Phelps versus Spitz

[spactick]

I was in Munich in 72'. The whole Olympic Village was going nuts with what Spitz was doing. Until the tragedy with the Isreali athletes. And then the whole olympics became what it became.

[ubnum661]

spitz is a douchebag

[NightHawk8555]

@ubnum661 shut the hell up he's 20 times better than you will ever be

[kris533d]

i know its not only the gear but spitz didnt even had cap, suit, goggles and he had alot of hair on hes body

[ruvelazquez]

I agree with spitz: Is not the suit, is the guy which wear the suit

[TheMan0092]

True and alot of people believe that the suit makes you alot faster and that's not even true.

[furaskin]

I know people that competed with these new costumes and they assure that really work.If isn't the suit why at last world championship we had so many records?Maybe powerful roids..

[adamlewis934]

@ruvelazquez exactly. you can give one of those suits to a crap swimmer and they will still be crap. put a suit in the water and it wont move by itself

[Sm1le43]

@adamlewis934 Nice words

[kuya1960]

and also, I don't know why people are arguing about this because what Spitz did was a long time ago. Everything was different so i don't know what's to compare.

[kuya1960]

I really like Michael Phelps but, to me, what Spitz did is more incredible to me than what Phelps did because Spitz, in his day didn't have the high tech suits like they do today so, Phelps has an advantage. Since today they have better suits they can swim faster Spitz only wore a speedo, plus Phelps wears goggles and a cap. Spitz had long hair so it slowed him down. Like i said before Phelps has an advantage

[BYoung001]

So does everyone else he competes against... If you watch some of the race videos of mark spitz, one of the guys in his heat dove a complete bellyflop almost a second after the start. Modern competition is immensely improved as well as far more international in scope.

[stfuplzzzz]

Peppys a fatshit

[peppytwo]

Actually the best sport in the world is soccer. Not swimming. Sorry to say

[yootubematt]

Depends. How many other sports rely on soccer? Swimming is used in more areas (water polo, surfing, rafting, kayaking, and diving.)

So swimming is broader than soccer just like running is.

[peppytwo]

Phelps and Spitz are not that special. they only reason he got 8 medals is cause swimming is one of those Olympic sports where there is like 10000 events you can win. 50M, 100M, 200M, 400M, the relays, free, breaststroke, butterfly, backstroke, 1500M and so on.

[linz811]

ur foolish peppy

[juandi2570]

Do you think it is easy to win 8 gold medals in eight different races? Do you know how difficult it is to beat swimmers who specialize in or two races? There's been a few versatile swimmers in history including Spitz, Phelps and Ryan Lochte but diminishing what Phelps accomplished is Non Sense. You seem not to understand the Magnitude of winning 8 gold medals in eight different races breaking the WR in 7 out of 8 and setting an Olympic record in the remaining 8th.

[juandi2570]

Listen man, go die with your bullshit. Phelps has never taken performace enhacing drugs. You are such an idiot. Doing pot in a fucking party doesn't make you a drug addict. Everybody has taken a marijuana hit in a party. You must serbian or something. Muchael phelps is clearly the best swimmier who's ever lived. He's been breaking records since age 15. You have no proof.

[juandi2570]

Don't pass judgment on Phelps for taking a pot hit on a college party. Marijuana is not a big deal. Michael has never done any performance enhacing drugs so he's clean. Michael is having fun in Sweden. Who cares about the swedish meet? Michael and the best word's swimmers train and prepare themselves to compete in long course pools. You will see Michael win many gold medals in London 2012. I apologize for using those words............

[Cordeiro757]

Okay Juandi, alcohol, cronic cigarret smokers are worst then Marijuana. I deal with people destroied by drugs and alcohol, I know what tragic it is. During the Comunism in the old Germany, they use to won lots of Gold Medals! The big true, came later on, when the Word found out, that most of them where involved in drugs. I did not mean to hurt you, with my words about Phelps... So long Juandi .

[juandi2570]

You guys are envious of phelps. He's the best swimmer ever and 99% of swim experts agree with me so you go save your country's alcoholics and drug addicts..............

[Cordeiro757]

There is no save for them, as long as the Countries conected with drugs mafia, still keeping the consumers satisfied, and blind. Sorry, but my admiration goes to the Great Mark Spitz...

[adamlewis934]

@peppytwo There are 2 events on each of back, breast and fly, 5 on free, 2 IMs and 3 relays. Thats 16 events in total covering 4 different strokes and an incredible scope of distances. Phelps won 8 of the 16 is incredible because it shows he is the most diverse sportsman in the world, most swimmers only do 1 or 2 events. It's like someone in athletics winning the 100m, 200m, 400m, both relays, javelin, long jump, and hammer throw. It's just incredible.

[ch1do121]

spitz is being an asshole. seriously. i mean its true if he had a bttr suit and a cap and goggles that he woulda been faster. he's all sayin that it takes skills to swim bttr not the suit. the suit does help and he just doesnt get that.

[swimguy3]

since when are LZR racers $800-100 last time i checked a full body one was like $550. just throwin it out there

[swimming4life12]

god spitz just face it michael phelps is better

[PurpleWallflower36]

my team has full body suits for the more competitive meets... we practice in the college pool, so we have a lot of little meets...

i could afford a suit but i think it's stupid to buy an expensive thing that tears

i think those suits are just like legal stereoids...but if i odnt get one, i'll be left behind

[PurpleWallflower36]

I say that all swimmers go back to shitty little suits... (most Lzrs are $1,000)

Spitz and Phelps need to chill

the equipment is destroying the best sport in the world...

[TheAwesomeJayandGray]

What are you talking about? These new suits are created to fit around the body to move more smoothly through the water- they allow you to swim at your best. I hardly think they're destroying the sport, only make it easier for swimmers to reach their full potential.

[PurpleWallflower36]

Spitz is being a fag

he is one of the greatest swimmers ever, but he should be proud of Phelps, he is amazing too. First Spitz complained about not having the new equipment, then he said that the equipment doesn't matter. Hypocrite.

I've been swimming since I was five and I've always looked up to both of these men. But i can't stand Spitz after EVERY interview he had was like this.

[Pubguy]

spits swam when swimming was not mordernized, he was good at his time, but if he were side by side with michael, he's nothing

[OSCAR588888]

i dislike spitz, i think he is a fag

[mustardjunkie]

Spitz= listen to what he has to say. He is the Greg LeMond of swimming. Do not be scammed by this corrupt system put in place to make billions of dollars in ad spend.

Breaking these already doped world records requires more drugs and heavier doping. Power chemo boosters, autologous blood transfusions and HGH, Insulin abuse is supported by freaky doctors, this is what is motoring Phelps; not purely hard work of the past.

[lawlkatz7]

You obviously don't swim.

[guardian663]

get in a fucking pool and do what we do everyday

then you can talk.. but until then keep your mouth shut because you dont know what real pain is

you just think we do this with drugs

[SeanCheng14]

dude wat the fuck are you talking about. ur prolly retarded as fuck buddy

[hermione12]

mmmh? seriously you must have never swam competitvely have you? you obviously have no idea what its like to be hours and hours in the pool just training and training. but i dont complain cause i like it, it pays off but dont say shit like that because you dont know what youre talking about

[notskool]

dude what the hell are you talkin about with all these Power chemo boosters, autologous blood transfusions and HGH and shit. im with the rest of the actual swimmers on here where getting somewhere takes hours in a pool every day, every week. so by all means keep believing that he didnt do these things by hard work. just keep it the fuck to yourself

[dumbgook]

Franekstein

[stephenouma]

Pot Head Phelphs

[DChillaxnig321]

hell yeah he smokes bud. And hes more successful than billions of "goodie goodies" that would never touch such a harmful and career killing substance.

[AdvancedGentleman]

I like what Spitz said, "It's not the swimsuit that's taking the swimmer across the pool fast, it's the guy in the swimsuit stroking the swimsuit fast." Exactly!!!! Same thing with Bball players having to go out and buy $300 dollar shoes when the $40 work fine. Hard work and dedication makes the athlete, the accessories just kind of help. It would have been interesting to see how Spitz would have done with that equipment now back in "72. But, we will never know. Phelps is the best for now.

[robocop423]

spitz is so uptight bout the record saying u cant make a comparison coz it isnt the same combination of races. dude mark get over it records are made to be broken

[flamerider11]

phelps is my hero too. i started swimming this year and he's really inspired me. i mean ive always thought of spitz as a little bit overconfident. but i guess if it was my record i was defending i wouldn't be too happy either.

[Alexdesanjuan]

i like both .... michael is my kids hero.. my son wants to be a swimmer now...spitz is just a little jealous!!

[jethrodassam]

Where's JLo in all of this?

[MaPhelpsjr]

im 15,im really young but i keep on training and hope some day i can break some records, hoping i can go to Londres 2012, i will put the most high i can my countrys name. :)

[secretwmp]

you have no chance, maybe if you're American you might

[MAlbines1]

HOpe to see you there.

[lawlkatz7]

good luck getting top two in any event at olympic trials

[melina95]

if they both die i want to break their records!!

[djbiggmike]

I'd like to see phelps time with no goggles, no swim cap and no NASA suit Spitz is the BEST!!

[djbiggmike]

It took 30 years to break spitz record I'm sure it will take less than that to break phelps records.

Sptiz all the way!!!!

[Mambodiak]

also a mustache and long hair...

[elocineuqinom]

mark spitz was great , michael phelps is the greatest

[ATRUEAMERICAN10000]

Spitz and former Fed Chairman Greenspan never know when it's time to SHUP UP and fade away. Oh yeah, that's right, they're both obnoxious Jews with HUGE egos. Keep waving your arms...no one cares anymore.

[KHallesy]

Mark Spitz and Phelps are both American hero's. They are both hero's of mine. I was 10 when Spitz swam and for the time it was equal to what Phelps has now done. Of course Phelps times are faster but if Spitz lived in todays world he would tie Phelps because they are both winners and they both have the same competitive spirit. Times are different but they are both hereos of mine and my sons. Thank You to both of you no amount of money could give me the pleasure you both have. Stay role mod

[davlor86]

TEAM SPITZ

[Matrix5060]

Spitz is being ignorant. Of course technology improves performance a little bit. You can compare the two...Phelps has beaten Spitz in every category...his times are simply FASTER

Atheletes get better each decade

[ANewDay2007]

Only you Spitz haters are sour. And overly sensitive.

Spitz and Phelps have NO beef nor envy with each other. Only the losers are imagining animosity between these two.

I'm secure enough to praise Michael Phelps without tearing Mark Spitz down. Both Spitz and Phelps are Olympic legends now. And I am damn proud of BOTH of them!

[Swissv2]

Spoken with TRUTH!

[bxiao]

dont forget that spitz killed his competition with no cap, a mustache, and a crap suit

[jazzyjeff1282]

yea an all the other guys had the same things so even playing field

[bxiao]

phelps almost got his ass whooped in the 100 fly and the 4x100 free. he was really lucky

[wierdfreek]

watch?v=1UEOZGFzPas

[paintball164]

HE DID IT!

[Zordie]

MAN... It sounds like Mark is a little pissed at loosing his record. STOP IT MARK! Remember the record that you broke? I'm sure you were wearing, swimming, or what ever better or more than the record you broke.

STOP the HATE! You can not compare the two of you. Different times... No one thought Jesse Owens records in running would be beat either. Technology... it does wonders.

This is 2008 NOT 1972!!

[mindandmuscle]

just watched michael phelps win his 8th gold medal!! so mr. spitz, kindly take your 7 gold medals and shove them up your pompous, arrogant ass.

[GothikaGwen98]

I believe Michael Phelps is sorta the greatest swimmer of this era.

I mean if it wasn't fer all the science in like the suits nd goggles nd even in the water I guess he could be the greatest but Mark Spitz won his medals without all the tech.

[violaswamp123]

Michael Phelps is the greatest swimmer of this era. Remember, all his opponents (which he has defeated) have the same technology.

[xmagic9x]

Like sum1 who mentioned it earlier, Phelps competitors are wearing the same thing. Your argument is asinine.

[goneaerial41]

I just met Mark a couple of days ago, he's actually kind of rude. I also believe his last name is Spitz because he spits all over you when he talks... and he doesn't ever shut up.

[nuness20]

Why tear down Spitz? He is actually being complimentary to Phelps.

[hitorimika]

cmon guys.. mark gave u americans 36 years of fame as the only one who won 7 gold medals in a summer game. Be proud of him.. I guess it doesnt hurt anybody for him to praise himself. Oh yah, if the comments are made by non-americans.. u guys can continue to bitch abt him.. cos he is nobody to non-americans. By the way, I am not mark fan. And, I do think Phelps is the best swimmer till someone else break his records years down the road.

[BobbyN23]

phelps>spitz

[icecue7]

Who cares about you Spitz?

[wju365]

Spits is sterotypical selve serving, selfish and whiny. Pathetic-he doesnt even try to hide his intentions. He has just become a footnote in olympic history and not soon enough. Why does Spitz deserve ANY of Phelps spotlight?

[jazzyjeff1282]

spitz is a motha fucker. get a life bitch

[jojothewolf99]

why don't u try for a gold medal whatever u think of mark spitz whatever he did he went for it and succeeded.

[jazzyjeff1282]

Spitz= sour grapes

[AmazingG07]

Mark Spitz is more good-looking, swam without goggles and swim cap, now he's a real man!

[jojothewolf99]

i agree mark spitz had and does have alot going for him, looks, talent and he does not sound like he is a proudful person. He has been praising michael phelps all the way. It appears he also has class. This is all without suits, goggles,and the like. w

[maxdaddy103]

spitz is a douchebag

[Liisatra]

They are both the best in their day and age. You really can't compare and they respect each other.

[myplace9]

Is it really the swimsuit that's making the difference? Has state-of-the-art technology given our present-day athletes an unfair advantage? What they oughtta do is let them all splash around totally in the nude, like the Greek Olympiads of old. But .... that wouldn't make things totally fair either ... inasmuch as some of the guys would have "greater drag" in the water, depending on their endowment.

... just a thought.

[springerspaniel1133]

The training is the difference. With technology, swimmers know how to train to peak at the right time. No swimmer can compete at this level week in and week out. They build up to peak performance and then HAVE to rest.

[littlemisspissy]

Spitz is a legend and Phelps is already the most decorated Olympian in history... both great athletes in their times.

When Mike Phelps takes his 7th Gold Medal, fly Mark Spitz to Beijing and have him standing by for Phelps and Team's 8th attempt at the Gold. When USA wins the race and Phelps wins his unprecedented 8th Gold Medal, bring out Mark Spitz as the special presenter of Gold Medals to the USA Team (not Silver or Bronze).

THAT is how NBC will create an unforgettable Olympic moment.

[paraskevaidis7]

fuck you spitz!!!

[dvoraswickle]

soooo proud, think fish.

[NoeyTh13teen]

Spitz seems to have known that Phelps was gonna break that record.

"Different events... he's swimming in more events... i was swimming in a different suit... not taht it makes a difference"

[HappyHumanTorch]

That's not palo alto, that's stanford.

[oduvanchikk]

it doesnt matter who's better. It's all about personal accomplishment.

[mda40000]

ur an effin fish phelps!

[elementalpuck]

Why do you think Spitz is mad? He just said he is honored to be compared to Michael Phelps and he said it is the swimmer not the suit...i.e. Michael could win no matter what. That sounds like a HUGE compliment to me.

[visor109]

Spitz seems to be full of himself.

[robpaints]

in a way he is right, now a days with technology you get a bit of help.

but the fact of the matter is that if you throw the suit in the water, it will do nothing.

and if the French think they are better than America. it only shows how dumb they still are.

[gmorton123]

i agree... hes kinda annoying idk y lol

[NoeyTh13teen]

i kno

[xsultrysongstress79x]

ahhhhhhhhhhh! michael is SEXY! and the kid is fuking unstoppable.

[KangaKucha]

Did Spitz hav any rivals that could hav beat him? cuz Philps has no rival in Beijing that can beat him, so if Spitz had a rival that could beat him in 72, then his accupisment is still better than Philps.

Too bad Ian Thope isnt swiming anymore, but even he would have a hard time beating Philps now.

[cartelcRaZy]

phelps rocks and is gona be #1

go phelps<33

[SilverLiteProduction]

spitz seems kind of mad..

SPITZ WE KNOW U ARE!!

JUST FACE IT!!

HE BEAT U!!!

JA JA JA!!

[SilverLiteProduction]

hhaahha

phelps has 10 gold medals!!! haah!!

and he is gonna get 11 haahha!!!

muhaah!

[swimbikeboy]

i am not ten im 12 (page)2 my brother commented

[XdramaXmamaX]

You can't shatter worlds records the way he (and other swimmers from other countries) have this year thanks to a suit. That's pure talent and hard work. I agree with the post below, if the suit 'helps' anything, it is so minor it's inconsequential.

[Kazu1193]

wearing fast skins won't make a dramatic difference in your times you guys. i competitively swim i should know :)

[zetasan]

Phelps is a jerk

[dukeblue1015]

k to the guy who said phelps is on steroids, u have no idea how many tests they run on every single steriod there is, and hes passed all of them. And lets face it ppl, phelps is greatest swimmer of all time, with or without the suit he could beat spitz in his prime

[sasacha5]

yea but if you havent noticed, phelps, using the same suit, beat his times over and over again, i dont know about you, but i think thats incredibly impressive

[fgrod]

Phelps is hard to watch with his steroidal ugly faces he makes and pulling his suit down so far down the cameras won't go there.

[jdtylers]

Oh please, sounds like you want to go there.

[nightfalcon1993]

SWIMMING IS FOR FAGS

[deankeen]

what a jerk!

[jeffmagic32]

its all good - Spitz, Lewis, Phelps - all the greatest of all time, and all from the USA.

[stevecitano]

Really now Mark, let's not downplay the young man that's going to crush your record, you old fart! Your day is over, it's his time now, let's give em some recognition!

[cicirunner]

If I were Spitz, i would support Phelps in representing America and keeping up their greatness in swimming. Plus, supporting the comparison would give me additional recognition and educate younger generations about me that did not grow up watching the Olympics in 1972 lol. If you want your name to live on, you can't be an ass hole.

[soccer2hot4you]

spitz is bitching lolz

[swimbikeboy]

shutup skaterade drowning does not count as swimming

[mandypandy1234]

spitz is jealousssssss

[bten143]

spitz is an asshole

[swimbikeboy]

screw you mark spits i cav almost beat your times and i am 10

[sk8terAde]

bullshit. Where are your videos. I would kill you in swimming. i have videos to prove

[AlexFictionFriction]

Spitz is so up his own ass, the suit does make a difference

[didadi27]

facts speak louder than words,let's wait to see,no matter what the result is,i think michael has been a hero now.and arguements on such a thing is boring.

[SPUNKGIVER]

at least spitz was drug free and still alive unlike any steroider gold medalist who will not live to spitzes age.

[XoxoPhelps]

Whoa . Michael had a history of steroiding. He overcame it. Leave him alone,

[cicirunner]

phelps is not that kind of person

[soldierboy81]

I think Spitz has a valid point. Back in the day they didnt have all these nice suits and such. Hes a classic swimming legend and will always be one regardless if Phelps gets 8 medals

[mindandmuscle]

could mark spitz possibly be a bigger horse's ass?

[DocumentaryDude]

spitz is a dirty cheating jew

[Dashingdavaroo]

moron...

[ddysgrl09]

wow could u be any more of an ignorant douchebag???

[chuckshissle]

Mark Spitz will always be the best in swimming. Back in his day, he does not swim with all the high tech gear to boost performance. No googles and regular swim suit, this test mostly the skills of a man. Now science is applied like the google, head gear and swimsuit, engineered with space technology to improve results. I think that's destroying the very purpose of an athlete. Olympics should be able human performance and not equipment. At least all should wear the same equipment to be fair.

[krismacd]

Goggle, not google.

[chuckshissle]

lol, sorry. :)

[krismacd]

:0)

[YOkidddd]

duhhhh phels kicks peoples ass by like a mile. he can fucking beat spitz without the gear. it doesnt make a huge ass differnce like spitz is trying to make it sound. that old piece of poop is just jealous

[chuckshissle]

If he can beat him then I will be prouder of Phelps if he does.

[YOkidddd]

which phelps can do. and phelps will prolly kick his ass by 50 meters.

[Vlaudeimirz]

I see you are an 8 year old boy with infantile comments. Be realistic okay.

[YOkidddd]

hahah actually im not. i can see your a dumb ass, phelps is amazing. Spitz is old. he would be done for.

[Rdp2440]

oh man.. one day phelps will get old too and sum1 will evenually win 9 god medals.... so cool it down with the age stuff

[SuperNerd64x4]

how? there's only 8 swimming categories...

[Rdp2440]

u can get gold medals in alot of olympic sports not jsut in swimming....

[YOkidddd]

thats a bull shit ass excuse. Spitz is just jealous and angry that phelps broke his record so he is trying to make all these excuses like the equiptment is better. "i didnt wear goggles or a special suite" blah blah PHELPS BROKE HIS RECORD BECAUSE HE IS A BETTER SWIMMER. get the hell oveer it.

[chuckshissle]

Yes he did with the help of some high tech swim suit. I will give Phelps more credit if he breaks the record with nothing but a basic swim thong. It's called technological doping.

[chuckshissle]

Okay do think about this one, Phelps can broke his own record with the help of the high tech swim suit. Now where did that extra speed came from? You know he can go fast with the help of the swim suit, of course you can see many swimmers in Beijing are using it for themselves. You're telling me they become stronger with the suit? No, they swim with less resistance, and therefore achieve faster time. Olympic should be about body and mind, not technology.

[chuckshissle]

It's Phelps that has been hurt about it, as he lives under the shadow of Mark Spitz. He hated how everyone called him, "the second Mark Spitz" and now with the help of his hi tech swim suit, finally he can beat the man who swim with nothing but pure power. Now that's olympic.

[chuckshissle]

I don't hate Pheps, I just don't like the fact that he claims he is the fastest and then use the high tech swimsuit. They should give the suit a gold medal as well.

[conversal4]

sorry bro, I'm a swimmer, and the suit doesn't make much of a difference...

The variables in friction are inconsequential if you think about the mass and the speed at which the body is traveling through the water in.

Think about it this way, Shaving the boltheads off the surface of an aircraft to make it more aerodynamic won't make it much faster. There is just too much mass in motion.

[DukeBasil]

When I was in high school, we swimmers shaved our legs, our heads and drank honey before a race....I was a freestyler...50, 100, and 200...tried 400 but it killed me....We didnt have the dophin kick coming of the wall either....wow what we could have done using that...I lost some races by one hand (boom...boom.....that fast)...Phelps is winning by a full length from the 2nd place guy....PHELPS IS THE BEST...bar none.

[nuness20]

I would say Johnny Weissmuller was perhaps the greatest swimmer of all time.

[chriteo]

phelps the fenomeno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[48acar19]

I thought it is about Fred Phelps...LOL :D

[capnmatches35]

why does spitz seem so stingy?

[daluter]

supposedly, I've heard/read this is how Spitz always is.

[Yvesfrancoisdeux]

Wasn't Phelps arrested for DUI after his last Olympics?