@RichtoffenRoach Atoms cannot be seen because they don't relect light (they are too small). They can be measured and detected in many ways, I.e through their radioactivity etc, you should read up on it.
@RichtoffenRoach I'm no physicist but atoms cannot be seen with visible radiation (light) because they don't reflect it. They can be seen via other wavelengths and frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum.
feynman would be turning in his grave if he heard these dodgy explanations. How is someone trying to learn this stuff supposed to understand something when one minute your talking about an atom as the whole, an electron as a part of the atom and then talking about firing alpha particles. What the hell is an alpha particle! is anyone capable these days of constructing a logical and reasonable progression of ideas.. gives me the shits.
@Marqan 'Let's be honest: Philipp Lenard figured the most if it out more than 10 years earlier.'
Let's be honest, you're talking shit son. If he had 'figured it out' then HE would be the Father of Nuclear Physics, not Rutherford. Lenard is completely unknown outside the world of physics, his main claim to fame is being a rabid anti-semite and Nazi supporter.
Just because you're Hungarian and he was (german) hungarian doesn't mean you have to promote him to make yourself feel proud. Grow up.
@jeudysd09r Dude so, my DAD is making me watch this, even though I am in front of the friken T.V. and my ps3 is right there. Even Worse, HE'S watching t.v!
an alpha particle is a combination of two protons and two neutrons that are ejected from the nucleus of a radioactive atom. alpha radiation is the most dangerous to your health if injested because its very ionising(i.e can make healthy cells become cancerous). the good thing is that it's not very penetrative. (can't get through skin and can only travel 5cm through air.)
im 12 and i get most of this but I don't know what positively charged protons and electricly nuetrel neutrons are and also what alpha particals actually are. Someone told be alpha particals were fem meted atoms?????? but that was a friend who is also 12 so I so I don't really think she is correct, would someone mind explaining. thanx
Thanks but what you're saying is akin to how I learned basic chemistry a decade or so ago at secondary schoo, before quarks, gluons, tauons, neutrinos, mauons came into the basic education picture. I think it's agreed what you say - there is significant distance between the nucleus and orbitting elctrons but what is that "distance" composed of and if the answer is "nothing" could that be the result of matter and antimatter combining?
I have thought of the same thing, is the space between the electron and the nucleus, the same kind of space that is outside of the electron. i get where you are going with this. It is very interesting. Of course, the know it alls, say it is the same, but they really dont know
So the atom which the presenter previously described as an amorphous blob (like a muffin) actually is mostly made up of "nothing" - is that possible? Or are we going to find particles or matter between the nucleus and the boundary of the atom? Is the "nothing" the result of matter and antimatter combining and the tiny (relative to the size of the atom) particles left over are matter?
Alpha particles? The same as the decay of radioactive elements? Or the nuclei of helium? If the atom was an amorphous blob (like a muffin) then I would expect 100% of the alpha particles to be blocked/deflected, not pass through. This video is better than nothing but certainly leaps explanations of phrases and processes.
The video never said that quantum mechanics didn't tell that electrons are in distinct shells, but that quantum mechanics does not give exact orbits of electrons.
Why did they discard the possibility of the atoms being indeed solid, hard balls, and that the empty space between them was the cause for the alpha particles go through the gold plate?
If the atoms more closely resembled the solid balls then all of the alpha particles would rebound. If the atoms were comprised mostly of empty space with a solid nucleus in the middle then most of the alpha particles would pass straight through and only a few would, by chance, hit the nucleus and rebound - which is what happened. Hence the nucleus model was accepted in favour of the solid amorphous blob model.
Good point, but I was thinking of solid balls with gaps between them. The alpha particles to pass through the gaps, not throught the atmos themselves...
Orenotter, thanks for you comment! It's absolutely amazing how these guys could have a such an insight about the consitution of atoms, without ever observing them directly... Fantastic...
I think that speaks a great deal to just how amazing our universe is. So much of it is counter-intuitive, yet if we do the math, it all makes sense. It's just fascinating and totally brilliant.
didnt read all these comments but my take is that the results wouldve been reversed if that were the case, all of them would rebound and 1/8000 would pass through (wow 9 months late oh well)
Even with the uncertainty principle, electrons are particle-like in nature and the shells are just very complex 3-dimentional orbits, meening they can't get much closer/further from the nucleus but they can go in any other direction. Also they go at roughly 90% the speed of light. Even though not nearly as much, their is also an amount of space between the protons/nuetrons.
when you touch the wall you can no longer speak about you or the wall, only the "you-wall" system. the electrons floating around in you and in the wall may freely exchange, this is how you gain/lose charge.
think of why you ground yourself by touching metal before you open up your computer.
Oh god its this guy. I'm gonna be up all night now..
meehalee21 2 days ago
Definitely using this video for my high school physical science course tomorrow. Thank you Brian Cox and your sexy sexy intelligence!
aussie56 3 weeks ago
we watched this is Physics class!
stupidityunitenstuff 1 month ago
Add EDUCATION to category so this can be used in schools with filters.
scbaker465me 1 month ago
Ernest Rutherford was a kiwi!
Sal3600 1 month ago
awesome
mbutlig1 1 month ago in playlist week 15
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This is a great video series. I like all the parts!
Thanks for sharing this!
sarmaroof 4 months ago in playlist Quantum Physics
Our teacher is indian, and i cant understand a word shes saying !!! ;$
Negatively charged particles, positively charged, we will learn all of that. her way "Negatwly chajd patklz, posetwly chajd, ve vill lean all o dat!"
dntforgthis 5 months ago
HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY SEE THE FUCKING ELECTRON? HOW DO THEY MEASURE IT? I MIGHT NEVER KNOW
RichtoffenRoach 5 months ago
@RichtoffenRoach Atoms cannot be seen because they don't relect light (they are too small). They can be measured and detected in many ways, I.e through their radioactivity etc, you should read up on it.
NANOFORGE 4 months ago
@NANOFORGE So those pictures about atoms that i've seen is a lie? How can they play with them? Nanotechnology! Ca you please enlighten me?
RichtoffenRoach 4 months ago
@RichtoffenRoach I'm no physicist but atoms cannot be seen with visible radiation (light) because they don't reflect it. They can be seen via other wavelengths and frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum.
NANOFORGE 4 months ago
British accent is more sophisticated than american, but american accent is cooler.
zamilabbas786 5 months ago
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feynman would be turning in his grave if he heard these dodgy explanations. How is someone trying to learn this stuff supposed to understand something when one minute your talking about an atom as the whole, an electron as a part of the atom and then talking about firing alpha particles. What the hell is an alpha particle! is anyone capable these days of constructing a logical and reasonable progression of ideas.. gives me the shits.
buzzle74 5 months ago
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buzzle74 5 months ago
Much better than reading my dirty handwritten notes. Learned more here than from my professor... god, that class was so boring...
trnstlntcsnnt301 7 months ago
@trnstlntcsnnt301 i feel for you dude
zamilabbas786 5 months ago
Awesome.
trnstlntcsnnt301 7 months ago
how many takes did they need before Brian caught the tennis ball!?!? :D
toniroxxxxx 9 months ago
THE ELECTRONS WOULD BE A KILOMETRE AWAY!!!! haaha
tenseman08 9 months ago
two week school lesson in a couple of minutes
mejico94 1 year ago
Let's be honest: Philipp Lenard figured the most if it out more than 10 years earlier.
Marqan 1 year ago
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@Marqan 'Let's be honest: Philipp Lenard figured the most if it out more than 10 years earlier.'
Let's be honest, you're talking shit son. If he had 'figured it out' then HE would be the Father of Nuclear Physics, not Rutherford. Lenard is completely unknown outside the world of physics, his main claim to fame is being a rabid anti-semite and Nazi supporter.
Just because you're Hungarian and he was (german) hungarian doesn't mean you have to promote him to make yourself feel proud. Grow up.
maureenOWW 9 months ago
omg wat if we are living on a giant electron!!!!!!!!!!
chaosarcee 1 year ago
WHITE FAGGG!!SSSS
Freshhamc 1 year ago
my teacher made me watch this and take note. really boring.
jeudysd09r 1 year ago
@jeudysd09r Dude so, my DAD is making me watch this, even though I am in front of the friken T.V. and my ps3 is right there. Even Worse, HE'S watching t.v!
Spartanboy3000 1 year ago
Your the best! thanks for the sweet video! :)
xpsniperguy123 1 year ago
He appears on the New Zealand $100 note. Rutherford is New Zealand's most famous Scientist!!!
blUdz18 1 year ago
I have to watch this for Chemistry at the moment...
claire0rockz 1 year ago
@claire0rockz me too. I have to write a paper on it. Not fun.....
dianaberry9393 1 year ago
an alpha particle is a combination of two protons and two neutrons that are ejected from the nucleus of a radioactive atom. alpha radiation is the most dangerous to your health if injested because its very ionising(i.e can make healthy cells become cancerous). the good thing is that it's not very penetrative. (can't get through skin and can only travel 5cm through air.)
physicsno1 1 year ago
im 12 and i get most of this but I don't know what positively charged protons and electricly nuetrel neutrons are and also what alpha particals actually are. Someone told be alpha particals were fem meted atoms?????? but that was a friend who is also 12 so I so I don't really think she is correct, would someone mind explaining. thanx
Rose4Demetri 1 year ago
This is so intresting to bad it´s not much more time explaining how thing work=( but they do what they wanna do =) gr8 vids=) ima watch em all
TheVladimirtk 1 year ago
1 in eight thousandth isnt that within reasonable error? and what about background radiation? this i think is the stupidest experiment in history
ollieoniel 1 year ago
Rutherford derided chemistry and yet was awarded the Nobel prize for chemistry!
see the great book,
Eric Scerri, The Periodic Table, Its Story and Its Significance, Oxford University Press, 2007
ericscerri 1 year ago
that bit with the geiger-counter is insane!!!!!!
Gman74 2 years ago
Such an amazing scientist Sir Ernest Rutherford was. This one person made so many discoveries!!!
DeViLiN888 2 years ago 14
my cat just ripped a wicked fart in my lap. she continues purring like it never happened.
Pirwzwhomper 2 years ago
Thanks but what you're saying is akin to how I learned basic chemistry a decade or so ago at secondary schoo, before quarks, gluons, tauons, neutrinos, mauons came into the basic education picture. I think it's agreed what you say - there is significant distance between the nucleus and orbitting elctrons but what is that "distance" composed of and if the answer is "nothing" could that be the result of matter and antimatter combining?
okeeft01 2 years ago
I have thought of the same thing, is the space between the electron and the nucleus, the same kind of space that is outside of the electron. i get where you are going with this. It is very interesting. Of course, the know it alls, say it is the same, but they really dont know
mikebe41 2 years ago
as above, it is nothing to do with antimatter. If antimatter and matter were annihilating (NOT COMBINING), a huge amount of energy would be released.
the distance between is comprised of empty space. That is, a vacuum. There are no detectable particles. It is as simple as that.
(of course, this is not the full picture due to electrons having wave-particle duality, but this is a detail best left to actual physicists)
psychodave0 2 years ago
So the atom which the presenter previously described as an amorphous blob (like a muffin) actually is mostly made up of "nothing" - is that possible? Or are we going to find particles or matter between the nucleus and the boundary of the atom? Is the "nothing" the result of matter and antimatter combining and the tiny (relative to the size of the atom) particles left over are matter?
okeeft01 2 years ago
Alpha particles? The same as the decay of radioactive elements? Or the nuclei of helium? If the atom was an amorphous blob (like a muffin) then I would expect 100% of the alpha particles to be blocked/deflected, not pass through. This video is better than nothing but certainly leaps explanations of phrases and processes.
okeeft01 2 years ago
I can't believe there are filmed records of Rutherford and Thompson ..That is fucking remarkable.
CamiloSanchez1979 2 years ago
the most remarkable fact here is that brian cox really was the keyboard player for D:ream
almann1979 2 years ago
yea and he is younger still than my pool boy...he must be a smartee wiz kid:)
mikebe41 2 years ago
I feel pretty much lucky to have acces to this information,thanks a lot
SoraTakenouchi16 2 years ago 2
Quantum mecanics does NOT tell that electrons are in destinct shells around the nucleus.
coldheartedsquirrel 2 years ago
The video never said that quantum mechanics didn't tell that electrons are in distinct shells, but that quantum mechanics does not give exact orbits of electrons.
TheAmericanPageant 2 years ago 2
lol this is actually all i ahevt o see for my physics and chemistry test
Achmed1787 3 years ago 2
Why did they discard the possibility of the atoms being indeed solid, hard balls, and that the empty space between them was the cause for the alpha particles go through the gold plate?
racastilho 3 years ago
hmmm take two years to brainstorm that question just like they did.
wcwashington 3 years ago
If the atoms more closely resembled the solid balls then all of the alpha particles would rebound. If the atoms were comprised mostly of empty space with a solid nucleus in the middle then most of the alpha particles would pass straight through and only a few would, by chance, hit the nucleus and rebound - which is what happened. Hence the nucleus model was accepted in favour of the solid amorphous blob model.
Gazzar 3 years ago
Good point, but I was thinking of solid balls with gaps between them. The alpha particles to pass through the gaps, not throught the atmos themselves...
Thanks for your reply!
racastilho 3 years ago
If that were the case, racastilho, there would have been a greater, predictable, amount of rebound. Not all, but significantly more than experienced.
Orenotter 3 years ago
Orenotter, thanks for you comment! It's absolutely amazing how these guys could have a such an insight about the consitution of atoms, without ever observing them directly... Fantastic...
racastilho 3 years ago
I think that speaks a great deal to just how amazing our universe is. So much of it is counter-intuitive, yet if we do the math, it all makes sense. It's just fascinating and totally brilliant.
Orenotter 3 years ago
didnt read all these comments but my take is that the results wouldve been reversed if that were the case, all of them would rebound and 1/8000 would pass through (wow 9 months late oh well)
billyx333 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment billyx333!
racastilho 2 years ago
Even with the uncertainty principle, electrons are particle-like in nature and the shells are just very complex 3-dimentional orbits, meening they can't get much closer/further from the nucleus but they can go in any other direction. Also they go at roughly 90% the speed of light. Even though not nearly as much, their is also an amount of space between the protons/nuetrons.
RJL738 3 years ago
Is that why we can not pass through walls?
jespriella 3 years ago 3
No, that's because the outter shell of every atom is comprised of electrons which all have a negative charge. Like charges repel.
pirskwayrd 3 years ago 9
i still dont get it, he says just a part of atoms get throught but th eother part ot, that means we left a part of us int the wall?
rusurazvan 3 years ago 2
when you touch the wall you can no longer speak about you or the wall, only the "you-wall" system. the electrons floating around in you and in the wall may freely exchange, this is how you gain/lose charge.
think of why you ground yourself by touching metal before you open up your computer.
pirskwayrd 3 years ago
@pirskwayrd Um...alpha particles have positive charges. Beta has negative charges. XD
VINHQLUONG 5 months ago
@pirskwayrd then y electrons in the same shell never repels?
hellobal100 2 weeks ago
Thank you for explaining this, makes alot more sence
rsworker 3 years ago 2