"There is no heaven, there is no hell; only this world and its dark reflection, and we do not know in which of the two worlds we are." - Sherry Hacket
This song finally does the bass right. I've searched for months to find a truly good dubstep song, and I had almost given up hope until I heard this song.
@slyscafe hope for this genre? dubstep is dubstep if you have searched 1 month to find 1 good dubstep song then dubstep might not be your music mate, there are so many awesome dubstep songs xD
@GTAStoast JavanDee - And Then we Kiss still probably the best chillstep I`ve heard with a humming bass and great vocals. :)) Check it out if you want!
making them just as probable as any of the other infinite things that have no evidence. lets say probability big bang (for argument sake) is 20% probably true. and 80% is everyhting we have no evidence for.
many ppl would say god (which is in the 80%) is bigger than the 20%
but god has to share that 80% with infinite other things. like the universe is toilet paper on turtles back.
@mewingkitty i don't know if you're referring to my first or second comment. either way, i didn't use any logic. i stated the facts. it's hard to phrase my first point.
my first argument was describing what logic actually is.
most atheists just say it's logical to...
i'm breaking down what logic is. theists clearly don't have use "logic." so saying atheism is logical is pointless. but maybe theists can recognize that 0% is less than the probability of any other option.
You didn't break anything down. What you're doing is yelling at a bunch of pidgeons... LOGIC!!! and expecting them to start to think. You have to bridge gaps with people... you can't assume they are coming from where you are and that they'll understand. You have to build up to that. What you've done is yell at them and not discuss anything.
@mewingkitty i'm avoiding the whole 'yelling logic at them.' every argument assumes the other person has and is using logic.
mine doesn't.
mine uses the basic math that's in your subconscious that you use to make decisions (that's logic. the system or principles of reasoning) i'm getting at the basis of what that system sits upon (and that's the ability to know the value of a number (ie. 2=1+1, 3=1+1+1)) that's not logic.
@mewingkitty look, i could just start at "prove it," or, "how do you know?" or "what evidence do you have?"
i've done that enough times. it always ends in essentially them saying: "the complexity of everything is enough to trigger my faith." it never ends in "you're right, there isn't a god"
you'll never get that. it'll end on faith.
and that's where i started:
"besides faith, there is no evidence for the existence of god."
@jkjkjij22 Your attempts at sounding logical just make you sound like you don't know what you're talking about. It seems more like you look at other people's arguments elsewhere and then try to copy what they did without even grasping the whole subject or point.
Brotip: Atheists with any kind of sense wont try the "no evidence" approach because its countered by "no evidence either way" which is also a logical approach. Atheism =/= enlightened or logical by default, idiots exist on both sides.
@OmegaDuo1 i said "it's hard to phrase my first point." it's an original thought. what it "seems like..." idk what to say to that. it's similar to when people say "if you believe in god, you have to believe in big foot." again. i'm giving the math that u do to in your subconscious to conclude the two are the same.
i know there are dumb people everywhere. never said otherwise. why are u bringing up things i didn't address? and brining in what it "seems" like.
@jkjkjij22 First off, saying straight out "The big bang which is probably 20% true" is a big mistake as that is simply a theory. Out of nothingness things just exploded into existence and nobody knows a cause. In science there is cause and effect and the theories for the big bang range from a star exploding/imploding into existence and then starting to form matter to two parallel universes colliding and the resulting collision spawning all matter. Basically there are tons of theories on what
@jkjkjij22 The big bang even was, therefore they're able to simply sit it up there as a concept with a number of different possibilities as to how it was caused and that way if any one of the reasons turns out right then they can chalk it up as a win for science, however, theories by virtue are not facts and aren't yet proven. There may be things that one might look at as proof like the expanding universe or what have you but in the end, ironically, the big bang is the science equivalent of god
@jkjkjij22 So the first mistake you make is attempting to sound enlightened by equating god to "universe being tissue on a turtles back" because as far as we know the big bang could have been an alien farting and our entire universe is in its ass crack. You can't give more weight to one theory over another, its just not how it works. Also, like the many theories to what the big bang was there are many theories to what gods could be, from aliens to important humans, simply tossing out a
@jkjkjij22 blanket statement and trying to say "this is blank" wont work for something this complex. So now that you've had a bit of pier review you can go back and make a better argument.
Oh and big foot could be real for all we know lol. The outlandishness of a theory shouldn't undermine its validity. That kind of thinking is what held science back for so long.
2. i was using bigfoot as a placeholder for supernatural phenomenon.
3. if there's one thing i've learnt in my 3 years of studying science, it is that Theories are the highest "label" that a scientific explanation can achieve. it's the big band theory, the theory of evolution, the theory of gravity.
i can't get into the different hypothesis behind big bang, but certain models/hypothesis better fir observed data... =higher probability.
@OmegaDuo1 the big bang isn't "simply a theory" just as gravity isn't just* a theory. they earned that title because of the outcome of tested propositions.
unlike what you said, the big bang is as fundamentally true in science as most other theories.
supernatural things aren't theories, they're not even hypothesis. there is a clear distinction.
theories are based off tested facts. the supernatural is based off faith or argument from incredulity and has no value..
@jkjkjij22 Oh dear. Well first off I'm going to have to say that any and everything you claimed up to this point about your knowledge just took a credibility hit when you referred to gravity as a theory. Which tells me you don't know what a theory actually is. Theory is knowledge that hasn't been disproved by experiment. The only distinction between big foot and big bang is the respect they garner. You can look at big foot as super natural or as crypto zoology.
@OmegaDuo1 you're right in that theories are explanations that haven't been disproven. but they must also be testable and disprovable.
also, you don't observe anything from theories. you look at what the theory describes, and see if it can predict something. ie. "according to the theory, i expect to observe X," then by doing it, you are testing the theory.
you can disprove gravity (the one described in the theory of general relativity)
@jkjkjij22 Theories aren't "based on tested facts" they're based on knowledge of the world around you. You observe something, form a theory, then try and disprove it. There is plenty of value in all theories. Being so quick to shut out something as having no value is a good way to stunt your intellectual growth. Oh and gravity is a phenomenon. Not a theory. There are theories about it yes, but it is not a theory itself. You can't disprove gravity.
@OmegaDuo1 right, "based off tested facts" was terrible wording on my part. theories derive from observations and attempt to (predictably and verifiably) explain the observations.
there's the Neuton's Law of Universal Gravitation (that just says that things have mass).
which has been succeeded by the Theory of General Relativity (which explains the gravitational attraction between things).
gravity isn't the phenomena, the attraction is the phenomena.
@jkjkjij22@jkjkjij22 I mean that you observe the world and then form your theory. An apple falls on your head = observation. Theory as to why soon follows. Theories don't come first, observations do followed by the testing of the theory. And no you can't disprove gravity. You can disprove the theory of relativity as that is something related to gravity but you can't go and say "there is nothing pulling things to the earth and here is why" because gravity is just there. Physics is my forte
@jkjkjij22 so trust me on that one. Also gravity is the name given to the phenomena of the attraction. And theories aren't always immediately disprovable however. We can't go back in time and watch it happen. The best we can do is form alternate theories. As our understanding grows we can look for things that may fit but we'll always be lacking in that area. Same goes for a lot of other highly respectable theories.
@OmegaDuo1 right. i agree with all that (b4 we had diff definitions for what "gravity" describes; theory, or attraction).
i haven't taken a course on the big bang theory.
but it must be disprovable to be classified as a theory.
in bio (my forte :P): chimps have 24 chromosomes, humans 23. if evolution occurred, 2 of the chromosomes must have fused. which was the case: (chromosome 2 in humans are 2 chromosomes in chimp)
theories need an: "if A happened, then B must be observed"
@jkjkjij22 my argument is that there are "ideas" that have, consistently, explained things.
and 'ideas' that are not, naturally, testable (ergo "Super"natural), but there are an infinite amount of "supernaturals" (by definition cannot be verified) and rely solely on faith. although none impossible, it's illogical to say that one* is more probable.
btw. i appreciate this. i'm learning stuff/developing ideas.
i don't think either of us are entirely right. so i value this discussion.
@jkjkjij22 I believe it takes a similar amount of faith for most theories, you have to go out on a limb first and then try and prove things. There are snags you'll hit though like trying to prove gods or ghosts, but as intellectuals I think its better to at least be open to other ideas, not necessarily believe in all things but just understanding on some level. I've enjoyed this little discussion as well. Always good to exercise those thinking "muscles"
This song makes me want to strip naked, burst out of my room window,? free fall 21 floors,? land in the snow, make a snow angel, shiver from the cold, get hypothermia, DIE!, go the pearly gate, say whats up to? Saint Peter, do our secret hand shake, look in the directory for Buddha, find Him, have? Him reincarnate me into a frog, meet a? princess, kiss her, turn into a prince,? order my subjects to bring me a? computer, listen to this song again, and cry myself to sleep
sent fucking chills down my back on the drop. Still doing it as i am typing. I continue to turn this up as loud as my headphones will let me. FUCKING GREAT :D.
@IGroomsI Tempo doesn't define genre. Plus music tends to incorporate more than one genre anyway, and since dubstep is largely derived from dnb, I'd say it's both. :)
@17tumba i agree, this is the best dubstep i've ever heard, so many details, so well built, emotional. like the song name, in heaven... that's where I am when I'm listening to this. 2 bad people can get this masterpiece for free, Shem deserves much for making this.
@naruto19216802 If you dip your finger in the ocean, and take it out, the water that remains on your finger represents the Earth (and everything good and bad in it). And the rest of the Ocean... That's Heaven or Hell my friend.
Beautiful..
ReincarnationDubstep 3 days ago
if this channel asked me to go around the world and kill every single hippos out there i would do it that is how much i LOVE THIS CHANNEL <3
MrDePlam 1 week ago
this is one of the best songs i've ever heard
darkslayer812 1 week ago
Bioshock:)
Orangeensaft 1 week ago 5
this is so pearl
ThatKidCanBall1234 2 weeks ago
I was in wood and so High,can describe feeling with this sick track..
Love it :)
stefankyokushin 2 weeks ago
jolly good show old chap.....this is f#cking AMAZING....so beautiful and if anyone says otherwise i will find you....
clochardcravate 2 weeks ago
This is amazing!
alexrits42 2 weeks ago
OMG<3<3<3
FlummRiix 2 weeks ago
HOLY!
EcentC 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from 17tumba
Fuck tumba!
That's the reason why I subbed you and love all your posts. They fucking make. my. day!!!!!
maximilianwallis 3 weeks ago
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
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"There is no heaven, there is no hell; only this world and its dark reflection, and we do not know in which of the two worlds we are." - Sherry Hacket
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holyshitcockballs 3 weeks ago
lady in the radiator
hammertimevice 3 weeks ago
holy fuck that's nasty
spawnofagod 1 month ago
Bioshock pic ftw
MB4R3AL 1 month ago 5
I got caught rubbin my dub.
crimsonmaple1 1 month ago
haaa -- ha aaa true :) or stone deaf xD
hondirrdurr 1 month ago
21 people are not human.
Unishiru 1 month ago
FUCKING KILLER
XXxxSuperCxxXX 1 month ago
yea dats enough action alright
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splintercellsz 1 month ago
When I'm listening to this I've got weird shakes.
pajerek96 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
This song was already amazing before it was dub but now it just makes my soul melt to pieces!
DazesStarchylde 1 month ago
I love this song so much
DJOMENPRODUCTIONS 1 month ago
SSSPPPRRRRRRR!!!!
memet120 1 month ago
This is ng far the rarest song since DRAXTER IN MY DREAMS
DJOMENPRODUCTIONS 1 month ago
Bioshock and DubStep thats everything what you need <3
DeepBlueMoon93 1 month ago 2
Wow... I was just listeing to the helios playlist and I certainly did not expect this. I'm so glad it's on there though! <3
TheArtisticKitsune 1 month ago in playlist helios 3
the 99.9 fm ad is the most annoying ad in the world. It feels like a subliminal propaganda assault on my brain.
psythefry 1 month ago
bioshock?
deadlocked12 1 month ago 2
This song finally does the bass right. I've searched for months to find a truly good dubstep song, and I had almost given up hope until I heard this song.
There is hope for this genre, after all.
slyscafe 1 month ago 23
@slyscafe yea but his other stuff is really bad
RayDafizzler 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@slyscafe hope for this genre? dubstep is dubstep if you have searched 1 month to find 1 good dubstep song then dubstep might not be your music mate, there are so many awesome dubstep songs xD
lennart29 3 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Helios 8
i still love this dubstep version *drools on acid while listening to it*
graphoid2 1 month ago
look at the dislike button (Justin Biebers dick)
Louis45xc 1 month ago
@Louis45xc Justin Bieber has a dick? I thought Selena Gomez just turned lesbian!!! XD
ShadowBelmont22 1 month ago
@ShadowBelmont22 Nooo Selena is transsexual and she`s the one with the balls xD..That`s why she left him :P cause he don´t have balls
Xess4one 1 month ago
My favourite song at the moment.
GTAStoast 1 month ago 3
@GTAStoast JavanDee - And Then we Kiss still probably the best chillstep I`ve heard with a humming bass and great vocals. :)) Check it out if you want!
hole2score 1 month ago
19 people chose harvest, rather than rescue...
Piesandbombs 2 months ago in playlist smoothstep
delirious
petiatemelkova 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Helios
Holy fuck I just remembered this song(In heaven) is on Eraserhead. .-.
acidsyringe69 2 months ago in playlist More videos from 17tumba
Bioshock. <3
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@pongping690 If it isnt from Bioshock its certainly taken a lot of inspiration from it.
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MrDiggertron5000 2 months ago
FUCK YEAH, BF3. oh thats not the video? Pre-awesome, wooooo!
ChildoftheKoRnf9 2 months ago
i love it <3
DemoTheDude 2 months ago
slow dub ftw!
AndwnhsX 2 months ago 29
@AndwnhsX It's called Liquid Dubstep, bro ;)
ardoalg 2 months ago
@ardoalg hah.i love it!
AndwnhsX 2 months ago
@AndwnhsX its called chillstep brah
arthas005 3 weeks ago
SIIIIIIIIIICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iberaha 2 months ago
love this pic
Petemmure420 2 months ago
EVERYBODY STFU AND PLAY NICE. Also. I <3 Shem <3
VideoCoMa 2 months ago
that child is so ugly... FUCKIN' UGLY!!!!
TheGregane 3 months ago
are yall joking me? v v v v enjoy the song not the pleasure you get by argueing
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Thumbs up if you downloaded the picture and put it on your desktop :P :D
mkaramitev 3 months ago
shem is such an incrredibile artist....pure art
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dreams come true :D Trip time ...
seric00 3 months ago
you say this is sick?! It's pretty lame and chill..
tuge420 3 months ago
DA IAD...PROBABIL CELE MAI BUNE AM AUZIT
ross321975 3 months ago
heaven/hell/god all probably don't exist.
there is no evidence for any of the above.
making them just as probable as any of the other infinite things that have no evidence. lets say probability big bang (for argument sake) is 20% probably true. and 80% is everyhting we have no evidence for.
many ppl would say god (which is in the 80%) is bigger than the 20%
but god has to share that 80% with infinite other things. like the universe is toilet paper on turtles back.
80%/nifinity = essently 0% god
jkjkjij22 3 months ago in playlist 17tumba - My Current Playlist
@jkjkjij22 bitch please god DOES exist. ;-]
or accept the fact that ur a monkey ;-}
tixerakias123 3 months ago
@tixerakias123 sorry, but besides faith, there is no evidence for the existence of god.
I am a monkey.
primates are divided into new-world and old-world monkeys. new world is divided into ape and human.
but i think you're trying to say i'm a chimpanzee. in which case, no. i'm not. I'm a human. and there is a difference. that has evolved.
Bitch, don't start with me. least not till you stop acting like a chimp, and start start using the brain in your head.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
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You're an idiot.
mewingkitty 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22
I'm an atheist, but that's the worst attempt at logic that I've ever seen. You're making the rest of us look bad. Stop it.
mewingkitty 3 months ago
@mewingkitty i don't know if you're referring to my first or second comment. either way, i didn't use any logic. i stated the facts. it's hard to phrase my first point.
my first argument was describing what logic actually is.
most atheists just say it's logical to...
i'm breaking down what logic is. theists clearly don't have use "logic." so saying atheism is logical is pointless. but maybe theists can recognize that 0% is less than the probability of any other option.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22
You didn't break anything down. What you're doing is yelling at a bunch of pidgeons... LOGIC!!! and expecting them to start to think. You have to bridge gaps with people... you can't assume they are coming from where you are and that they'll understand. You have to build up to that. What you've done is yell at them and not discuss anything.
mewingkitty 3 months ago
@mewingkitty i'm avoiding the whole 'yelling logic at them.' every argument assumes the other person has and is using logic.
mine doesn't.
mine uses the basic math that's in your subconscious that you use to make decisions (that's logic. the system or principles of reasoning) i'm getting at the basis of what that system sits upon (and that's the ability to know the value of a number (ie. 2=1+1, 3=1+1+1)) that's not logic.
my argument is that 20 is greater than 0.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@mewingkitty look, i could just start at "prove it," or, "how do you know?" or "what evidence do you have?"
i've done that enough times. it always ends in essentially them saying: "the complexity of everything is enough to trigger my faith." it never ends in "you're right, there isn't a god"
you'll never get that. it'll end on faith.
and that's where i started:
"besides faith, there is no evidence for the existence of god."
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 Your attempts at sounding logical just make you sound like you don't know what you're talking about. It seems more like you look at other people's arguments elsewhere and then try to copy what they did without even grasping the whole subject or point.
Brotip: Atheists with any kind of sense wont try the "no evidence" approach because its countered by "no evidence either way" which is also a logical approach. Atheism =/= enlightened or logical by default, idiots exist on both sides.
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 i said "it's hard to phrase my first point." it's an original thought. what it "seems like..." idk what to say to that. it's similar to when people say "if you believe in god, you have to believe in big foot." again. i'm giving the math that u do to in your subconscious to conclude the two are the same.
i know there are dumb people everywhere. never said otherwise. why are u bringing up things i didn't address? and brining in what it "seems" like.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 take a step back. look at my argument systematically. (one point at a time). what's the first flaw you come across?
i'm not trying to argue and prove i'm right. i know my argument is sound. I don't know how best to phrase something that is in your subconscious.
i'm genuinely interested in the flaws so i can make my idea more sound. peer review, if you will. one point at a time pls.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 First off, saying straight out "The big bang which is probably 20% true" is a big mistake as that is simply a theory. Out of nothingness things just exploded into existence and nobody knows a cause. In science there is cause and effect and the theories for the big bang range from a star exploding/imploding into existence and then starting to form matter to two parallel universes colliding and the resulting collision spawning all matter. Basically there are tons of theories on what
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 The big bang even was, therefore they're able to simply sit it up there as a concept with a number of different possibilities as to how it was caused and that way if any one of the reasons turns out right then they can chalk it up as a win for science, however, theories by virtue are not facts and aren't yet proven. There may be things that one might look at as proof like the expanding universe or what have you but in the end, ironically, the big bang is the science equivalent of god
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 So the first mistake you make is attempting to sound enlightened by equating god to "universe being tissue on a turtles back" because as far as we know the big bang could have been an alien farting and our entire universe is in its ass crack. You can't give more weight to one theory over another, its just not how it works. Also, like the many theories to what the big bang was there are many theories to what gods could be, from aliens to important humans, simply tossing out a
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 blanket statement and trying to say "this is blank" wont work for something this complex. So now that you've had a bit of pier review you can go back and make a better argument.
Oh and big foot could be real for all we know lol. The outlandishness of a theory shouldn't undermine its validity. That kind of thinking is what held science back for so long.
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 1. thank you for the responce.
2. i was using bigfoot as a placeholder for supernatural phenomenon.
3. if there's one thing i've learnt in my 3 years of studying science, it is that Theories are the highest "label" that a scientific explanation can achieve. it's the big band theory, the theory of evolution, the theory of gravity.
i can't get into the different hypothesis behind big bang, but certain models/hypothesis better fir observed data... =higher probability.
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jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 the big bang isn't "simply a theory" just as gravity isn't just* a theory. they earned that title because of the outcome of tested propositions.
unlike what you said, the big bang is as fundamentally true in science as most other theories.
supernatural things aren't theories, they're not even hypothesis. there is a clear distinction.
theories are based off tested facts. the supernatural is based off faith or argument from incredulity and has no value..
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 Oh dear. Well first off I'm going to have to say that any and everything you claimed up to this point about your knowledge just took a credibility hit when you referred to gravity as a theory. Which tells me you don't know what a theory actually is. Theory is knowledge that hasn't been disproved by experiment. The only distinction between big foot and big bang is the respect they garner. You can look at big foot as super natural or as crypto zoology.
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 you're right in that theories are explanations that haven't been disproven. but they must also be testable and disprovable.
also, you don't observe anything from theories. you look at what the theory describes, and see if it can predict something. ie. "according to the theory, i expect to observe X," then by doing it, you are testing the theory.
you can disprove gravity (the one described in the theory of general relativity)
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 Theories aren't "based on tested facts" they're based on knowledge of the world around you. You observe something, form a theory, then try and disprove it. There is plenty of value in all theories. Being so quick to shut out something as having no value is a good way to stunt your intellectual growth. Oh and gravity is a phenomenon. Not a theory. There are theories about it yes, but it is not a theory itself. You can't disprove gravity.
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 right, "based off tested facts" was terrible wording on my part. theories derive from observations and attempt to (predictably and verifiably) explain the observations.
there's the Neuton's Law of Universal Gravitation (that just says that things have mass).
which has been succeeded by the Theory of General Relativity (which explains the gravitational attraction between things).
gravity isn't the phenomena, the attraction is the phenomena.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 @jkjkjij22 I mean that you observe the world and then form your theory. An apple falls on your head = observation. Theory as to why soon follows. Theories don't come first, observations do followed by the testing of the theory. And no you can't disprove gravity. You can disprove the theory of relativity as that is something related to gravity but you can't go and say "there is nothing pulling things to the earth and here is why" because gravity is just there. Physics is my forte
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 so trust me on that one. Also gravity is the name given to the phenomena of the attraction. And theories aren't always immediately disprovable however. We can't go back in time and watch it happen. The best we can do is form alternate theories. As our understanding grows we can look for things that may fit but we'll always be lacking in that area. Same goes for a lot of other highly respectable theories.
OmegaDuo1 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 right. i agree with all that (b4 we had diff definitions for what "gravity" describes; theory, or attraction).
i haven't taken a course on the big bang theory.
but it must be disprovable to be classified as a theory.
in bio (my forte :P): chimps have 24 chromosomes, humans 23. if evolution occurred, 2 of the chromosomes must have fused. which was the case: (chromosome 2 in humans are 2 chromosomes in chimp)
theories need an: "if A happened, then B must be observed"
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@OmegaDuo1 maybe classifications for what can be "theory" in physics/astronomy/etc. are different and less strick than in bio.
at least in bio, it takes a long time and lots of data for an idea to become a "theory," and "theories" are generally accepted as "facts" and "laws"
the "supernatural" god that i'm arguing is the one that 'made the universe as it is now"
i can't argue against the hypothesis that 'a universal consciousness triggered the big bang'
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 my argument is that there are "ideas" that have, consistently, explained things.
and 'ideas' that are not, naturally, testable (ergo "Super"natural), but there are an infinite amount of "supernaturals" (by definition cannot be verified) and rely solely on faith. although none impossible, it's illogical to say that one* is more probable.
btw. i appreciate this. i'm learning stuff/developing ideas.
i don't think either of us are entirely right. so i value this discussion.
jkjkjij22 3 months ago
@jkjkjij22 I believe it takes a similar amount of faith for most theories, you have to go out on a limb first and then try and prove things. There are snags you'll hit though like trying to prove gods or ghosts, but as intellectuals I think its better to at least be open to other ideas, not necessarily believe in all things but just understanding on some level. I've enjoyed this little discussion as well. Always good to exercise those thinking "muscles"
OmegaDuo1 2 months ago
@OmegaDuo1
we still have different wighting for "theory"
i'll paraphrase your point into my understanding:
"it takes faith for most hypothesis" and when a hypothesis is fulfilled consistently, it can be considered a theory.
in terms of big bang, i have faith in the scientific community, not the theory.
i definitely don't discredit any supernaturals.
i always say there's 100% probability that god exists (in theory). but for practical reasons (in the real world) i treat that probability as 0%.
jkjkjij22 2 months ago
so awesome!
i love the length.
finally a song i don't feel has been cut short.
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Sickest Drop I Have Ever Heard.
CHUGGSMANUGGS 3 months ago
terriblle
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this... is... so... GODLIKE!
Neliith 3 months ago
@Neliith HÅLLER MED
ItsBob4Sure 3 months ago
I don't wanna live in this system anymore! Someone has to get us out of this hell please >.<
PotEye420 3 months ago
BIOSHOCK!
perfect combo...
justsomeguy4444 4 months ago
Shivers down my spine every time!
GREMLlN 4 months ago
Holy fuck I hate my ISP, if there's anyone associated with DC reading this, fuck you.
Flicker455 4 months ago
13 people are burning in hell
majlathda 4 months ago
nice inclusion of bioshock wallpaper
lighttofu 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Helios
Hes obviously sheilding her from a shower of sparks.. But why it was played on a chess board is beyond me o_0
kypedTswiper 4 months ago
@kypedTswiper it's bullets, not sparks ;) This is one of the few i ALWAYS come back to, loving it ;)
GTTwincam 4 months ago
SHEM DUBSTEP REMIXES 4 EVA` !!!!!! (-_(-_-)_-)
Cipei 4 months ago 13
Gotta admit this is pretty sick nd definately 3P1K!!!
agr20ful1 4 months ago
wow i freakin love this song
smurfmuncher 4 months ago
bioshock photos , just beautiful !
TheDeadlySister 4 months ago
i sneezed so hard i pooped a little
swiftyninja420 4 months ago
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This song makes me want to strip naked, burst out of my room window,? free fall 21 floors,? land in the snow, make a snow angel, shiver from the cold, get hypothermia, DIE!, go the pearly gate, say whats up to? Saint Peter, do our secret hand shake, look in the directory for Buddha, find Him, have? Him reincarnate me into a frog, meet a? princess, kiss her, turn into a prince,? order my subjects to bring me a? computer, listen to this song again, and cry myself to sleep
QsTsuRge 4 months ago
kurevsky dobre!!! excellent!!!
radovan511 4 months ago in playlist Chillstep
<3...
cleudie9 5 months ago
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Im not gonna lie this is pretty cool well if you like dubstep music check out my channel oh yeah and i forgot to mention free downloads no biggie
IHeartDubstepMusic 5 months ago
BIOSHOCK!!! >;D
metalhedsm101 5 months ago
What Human ON Earth Would Dislike This Massive Filthy Dubstep Track ??:O
FuhkTards These days .. Smfh
demma818 5 months ago 2
when the bass dropped i jizzed.
kingmaulr 5 months ago 3
Thought provoking man this is awesome subscribed!
Heeleos 5 months ago
Haa kurwa Polak !
7DelMatizo 5 months ago 3
@7DelMatizo hehe, ano
Shemassault 5 months ago
SICK!AWESOME!
Try on weed!
stefankyokushin 5 months ago 3
signed in just so i could like this. and that means ALOT.
DLuds10 5 months ago in playlist Dubstep & DnB
This isent free anymore?
Playajoe8080 5 months ago
@Playajoe8080 Yeah it still is. You just got to go to the site in the description and click download then enter 0.00 in the amount willing to pay :)
sumoraiX 5 months ago
sent fucking chills down my back on the drop. Still doing it as i am typing. I continue to turn this up as loud as my headphones will let me. FUCKING GREAT :D.
Dibessolutions 5 months ago in playlist TheSquidKiller's Favorited Videos
only one need to be said about this.... hgvfdghjkghfjxdhcfgjkhhbgvfraikjugyftrijgfvdrgthj oh sorry about that i had to wipe the cum off my keyboard.
TheTm0n 6 months ago 2
listening to this + reading alien conspiracy stories at night =getting paranoid as fuck
Gdain1 6 months ago 29
@Gdain1 Listening to this+ Doing 3 hits of acid = Getting freaked out as fucked
BaberzNumpty 4 months ago in playlist More videos from 17tumba
100% Argry and 100% Happy ♣♥
nvidia51 6 months ago
Waited long time for the drop, but worth it 100% !
sprxkit 6 months ago
TOBUSCUS ADD!!!
WIN!
waffen137 6 months ago
the drop busted my ears...
CreamWalk 6 months ago
M A G I C
st00r 6 months ago
Alright, lets all go hug some Big Daddies.
DramaTiqq 6 months ago
amazing background pic
jackabc45 6 months ago
HELP!! i can't stop listening to it !!!
zeitguy311 6 months ago
is there any other dubstep this good? i doubt it
zeitguy311 6 months ago
When I heard This sOnG i StoMped DowN LikE a TRanSforMer....YAGA!!
zeitguy311 6 months ago
My jizz pattern spelled out Helios on my desk!
Pa1ntch3ck 6 months ago
The dislike bar is like YOUR Sister's penis! It Doesn't Exist!
vitaminsDnB 6 months ago 2
awesome.
MacmepJIoMacmep 6 months ago
Dubstep is such a random genre!
Some is The shit, some are just plain shit
mackroh 6 months ago
@mackroh This is Neurofunk :P
DramaTiqq 6 months ago
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IGroomsI 6 months ago in playlist The dubstep playlist
@IGroomsI Tempo doesn't define genre. Plus music tends to incorporate more than one genre anyway, and since dubstep is largely derived from dnb, I'd say it's both. :)
ravelikearobot 6 months ago
@mackroh fuck off, if u dont like dont comment
TheTm0n 6 months ago
@TheTm0n
Ooh you most be one of those monkeys with down syndrome?
Because obviously I refer this song to the "THE Shit" category, not the "plain shit" category.
mackroh 6 months ago
@mackroh gtfomf
TheTm0n 6 months ago
i j1:55ed.
ResistanceOfTheFlood 6 months ago
i <3 good dubstep
MegaRutters 6 months ago
11 people have busted speakers and are half deaf.
lilsadi80 6 months ago
@17tumba i agree, this is the best dubstep i've ever heard, so many details, so well built, emotional. like the song name, in heaven... that's where I am when I'm listening to this. 2 bad people can get this masterpiece for free, Shem deserves much for making this.
Aquaruf 7 months ago
When I heard this song, I stopped licking myself.
Jij333 7 months ago 5
@Jij333 wtf
CrazyDayDreamer69 7 months ago in playlist liquid dubstep
@Jij333 When I heard this song, I stopped masturbating myself
animetsumetai 7 months ago
holy sweet mother of god
bLindSC2 7 months ago
BIOSHOCK FTW :D
Bounty8472 7 months ago
not bad, i was stunned for a sec, no time to reflect
actionoob 7 months ago
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watch?v=ujG-btNY5Qo <------ Dubstep Art!!!
sinfuledge 7 months ago
badass picture, i jizzed when I got halfway through, whoooraawww
therealcanyon 7 months ago
daaaymn! that was sickkkk!!!!!
mungkey 7 months ago
It's not bad. But the original shits all over this remix.
senman6 7 months ago
@senman6 Whatever your crack dealer is charging you isn't enough he obviously has some amazing stuff.
botato3 7 months ago
it would be nice if you credited the original song
gunsmithbasic 7 months ago
beauty in the form of sound
J1a9m9e5s 7 months ago
there is no heaven
there is no hell
there is only this world and it's dark reflection
and we do not which of the two worlds we are.
naruto19216802 7 months ago 13
@naruto19216802 not necessarily the truth, mind you =)
Xeher1990 3 months ago
@Xeher1990 Hell is earth!
naruto19216802 3 months ago
@naruto19216802 If you dip your finger in the ocean, and take it out, the water that remains on your finger represents the Earth (and everything good and bad in it). And the rest of the Ocean... That's Heaven or Hell my friend.
Xeher1990 3 months ago