Pain Management a health care FAILURE and TRAVESTY

[pjamesbda]

Ted, here is a fresh perspective...the numbers of ppl who ARE subscribed to pain relievers, and suffer from permanent addiction is astounding. A Pharmacist explain many of these drugs permanently inhibit the brains ability to naturally adjust to pain, and this change is damage to the actual nervous system done by those drugs. PERMANENT!!

THIS is why the big hold up on pain management. They have let a pain management pandemic out of the bag now, and they don't know how to put it back!

[hotchicksandpuppies]

Thanks for the video, I just woke up in pain. I agree 100%. I had back surgery 6 years ago, and went through all this shit. I have given up with all of these bitch doctors. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I watch as people with no medical problem get stuff handed to them, and the people with real problems get sent on their way. Wake up America.

[GriffinElliot]

Precisely why we need strong STATE governments & REGIONAL healthcare. Chronic pain management can best be done by those who R providing care. The federal government shouldn't have CRAP to do with this. STATE governments should have the sole power to regulate the pharmacutical situation, by the direction of the VOTES or will of the people. Erie, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Allentown, Scranton, Philadelphia- for PA, these would be good regions. BETTER healthcare!

[Zyworski]

There is no need to advocate on behalf of the medical profession they already have powerful lobbies that protect their interests. This is a hot button issue with no easy answers and the governments attempts to legislate a remedy just go to show how impossible it is to tell what another human being is feeling, or their biological response to medication.

[Zyworski]

Let me make this short and sweet.

1. A family member has died from overdose while using a fentanyl patch, and oral analgesics simultaneously. She was a medical professional.

2. Someone close to me became addicted and was buying prescriptions and half prescriptions from patients that were selling their drugs for cash. Overdosed and died.

3. It is as common in low income housing projects to buy analgesics from medicare patients who are trying to generate income.

There are 2 sides to this issue.

[tenebroust]

@Zyworski Yes there is, as with any issue. Sorry for your loss.

[66sicksfishstix]

the biggest health care problem is that cannabis is illegal.

i agree with everything you said. well done. the only thing is that cannabinoids and opioids work on pain but only the opioids carry a bad addiction profile. let's do what you said but have the patient try cannabis for their pain first. if that doesn't work come back for the Rx.

legalize all plants.

[alleygh0st]

BS, like so many ''managements'' out there...

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

The DEA is an Unconstitutional international paramilitary terrorist organization not bound by law to obey their own top judge. They are openly operating in contempt of court ignoring the rulings of their last TWO judges.

[secretbubba3]

Another thing that gets me is the amount of people that live with chronic pain. I have it to a point but am able to manage it through stretching, chiropractic care and acupuncture. I played contact sports but is chronic pain so common because of the food industry? I feel like we are being poisoned and this is one of the side effects.

[secretbubba3]

Doctors prescribe oxy 80mg for a sprained ankle. Now here is another question I have, If 90% of the oxy 80mg drug is sold illegally why does the government let them over produce the produce? It's sad that the people who need it can't get it and the ones who abuse it can get it no problem.

[tenebroust]

@secretbubba3 Indeed that is a problem.

[tenebroust]

@tenebroust However I would also say that the issue of illegally available prescription drugs is overblown and may be the only route to pain relief for some.

[ThePeopleneedhelp]

@tenebroust ey tenebroust guess what i just found out.......people can spend there hole life using the sun to stay ungerless .its called sun gazing we can solve world hunger.

[ThePeopleneedhelp]

@ThePeopleneedhelp and not only does it stop hunger and feed you, it heals diseases and is free energy. anoter is qi gong

[secretbubba3]

@tenebroust I believe (may not be accurate) that the illegal availability may be geographical. I know Florida is out of control and my area is too. My area the illegal pills come from corrupt doctors and are smuggled up from Florida. I've had family and friends that have died from the abuse of them. The family member started out with chronic pain and started abusing and the friend was just abusing. I also have an aunt who can't function without them because of pain.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

@secretbubba3 "Doctors prescribe oxy 80mg for a sprained ankle." Bull. Fucking. Shit. I have chronic back pain often verging on crippling and I can't even get some pathetic vicodin without spending over $100 a month on a "specialist". Fuck you pig.

[secretbubba3]

@bamboo4tameshigiri Like I said it's sad the people who need it don't get it but the addicts "who don't need it" get their hands on it through "doctor shopping" in my city and believe me I see it everyday. Some doctors get kick backs for the scrip by the patient who sells it illegally. We have doctors getting indicted all the time and the regular doctors won't give you a script if your life depended on it. The system is completely screwed up! Now calling me a pig is a bit inappropriate.

[BunnySpry]

My reaction is I'm not surprised at all. I have suffered with chronic pain for 10 years of my life. No one cares. I have seen so many so called "medical professionals" about my pain that I've created a list so I can remind myself what a horrid country this is to live in if you are unwell. I don't have insurance because I can't work at all, I literally pass out if I'm forced to sit, stand or walk for very long. People in pain are treated abysmally here; I'm one of them.

[mia0899cs]

Great vid:) This is a huge problem!!!

[bassetter1]

well spoken . what is it with this "drugseeker"shit .of course people in pain will try to get the pills that help.

[tampabayismyhome]

Very few will become addicted most have addiction in their family or before they were put on the medication. But most will become physically dependent which is expected. A lot of doctors confuse these two. And because they do most patients are under medicated. And the media doesn't help by demonizing it all the time.

[patrick45sue]

We are so lucky in Australia,free health care doctor,hospital,whatever meds are around $5-$30.My doctor said doctors dont have a problem giving meds to the dying but dont like giving them to the living so they may live a full and happy life.I have a very good medical doctor..................

[munchkin365]

I've actually started growing my own opium poppies and have been reading up on how to harvest the opium which I plan to store until the day comes that it is needed. Google opium poppies it is possible to buy seeds online and the instructions are there as well.

[munchkin365]

Medical professionals are quite vile. In the UK it is quite common for doctors and nurses to steal the morphine of and then falsify the documents of cancer patients who are on their deathbeds dying from cancer. Basically they steal the morphine from dying people.

[AmegaZeroPointWand]

There are other alternatives for some pain. See these videos on my site.

Best of luck in your healing process.

[chazfensk]

I have been suffering with lower back and sciatic nerve pain for 5 1/2 years. I have been very fortunate with my doctor always making sure I have pain relief. However I have friends with severe pain that have had to pull teeth just to get some basic relief for their pain. I have never had a problem with addiction and if I ever do I'll deal with it then, In the mean time I know what it is like to have pain so bad that you don't want to live. I just want the pain to stop. That's all.

[cadauctions31]

There has to be a law put into place that protects the doctors and patients from false reports, and to protect patients from being taken off there meds when the urine test shows they are taking the meds.

[cadauctions31]

My wfie just got hers meds taken away because the person that stole six of her pills called and said she sold them. We have proof that he stole them but the doctor would not even look at it.

[tenebroust]

@cadauctions31 This is more of the same kind of nonsense that I am talking about. If healthcare reform is so important why not address a very real problem like this?

[patrick45sue]

@tenebroust in Australia you pay 1% of your income in tax to cover all medical treatment and I mean all....you dont pay any medical bills ever and always get medical treatment

[sjiz2kewl4u]

Can you come to my town and visit the doctor with me and be my health care advocate.... They have an answer for everything.

[tenebroust]

It is a shame that the need should even have to arise to ask for someone to do this. That is the horror of this system. I'm crying for change I hope I have some effect. I wish you good luck and wish you well.

[sjiz2kewl4u]

I wish you could come here and be my health care adovcate....

[mjd2491]

Pain clinics tend to have long waiting lists. I was lucky when my GP sent me and only had to wait a couple of weeks... but it's even hard for PM patients to get treatment. After three injuries to my right foot/ankle, I'm left with debilitating pain. The docs know they should treat, but the feds watch them like hawks as if they don't know HOW to treat. It's sad.

[flavacreations]

Thank you for this video.... I also have a disease called endometriosis that has attached itself too all my organs and has left me out of work and in so much pain some days i cant even get out of bed. I respect the fact that you put it out there what most think but dont have the gutts to say. Living in chronic pain is one of the worse things ever cuz u cant work, move, excerise, play with your children or sometimes even lift them up. Again thank you.

[leahcrow1]

i have a diease called endometriosis there is 4 stages to it i am stage 2 or 3 i had one surgery in 09 to remove it but it does not matter how many times they remove it it grows back its almost like cancer and its just as painful as cancer but its not cancer its sad people that don't have pain like us and they can get as much pain meds as they want with no questions asked and we have to suffer like this my pain is so unbearable i can barly get out of bed or walk or even stand for very long

[leahcrow1]

well said in this video i live in unbearable pain everyday and when i asked my reg doctor and a other doctor i have if they would send me to pain management they said no that i need to just deal with it and they think i am a drug seeker and i am facking and making up the pain when i am not making it up i have a diease thats very painful and there is no cure for it or treament that really works the only thing that helps me is pain meds but my doctors are treating me like i am a drug seeker and

[tenebroust]

This is so WHY I did this video. I wish that more people would watch it and read the comments because it is such an important topic. I'm so sorry that you are suffering. You know just the demeaning nature of the term "drug seeker" is enough to tell you how they view you. It is a complete and total travesty.

[yourright100]

tenebroust>

Also, I would like to add the "dammed if I do, dammed if I don't"

because of the "rules" of seeking help for pain relief, it leaves a person helpless...ie..if 1 dr. says no and a person goes to another dr for help, then it's called "shopping for drugs" if I bring my husband to the dr for support, then he's an "enabler"

if I cry, then my pain is caused by depression, if I'm assertive, then the pain must be tolerable

So where and what the hell is a person to do? GOD HELP ME!

[tenebroust]

You are so absolutely right on the money. I am so glad you came upon my video. I really feel for you because people close to me are in the exact same situation.

[yourright100]

tenebroust>

Thanks for the response,which more than I have recieved from docs

I do gotta share something that at the time left me speechless...

After proclaiming my ills, the response from the "pain management" doc was..."Do you wear your seat-belt?"

Good heavens!...I was cured! lmFao!

Again thank you for your response, best to you and yours!

[tenebroust]

A friend had the exact same question put to her. I guess that is the standard "get out of my office you junkie" answer. This issue is really one that angers me.

[yourright100]

tenebroust> thank you thank you

at the age of 48 I asked for help with severe pain after multiple surgeries for various injuries

now 49yrs old and I have been called a "potential drug dealer" a "potential drug addict"

these personal attacks have left me depressed and many days bedridden to try and reduce pain with little relief

I am at a point of not caring if I were to become an addict as I want just some of my previous life back

If I dont ask for help,pain, if I do ask for help I'm shamed

[Deeppurple1972]

I freakin loved this guy, he speaks the truth on this very serious subject. I have MRI"S up the ass. I have had 4 surgeries this year and 2 of which were back surgeries and to my amazement they made it worse and didn't work. I was told by one Pain center that the only promblem I had was a substance problem, over the last 4 years of taking meds I have never ran out, lost or Dr. shopped. Dr. Lipn**ck is under qualified to be a Dr. I finally again found a caring and sensitive Dr. FLORIDA sucks ass

[BarbiM04]

I have lower back probs and Dr tried to get me to undergo serious operation with unsure outcome instead of offering me pain meds. Finally, he realized I am not a drug addict but just need help to live my normal life. The dr. gave me percs and it has helped quite a lot. I do not abuse it and take it only when needed. It should be our right to live day to day without unnecessary pain.

WTG ! Love the video

[darwin2469]

Tenebroust,

I have been living with a cervical disc problem for 5 years now. I have good insurance and have felt I have been pressured into surgery instead of pain management. Seems like I get referred from one doc to another and not one have said the surgery will fix the problem.

Seems its easier and less taboo to recommend a cervical fusion instead of proper pain management.

I have had 4 MRIs with 4 different diagnosis...... WTF

[tenebroust]

That's the real question. Why is there no attempt to address this very real issue?

[kaidsin]

I enjoy the anger. :)

[tenebroust]

I appreciate the W and C.

[getplaning]

My wife was a pain management therapist for a few years. She says insurance companies refer patients to pain management because it is less expensive than treatments that would correct the problem causing the pain in the first place. The patient gets a limited number of sessions, then they get cut off.

Conservatives always ask if you want a government bureaucrat making your health care decisions. This is misleading and false.

I always remind them that accountants are making the decisions now.

[tenebroust]

Good points, thank you.

[yogiudo]

tenebroust, I agree 100%, except - I don't think it is Lazy doctors. I think it is a BASTARDIZED GOVERNMENT MESSING WITH EVERYTHING.

Forcing people to observe totalitarian regulations on EVERYTHING.

[tenebroust]

That's on my list, the suckers.

[GaryNull]

The insurance companies need to go, . . .

Aside from that, . . drugs are not even needed most of the time. I dont' take any, not even aspirin.

PEOPLE NEED TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE STYLE AND TAKE THEIR HEALTH INTO THEIR OWN HANDS

Become vegan and 98% of all health problems (and pain) will disappear. I've done it and seen it. People eat foods that cause inflamation - which also causes pain. Foods like meat, dairy, hot dogs, bagels, etc. .

You must also exercise at least 5 times a week.

[aliandream]

i'am sorry to say but eating right and talking care of your self does not cure everything, i know i would not touch any thing that was not organic and worked out everyday, well my allergys got worse and end up getting asthma. which runs in my famliy. i've tryed everything and although they help. not enough, so i need a inhaler and a naseal spray. and i was layed off. from work, now i don't have insurance. i have enough hits for 3 weeks and then god help me! sometime people need the doctor.

[tenebroust]

Sorry to hear of your situation, thanks for commenting.

[GaryNull]

>> i would not touch any thing that was not organic . .

Can I ask you if you still eat dairy and meat?

[tenebroust]

Agreed. Pain medication is not a panacea for all things, lifestyle changes are very important as is exercise. However while someone struggles with making good choices and taking charge of their lives they may need help with pain medication, so I say the doctors should be giving it.

[smttysmth02gt]

I don't know man...it's hard to be so critical of an industry because the only answer is "more government regulations". This is a complex moral problem. On the one side, yes, it sucks that they are in pain and cannot afford the treatment they need. On the other hand, why should I have to pay for their treatment? It isn't my fault they're in pain. I know, it probably isn't theirs either but still.

There is no solution to this problem because either way we're fucked.

[tenebroust]

It's not about being able to afford it, you can be against socialized medicine, that's fine. What I'm against is the hesitancy of doctors to prescribe and insurance companies to cover medication that is available and the patient can afford that would absolutely help them.

[smttysmth02gt]

I see...so I was way off on what you meant. Personally, I have never dealt with, nor seen a situation like you described.

[tenebroust]

I hope you never do.

[55ella2007k]

I agree, it's a very serious problem. Especially when it comes chronic pain. Most doctors ARE overly afraid of over-prescribing certain classes of drugs because it COULD lead to an investigation by the FDA. This said, chronic pain IS difficult to manage with drugs alone, because the patient will eventually build up a higher tolerance level to opiates, rendering them ineffective after a few years. Other avenues must be explored, but of course BIG PHARMA doesn't want this to happen.

[tenebroust]

I'm not against exploring other options. By all means they should be tried, but in the meantime give the patients what they need to live a somewhat normal life.

[jakluk4]

such a great vlog........i cant say anymore then that my friend. wow!

[tenebroust]

Thanks J, I really appreciate the W and C.

[PASMdude]

There are few doctors in Texas that deal with pain management. It cost about 900 bucks per visit cash only. It is bullshit. I am sitting on my ass sucking up tax dollars when with the right meds I could probably work.

[tenebroust]

Exactly my point in spades.

[bgrim2008]

Uncle (Elite) "Kracker" KNOWS that marijuana in general helps treat pain, stress, anxiety, glaucoma, seizures, etc, ...Ya' Know...the Very SAME ailments THEY $ell you "Meds" for ?

Legalizing would destroy the entire Corporate Business model of "Selling the Sheep something they can get/grow for Free"

MJ is BAD, Evil, Unhealthy, Dangerous, Illegal.

Cialis, Prozac, HYDROXYCUT, Lipitor, Ritalin, Viagra, (either have led to DEATHS or Organ damage) = Legal/Approved, by Doctor/Feds.

AmericanTs

[highwaysong007]

not to mention that deforestation for toilet paper would no longer be neccesary.

[tenebroust]

Yep.

[highwaysong007]

loggers should love growing pot. instead... too bad its not that simple...and not the topic? or is it the corperate lobbists crushing us the point?

[tenebroust]

Correct in everything. I love that term "Americants" can I use it?

[NibiruMagick2012]

healtcare for profit is the problem.......

Its about the bottom line not the persons care that comes first.

[tenebroust]

Yes. This makes me very suspicious of any so-called reform too. I imagine that Obama will have all the heads of insurance companies and HMO CEO's for a health care summit that will only ensure higher profits and less care in any plan he has for reform.

[hellavadeal]

Has a pain sufferer I agree with you. But has a former addict , I do not get good pain meds. I have turned to alternitive treetment. It isn't has good and doesn't do the job that stronger meds do but I can function . Give um hell. Pease.

[Neurolanis]

This really hits home for me. I've been suffering from bursitis since January (it went away but came back.) I've had two shots to 'deaden the nerve', but as I've had it for so long now it is taking a long time to heal. Recently I missed several days of work (which I could not really afford) and hardly got any sleep for weeks on end (leaving me quite exhausted and feeling at the end of my rope.) It has occurred to me that there must be medication to levitate the pain, instead of just 'helping.

[tenebroust]

Of course. I don't know how it is in Canada but I would assume it is a similar thing as here in the US. Just try to mention pain medication to your doctor and see how fast he changes subjects to "alternative" treatments.

[Neurolanis]

Thanks, I'll do that.

[55ella2007k]

Nothing wrong with "Alternatives"  - as long as they actually work. But's that's the problem: most of them DO NOT WORK.

[lloydmer]

i had a family member with bursitis in the elbow region. he saw an orthopedist who gave a steroid injection to reduce the inflammation. that did the trick. but if it isn't true bursitis or the shot isn't given in the right area, then it probably won't work. wish you luck.

[Neurolanis]

Thanks, I may inquire about that as well (and it is true brusitis.)

[CelticReject]

A doctor here in UK was recently found to have given a patient 10x the dose of diamorphine. Obviously the person died. His defence was that he was very tired, and made a mistake.

[tenebroust]

Similar to a man who shoots someone. Instead of focusing on the man for his mistake usually the first thing they do is try to outlaw guns. I'm curious, did the news portray this as a need to have more control on this type of medication? Doctors, of course, make mistakes.

[CelticReject]

No I don't think there has ben any calls for greater regulation. The family is demanding justice, but as yet I have not heard them mentioning increased drug control. Hope that helped.

[tenebroust]

I hope they get their justice, doctors are just as responsible as any when they do harm.

[MikePresents]

If They figure out that people have a air dependency, they'd also outlaw that.

[tenebroust]

Or suggest alternatives...I'd laugh but it isn't even funny.

[highwaysong007]

ever hear of prolotherapy or hillco partners?

[tenebroust]

No. I'll check it out, thanks. Looks like prolotherapy would be excellent for MSD's.  Are you referring to the health care lobby group HillCo?

[highwaysong007]

yup they have clients like glaxo smith kline, orthopedics association of america...

AND senior partner Grant Bagley sits on the medicare reveiw board.... nice huh?

Prolotheapy is awesome! Too bad Mr. Bagley would rather suppress it in favor of big pharma and invasive surgeries.

[lloydmer]

doctors who specialize in pain medicine are much better than the average doctor about prescribing pain medication. people in chronic pain should seek out pain specialists.

although nociceptive pain can often be effectively addressed with medications, neuropathic pain can be very difficult to treat and is often resistant to drugs. plus some people, no matter the type of pain, are sensitive to narcotics - nausea, vomiting, etc. so other methods may have to be explored.

[tenebroust]

So called pain specialist may be much better than average doctors but in my experience they are no more likely to prescribe necessary pain medication. Opioids, the most effective pain medication seem to be anathema to them as well. I don't disparage exploring other avenues of pain management, but if a patient is in pain and opioids alleviate that pain they should be given the medication, secondary problems that may develop should be handled as they arise.

[lloydmer]

you're right, not even all pain MDs are aggressive enough at treating pain. if one feels they are getting some relief with opioids but the MD is hesitant to prescribe enough, or even worse, thinks the pain is in "your head", then by all means, find another pain MD.

but i just wanted to point out, that neuropathic pain can be a real bugger that is often unresponsive to narcotics. other classes of drugs might work, and of course there are non-drug options that pain MDs usually know about.

[tenebroust]

Agreed.

[JMJprotect]

Awesome carney! It's easy to get a medical marijuana card here in Calif. I know some people that are going to open a medical marijuana store here soon. They are a booming business here -- and rightly so.

[tenebroust]

Right, and the recent statement by the AG that they will only seek to prosecute people who violate both state and federal law which in effect, for now at least, means that if a state makes it legal then the Feds won't go after you (which they could do if they wanted to).

[JMJprotect]

Another thing along the lines of pain is suffering. You would be sickened by the amount of people that are getting chemo when the doctors know that it won't help the patient. They are already terminal and dying, but they give them more poison with the hopes of a cure. In most cases it just prolongs their suffering. It's beyond inhumane in my opinion. Add the pain factor on top of that. Nausea, vomitting and pain -- what a way to leave this world. Who needs a doctor?

[tenebroust]

Yes it is a damn shame. All of these things by themselves are terrible, added together they are atrocious.

[rockhardxrocker]

legalize everything, put the docs out of biz. Patients can diagnose themselves online and with confirmation of a pharmacist buy drugs from a pharmacy, no need for a fucking doc. Except for surgery and real treatment. But when you have to go to like 4 apts to see your doc, pay co payments, just to get their signature so you can get a refill for drugs, that is total bullshit.

[tenebroust]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[bgrim2008]

"legalize everything" -rockhardxrocker

You mean "YIELD Power to the meek ?"

Not gonna happen.

When you open up the market where People can make money of a product without paying taxes, you yield financial Power back to the MEEK (particularly the meek in the slums, "hoods", "ghettos", and trailer-ville, future Slave Plantation owners)...

Government won't be able to TRACK and TRACE the money...Corporations will be competing against the "little Man"...literally...And the lil' Man may WIN.

[55ella2007k]

rockhardxrocker: the real problem is health care for PROFIT. I agree with you whole-heartedly regarding the ridiculous charges for 'office' visits + so on. This is total BS. But I wouldn't go as far as to say, that you can diagnose yourself online. Sure, online research can be helpful, but I sure as heck wouldn't trust a pilot who got his knowledge via Microsoft Flight Sim, without ever have flown an actual plane. There is corruption in every profession, of course, no doubt about it.

[rockhardxrocker]

well doctors sacrifice a huge amount of their lives to become docs. They go through intense schooling, are the top of their class, pay huge amounts of money to go to med school, and usually come out at the end of the tunnel waist high in debt. Normal people wouldn't do their jobs for free, or just enough to buy food and a place to park their body for the night. Last time I checked, that was slavery. Most people, after going through that crap, want something for it. Spend long hours, no family...

[tenebroust]

Oh doctors should be paid for what they do. They should just be more free to do their jobs without interference.

[rockhardxrocker]

I just think the option should be there for people who know what they're doing, and know what they want. To be able to just look up their drug in a directory and buy it. There just need to be alternatives. There are too many regulations, too much paperwork. Insurance companies are a pain too. Doc's must hire someone to make sure the insurance pays them, instead of hiring someone to help them better serve patients. The thing with the pilot is, he puts you in danger; taking drugs puts only him....

[tenebroust]

A doctor's job ha become much more than patient care and that is a huge problem.

[bgrim2008]

My back/L5/L4 Herniation flared up after the first (Sunday) night of stay out in South, FL visiting my Pops...

It was Extreme Can't-stand-walk-sleep-shit-si­t-eat-fuck-Pain for the entire week. Finally decided to see a Doc (much to my reluctance) and ALL the Doc prescribes was Anti-Inflammatory ???

The Anti-Inflam worked but the PAIN took longer to go away, I was exhausted by that point...almost offended the Doc would not prescribe any pain killers.

Docs = "gatekeepers"

NO Self-Medicating.

[Swanny383]

A friend of mine, I will just call him Vic, had cancer in the Spine, his doctors would not give him any more pain meds, the doctors were "worried" he might be becoming addicted, Well another friend got wind of this and called the doctor, and said "Well then you better put a lot of it in his FUCKING COFFIN!!" are friend Vic passed away 6 months later. in great pain, I hope the next time that doctor has a terminal case like Vic's, he remembers those few words of compassion from a friend.

[tenebroust]

I'm sure that story could be told by many with different names attached. Thanks for sharing it here.

[JMJprotect]

That story is heartwrenching and I've seen others like it. If I ever get cancer I'm going to go down to Mexico and buy a big bottle of IV Morphine. I'll just keep myself medicated until I die.

[tenebroust]

A shame you have to think like that.

[mike29571]

Thank you for speaking on the topic. It is so very wrong that people with chronic, incurable conditions are left to suffer when drugs are available to manage pain. Which is worse, going through life with your teeth clenched unable to sleep or work, or running the risk of addiction?

[tenebroust]

Damn right, that is my entire point!

[happosai21]

hempoil with high thc is supposed to help or cure all kinds of stuff and helps with pain problems.

look up "running from the cure"

it looks interesting. but i guess its forbidden because its too cheap and they cant make money out of it

[tenebroust]

Of course and marijuana in general too.