ONE THING IS MURDER IN THE NAME OF GOD AND OTHER GOT MURDER PEOPLE .. THE RELIJION OF THE WORLD ARE RITHGT ... THEIR LEADER ARE THE ONES WHO KILLS IN THE NAME OF GOD NOT GOD .. DONT JUDGS A RELIJION FOR THE IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO MAKE THA BAD REPUTATION ..DONT BELIVE WHAT MEN SAID ABOUT GOD...BELIVE WHAT GOD SAID ABOUT GOD ...
@1190kobra if it wasn't for God as an excuse they never could have manifested the "right " to kill in the first place. If God wasn't anything more than a tool used to justify the wrong a man does than God would have stopped it.
@warangel87 God said ..you are free to do warever you like .. are men action that kill not god.. it the same if you dont kill in the name of GOD...YOU WILL KILL IN THE NAME OF MONEY ...YOU WILL FOR VENGANCE.. YOU WILL KILL FOR POWER.. YOU WILL KILL FOR A NATION.. in other words we are bullshit
@1190kobra When men want to kill this badly, any excuse will do, religious or otherwise. Without Christianity, there still would have been the Crusades; they just would have had a different excuse. Without Islam, there would still have been 9/11; they just would have had a different excuse. Without religion, we still would have every vice and evil we have now. Those who do it in the name of faith would simply have a different excuse.
@Stardweller1 EXACTLEY ARE EXUSES ..BUT RELIJION NEVER SAY KILL AVRIBODY KILL THIS KILL THAT.. WE ARE REPONSABLE FOR OWN ACTION .. WE KILL FOR GOD NOT GOD ..WE HUMAN USES EXUSES TO JUSTIFY OUR NATURE ..
@Stardweller1 I can't speak against all religion because I can't possibly know them all but in the case of Christianity and Islam, any other beliefs are demonized and deemed "evil" giving justification to remove them. I emphasize on the word JUSTIFICATION, not excuses. The only difference between the two is that one makes belligerence and intolerance "acceptable".
@sh7de That's a little too generalized even for Christianity and Islam. These are two of the largest religious groups in the world, with such a diversity of sects, cults, creeds, and denominations that I find it hard to believe that you can even know all about them. Thus, I would think that what you said about other religions (that you can't possibly know them all) applies to the different forms of Christianity and Islam as well.
Propaganda, he knew Christians were on the rise so he had to favor them for support for power. It's all about conquering. Just an older version of Hitler.
@EBKCuz@urmo345 Since Constantine STOPPED the persecutions & saved thousands of people from them while Hitler STARTED cruel persecutions, I think any comparison between them is unfair, stupid & unscientific. Constantine was a wise & provident ruler who changed the Roman empire for the better and regenerated it. Before him the empire was half-dead. All his decisions (solidus, transfer of the City) were proven excellent for his state and its citizens.
@Lhein33 , How so? If he had never jumped into that christian bandwagon, he would have went down in history as a tyrant ruler who over threw rulers for power. He splited the Roman Empire which later resulted to fallen Rome.
@EBKCuz Are you sure you know history? How can you say that Constantine split the empire? He united the empire. Before him and due to the 3rd century crisis and to Diocletian's reforms the empire was split into four (or two, if you prefer): 2 augusti & 2 caesares.
Constantine united the empire under his rule in the usual way of the ancient world. The same was done by almost every other ancient king.
Also, why do you call Constantine a tyrant since his policy was placatory & wise?
I like Licinus's armor even though he is a Pagan still a good looking armor well I guess because he is wearing Red Constatine's army wore red but they didnt put that so people could tell the diffirence between the armies
all those roman armies... wasted...away.. if you think about it, all those armies of the civil wars could have been handy during Julian's persian war, or repelling the goths and avoiding Adrianople... =(
i agree with you dave but not to that extent i dont like christianity for what its done either but people should be allowed to practice it. every religion has had its times of grim and killings so not everything is so clean or pure this just is history so dont hate it it, becuase its already happened no one can chnge it
I am Catholic Christian, and that Chritian standard of Jesus Christ scared me even. It is awesome to see it in the battle, and I would hate to fight against it for it is an utterly frightening sight. Who can stand against the Lord? Enemies tremple and run in fear!
I cannot state how important Constantine's reign was to Christianity. Due to severe persecution, the genocide of the saints of God for 300 years resulted in the gospel being confined to the continent of Southern and Eastern Europe.
Jesus says in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come".
The end of persecution is the fulfillment of prophecy that Christianity will become a global religion.
Constantine: "...a holy war... by your sword, we bring peace to the world...!"
...then one day, having died, Constantine comes up to the gates of Heaven, and Peter says 'and so...who are you?'...so they go and get Jesus, and He says "Verily, I do not know you".
Nobody knows who went to heaven or not. However, is it a just cause to liberate the Christians persecuted by Licinius? Just like Lincoln liberated the African Americans from slavery?
Think about it. Persecution in Roman times was far worse than slavery in America. You get tortured to death for being Christian.
I checked Wikipedia and they say that the Byzantines had Jesus being born in the year 5509. That Day One of the world was September 1st 5509 BC. So the Byzantines must have had a different calendar from us?
@edinscot56789 When you read Orwell's 1984, you see a 20th century generation who don't know who Jesus is. See how easy it is to bury the past in such a short space of time? They taught us NONE of this at school. And I read somewhere that up to about 1750, spring was the New Year in Christian countries.
Its not an excuse. It is a truth. After 300 years of terrible and horrendous persecution, the driving of the Holy church into the underground cities, the catacombs, yet more and more Romans became Christians.
It was the power of miracles that convinced the early Christians and in Constantine's case, a miracle witnessed by him and all his troops in the sky. This led to Constantine's conviction to convert and to become driven by faith, although sometimes mixed with his own agenda
@dishwasherman83 The 'Ecclesiastical Histories' written by Eusebius, friend of Consantine and Bishop of Caeseria, makes no mention of a vision then, although Lactantius, the Christian tutor of his son mentions a dream. 98,000 people also present didn't see anything. Only 25 years later when Eusebius wrote 'Life of Constantine' did this dream grow into a vision. Constantin's coins, minted from 310, carry the dedication of Sol Invictus.
@dishwasherman83 Constantin's Edict of Milan demands toleration of all religious practice, and Constantine never made Christanity offical religion of the Empire. His inscriptions of the time use the phrase 'Instinctu divinitatis' which is ambigious. There is no mention of Jesus, Christ, Christians or the cross. His holy battle standard, the Labarum, represents Sol Invictus better than Christianity.
The 'vision' isn't mentioned anywhere until 'Life of Constantine' 25 years after the event.
There is no doubt about the ambiguity of Constantine's beliefs during his reign. He was a pagan before his divine appointment. Moreover, most Romans were too ingrained in their pagan roots that they attribute Christ to be the sun god Sol Invictus upon first accepting Christianity. Constantine was one of them. He was not schooled in the original canon. Therefore it was down to his own personal beliefs, confusing Sol Invictus to be Jesus. leading to the pagan influence of the chrch
However, Constantine's life did not end upon his first commitment to Christianity. No doubt about the lack of proper Christian belief system during his early years as Emperor. When he was dying, he wanted to be baptized just as Christ did in the River Jordan, of which he did. He promised to be a better Christian, knowing the evils of Roman politics. In death, we see the true heart of Constantine of which is his affection to the Christian God which has been his benefactor.
The Nicene Creed, is the best evidence of Constantine's agenda for the Empire and for Christianity. I am glad that you have done ample research and I do agree with some of your statements. But the Nicene Creed is the universal declaration of the canonical doctrine about God, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It is based on the Holy Canon, accepted by almost ALL branches of churches, Catholic or Protestant. It is the foundation of Christianity emerging from early persecution.
@dishwasherman83 The Nicene Creed was an attempt to stop violence between Christians, which had become very destructive. It was a hatchet job on Arius by Alexander and Athanasius. The Churches of the West seem to have taken almost no interest in it. I lost count of the Ecumenical councils that followed amending the creed, certainly 13.
I always find it amazing that thousands upon thousands of morons are so willing to die trying to kill thousands upon thousands of other morons simply because they can't agree on the same fairy tale.
it's funny how in almost any youtube historical video the comments that favour atheism get + ratings, except when the documentary is about either Constantine or the Crusades where fanatics come and tell about their ridiculous beliefs
a lot of people start out right, but the power really does corrupt. None can prevent that from happening no matter how honorable you start. Eventually they all give in to their instinct - that is to get more power. This cycle is inevitable.
Fellow Christian here. Personally, I'm glad Constantine got his way, it was a major victory for Christianity. However, if there's anything I disapprove of it was the Crusades. They were the work of nothing more than imperialist warmongerers who were merely using Christianity as a cover to further their own corrupt agendas.
I wish Christianity didn't dominate out science. Thats still a problem today. If we continued in scientific advancements throughout the dark ages, we would be flying around in space ships instead of driving cars. and who knows what else. Maybe we would be living to 500 years old or more.
@saiyanprince09 Another good one is "God's undertaker, has science burried God" by John Lennox. You should check that one out if you get the chance ,its great
@saiyanprince09 : The scientific method is simply a formalization of the logic that most of us use when we are not carried away by zeal for what we want to believe instead of what the evidence supports. A religious person uses a completely different logic when shopping for a house, a car, or a toaster, than he does when evaluating his own beliefs about the numinous. Odd. Because the numinous is clearly far more important, and deserves the lion's share of consideration. People think small...
It is believed by Christians that it is 6000yrs old because of the time table of births and deaths of the generations listed in the bible added together. After they add all the people over time it adds up to about 6000yrs.
actually it was to stop the tide of islam and come to the aid of byzantium,when the muslims took jerusalem in the last 600's it was not a big deal as they still allowed christians and jews to come and pilgrimage there by in the 1000's they began to ban christians and jews and began to further their conquest of byzantium and as it was the defence between the east and the west byzantium falling to islam was a major concern and so the 1st crusade was called
@mountainstandardtime If you want to talk murder, nothing in 1500+ years of Christian history compares with the 100+ million people murdered by the athiestic regimes and ideologies of the 20th century. The Crusades weren't pretty, but a lot of people don't realize Christian Europe was under seige for 4 centuries from Muslim invasions and finally decided to strike back.
How about this. When we die, we just die. There is not God. And theres no such thing as the Devil, and those morons who flew into the buildings, just died!! They didn't go to heaven, or hell. They just simply don't exist anymore. Islam is as stupid as the rest of religion. We all end up in the ground, and GAME OVER!!!
People acting like before Christianity the were no wars.
Wars have always been and always will be.
AlexiusMoore 5 days ago
This makes me want to play Rome total war: Barbarian Invasion.
baabaaer 3 weeks ago
@baabaaer Me too!
Juggernaught555 3 weeks ago
ONE THING IS MURDER IN THE NAME OF GOD AND OTHER GOT MURDER PEOPLE .. THE RELIJION OF THE WORLD ARE RITHGT ... THEIR LEADER ARE THE ONES WHO KILLS IN THE NAME OF GOD NOT GOD .. DONT JUDGS A RELIJION FOR THE IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO MAKE THA BAD REPUTATION ..DONT BELIVE WHAT MEN SAID ABOUT GOD...BELIVE WHAT GOD SAID ABOUT GOD ...
1190kobra 1 month ago
@1190kobra if it wasn't for God as an excuse they never could have manifested the "right " to kill in the first place. If God wasn't anything more than a tool used to justify the wrong a man does than God would have stopped it.
warangel87 3 weeks ago
@warangel87 God said ..you are free to do warever you like .. are men action that kill not god.. it the same if you dont kill in the name of GOD...YOU WILL KILL IN THE NAME OF MONEY ...YOU WILL FOR VENGANCE.. YOU WILL KILL FOR POWER.. YOU WILL KILL FOR A NATION.. in other words we are bullshit
1190kobra 3 weeks ago
@1190kobra When men want to kill this badly, any excuse will do, religious or otherwise. Without Christianity, there still would have been the Crusades; they just would have had a different excuse. Without Islam, there would still have been 9/11; they just would have had a different excuse. Without religion, we still would have every vice and evil we have now. Those who do it in the name of faith would simply have a different excuse.
Stardweller1 3 weeks ago
@Stardweller1 EXACTLEY ARE EXUSES ..BUT RELIJION NEVER SAY KILL AVRIBODY KILL THIS KILL THAT.. WE ARE REPONSABLE FOR OWN ACTION .. WE KILL FOR GOD NOT GOD ..WE HUMAN USES EXUSES TO JUSTIFY OUR NATURE ..
1190kobra 3 weeks ago
@Stardweller1 I can't speak against all religion because I can't possibly know them all but in the case of Christianity and Islam, any other beliefs are demonized and deemed "evil" giving justification to remove them. I emphasize on the word JUSTIFICATION, not excuses. The only difference between the two is that one makes belligerence and intolerance "acceptable".
sh7de 1 week ago
@sh7de That's a little too generalized even for Christianity and Islam. These are two of the largest religious groups in the world, with such a diversity of sects, cults, creeds, and denominations that I find it hard to believe that you can even know all about them. Thus, I would think that what you said about other religions (that you can't possibly know them all) applies to the different forms of Christianity and Islam as well.
Stardweller1 1 week ago
I almost laughed at the banner part & how it is said the Romans fled because of it
KubernetePirata 1 month ago
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04:30 for a second, I thought he was going to say "you underestimated the power of the dark side of the force."
VobisPacem 1 month ago
lucinius was a dick
StrathendrickPiper 3 months ago
Constantinus...I wonder why this murderous guy who used christianity as a political tool is made a saint? He most probably was not christian himself.
urmo345 3 months ago
@urmo345
Propaganda, he knew Christians were on the rise so he had to favor them for support for power. It's all about conquering. Just an older version of Hitler.
EBKCuz 3 months ago
@EBKCuz @urmo345 Since Constantine STOPPED the persecutions & saved thousands of people from them while Hitler STARTED cruel persecutions, I think any comparison between them is unfair, stupid & unscientific. Constantine was a wise & provident ruler who changed the Roman empire for the better and regenerated it. Before him the empire was half-dead. All his decisions (solidus, transfer of the City) were proven excellent for his state and its citizens.
PS: Saints are not "made" by men. Wrong term.
Lhein33 2 months ago
@Lhein33 , How so? If he had never jumped into that christian bandwagon, he would have went down in history as a tyrant ruler who over threw rulers for power. He splited the Roman Empire which later resulted to fallen Rome.
EBKCuz 1 month ago
@EBKCuz Are you sure you know history? How can you say that Constantine split the empire? He united the empire. Before him and due to the 3rd century crisis and to Diocletian's reforms the empire was split into four (or two, if you prefer): 2 augusti & 2 caesares.
Constantine united the empire under his rule in the usual way of the ancient world. The same was done by almost every other ancient king.
Also, why do you call Constantine a tyrant since his policy was placatory & wise?
Lhein33 1 month ago
THE BYZANTINES ARE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 3 months ago
I like Licinus's armor even though he is a Pagan still a good looking armor well I guess because he is wearing Red Constatine's army wore red but they didnt put that so people could tell the diffirence between the armies
TheSpaniard1521 4 months ago
all those roman armies... wasted...away.. if you think about it, all those armies of the civil wars could have been handy during Julian's persian war, or repelling the goths and avoiding Adrianople... =(
Justinian43 4 months ago
So they ran away from a piece of cloth? Lol?
TsarSamuil 6 months ago
i agree with you dave but not to that extent i dont like christianity for what its done either but people should be allowed to practice it. every religion has had its times of grim and killings so not everything is so clean or pure this just is history so dont hate it it, becuase its already happened no one can chnge it
mexiabeaner 6 months ago
Blue vs Red. The ultimate format war.
PaulGrantDesigns 7 months ago
I am Catholic Christian, and that Chritian standard of Jesus Christ scared me even. It is awesome to see it in the battle, and I would hate to fight against it for it is an utterly frightening sight. Who can stand against the Lord? Enemies tremple and run in fear!
UnitedKorean 8 months ago
ah, the truly First Crusade.
ProtestantIRA 9 months ago
ridicoules how many scenes were recycled from "Hannibal:Rome's worst nightmare"
ulongkoror 1 year ago
I cannot state how important Constantine's reign was to Christianity. Due to severe persecution, the genocide of the saints of God for 300 years resulted in the gospel being confined to the continent of Southern and Eastern Europe.
Jesus says in Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come".
The end of persecution is the fulfillment of prophecy that Christianity will become a global religion.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
Constantine: "...a holy war... by your sword, we bring peace to the world...!"
...then one day, having died, Constantine comes up to the gates of Heaven, and Peter says 'and so...who are you?'...so they go and get Jesus, and He says "Verily, I do not know you".
hearts0ngs 1 year ago
@hearts0ngs
Nobody knows who went to heaven or not. However, is it a just cause to liberate the Christians persecuted by Licinius? Just like Lincoln liberated the African Americans from slavery?
Think about it. Persecution in Roman times was far worse than slavery in America. You get tortured to death for being Christian.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
love how they used so many scenes from the hannibal barca documentary
ulongkoror 1 year ago
I checked Wikipedia and they say that the Byzantines had Jesus being born in the year 5509. That Day One of the world was September 1st 5509 BC. So the Byzantines must have had a different calendar from us?
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
@Kelly14UK Of course! The Gregorian calendar (today's calendar) was introduced in 1582 - over a century after the fall of the Byzantine Empire.
edinscot56789 1 year ago
@edinscot56789 When you read Orwell's 1984, you see a 20th century generation who don't know who Jesus is. See how easy it is to bury the past in such a short space of time? They taught us NONE of this at school. And I read somewhere that up to about 1750, spring was the New Year in Christian countries.
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
@Kelly14UK The vernal equinox. It still is in some Eastern calendars.
edinscot56789 1 year ago
@Kelly14UK Why do you think the tax year stats 5th April?
gamesbok 1 year ago
What a bastard Constantine was
Alexandros1294 1 year ago
Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
Psalm 68:1.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago 8
@dishwasherman83 That seems like a plausible excuse.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@gamesbok
Its not an excuse. It is a truth. After 300 years of terrible and horrendous persecution, the driving of the Holy church into the underground cities, the catacombs, yet more and more Romans became Christians.
It was the power of miracles that convinced the early Christians and in Constantine's case, a miracle witnessed by him and all his troops in the sky. This led to Constantine's conviction to convert and to become driven by faith, although sometimes mixed with his own agenda
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
@dishwasherman83 The 'Ecclesiastical Histories' written by Eusebius, friend of Consantine and Bishop of Caeseria, makes no mention of a vision then, although Lactantius, the Christian tutor of his son mentions a dream. 98,000 people also present didn't see anything. Only 25 years later when Eusebius wrote 'Life of Constantine' did this dream grow into a vision. Constantin's coins, minted from 310, carry the dedication of Sol Invictus.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@dishwasherman83 Constantin's Edict of Milan demands toleration of all religious practice, and Constantine never made Christanity offical religion of the Empire. His inscriptions of the time use the phrase 'Instinctu divinitatis' which is ambigious. There is no mention of Jesus, Christ, Christians or the cross. His holy battle standard, the Labarum, represents Sol Invictus better than Christianity.
The 'vision' isn't mentioned anywhere until 'Life of Constantine' 25 years after the event.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@gamesbok
There is no doubt about the ambiguity of Constantine's beliefs during his reign. He was a pagan before his divine appointment. Moreover, most Romans were too ingrained in their pagan roots that they attribute Christ to be the sun god Sol Invictus upon first accepting Christianity. Constantine was one of them. He was not schooled in the original canon. Therefore it was down to his own personal beliefs, confusing Sol Invictus to be Jesus. leading to the pagan influence of the chrch
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
@dishwasherman83
However, Constantine's life did not end upon his first commitment to Christianity. No doubt about the lack of proper Christian belief system during his early years as Emperor. When he was dying, he wanted to be baptized just as Christ did in the River Jordan, of which he did. He promised to be a better Christian, knowing the evils of Roman politics. In death, we see the true heart of Constantine of which is his affection to the Christian God which has been his benefactor.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
@gamesbok
The Nicene Creed, is the best evidence of Constantine's agenda for the Empire and for Christianity. I am glad that you have done ample research and I do agree with some of your statements. But the Nicene Creed is the universal declaration of the canonical doctrine about God, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It is based on the Holy Canon, accepted by almost ALL branches of churches, Catholic or Protestant. It is the foundation of Christianity emerging from early persecution.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
@dishwasherman83 The Nicene Creed was an attempt to stop violence between Christians, which had become very destructive. It was a hatchet job on Arius by Alexander and Athanasius. The Churches of the West seem to have taken almost no interest in it. I lost count of the Ecumenical councils that followed amending the creed, certainly 13.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@dishwasherman83 What a sweet guy.>_>
Seanze329 6 months ago
@dishwasherman83 Yeah, nice chap isn't he.
Blisterdude123 2 months ago
I always find it amazing that thousands upon thousands of morons are so willing to die trying to kill thousands upon thousands of other morons simply because they can't agree on the same fairy tale.
TheFallenWon 1 year ago
great use of religion boys... now days used for war profiteering :)
vombastic 1 year ago
it's funny how in almost any youtube historical video the comments that favour atheism get + ratings, except when the documentary is about either Constantine or the Crusades where fanatics come and tell about their ridiculous beliefs
AlexOfMacedonAOMH 1 year ago
There used to be white clothing everywhere...
What happened?
NiqueJB 2 years ago
@NiqueJB it got bloody
nwahforever 1 year ago
other than that, Licinius looks like Putin, prime minister of Russia, former president
vorotnikova 2 years ago
a lot of people start out right, but the power really does corrupt. None can prevent that from happening no matter how honorable you start. Eventually they all give in to their instinct - that is to get more power. This cycle is inevitable.
vorotnikova 2 years ago
i dont get it constantine had control and go and conquer the east then he conquer the hole roman empire
phoenixking321 2 years ago
The Byzantine Empire was created and later survived through Constantin's action of a Christian Empire.
May God bless him!
rocproc1010101 2 years ago
GOD GAVE US MORE THEN HE TOOK FROM US
archelalus 2 years ago
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davedaddy101 2 years ago 5
Fellow Christian here. Personally, I'm glad Constantine got his way, it was a major victory for Christianity. However, if there's anything I disapprove of it was the Crusades. They were the work of nothing more than imperialist warmongerers who were merely using Christianity as a cover to further their own corrupt agendas.
saiyanprince09 2 years ago 4
I wish Christianity didn't dominate out science. Thats still a problem today. If we continued in scientific advancements throughout the dark ages, we would be flying around in space ships instead of driving cars. and who knows what else. Maybe we would be living to 500 years old or more.
davedaddy101 2 years ago 3
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saiyanprince09 2 years ago 9
@saiyanprince09 indeed and most of the christians i know tell me God gave us science to better our selves and help humanity
Angel9477 1 year ago
@saiyanprince09 Another good one is "God's undertaker, has science burried God" by John Lennox. You should check that one out if you get the chance ,its great
Nerpha 1 year ago
@saiyanprince09 : The scientific method is simply a formalization of the logic that most of us use when we are not carried away by zeal for what we want to believe instead of what the evidence supports. A religious person uses a completely different logic when shopping for a house, a car, or a toaster, than he does when evaluating his own beliefs about the numinous. Odd. Because the numinous is clearly far more important, and deserves the lion's share of consideration. People think small...
sbergman27 1 year ago
@saiyanprince09
It does when the Bible says the Earth is 6,000 years old.
sexyloser1128 1 year ago
@sexyloser1128 Actually, it does not out right say this.
saiyanprince09 1 year ago
@sexyloser1128 Where in the bible does it say that?
SANxJONERO 1 year ago
@SANxJONERO
It is believed by Christians that it is 6000yrs old because of the time table of births and deaths of the generations listed in the bible added together. After they add all the people over time it adds up to about 6000yrs.
sexyloser1128 1 year ago
@saiyanprince09
actually it was to stop the tide of islam and come to the aid of byzantium,when the muslims took jerusalem in the last 600's it was not a big deal as they still allowed christians and jews to come and pilgrimage there by in the 1000's they began to ban christians and jews and began to further their conquest of byzantium and as it was the defence between the east and the west byzantium falling to islam was a major concern and so the 1st crusade was called
VigisKane 1 year ago
@VigisKane Battle of Manzikurt, 1074, where Byzantium attacked Islam, unnecessarily.
gamesbok 1 year ago
You would rather the other guys won?
SANxJONERO 2 years ago
I would have rathered that Christianity grow through peoples love and desire for the faith. Not because someone held a sword to peoples throats.
davedaddy101 2 years ago 5
Didn't seem like you meant that, but it's not like that was part of the story either. Constantine made it legal to worship whom you wanted in Rome.
SANxJONERO 2 years ago
not ultimately he didnt. He is the reason for some of the worst murders in the name of jesus, that there ever were in history.
davedaddy101 2 years ago 19
@davedaddy101 The entire faith of Christianity is steepped in murder to this day. The Crusades. The Inquisition.
Pograms. Missionaries. You push your beliefs on everyone. Fuck you and fuck Christianity.
mountainstandardtime 7 months ago
@mountainstandardtime You fucking moron. If you read my comments closer you would see that I agree with you. You fucking wimp.
davedaddy101 7 months ago
@mountainstandardtime If you want to talk murder, nothing in 1500+ years of Christian history compares with the 100+ million people murdered by the athiestic regimes and ideologies of the 20th century. The Crusades weren't pretty, but a lot of people don't realize Christian Europe was under seige for 4 centuries from Muslim invasions and finally decided to strike back.
Feanor1169 6 months ago
Thats why Islam will triumph over you, because you can only whine and eg for mercy. Everyman needs to fight for his believes even Christians.
Pourleduc 2 years ago
How about this. When we die, we just die. There is not God. And theres no such thing as the Devil, and those morons who flew into the buildings, just died!! They didn't go to heaven, or hell. They just simply don't exist anymore. Islam is as stupid as the rest of religion. We all end up in the ground, and GAME OVER!!!
davedaddy101 2 years ago
malakies
Spartan307 2 years ago