
@gingaballa no one suffers movement penalties in forests any more
BobThePokeMaster 9 months ago
wat is that base thing at 1:55 because im new to wood elves and i wanna keep my foot troops in tht plz reply :D
kieranfarley0202 10 months ago
do u recon u could re do this for 8th edition plz?
Runtherd 1 year ago
What is the biggest difference between 7th and 8th edition ?
emilious14 1 year ago
@emilious14 probably magic, but loads of stuff has changed
most of this is irrelevant now
Runtherd 1 year ago
@emilious14 biggest how? close combat magic and moving have the biggest changes but there are tweaks in every single phase/aspect of the game.
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emilious14 1 year ago
Best comercial picture if you pause at 6:35! lol! I love wood elves, thanks!
Toxicrafa 1 year ago
I used to play a pure Asrai army without any tree-unit. Very hard to keep avoiding enemy, but Warhawks helps to delay enemy, archers grind down big blocks of infantry and waywatchers grind down elite. Then attack with Wardancers and Eternal Guard. Not always winning tactic, but really enjoyable to play a really rewarding one .
Good vid BTP, nice job :)
makakooos 1 year ago
ive started a wood army and im new to the game and i was woundering how do you know what points each units are.
winterace96 1 year ago
@winterace96 The point costs of the units are listed in the Woodelf army book.
While sketching out a woodelf army worth 1250pts I found that the average cost of the units herein (including characters) was 25pts. (50 models in all).
TheVacationist 1 year ago
What is the OUTRO music pls? nice video (WE begining player)
ghoil 1 year ago
"should we do another one? ... I think we should"
Lukeml1X 1 year ago
this is cool because i just finished a 1002 point army
piehero22 1 year ago
I play wood elves! i dont think there too hard to play! there alot of fun
calzo101 1 year ago
5-stars...excellent!...(bretonnian player)...yes! I swear someone told me you can make an entire ent treefolk army in warhammer...but flaming arrows give them fires...this rings a big bell in my brain...also use lord of the rings figures of ents and tree beard! (25mm) the only army I envy!
ufogelfling1 1 year ago
Oh god, my inner nerd is screaming for me to let him out. Who's to say I can't be a soldier and a nerd at the same time haha. I used to play warhammer when i was young (12-13 years old), the wood elves specifically. I still have my army too, but they are the old models. The wood elves got reworked later on. After looking through my old collection, it is very tempting to collect a brand new wood elf army. Collecting and painting the army was 90% of the fun, the playing was just an added bonus.
BrandonEclipse 1 year ago
I've played wood elves for a good 7 years and I love them. I've tried a heavy melee army, a forest spirit army, a shooty army, and some mixes. High maneuverability and manipulation of forests does such destruction to front lines of big block units and other cavalry. This army is, as our host put it, a finesse army, and he is very right. I haven't had any trouble against much other then skaven. There is definitely no hard counter to wood elves, but maybe some soft counters like skaven or empire.
manderdator 1 year ago
im thinking for my second army i want to collect wood elves after seeing this. at the moment i collect ogres, and woodelves will be a great change. but how many points should i build my armies up to? because i dont want 5000 points of ogres if nobody else gets more than 3000.... what is the norm?
MJtheKandyman 1 year ago
@MJtheKandyman For decent large 4-7 hour games 3000pts is usually taken, a normal evening game is 2000, which is the amount most people play, but id usually take up to 3000 points even if i only play 2000 for the variety factor
Naruto52525 1 year ago
tomb kings would fail horribly against wood elves as of they are chariot based. where as a slow advancing black orc army could stay out of range and suddenly charge in with giants for a wound taker and if they make it smack them around abit before black orcs come in one the charge. i have a 2000 point list if anyone wants to know it its anti elf anti dwarf anti tombkings anti empire (somewhat) but chaos pisses me of
icebearlover14 1 year ago
Wood elves are pretty good and my friend has only cav, archers and ONE level two mage. Hard to beat with my high elves!!
KRAZYCAMMY 1 year ago
for wood elves can you convert the mounted elves to footed elves and can you convert the models to close combat weapons
Beastajg 1 year ago
Eternal Guard are Special, they become core IF a highborn leads the army.
Krellnus 2 years ago
wow wood elves are really cool i might be converting the glade guard
roccomedy 2 years ago
Ive started collecting wood elf and have a few regiments ( though none have been fully completed yet). too bad the rulebook costs a bloody fortune, what should've been free is instead expensive. Im saving up for one with a friend.
radicalhit 2 years ago
wood elves are the best and for anyone that deny it are just big haters
EPiLlSz1 2 years ago
Your opinion i guess...i say dwarfs are best and if YOU deny it, your a big hater :P
Arguably the best shooters in the game is dwarfs (lol)
Rincewindlolzor 2 years ago
You said correct you if you're wrong. That depends. They can snake past two units if fast cav, but cannot go within 1" of any enemy unit. That gap you had looked a bit on the small side as if within 1". But of course, that was of the movement tray! a cav base is a smaller front so -might- make it.
RobertJFreemantle 2 years ago
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lol old man warhammer great looser
SCOBYsnacks 2 years ago
i dunno which elves to collect can someone please help me pick out of dark high or wood elves PLEASE !
aziayman 2 years ago
go one thats not in your club
MrScotish001 2 years ago
go for the one that basically no-one plays
LOTRwh40kDuncan 2 years ago
dark are more powerful but wood are fun and can be as good or better i collect wood elves
if your new then go 4 darkys
SCORCH3DxX 2 years ago
woodelves are the best army in the game.
H0p5c07ch 2 years ago
wood elves cause more fun to play
hugusmo 2 years ago
Go for the woodelfs They have nice shirts and jeans i love the colors green and broun i like the woodelves but you have the choice
MrCastrosan 2 years ago
Wood Elves are way underated i wathched a match "K points wood elves vs Dwarfs the dwarf play betted £20 that he wud win.....he lost his £20 haha on him
tomtomgo51 2 years ago
i am looking 4 someone to help me make a cheap army for under 2k points cos when i walked into GW and said my first ever army was going to be wood elves they looked at me like i am insane.message me plz and we can talk and make an army. ps. BTP u rock u inspired me to start playing
tomtomgo51 2 years ago 4
@tomtomgo51 my first army is wood elf so those guys were justing being assholes, look up wood elf army list. ive seen lots of good suggestions for armys
GriffinMcNown 1 year ago
@tomtomgo51 wood elves are a tough army to play with in the new rules, they are very fragile and easilly squashed. dont get me wrong, i love them, and i play wood elves myself, but they are hard to play with. thats probably why they thought u were crazy
Runtherd 1 year ago
and Treemen are a must I use 2
churchic 2 years ago
If i used dryads as my core and 2 treeman no one at my club would play me and call me cheesy anyways lol.
Orangez4life 2 years ago
Sorry to hear that man, they sound like sore losers to me.....I'll still help ya make a list, I have LOTS
churchic 2 years ago
another thing is Treekin are by FAR the WORST choice youcould go with in a WE army. Dryads and 1-2 units of GR are awesome for Core and WARDANCERS FOR THE MOTHER LOVIN WIN!!!!!
churchic 2 years ago
You are a WE noob if you think Treekin suck. They are pretty much the best ogre-sized models in the game. Like most of the Special choices the WEs have you don't *need* them in your army but they are extremely effective if used correctly.
theraf2u 2 years ago
I'm a noob because I think Treekin suck? Whatever you say son, and if you use everything correctly in fantasy it's going to be extremely effective....I'd really love to hear your valid points on why they are so effective
churchic 2 years ago
They can take a charge from pretty much any non-ranked unit and still win combat most of the time, they are the most defensive of all ogre-sized units with T5, a 4+ Armor save and a 5+ Ward, they hit extremely well with WS 4 (they need 3+ to hit just about any other ogre-sized unit which requires 4s to hit them), they are immune to psych which means they never flee from your other troops running . I've been using them for years. Saying they are "the worst" is just ignorant.
theraf2u 2 years ago
I know what immune to psych is, I know the rules of Forest Spirits, their stat line/saving throws, the "to hit" chart" and what size base used, etc so please spare me on that. The best thing you said "any non ranked unit" Really? Non ranked units....What is a majority of armies in the WHFB universe? Ranked troops? Yeah they are, not all but MOST. And at 65 pts a model with a "loss" on mobility because of wheeling etc. No thank you! You're taking away from the best asset in a WE army - MOVEMENT
churchic 2 years ago
Take a fricken Treeman instead, no loss on movement and he can still kick the crap out of pretty much anything that comes his way and with stubborn at Ld8 and all of those extra goodies he gets, yup he's a winner in my book. Hence why I use 2, a lot of people will disagree using 2 because of the point cost but oh well it works for me. And I haven't lost a game with my WE yet, so I must be doing something right
churchic 2 years ago
Learn to read - i said they can TAKE a charge from any non-ranked unit and still win combat. Every time my Treekin get charged by Ogre Bulls, Wardancers, Kroxigors or even chariots I laugh because they usually win. On the offense, they hit like a ton of bricks and are great at taking on RANKED units. Everything in our army needs combined charges and Treekin are about as great a combined killy unit you can find. Plz, every one knows about Treemen and every WE'er has two of them.
theraf2u 2 years ago
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HORRIBLE INTRO!!!! This guy has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to this army, if you guys want help with a Wood Elves army send me a message, I'm undefeated with it and have over 100+ games with them at 2K+ pts. DON't LISTEN TO THIS GUY, HORRIBLE TEACHER!
churchic 2 years ago
take out your bluetooth!!! AHHH!!!
gman1225 2 years ago
Hey BTp and shawn (correct me on my spelling if i'm wrong!) i'm going to start a warhammer army because my gaming club has lots of 40k and lots of fantsy and we are having alot of fantasy tournaments now so i was loking into uying some fantasy items. What was or is your favourtie fantasy army?
chriso119 2 years ago
And finally, most WE units are made of 5, sometimes 8-10 characters. That's not that much to paint/buy! :) If you're talking about the eternal guard, I can understand you, but most players leave those at home. Might need to get used to not play with a single big block of infantry, but it works.
Best of luck and may the wind guide your way
khyran 2 years ago
I beg to differ concerning the cost. 24 Glade Guard, 12 dryads and 6 Glade Riders (could be wrong, let's just say the batallion box) nets you around 80 euro's. If you have a money converter, look it up how many dollars, pounds or whatever that is. Over here they are quite expensive. Anyway, could you tell me which models are plastic and which aren't ? Thanks for your helpful advice.
kerstmanneke82 2 years ago
Well, I think 8 glade riders, 12 dryades and 16 archers are the only plastic figs you can buy (each box 30€, yes I'm in belgium :) ). But here's what I did. I order greater commands in the UK since the pound is around 1.14 atm, you can get such a box for 20€ (18 pounds vs 30€). The box you're looking for sells for 48 pounds on UK GW site. That's 54€ (add 10€ for shipment) which is a very fair price for GW-standards
khyran 2 years ago
I can 't order anything overseas. Thus, and given the fact that I have to get my stuff at a very small local store, makes that I have to wait very long and that they are very expensive for me.
kerstmanneke82 2 years ago
An example of this kind of tricks you have to get used to is to regularly flee charges with your light cavalerie (not wild rider ofc since they're immune to psychology) or stay within 8 inches around big, expensive enemy blocks so that they can't use their full movement speed (I'm not sure about the term in english, since I play in Frensh, but it's something like forced marching: e.g. orcs can only move 4 inches instead of 8 when you have ennemies near them)
These are ofc only examples :) GL!
khyran 2 years ago
Whoever is interested in some more details, I think that some of his ideas are great, but something important for wood elfes to know, is that they need a certain training to get used to. The very best advice when you begin a wood elf army, you really should read up tactics on the internet or you'll get regularly ripped apart on the battlefield... It's hard, but beautiful, original and UNIQUE army.
Best of luck with them :)
khyran 2 years ago
Can you help me ? I have started a new Wood Elf army. I've heard their best units are all metal. I don't want to use metal (like eternal guard etc). Are their any things I can use from other armies (like high elves) or LOTR (like ents / tree kin) that are plastic and useable in a wood elves army with converting ?
kerstmanneke82 2 years ago
Sorry for posting 3 times in a raw here, but Kerstmanneke deserves a response I think.
As the gentleman above here stated, light Glade riders and archers should be the core of your army. I've been doing a lot of research on the net and mostly people play 2x 8 dryades, 2x5 riders and 2x10 archers as a core. Adding to that wild Kurnous riders, a treekin and dance-fighters (or whatever they're called) is mostly the way you wanna win a battle.
khyran 2 years ago
Thanks for the information. But I wanted to know if there are other plastic models (for example from the high elves) that I can convert to use in a Wood Elf army, since I am reluctant to work with metal models. Thanks !
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@ kerstmannI'd say the H-E archers are quite ok for conversions, but it's tough work and might not look convincing.... Anyway, I think a better way of doing it is with the W-E plastic pieces. Here's what you could do:
Archers convertible to Eternal guard (take old H-E spears or some from the Glade riders)
Glade Riders can easily be converted to wild riders, but you'd need some green stuff to make it look original
finally, waywatchers convertible from archers (add a nice cloak)
khyran 2 years ago
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ghostkiller36 2 years ago
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ghostkiller36 2 years ago
what do you think of eternal guard? army list keeps looking like it has no muscle. love the kiting and killing but want some muscle just incase. what would recommend u, the special unit riders, tree kins, or eternal guard?.
ghostkiller36 2 years ago
go woodelves =)
yoyoyowhity 2 years ago
I'v always wanted a wood elf army. But when I started to really collect them GW pulled all plastc kits from shelves for a new sculpt (the new sculpt is the current one) but I still have some classic one- pose archers and an oldschool treeman.
But of course there's money issues like I'm getting a deathguard army.. Oh man let's face it you people couldn't care less about me talkin' so I'm gonna say just 2 thumbs up for BTP!!!
granduelist 2 years ago
Fast Calvary can't move between units like that. There is a rule that states that when you are within 8" of an enemy unit, you cannot march, ONLY charge or just move regularly.
SasukeWarrior2 3 years ago
I start 9" away, march, reform to go through you, continue the end of my move, and reform in a line marchblocking both of your units
TyranidsIsForever 2 years ago
in the rules of fast cav it states that they may move at double there distance with NO penalty
morantopeed 2 years ago 4
oh
haha nevermind my comment on the intro to highelves
i never saw this video
zulurom3o 3 years ago
sort of the dark elder of Warhammer fantasy
efsefzsgrzsgf 3 years ago
Would you recommend foot-sloggers for a Wood Elf army? Just for more shooting?
ChuChuKhang 3 years ago
true, but i think he ment you can make then go single file and run throught the middle of the two units which fast calvery can do.
xplaya222 3 years ago
but then he charged from the back and to move to single file is a reform so that would be point less
evildevo714 3 years ago
you can't move them past a unit side ways
evildevo714 3 years ago
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true, but i think he ment you can make then go single file and run throught the middle of the two units which fast calvery can do.
xplaya222 3 years ago
Just a note, glade riders come equipped with both Bows and Spears. So you can do two things at the same time with them, instead of the one close combat, one ranged option.
porcu12345 3 years ago
would you do a orc introduction?please
frankiek2k8 3 years ago
what is this music in the beginning of your video?
passivetest 3 years ago
It's generic royalty-free music.
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
I wouldn't say that any wood elf unit is "hard hitting" in CC. Dryads are skirmishers, so they don't get ranks. Tree Kin are too expensive to put into large units. Treemen are single models.
I had a my Stardragon isolated from my army. They surrounded it w/ 2 units of dryads and defeated it easily.
Moral: wood elves dont win one on one. Isolate an enemy and hit them from multiple directins.
DracoAvian 3 years ago
3 boxes of glade riders would be 3*8 which is 24. but you say buy 3 boxes and you got 16 glade riders. just something i noticed, but i love woodelves and this treeman army sounds great.
zverinex 3 years ago
Thank you. I meant three units from two boxes. Good save.
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
Hi, during the video the camera cuts off what you are saying. I'm very interested in starting a wood elf army, could you possibly explain in a reply or something how they picked you apart?
I'm having a hard time picturing how i could do well with Wood Elves as they seem pretty difficult to play. So any info would be great.
porcu12345 3 years ago
Wood Elves are difficult. It's possible to do an army that scatters on the first turn, making them almost impossible to pin down. They dance around the board and when the enemy is scattered, they move in for the kill... bringing to bear multiple units on a single isolated victim. An army that does nothing, and turtles up, will end up losing the shooting/magic game. The downside is that it doesn't take much to blow them up.
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
Also, were they 4 units of 5, or 4 units of 8?
porcu12345 3 years ago
Four units of Glade Riders, each five strong. With a sixth model; a hero.
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
Can you do one for empire please. Ive been looking at them and they seem kinda fun.
JacksonHighlander 3 years ago
Wood Elves will be the fantasy army i collect if i ever return to the warhammer franchise. I love the tree men and tree-kin models. Although i'm more of a fan of the old tree-kin model.
porcu12345 3 years ago
I like the sound of the all treefolk based army. do you have any ideas for converting a treeman into something special for the general?
KingCanute1016 3 years ago
Oh yeah, Ultraforgeminiatures puts out two good treeman kits. Also, use branches and moss to beef out any treeman kit.
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
Cool, thanks. The treewoman on Ultraforgeminiatures looks amazing!
KingCanute1016 3 years ago
You are wrong shaun. They cannot go through those two units because no unit can be within 1' of another unit, ever, without a being in close combat. If they were more spaced apart, you could..
UndeadWookiee 3 years ago
Thank you. I thought, that, too after I made this video. So what would the gap need to be? 3" for a single file line to pass through?
bluetablepainting 3 years ago
Oh! I feel stupid, I think its they cannot END they're movement within 1', but I didn't look it up, because my friend owns the book. But if what i said before is true, then yeah, it would have to be 3' because cavalry at the side is 1' wide, and needs 1' of space on either side.
UndeadWookiee 3 years ago
ya,you cannont move side ways. what you where doing was pretty much makeing horses so a side step. but because they are fasy calvery they can re-form X amount of times so re-form them into a long row and walk down the middle of the enemy column then reform once more and go to town with shooting : ]
Irontoad88 3 years ago
So you could reform the Fast Cavarly twice in one movement faze? Is that so?
stitchcrafter 3 years ago 2
Yes they can. As long as no individual model moves more then it is allowed.
SasukeWarrior2 3 years ago
could you do this for the warriors of chaos
i'm thinking of starting a fantasy army but i'm on the ropes about it.
USMCScSn 3 years ago
i was looking at wood elves yesterday dude you are a mind reader lol
DanielJarvis2k8 3 years ago
I love getting 3 spell singers (normally play at 1500 points) and just tree surf the whole game. It's even better with my treekin in the front of it. ;D
It's also great to get moonstone with a wardancer and a troupe, and just keep the enemy on their side while you shoot 'em down.
rezifox 3 years ago
On the fast cav moving thru the two units, you need to remember that the can not pass within 1" of the enemy units.
kkaammeekk 3 years ago
Wood Elves are my favorite Fantasy army. I think Dryads deserve a mention. They are pretty devastating with their high strength, high toughness and fear-causing ability. I like to include units of 8 in my army.
wolfofmagdeburg 3 years ago
Someones' addicted to fantasyyyyy :)
Kriegfreak 3 years ago
I've never been a fantasy fan, and to be completely honest, I would rather these videos be about 40k. Though I appreciate Shawn's expert knowledge in the fantasy realm. Also most of the previous videos have been about 40k, so I suppose it's time for some of these videos to be about fantasy.
Theownera 3 years ago