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  • Wilders, ty farbowana szumowino, nie zadzieraj z Polakami, bo ci w końcu wp.dolą i wrócisz do Azji.

  • He shitting on him self Hahahahahahahah fuck that Matherfucker London is not Netherlands London is a musli land now Becouse. The England went Africa and kill million of people now they paying the price which I love to see

  • To the one idiot saying no one who understands Arabic...I do, and let me tell you your actions are proving your words wrong. I know arabic because my mother taught it as a tool for me, and for my siblings. The Quran is evil period. Most of my family from my mothers side died from Islam. Wake up!

  • go petition.com.

    Write your demands to your governments,the more sign´s in a petition the more likely is that they will hear us.

    5 mins of your time may make the difference,between a european Europe,and a Islamic Europe,its time to act!!!

    There is still hope.

  • Geert Wilders = Brains and Balls

    I see a healthy fury in his eyes even though he is cool and collected.

  • I wish this quality of straight-forwardness was a Must for every politician..all over the world.

    but, Now as it seems Britishers have lost their vigor with which they conquered almost the half of the World..It's a Shame.They have Lost my respect for sure..Deport Those filthy muslim-rats to where they came from...

  • I never thought native English MEN will be so effeminate..It's a shame!

    FOR THEM FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS TO TOLERATE WHEN MUSLIMS BURN THE NATIONAL FLAGS OR RIDICULE THE BIBLE JESUS..ANY OTHER RELIGION....

    AND RACISM IS WHEN WE RETALIATE BY DRAWINGS MUHAMMAD OR by BURNING QURAN..What Kind of Biased, prejudiced mentality is this?

    Disgusting Shame on UK and other European Countries who can not even Defend their Own IDENTITY..Shame on YOU PEOPLE..!!

    I laud Muslims for deceiving them so well..

  • @baristha You know what is really sickening about the English and I have been victim of this. If they see a member of the indigenous population being bullied by a Nigerian or a Muslim or whatever they will actually take the side of the foreigner against their own countrymen. The English make me utterly sick with this, I don't blame the Muslims or anyone else for we let them in. You know what many of them get given FREE fully furnished houses with TVs and TV Licences and large l

  • continued. allowances to live on. At the same time our own mentally ill people are living on the streets because they are homeless. Many asylum seekers are given 6 bedroom houses worth in the £millions whilst our people live in squalor. You could not make it up. I'm glad that my health is failing and that I won't be around for much longer because I dread to think what the future holds for me in this country.

  • @munchkin365 Dear, You could do at least one thing..CURSE THEM from the bottom of your heart TILL YOU'RE ALIVE.

    I curse those inbred Muslim bastards..every day ...I would like if our countries simply Nuked some of those countries (doesn't it seem juvenile?).

    Here is a practical plan we should (all of the developed countries) just boycott Islam, deport Muslim immigrants and cut off relations from all the Islamic countries they would be extinct within a decade..I guarantee..They NEED OUR Favor.

  • @baristha Hi. Unfortunately the government in the UK is conspiring against its own people we are unable to do anything about it - I know that sounds hard to believe but it is true.

  • @munchkin365 I'm shocked to hear that ..but why are they digging their own grave?

    why are they endorsing an alien ideology (Islamism) which will not only cause your Government's downfall but will also obliterate the idea of Secularism, Multiculturalism, Feminism, DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM from EUROPE..?

  • @munchkin365 It doesn't sound hard to believe,atleast for Indians!!!.The Indian government,from 1947 to this date,has been favouring Muslims to the extent that it won't take action even against the nearly 20 million illegal Bangladeshi Muslim immigrants living in India!!!!.One reason for this cowardly attitude is that Muslims are very organised and communal and hence,they act as powerful "vote-banks" for selfish politicians!!!.

  • GREECE FOR EVER. FUCK YOU BASTER. ΑΝΤΕ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΠΑΛΙΟ ΞΑΝΘΕ ΠΟΥΣΤΗ ΑΝΤΡΑ.

  • 3xtob: Well said.

  • This man's movie is going to be aired tonight in Israel :)

    But stpid Israeli reporters can't even spell his name right..."Hirt wilders"XD

    Anywat i REALLY REALLY want this guy to win!He is Europe's last hope for freedom!!!

  • I love this man:) 

  • and we are very happy to have Geert and he gets a lot of support in holland at the moment.

    No muslim will destroy our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So stand up voor england!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Well said Mr Wilders. This man is a great example of a person with the courage of his convictions. He does not incite violence or disorder - contrast with muslims who feel it is their right to kill people if they no longer wish to be a Muslim. They stone people, they call for jihad. And the British government stop Mr Wilders coming into the UK! We have seriously got things the wrong way round.

  • EVERY STATE NEEDS A GEERT WILDERS -RELIGIOUS TOLERENCE IS BULLSHIT  -- LONDON LIKES ISLAMIC SHIT -----BLOODY SPINELESS BITCH POLITICIANS

  • The charge is installed over many years.

    Now it will be fired, or taken of without explosion.

  • My respect to Geert Wilders. Thank you from all of real Europeans...

  • egt een zoon van hoer

  • @metehamdi1 Hoe noemen ze jou?????

  • Poetic justice that the fat pig former Home Secretary Jackie Smith who tried to stop Mr Wilders coming to the UK has since been shown up for the thieving, lieing, weazel slag she is. Thrown out of her job, then thrown out of office. Wonder what she does now. I bet the vile betrayer of her country is snuggling up, watching late-night porn with her hubby (but not at the taxpayer's expense, this time).

  • Geert! Make me a baby!

  • i dont even like him, hes a christian so basically a hypocrite, but why is he being banned!? i thought the whole point of the eu was that we could freely move between countries. oh no wait that only applies when it benefits the politcal ideology of the eu elite. hit and run killer=stay, democratically elected mp= fuck off.

  • @PHILIBOYLONDON78PH

    He's not a Christian but he's says he has the same goals as the Christians. Yea, I think he's a hypocrite too, just a racist actually, I have no doubt he would throw out a Moroccan atheist just as fast as any muslim.

  • Geert is satan

  • I am a UK citizen and I am ashamed of my country. I live in South Korea. Wild horses would not drag me back to the UK... I'm done with that spineless nation. Wilders put it well when he said that it is a nation of Chamberlains, referring to that spineless politician who sought to appease Hitler.

  • Geert Wilders, a knight in shiny armour!!!

    Europe WILL come to it's senses and KICK OUT all the evil called islam, islam is made out of satans breed!

  • we should support this man not bar him from speaking.HE is absolutely correct.

  • I'm biased agianst Geert Wilders because of his worldview religious/political because I think its hypocritical to insert religion into politics (christian democrat) then criticize another for being a religious political movement (Islam). However, he's in the right here, it's sad. I used to think well of the Netherlands, but what they're doing to Geert Wilders is just wrong. Freedom of speech is a human right, and they're depriving him of a human right.

  • @spartacandream You're the most reasonable person in this clusterfuck of a video. Congratulations.

  • @toransu Thanks!

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  • I corrected the wild geezer, Im an elected piece of shit!

  • boeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    where the hell is juba why he dont kill that nazi fag!

  • Dhimmitude . Londonistan.

  • @nickstevens:I have studied the religion and it is NOT a very peaceful religion.

    The Prophet Mohammed was a great despot and a charlatan.

    I never insult religions and holy figures without having any clue about who or what they preached or did. Islam however is not just a religion. It's a totalitarian ideology that implements every aspect of society. Respect and Peace.....

  • Who doesn't already know that the British are pussies? They stood by and did nothing to Hitler's reign until the last possible second when they couldn't ignore it anymore...I was in london as I watched their police officers run away from a muslim mob that was chasing them... & their media won't report on muslim violence. The British are a laughing stock.

  • @lauraleesmithagain Dont be silly about the war now, all of Europe appeased Hitler until we had no choice but to go to war.

    If the British police had gone anywhere near the muslims they would have been filmed , lost their jobs, accused of bing racist and sued etc.

    Thats how politcal correctness is played out. If these people continue in the manner that they are doing then the tide will turn.

  • @hablerz They did not appease Hitler.

    They prepared him in right position.

    So they do now, I guess.

  • More brave people like Geert Wilders are desperately needed throughout Europe, Americas and Oceania.

  • According to the Bible :

    "Don't think I have come to spread peace, I have not come to spread peace, but SWORD." (Bible : New Testament, Book of Mathew (10:34)

    Does Geert Wild know about this ideology?

  • According to the Bible :

    "Don't think I have come to spread peace, I have not come to spread peace, but SWORD." (Bible : New Testament, Book of Mathew (10:34)

    Does Geert Wild know about this ideology?

  • It would be good if moderate muslims emphasized they are not like muslims in the middle east and stood up for themself and aligned with the not-wilders voting dutch (the majority). But seriously, while many muslims are not evil people it would be nice if they showed soe more respect for our culture too, be nice to our women and homosexuals too. I do not like to walk the street and be sexually harrased anymore by "muslim" men. Peace can only grow from two sides. Lets kick Wilders ass.

  • haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa

    this guy is a white european racist nazi fuck yall whites

  • @afrikanbadboy Uhmm.. most whites are not like Wilders. I hate him and im white. Dont be racist thank you.

  • @DoomNoMore im white and you are a fanny, just keep burying your daft head in the sand, wake up and look around you, islam needs to be stopped or we are all in trouble, sharia law is going on just now and will be for ever unles we stop it so wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @comets00 You have been thoroughly brainwashed by the fear-making politicians. Fear is a powerfull emotion to manipulate people. (see my profile)

  • @DoomNoMore i can say the same for you, as i said before wake up!!!!!!!!

  • @comets00 My issues with Wilders-fear-speak are based on living and befriending muslims for years, not because of political speak. Sorry your fear message of waking up is not impressive. Take some valium.

  • @comets00 Wake up to what? Hmm. what shall I pick.. the bible god, allah, godzilla, thor or the toothfairy?

  • @DoomNoMore well if you believe in the tooth fairy then ok then

  • @DoomNoMore Combine godzilla and the toothfairy

  • @DoomNoMore Wrong categorie, dear toothfairy

  • @afrikanbadboy yeah and fuck you 2

  • @afrikanbadboy He is not racist fuckhead he has no problem with Hindus, Sikhs, Chinese and Japanese in Europe.

  • England even has towns that are totally inhabited by Bangladeshis people! And its incredible that England promotes free speech and freedom but bans Geert Wilders just because he has controversial, yet strong and intelligent ideas about the netherlands and the prevention of mass immigration which will essentially strip the netherlands of its people, heritage, religion and culture. The UK is a walking contradiction! They do not have freedom in the UK and this ban is a reflection

  • @JoanBeatrington You do realise that since this video Geert wilders has been to the UK and spoke in the house of lords.The labour government who banned him have been booted and the new coalition government have allowed him in.This is a step in the right direction for britain.Also the muslim mp who persuaded the old cowardly labour government to ban wilders has been sacked over the expenses scandal.Lets hope the new government listen to mr wilders.

  • BNP

  • Geerts : I LOVE YOU!!!!

    Good luck with the elections!

  • Well you used islam to get attention and if you are saying no you are one big LIAR. Mr Greet you rather have drugs and prostitution in holland. My advice to you is try and do something about the economy rather than putting fear in peoples mind and winning election.

  • I seriously couldnt believe this when I heard. You allow people into your country promising to destroy the United States but ban this from even entering the country!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!?

  • ONLY A CATHOLIC STATE WILL RESIST GOVERNMENT PLANS FOR YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC WIPEOUT AND ISLAMISATION!!

    Secular governments are deliberately Islamising the West - to offset ageing populations and strengthen themselves against China! Prepare for a Catholic State - or prepare for a burka

  • I wonder how many western hating people are given citizenship in Britain every year?

  • @mat4mckay millions

    same in all western countries....muslims claim that

    -people run around naked, and women have 'hundreds' of sex partners

    -people have sex in public

    -we're all so dirty/immoral

    YET they clambour over themselves to get here lol

    -

  • there are no more white people in london, it looks like Riyadh or Islamabad, one day the USA will have to LIBERATE britain like it liberated nazi germany after ww2. We should let britain suffer when it become totally over run by muslims!!!!

  • So what is actualy england is. Is it an Islamic country or multicultural or what? I think the bulldog is being castrated. What a shame , what a f...ing shame. Are there english left in UK or not. What would Churchil say if he could to see what have UK become to? I think he would radher leave england to the germans to invade. Pick up yourselfs you pricks or you will be erased.

    Greatings to all English-english people.

  • @poligon333 Churchill is part of this concept.

  • allah = terror

    muhammed = pedofil

    islam = terror organization

  • I wonder if this dumb guy knows the meaning of the word Fitna!! I wonder if those parrots stupidly repeating what he says know anything about Muslims and Islam. He is so dumb to come up and claim that he knows enough to teach the British politicians about Muslims, Islam, or the Middle East, part of which he has been only in Israel, where he received all this poison and the way to spread hatred! He is a loser, unable to solve the immigrants problems in his country, so he attacked their religion!

  • ok we have problems with them. heavy problems. what would you advice us to do against them? discussing? do you think these barbarian arrogant folks are at least partially willing to discuss about anything? this will only work with open-minded persons. religions or better ideological conceptions don't allow for rational fair discussions. means we have to stick together and defend our values or we will be defeated. or do you have a better idea? let me hear!

  • Well, first I suggest that civilized people should be civilized in their approach to all problems. Creticizing imigrant's faith and culture is not the solution to the immigration problems. All imigrants should abide by the local rules and regulations that do not interfere in their freedom of faith. If they don't like the local rules, they should leave and go back where they came from. Just like I don't like to be in Saudi Arabia, I just don't go there, without hating them.

  • Geert Wilders is right??!! What is his education level, other than the certificae he has from Israel to qualify him to help in corrupting the world?? What does he know about Quran or Islam other than reading some unauthentic translation of some verses and using some out of contest?? As a politician, what does he know about politics? What does he know about the interest of his country, let alone Europe? Did hie think of the harm he is going to cause to his own people by spreading lies and trash??

  • you are cowards lol

  • Geert wilders is very right ,That UK is a pussy coward nation...wake up BNP...

  • @slazzer145 Voting for the bnp does fuck all, all it does is encourage the government to go out of their way to show that we are nice and tolerant and that everybody is welcome in nice cosy tolerant Britain. Trust me, do not vote for the BNP, they are going about combating islam totally the wrong way, you can't do it through racism, you have to do it by showing that you're more intelligent than fucked up muslims. Trust, I'm not talking shit, you'll realise.

  • @slazzer145 My BNP buddy! I live in the uk and it's becoming extremely overwhelming! Pussy coward country your right! May Geert Wilders live on!

  • @slazzer145 am not white but on this issue i am willing to take a chance at voting BNP not because I hate different races, but because of a religion so dangerous as Islam. England is Catholic not muslim and should stay like that, any other fucking paki or even other religions should know that the UK will stay Catholic and should not try to put their backward dogmas first

  • @andresviveros well we r on the same side...all european countries must stay fully christians..not punjabi,hindu or Islam ....

  • @andresviveros ENGLAND IS ANGLICAN. Please check your facts before you decide to be a bigot next time.

  • @slazzer145 Yeah you are right there. England is a pussy shit nation and the people in this country make me sick. The treacherousness of the English is sickening.

  • Support Geert Wilders in London on 5th March 2010. Don't let Freedom be slaughtered by the fascists.

  • We also know that the book most similar to the quran - Hitlers "Mein Kampf," is a very popular book in the muzzie world. That Hamas and Hizbollah has adopted the nazi-salute. We know that lieing and twisting of facts is a muslim speciality. We know that muslims are systematically brainwashed before they open up their eyes. We know that muslims put blind faith before rational thinking and common sense. We also know that their prophet was a liar, a murderer, a thief, enslaver, a rapist & a pedo.

  • @3xtob dont say things you have no idea about!!! I have studied the religion and it is a very peaceful religion and the Prophet Mohammed was a great man...You shouldn't insult other religions and holy figures without having any clue about who or what they preached or did...Respect and Peace.....

  • @3xtob Yes you say the truth, I have an original historical version of my struggle in German from the 30s and it is an Eye-opener. If you read this Book it comes clear that this book is prohibit in Germany, it is the missing Link to understand history and future. In GB the book is available, you are free to buy and read it, and I recommend to do this.

  • @MegaMavric:

    We know that the quran is a fascistic hateful book of lies and superstition, we knew that a long time before Wilders produced the "Fitna" movie.

    We also know that the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" is a hoax, notably, a series of articles printed in The Times in 1921 revealed that much of the material was directly plagiarized from earlier works of political satire unrelated to Jews. We also know that dumb Jew-hating muslies like you continue to view it as factual.

  • He is a Zionist Dutch, raised in Israel, isn't he? What do you expect from a Zionist to say? Read the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" and you will understand why the Zionists are running after Islam like sick dogs. After controlling the Christian World, they realized that Islam is the only obstacle that stops them from controlling the world. They should know that Muslims don't just have Oil, but God is also with them.

  • @MegaMavric That could be not so wrong.

    They installed them quickly and now they yell attack

  • He will be remembered as a hero. Briton is in sad shape.They have let their politicians sell your future to the Muslims and the Koran for a vote. Briton will become a 3rd world country.

  • I'm sorry Geert, if I had my way you would be more than welcome here. Shame on our government, bunch of cowards that they are! I'll tell you this though, they have no chance of remaining in office come the next election. I know the damage is already done, but at least we'll be rid of them. And I suspect the British Nartional Party will be filling quite a bit of the void.

  • GLORY TO GEERT WILDERS !!!!!!!!!!

  • Is UK islamic country now? i was told they have more mosques than churches there. Is that true? can somebody from UK annswer.

  • im from east london and i swear on my mother that is 100% true its not britian any more, sum churches have been converted into mosques its sicking!!!

  • @EASTLDNBOYZ

    Well this is sad, really very very sad. UK landscape is going to change and so will your freedom thanks to your govt.

  • i cant agree more!! im considering going down south there seems to be less of the muslims down there!! the goverment is rubbish!! and they would have to take my life before they take my freedom!!

  • Its the same with all other European countries, all are going the same way. Its very bad in Sweden,italy, Netherlands,France,Germany and Belgia aswell.

    There are more muslims in Germany today then there is in Lebanon, and Lebanon is a muslim arabian country(tho was christian during last century, but muslim now due to muslim birthrate..)

  • @mrblurblur2003 more than 1500 mosques in the uk

  • @pestilentrabbit This is a potential time bomb ticking away, very real...

  • I will remind you muslims what the quran commands you to do:

    6:68 "And when thou seest those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil cause thee to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong-doers."

    See? So fuck off.

  • 3xtob, We know exactly what the Quraan says. We don't need a dumb like you to remind us. The Quraan says that a time will come when the Jews corrupt the world by lying and cheating. I think this is that time, when somebody like Geert is trained in Israel and coming out as if he is sincere European citizen to bullshit those ignorant in Europe and the world by lying and twisting facts about Islam, and supported by the Jewish controlled media.

  • i wipe my arse with quranpages

    i wipe my arse with mohammed-pedophiles

    face

  • What he is doing in not freedom of speach actualy is toking freedom of insutting.

  • I think that was fair enough, as somebody like Geert Wilders would harm the national security of England, or any other country he tries to enter.

  • Uk is gone forever! UK is now an Islamic governed and influenced country. Even the ministers would shake in fear in the house.

  • So by not being tough on Muslims, Britain is equal to Chamberlain for not going to war against Adolf Hitler?

    I can't believe he drew that parallel. Equating the Prophet Mohammed (who was a dumb asshole) to Adolf Hitler, and Muslims to Nazis, is very unpersuasive. These kind of antics would keep him out.

  • @MegaMavric First of all that Hitler should kill the fucking Muslims. I have gone to London it looks more like Pakistan with their backward culture.

  • UK is islamised

    Hidden grants are given for immigrating Pakistan and Afghanistan people by British politicians to get Votes

  • this lad is just angry ha ha ha

    u know what?? just go home and eet ur CHEESE u cheesyy head .. haha ha

    what a shame....journey...ha ha ha

  • you people are the real terrorists. i don't blame the american people because they don't know shit about what's going on. but how could you guys sell ur country to feds?? why the fuck u guys gave ur country to bunch of zionist jews who decide when to crash its market and when to bring it back up?? again I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT HE SAYS BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHATS COMING. i m from the country which is known as the great chess board of the world!! so Pe@ce!!

  • if he is talking about democracy and all and telling that he is right....Then why is he lying to everyone about his own identity?? why he is not telling people who he is? go check JEWISH blog spot all over google its filled with praising this guy. Why US is always going to be slave of Israel??

  • GEERT SPREADING THE TRUTH!! Say no to Islam, say yes to Peace!

  • I like the title. "Refused entry to Londonistan" LOL

  • Geert rules

  • Geert is a modern day hero!

  • Geert is not the modern day hero, he is the morern day zionist style liar!

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  • Death to Political Correctness. Boycott muslim owned businesses and expose muslim drug dealers who are waging a 'chemical Jihad' on Europe.

  • jihad is another word for defense...please use words properly or don't use them at all if you don't know the meaning of them. also since you guys get so excited talking about muslims this muslims that....ever try to investigate on this guy?? why not google him and see who he is?? type dr. M geert wilders zionist jewish.

  • I will, but was 911 or 7/7 a 'defence' attack, go for military/guerilla targets like the west does.

  • first of all its defense not 'defence'...secondly 911 and 7/7 both were inside jobs. you need to start doing ur own homework and stop watching propaganda media all over west.

  • It can be both actually, 's' is more the American way, Anyway how can 7/7 be an inside job when they made videos of their reasoning.?

  • instead of asking me why don't u do ur homework??

  • talking about videos they made fake bin ladin videos as well...what u have to say about that? please wake up cuz what's coming in future will be worst. I don't care whatever they have planed out for muslims but at least i want to let sheeple know that what's going on. we don't give a fuck about west they don't let us rest in peace. took palestine from muslims then wherever they smell oil they send their fighter jets in the name of ''war aganst terrorism''

  • Then why do you live in The States then.? Its planned btw, slight ironic slip there mate.

  • why US government have taken over oil fields in iraq and have bases in afghanistan? why states is in our country. leave our country alone and we'll leave your countries. simple as that. and stop the drama how US government do it with fake terrorism.

  • talking about why do i live in states? who are u to tell me that? are u native american? stop being an asshole and go take ur country back from the fed. idiots

  • Your ranting like a typically excited snad nigger, now get your composition sorted out you write like an imbecile. Dont reply.

  • go screw urself. God damn loser don't even know who is running your country.

  • Go Gert! You are a hero. People that just say: "Human rights say we have freedom of faith" are just ignorant.

  • we need more politicians like him. Geert Wilders is a practical and brave politician, the complete opposite of Gordon Brown.

  • A brilliant man!

  • sibawi, I dunno why you are laughing, you just proved 83% of amsterdam are NOT muslim, ya dumb twit. LMFAO!

    (muslims are unbelievably stupid)

  • sam

    islam is number 1 in amesterdam in less than 10 years

  • yo, LOCKMAN. your prophet IS a pedophile and criminal. Facts are facts, man.

  • WILDERS PRESIDENT!!!!WE LOVE YOU!!!

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  • geert wilders for president, inshallah mtf

  • aa

    islam will fall??lol hahahha how so??

  • why not

  • aa

    17% of amesterdam r muslims hhahahahah

  • That means 83% are not, you fucking dumbass.

  • Should get rid of you, Paki loser.

  • Wow!!

    Wilders didn't mince any words here!

    Usually supporters of him would be saying such things; to hear it from his own mouth is most heartening!

  • The point he made about chamberlin is so true.

  • Chamberlain tried to appease the Nazis and just look what happened!

  • Why Holland became so extreem?

    I used to like Dutch now they are only scumbags.

  • Geert Wilders is my personal hero

  • mine too

  • VOTE BNP FFS!

  • and your point is?

  • Hail Geert Wilders

  • Geert has successfuly managed to use a false controversy and pretend in front of the camera that people hate him. In reality

    people don't care about him. Right wing politicians in the west gain votes and some support by provoking muslim or other minorities as if they were not part of the poputation. This particular minority in Holand and in other part of europe have no one to defend it from European Nazi as Geert Wilders.

    Why beat smaler than you to show that you are stronger?