Nancy Pelosi apparently bought $1 million to $5 million of Visa stock in one of the most sought-after and profitable initial public offerings (IPO) in American history, thwarted serious credit card reform for two years, and then watched her investment skyrocket 203%. This woman belongs in jail.
Pelosi said, Americans Approved of Congress When I Was Speaker. An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly would make more sense than Pelosi. Pelosi talks so much she can't tell the difference between herself and other voices. As long as the nation is obsessed with different kind of politics, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become the speaker? Stupidity has a new face.
@alwayssmile4u66 She IS a 'dark hairy hole,' and full of shit to boot! She's a human flatus! Her voice may have changed but I bet her breath smells the same...
OMG! I didn't know pregnancy was a fatal disease! What a friggin' idiot. Obama promised us Obamacare did not provide for federally funded abortions. OMG! You don't think the Wicked Witch of the West is calling the boy king a liar!?!?!
@the1calledv - Don't you get it? It's not the life of the baby they care about! In fact, they want it dead. If it was a Fairy Shrimp in a pisshole or a bacteria in a cave, then they'd be all, "Save The Bacteria Man" but since it's a baby and they despise western humanity, they want that baby dead and chopped up into pieces. After all, it a woman's choice, right? But only if they can also make millions of dollars in campain contributions doing it. Just like they always say, "follow the money"
@tracymccourt - OOPS! Sorry about the mix up. I guess your girly name gave it away. But if you truly support this hag (Pelosky) then your penis must have turned into a vagina along time ago. Good luck with that... Stacy.
YOU REALLY ARENT THIS STUPID ARE YOU/?????????? they dont have to ABORT a baby to save the woman's life- they can DELIVER the baby! If the intention is truly to save the womans life- why then is it necesary to kill the baby Deliver the baby(btw-less trauma to mother) and if its viable it will live- take a look at exactly what is involved in a late term abortion- you will think again! They dont care about saving lives- quite opposite.AND YOU ALL BELIEVE OBVIOUS PROPAGANDA-THINK FOR YOURSELF!
If pointing out Pelosi and her unequaled level of corruption and dishonesty makes me a sociopath then you got it! Small price to pay baby... BTW, you sure are sexy when you're angry... =)
There NEEDS to be more women like her in politics. More women making pro-women decisions. This has nothing to do with abortion now. This is about shamelessly allowing doctors to let women die instead of saving their lives. I have said it before and will repeat myself here: some of so-called "pro-lifers" are some of the most pro-death people I know. Vile and disgusting. They are occupying our womb. Time to kick them out of there!
Its funny how for many of these politicians it is a medical procedue, but when it is their own children then it is a life. There are more women that die because of abortion - I have seen the medical examiners wheeling out dead bodies of mothers- out of abortion clinics. But for these politicians they are collateral damage.
@EyeoftheU You can thank the mix of extreme conservatism and the bronze age religion it endorses for the barbarism in the U.S. I want to leave, but I also want to stay and fight for a more civilized America.
If they had not changed the long-standing rule about federal funds being used for abortion (even Obama issued an executive order against it) then new law wouldn't be necessary to undo the mess that Nancy's HCR legislation created. Repeal it and replace it with personal responsibility.
@MarillenknoedeI lol what part of the EU are you from ..cuz you guys are fucked ... Islam is killing you guys right now .. start ya boat and start ya paddles
Given the fact that this thing on the screen must be at least 190 years old, there is no way it can live much longer. Soon, old age and gravity will catch up with it and the sun's glorious radiation will do it's thing. When this beast finally passes from extremely old age, there will be a rumbling of cheers and overwhelming celebration as if the most evil of dictators had died. On that day, I will invite all of my friends to a party and we will throw down like there's no tomorrow!
@frankdrebiin You know, if it wasn't so fucking expensive to go to uni in the U.S., more people would BUT the elite want to keep the working class people ignorant of course. Thank God I am an atheist with a college education!
@FrankCastlez - How heartless is is to really - really - think that what Nancy Pelosi says is true? Women will ONLY - NOT - get an abortion because the Clinics ALWAYS require MONEY FIRST. EVERY ONE. NO EXCEPTIONS. If the DMV wasn't in charge of healthcare you would not have these issues. These people just want it all for FREE! There is NO EVIDENCE to support her DEPRAVED CLAIM. NONE.
You want a Postal or DMV type of facility doing your healthcare?
This bill is appalling! This bill is similar to the bills that Barack Obama fought for to get passed as a Senator of the State of Illinois that said that a baby surviving a late term abortion shall be allowed to die on the table, and medical treatment may be completely withheld from the surviving baby. Well, who wants a dem baby with a hole in the back of the head anyway? Never mind.
The Hyde amendment is a rider, not a permanent law. It usually applies only to things like Medicaid. Get YOUR facts straight before you go spouting off insulting people with sensibilities different from yours. And as for the "fetus" comment - if you have any knowledge of embryology - the term fetus refers to a developing mammal. Using etymology to de-humanize a victim is an old trick. Just look back to the way African-American slaves and Jews were described by their predators.
@bluemahajer Actually I TEACH A & P - I have my doctorate in Anatomy and Cell Biology and a concentration in developmental biology. Smarminess suits your lack of information.
@sherrieh100 It IS just a goddamn fetus in the womb! Why shouldn't it be called that? Should it be called a precious, wittle blessing? Everyone loves to fuck but not everyone loves babies, me included, and it makes me happy when I hear about new life being prevented. Too many people already.
The Hyde amendment is a rider, not a permanent law. It usually applies only to things like Medicaid. Get YOUR facts straight before you go spouting off insulting people with sensibilities different from yours. And as for the "fetus" comment - if you have any knowledge of embryology - the term fetus refers to a developing mammal. Using etymology to fe-humanize a victim is an old trick. Just look back to the way slaves and jews were described by their predators.
I see a a lot of anti-abortion advocates on here seem to be brain washed and misinformed. Ever heard of the Hyde amendment? Well its been around for 30 years. This legislation is about controlling private insurers not tax payer funded ones.
retarded logic, pro-life only in terms of foetus- but they don't care if a woman dies because her life is secondary to that of the dependant group of cells growing inside her? wow America ever heard of the separation of Church and State? stop trying to enforce your religious ideology onto female uteruses
Women's reproductive health is very important to the GOP, as well as the health of the unborn child. How can you not connect the two? Abortion is murder, plain and simple, and should not be funded by the government.
@LaurenisinWonderland Women at risk and feel in "need" of an abortion is only a small percentage; 6% are due to medical reasons and 1% for abuse and rape. Very sad statistics.
Any woman who actually votes for one of these misogynistic fools is putting her life and the lives of her daughters at risk! Maybe the insurance companies should also not pay for erection drugs for men and who knows what next? There are a lot of folks with high blood pressure, what about if they were told they were no longer covered? These jerks need to be voted out of Congress and the human race!
Righties can't read unless it comes from Fox. The GOP have done absolutely nothing except to push bills having to do with abortion. All they do is change language on bills that are already passed. Why don;t they just go home and save money? I'm sure the cult evangelical are already had their azzes kissed enough. Hey Boner, where are the jobs you spewed about?
libs like to twist the facts, the bill does not banns abortions it bans the use of federal funds(taxpayers money) to cover any costs of any health care plan that covers abortions.
Also prohibits government agencies from "discriminating" against health care providers who refuse to undergo, require, provide, or refer for training to perform abortions.
@salihadjic It also works against health insurance options that give abortion coverage .. which is a defacto ban on abortion. Here-to-for doctors have not been able to use the "conscious" because the domino effect of such an out would be disastrous. Some religious doctors may believe very strongly in the idea that because of Eve women MUST face pain in childbirth, and there fore without pain killers and spinal blocks - with provisions like this they have an out. or . . .
@salihadjic or they may feel very strongly about infidelity and refuse to treat a married man who has contracted syphilis, or pull the plug on a person in a permanent vegetative state, even though the family wants it done .. this out will have a domino effect
first of all what you said is a lie, they only prevent health insurances which are the part of the Exchange - the whole Obamacare - this bill IS supplementary to Obamacare,
If he makes us all pay, then at least lets make sure we are not being charged for someone-else' abortion.
When Obamacare will be repealed so will (h.r 358)
p.s
average cost of an abortion is $468 , so i really don't think it would be disastrous
@salihadjic Social issues are RARELY so black and white. This is a horrible thing, denying funding to hospitals that teach abortive measures. These abortive measures are not only used to terminate pregnancies that are unwanted, they are more frequently used to save a woman's life who is having a miscarriage or experiences a dangerous pregnancy (like ectopic). Pro-life people like to make it seem as if all abortions are horrid and selfish, that is not the case.
@salihadjic Not silly. Read "When There's a Heartbeat". It's a medical journal article in which the researchers (through a totally unrelated subject) uncovered the protocol in which Catholic hospitals (which have adopted the life at fertilization concept) treat women with dangerous pregnancies or miscarriages. These situations are the same ones personhood amendments would create. I think the article speaks for itself. BTW, site your sources, it helps in credibility.
it's from wiki - they have their references and citations in "Notes and references" section
What you are talking about is not what majority of women are concerned about. A lot of them believe that by all this "women rights" are somehow being violated, while the truth is rare and individual cases should be viewed, not the laws - there is nothing wrong with the laws.
@salihadjic Wikipedia is a terrible source to site. Anyone and their mother can add whatever they choose to the website and there is not any research data to really back it up. I cited a MEDICAL JOURNAL, i.e. it has provable data research and is published. Secondly, I highly doubt you have any idea what you're talking about, this IS a major concern to MOST women I know. There is no personhood definition passed in any state yet, my state MIGHT be the first in Nov. We're fighting it here.
The Guttmacher Institute is a semi-autonomous division of The Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Inc. (PPAF) is a related organization which lobbies for PRO-CHOICE legislation.
So i guess you should have no doubt in its intentions. (this may even be a little biased towards pro_choice )
@salihadjic Still doesn't answer my question as to why you want to punish the women who are victims because of those who choose to have an elective abortion. Just because they are smaller in number does not mean they don't exist or don't matter. They would be treated cruelly just the same.
Skeletor speaks. When will she realize 'we won' last year. Her agenda is dead, smashed with that big ass gavel she likes to hammer. See ya grannie. Go count your millions before they come to take it away.
I can't even stand to look at her, much less listen to her outrageous lies. :[ I'm hoping that these people will be out of power very soon before they can do anymore damage.
Pelosi talking about a bill that simply protects taxpayers from having to subsidize abortions through Obamacare.
This is about just how out-of-touch progressives are on social issues. If you fail to show sufficient enthusiasm for paying to kill someone else's baby, it is a sign that you're heartless.
@FrankCastlez How is it heartless to want to save a woman's life?
Everyone needs to stop their vicious personal attacks on Pelosi (be it her looks, her gender, etc). That is NOT how you formulate a sound argument for your case.
@Amoron save a womans life what..through an abortion... If you fail to show sufficient enthusiasm for paying to kill someone else's baby, it is a sign that you're heartless. Thats what Pelosi said.
@FrankCastlez Frank is obviously a MAN'S name! Let's make sure no one has to pay for vasectomies for men either, and make sure men are forced to have vasectomies only on the black market, and, of course, a few will die in back room vasectomies. So be it! But the most important fact men like you have no ability to absorb, NO TAXPAYER FUNDS can be used for abortions, and this has been so since the days of Reagan. But I doubt facts make it through your skull to your brain.
I'm a guy and i agree that no taxpayer money should go to such a redundant procedure as vasectomy (or abortion aside from the cases when it is essential )
What's gonna be next? A plastic surgery for taxpayers money?
This is what Rethuglicans are doing to "create jobs"? As Rachel Maddow said last night, this is about the 4th or 5th time this year Rethuglicans in Congress have gone after women on the issue of abortion, instead of dealing with the economy, which is really what most Americans are worried about. Mr Boehner: where are the jobs? We need to get the House back from the Republican majority next election,or we will all be doomed.
@CYBERJ0B Obviously you have a hearing problem. No Americans have to pay for abortions! But I don't expect your reading skills to be any better than your hearing skills. It will "help" the American economy for women to die ? How does that make sense?
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Pro choice or pro life you need to see the Youtube video Aborto real por solución salina then give your comments.
timetomakeauturn 1 week ago
The hippocratic oath only applies to people. Apparently people are only men or fetuses. Go figure.
HumanityStupidity 1 month ago
BOO!
STOP KILLING AMERICA!
WE NEED A REVOLT!
Vorzt 3 months ago
Nancy Pelosi apparently bought $1 million to $5 million of Visa stock in one of the most sought-after and profitable initial public offerings (IPO) in American history, thwarted serious credit card reform for two years, and then watched her investment skyrocket 203%. This woman belongs in jail.
dkkght46 3 months ago
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Pelosi said, Americans Approved of Congress When I Was Speaker. An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly would make more sense than Pelosi. Pelosi talks so much she can't tell the difference between herself and other voices. As long as the nation is obsessed with different kind of politics, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become the speaker? Stupidity has a new face.
dkkght46 3 months ago
Wow, I sure am glad I'm a male.
TheRadicalOneNG 4 months ago
Wow. She is such an idiot. How did she get there?
BergePolitico 4 months ago
I bet she has a dark hairy hole!
alwayssmile4u66 4 months ago
@alwayssmile4u66 She IS a 'dark hairy hole,' and full of shit to boot! She's a human flatus! Her voice may have changed but I bet her breath smells the same...
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
OMG! I didn't know pregnancy was a fatal disease! What a friggin' idiot. Obama promised us Obamacare did not provide for federally funded abortions. OMG! You don't think the Wicked Witch of the West is calling the boy king a liar!?!?!
LiberalDrivel 4 months ago
@the1calledv - Don't you get it? It's not the life of the baby they care about! In fact, they want it dead. If it was a Fairy Shrimp in a pisshole or a bacteria in a cave, then they'd be all, "Save The Bacteria Man" but since it's a baby and they despise western humanity, they want that baby dead and chopped up into pieces. After all, it a woman's choice, right? But only if they can also make millions of dollars in campain contributions doing it. Just like they always say, "follow the money"
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
@tracymccourt - OOPS! Sorry about the mix up. I guess your girly name gave it away. But if you truly support this hag (Pelosky) then your penis must have turned into a vagina along time ago. Good luck with that... Stacy.
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
YOU REALLY ARENT THIS STUPID ARE YOU/?????????? they dont have to ABORT a baby to save the woman's life- they can DELIVER the baby! If the intention is truly to save the womans life- why then is it necesary to kill the baby Deliver the baby(btw-less trauma to mother) and if its viable it will live- take a look at exactly what is involved in a late term abortion- you will think again! They dont care about saving lives- quite opposite.AND YOU ALL BELIEVE OBVIOUS PROPAGANDA-THINK FOR YOURSELF!
the1calledv 4 months ago
If pointing out Pelosi and her unequaled level of corruption and dishonesty makes me a sociopath then you got it! Small price to pay baby... BTW, you sure are sexy when you're angry... =)
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
@skiporamadeducci --Really-then you are gay dude because I'm a guy.
tracymccourt 4 months ago
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skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
Yeh, that's what it's about, that's what those who oppose this bill want, a woman to die on the floor. Wake up.
paxomatic2 4 months ago
There NEEDS to be more women like her in politics. More women making pro-women decisions. This has nothing to do with abortion now. This is about shamelessly allowing doctors to let women die instead of saving their lives. I have said it before and will repeat myself here: some of so-called "pro-lifers" are some of the most pro-death people I know. Vile and disgusting. They are occupying our womb. Time to kick them out of there!
Skulander1 4 months ago
"Liberalism is a mental disorder," here's your proof!
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
@skiporamadeducci I'd rather have a mental disorder than have sub-arachnid reasoning skills like the religious right does.
N33DL3R 4 months ago
@skiporamadeducci --Sociopathy is a personality disorder....and you're the proof.
tracymccourt 4 months ago
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tracymccourt 4 months ago
Its funny how for many of these politicians it is a medical procedue, but when it is their own children then it is a life. There are more women that die because of abortion - I have seen the medical examiners wheeling out dead bodies of mothers- out of abortion clinics. But for these politicians they are collateral damage.
steviet2 4 months ago
Of all the countries claiming to be a "western civilization", America is truly the most primitive and backwards one.
EyeoftheU 4 months ago
@EyeoftheU You can thank the mix of extreme conservatism and the bronze age religion it endorses for the barbarism in the U.S. I want to leave, but I also want to stay and fight for a more civilized America.
N33DL3R 4 months ago
What a big surprise, the GOP doesn't respect women!
judyleasugar97 4 months ago
How does someone so utterly IGNORANT get elected to public office?
Because equally ignorant voters pull the level for them!
Thank GOD she is no longer Speaker.
zigfried64 4 months ago
@zigfried64 Lol, and fucking BONER isn't an ignorant fatass oaf?
SickMouth 4 months ago
@SickMouth I could come up with a HUGE list of Pelosi's stupid, ignorant remarks. Can you for Boehner?
zigfried64 4 months ago
@zigfried64 I can, indeed. Just listen to EVERYTHING he's EVER said. There's your list.
SickMouth 4 months ago
@zigfried64 Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill in order to find out what's in it."
zigfried64 4 months ago
If they had not changed the long-standing rule about federal funds being used for abortion (even Obama issued an executive order against it) then new law wouldn't be necessary to undo the mess that Nancy's HCR legislation created. Repeal it and replace it with personal responsibility.
Close up them legs.
CYBERJ0B 4 months ago
I'm glad to live in Europe and not in the US.
MarillenknoedeI 4 months ago 5
@MarillenknoedeI lol what part of the EU are you from ..cuz you guys are fucked ... Islam is killing you guys right now .. start ya boat and start ya paddles
SupaNami 3 months ago
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skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
Given the fact that this thing on the screen must be at least 190 years old, there is no way it can live much longer. Soon, old age and gravity will catch up with it and the sun's glorious radiation will do it's thing. When this beast finally passes from extremely old age, there will be a rumbling of cheers and overwhelming celebration as if the most evil of dictators had died. On that day, I will invite all of my friends to a party and we will throw down like there's no tomorrow!
skiporamadeducci 4 months ago
well lets hope Palin will get into this situation..
;)
gr8Sweetfox 4 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS REAL!??!?!?!?
I thought this was an Onion type story when I saw it on reddit
I. Am. Appalled.
TitaniumTicTac 4 months ago
Love you Pelosi!
bitzomby 4 months ago
un-fuckin-believable
the us is ruled by christian fundamentalists -___-
pls go to school/college, guys, not to the motherfuckin churchs or whatever holy halls there are.
frankdrebiin 4 months ago 4
@frankdrebiin You know, if it wasn't so fucking expensive to go to uni in the U.S., more people would BUT the elite want to keep the working class people ignorant of course. Thank God I am an atheist with a college education!
jfkjrlover 4 months ago
@jfkjrlover yeah, it's unacceptable, that higher education is only open for the still wealthy people in a so called modern society.
they should tax the rich more more more. they could give, without losing any quality of living.
then close the military/security sectors and spend the won money for the social, health and education.
this would create many good jobs in the public sector.
it could be so easy, i guess...
frankdrebiin 4 months ago
@frankdrebiin you're a tool of the system .. stop you hate on Christian's ... you're a bi product of life ... plz leave us some hope :D...
SupaNami 3 months ago
@FrankCastlez - How heartless is is to really - really - think that what Nancy Pelosi says is true? Women will ONLY - NOT - get an abortion because the Clinics ALWAYS require MONEY FIRST. EVERY ONE. NO EXCEPTIONS. If the DMV wasn't in charge of healthcare you would not have these issues. These people just want it all for FREE! There is NO EVIDENCE to support her DEPRAVED CLAIM. NONE.
You want a Postal or DMV type of facility doing your healthcare?
REALLY?
chris100358 4 months ago
New rule. You can't claim to be the party of life while advocating for a bill that will cause women to die.
jacobryanball10 4 months ago
I will not pay taxes so you can kill your children. Send your Gestapo.
Coffeeandasmoke 4 months ago
How did she get elected?
donsbarkingdogs3 4 months ago
The botox has really seeped into her brain, hasn't it?
explore1960 4 months ago
Federal funding for abortion was outlawed in 1976 with the Hyde amendment. Why is Congress wasting time with this?
shelstoy 4 months ago
I am a woman and I do NOT agree with Nancy Pelosi. I do not want to fund some's abortion. I do not want my tax dollars to fund abortion.
zoechristine 4 months ago
This bill is appalling! This bill is similar to the bills that Barack Obama fought for to get passed as a Senator of the State of Illinois that said that a baby surviving a late term abortion shall be allowed to die on the table, and medical treatment may be completely withheld from the surviving baby. Well, who wants a dem baby with a hole in the back of the head anyway? Never mind.
BlackSwanTactical 4 months ago
Thank you Rep. Pelosi. You make me proud. (From an old White guy.)
betterdays105 4 months ago 3
The Hyde amendment is a rider, not a permanent law. It usually applies only to things like Medicaid. Get YOUR facts straight before you go spouting off insulting people with sensibilities different from yours. And as for the "fetus" comment - if you have any knowledge of embryology - the term fetus refers to a developing mammal. Using etymology to de-humanize a victim is an old trick. Just look back to the way African-American slaves and Jews were described by their predators.
sherrieh100 4 months ago
@sherrieh100 fetus is also used to describe "fetal" development .. ever taken an Anatomy and Physiology class?
bluemahajer 4 months ago
@bluemahajer Actually I TEACH A & P - I have my doctorate in Anatomy and Cell Biology and a concentration in developmental biology. Smarminess suits your lack of information.
sherrieh100 4 months ago
@sherrieh100 It IS just a goddamn fetus in the womb! Why shouldn't it be called that? Should it be called a precious, wittle blessing? Everyone loves to fuck but not everyone loves babies, me included, and it makes me happy when I hear about new life being prevented. Too many people already.
jfkjrlover 4 months ago
@jfkjrlover As educated as your thoughts are, tax payer dollars should not be spend for ANY elective surgery or procedure.
FugitiveCon 4 months ago
The Hyde amendment is a rider, not a permanent law. It usually applies only to things like Medicaid. Get YOUR facts straight before you go spouting off insulting people with sensibilities different from yours. And as for the "fetus" comment - if you have any knowledge of embryology - the term fetus refers to a developing mammal. Using etymology to fe-humanize a victim is an old trick. Just look back to the way slaves and jews were described by their predators.
sherrieh100 4 months ago
Man, what a friggin nut job
bishopm5 4 months ago
I see a a lot of anti-abortion advocates on here seem to be brain washed and misinformed. Ever heard of the Hyde amendment? Well its been around for 30 years. This legislation is about controlling private insurers not tax payer funded ones.
Ishampadron 4 months ago
retarded logic, pro-life only in terms of foetus- but they don't care if a woman dies because her life is secondary to that of the dependant group of cells growing inside her? wow America ever heard of the separation of Church and State? stop trying to enforce your religious ideology onto female uteruses
as2711 4 months ago 4
So...are we going to have to occupy Congress to get them to address the needs of the people????? What are the republicans doing?????
peacefullaim1 4 months ago
Women's reproductive health is very important to the GOP, as well as the health of the unborn child. How can you not connect the two? Abortion is murder, plain and simple, and should not be funded by the government.
kbemmer 4 months ago
@kbemmer So is not letting a woman have an abortion even though her life might me at risk. Get educated...
LaurenisinWonderland 4 months ago
@LaurenisinWonderland Women at risk and feel in "need" of an abortion is only a small percentage; 6% are due to medical reasons and 1% for abuse and rape. Very sad statistics.
kbemmer 4 months ago
Any woman who actually votes for one of these misogynistic fools is putting her life and the lives of her daughters at risk! Maybe the insurance companies should also not pay for erection drugs for men and who knows what next? There are a lot of folks with high blood pressure, what about if they were told they were no longer covered? These jerks need to be voted out of Congress and the human race!
rswpolkie 4 months ago
"we have to pass the bill to know what's in it" Nancy Pelosi
lmao
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic
Righties can't read unless it comes from Fox. The GOP have done absolutely nothing except to push bills having to do with abortion. All they do is change language on bills that are already passed. Why don;t they just go home and save money? I'm sure the cult evangelical are already had their azzes kissed enough. Hey Boner, where are the jobs you spewed about?
whatnowgop 4 months ago 3
@whatnowgop
libs like to twist the facts, the bill does not banns abortions it bans the use of federal funds(taxpayers money) to cover any costs of any health care plan that covers abortions.
Also prohibits government agencies from "discriminating" against health care providers who refuse to undergo, require, provide, or refer for training to perform abortions.
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic It also works against health insurance options that give abortion coverage .. which is a defacto ban on abortion. Here-to-for doctors have not been able to use the "conscious" because the domino effect of such an out would be disastrous. Some religious doctors may believe very strongly in the idea that because of Eve women MUST face pain in childbirth, and there fore without pain killers and spinal blocks - with provisions like this they have an out. or . . .
bluemahajer 4 months ago
@salihadjic or they may feel very strongly about infidelity and refuse to treat a married man who has contracted syphilis, or pull the plug on a person in a permanent vegetative state, even though the family wants it done .. this out will have a domino effect
bluemahajer 4 months ago
@bluemahajer
first of all what you said is a lie, they only prevent health insurances which are the part of the Exchange - the whole Obamacare - this bill IS supplementary to Obamacare,
If he makes us all pay, then at least lets make sure we are not being charged for someone-else' abortion.
When Obamacare will be repealed so will (h.r 358)
p.s
average cost of an abortion is $468 , so i really don't think it would be disastrous
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic Social issues are RARELY so black and white. This is a horrible thing, denying funding to hospitals that teach abortive measures. These abortive measures are not only used to terminate pregnancies that are unwanted, they are more frequently used to save a woman's life who is having a miscarriage or experiences a dangerous pregnancy (like ectopic). Pro-life people like to make it seem as if all abortions are horrid and selfish, that is not the case.
MissIndianaJones83 4 months ago
@MissIndianaJones83
Please look at the statistics, 3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health - those are the amongst the reasons for terminating pregnancy - but as you can see that happens much rarer than other
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
etc.
check that for yourself
No sane person would stand against woman saving her own life - your assumptions are silly
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic Not silly. Read "When There's a Heartbeat". It's a medical journal article in which the researchers (through a totally unrelated subject) uncovered the protocol in which Catholic hospitals (which have adopted the life at fertilization concept) treat women with dangerous pregnancies or miscarriages. These situations are the same ones personhood amendments would create. I think the article speaks for itself. BTW, site your sources, it helps in credibility.
MissIndianaJones83 4 months ago
@MissIndianaJones83
it's from wiki - they have their references and citations in "Notes and references" section
What you are talking about is not what majority of women are concerned about. A lot of them believe that by all this "women rights" are somehow being violated, while the truth is rare and individual cases should be viewed, not the laws - there is nothing wrong with the laws.
salihadjic 4 months ago
@salihadjic Wikipedia is a terrible source to site. Anyone and their mother can add whatever they choose to the website and there is not any research data to really back it up. I cited a MEDICAL JOURNAL, i.e. it has provable data research and is published. Secondly, I highly doubt you have any idea what you're talking about, this IS a major concern to MOST women I know. There is no personhood definition passed in any state yet, my state MIGHT be the first in Nov. We're fighting it here.
MissIndianaJones83 4 months ago
@MissIndianaJones83
johnstonsarchive . net /policy/abortion/abreasons . html
The data is from AGI - Alan Guttmacher Institute is a non-profit organization which works to advance sexual and reproductive health.
salihadjic 4 months ago
@MissIndianaJones83
The Guttmacher Institute is a semi-autonomous division of The Planned Parenthood Federation of America. The Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Inc. (PPAF) is a related organization which lobbies for PRO-CHOICE legislation.
So i guess you should have no doubt in its intentions. (this may even be a little biased towards pro_choice )
salihadjic 4 months ago
salihadjic 4 months ago
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@salihadjic Still doesn't answer my question as to why you want to punish the women who are victims because of those who choose to have an elective abortion. Just because they are smaller in number does not mean they don't exist or don't matter. They would be treated cruelly just the same.
MissIndianaJones83 4 months ago
Skeletor speaks. When will she realize 'we won' last year. Her agenda is dead, smashed with that big ass gavel she likes to hammer. See ya grannie. Go count your millions before they come to take it away.
CYBERJ0B 4 months ago
@CYBERJ0B
Like GOP congress.
whatnowgop 4 months ago
I can't even stand to look at her, much less listen to her outrageous lies. :[ I'm hoping that these people will be out of power very soon before they can do anymore damage.
scarlett156 4 months ago
@scarlett156
Read much? This is already in the news and is not a lie.
whatnowgop 4 months ago 4
Pelosi talking about a bill that simply protects taxpayers from having to subsidize abortions through Obamacare.
This is about just how out-of-touch progressives are on social issues. If you fail to show sufficient enthusiasm for paying to kill someone else's baby, it is a sign that you're heartless.
pathetic leftists
FrankCastlez 4 months ago
@FrankCastlez How is it heartless to want to save a woman's life?
Everyone needs to stop their vicious personal attacks on Pelosi (be it her looks, her gender, etc). That is NOT how you formulate a sound argument for your case.
Arwydd 4 months ago 20
@Amoron save a womans life what..through an abortion... If you fail to show sufficient enthusiasm for paying to kill someone else's baby, it is a sign that you're heartless. Thats what Pelosi said.
get it through your head
FrankCastlez 4 months ago
@FrankCastlez Frank is obviously a MAN'S name! Let's make sure no one has to pay for vasectomies for men either, and make sure men are forced to have vasectomies only on the black market, and, of course, a few will die in back room vasectomies. So be it! But the most important fact men like you have no ability to absorb, NO TAXPAYER FUNDS can be used for abortions, and this has been so since the days of Reagan. But I doubt facts make it through your skull to your brain.
awreslr2 4 months ago 11
@fuckingmoron men's vasectomies!!
are you fucking kidding!!
No TAXPAYER FUNDS for ABORTIONS!! GREAT! thats what The bill protects Douchebag leftist!!
pathetic leftist ass
FrankCastlez 4 months ago
@awreslr2
I'm a guy and i agree that no taxpayer money should go to such a redundant procedure as vasectomy (or abortion aside from the cases when it is essential )
What's gonna be next? A plastic surgery for taxpayers money?
salihadjic 4 months ago
This is what Rethuglicans are doing to "create jobs"? As Rachel Maddow said last night, this is about the 4th or 5th time this year Rethuglicans in Congress have gone after women on the issue of abortion, instead of dealing with the economy, which is really what most Americans are worried about. Mr Boehner: where are the jobs? We need to get the House back from the Republican majority next election,or we will all be doomed.
awreslr2 4 months ago 3
@awreslr2 it will help the economy when Americans don't have to pay for what the lazy and irresponsible want for free.
CYBERJ0B 4 months ago
@CYBERJ0B Obviously you have a hearing problem. No Americans have to pay for abortions! But I don't expect your reading skills to be any better than your hearing skills. It will "help" the American economy for women to die ? How does that make sense?
awreslr2 4 months ago 3
@awreslr2 How many women 'died on the floor' before ObamaCare changed the federal funding rules? Straw woman.
CYBERJ0B 4 months ago
@awreslr2 Thugs? Check out the DOJ and the White House.
CYBERJ0B 4 months ago