Rosie's right. Fire couldn't possibly have melted the steel in the World Trade Center! And friction couldn't possibly have melted the aluminum in the Space Shuttle Columbia!
Rosie you silly stupid bitch. I,m pretty sure this was the central issue in whichever committee it was that examined the crash, and their conclusion was a resounding YES. Jet fuel does burn hot enough to melt steel.
Now if you want to visit any foundry in the world, you will be amazed that steel beams for bridges, lawn cutting sheers, auto bodies, steel mesh, and millions of other items that surround you (just open your eyes) are not GROWN out of the ground. They ARE formed out of melted steel
Structural steel doesn't melt until 3300-3500 and doesn't even weaken untill 2700. Jet fuel (kerosene)burns at 1500 and when aerosolized at 1700. You could leave steel in a lake of kerosene buring at 2000 degrees for 20 years and it would not weaken. Not to mention the 2000 degree pools of molten iron under the towers that burned for weeks. Think jet fuel can cause that?
I'm not big on the conspiracy theories but I like the fact you did some research. As soon as the guy said steel is burnt with dragon breath and pixy dust I knew I was not going to get a good answer. I really hate sarcasm. It's nice when people are professional and rely on fact.
You can make steel pliable just by heating it. And if there is high sulfur content in the metal, not only will if bend but it will snap in half- ala the Titanic. You folks really need some common sense. Fat housewives are not how you go about learning to weld you monkeys.
It does make one wonder if the Bushies knew something. After all, that's what their doctorine called for (PNAC) - a catalyst "like Pearl Harbor" to initiate their program. Bush did sit in that class room unconcerned...hmmmm...I never thought of that before.
Read the whole quote that was mined from. The quote has to do with developing information technology. Watch "Screw Loose Change" to get both sides of that story. "Loose Change" is hardly a documentary.
Screw Loose Change is straw man lies. I have a question for you, what did Larry Silverstein mean when he said about WTC7 "We decided to pull it"? What else could he have meant? He admitted they demolished it, no debate about it. Why did NORAD wait 1 hour 45 minutes to scramble jets, when 168 times in 2000 they scrambled jets 20 minutes after losing contact with the pilot? How did 2 hijacker passports get found at the base of the Tower?
Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800°F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires.
What just happened in California? They said the Bay bridge fell due to fire...... or was it a government conspiracy? Remeber, it does not take steel to turn to liquid to cause it to no longer support....
i would have to agree with the assesment that 1800°F where not hot enough to melt steel is plenty hot enough to compromise the structural integrity of steel.
There has been hotter fires that burned for 24 hours and the building didn't fall. Watch Loose Change and give it a Chance. 9/11 Mysteries is a better film also. Give them a try.
Firefighters struggled for nearly 24 hours before controlling one of Madrid's worst blazes, which reduced a 32-story office building to a blackened hulk of twisted wreckage.
Thick smoke and temperatures up to nearly 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit prevented firefighters from entering the Windsor building until late Sunday. Though badly damaged, the tower didn't collapse.
yeah, i still don't buy it though, sorry! i have to wonder if the building in madrid had several tons of airplane crash into it too? and if it had, would the building have pancaked then?
The WTC towers were underwriten by UL to withstand multipul airplane crashes and fires. Let me ask you, why was FEMA and Norad running drills the same day of the senario of the WTC being hit with Hijacked jets? Why where there put options placed on American Airlines? What did silverstein mean when he said they decided to "pull" the building? Coincidences?
Rosie's right. Fire couldn't possibly have melted the steel in the World Trade Center! And friction couldn't possibly have melted the aluminum in the Space Shuttle Columbia!
matticchio 4 months ago
Of course fire can't melt steel; blast furnaces are a WESTERN LIE!
MCH1984 1 year ago
Rosie you silly stupid bitch. I,m pretty sure this was the central issue in whichever committee it was that examined the crash, and their conclusion was a resounding YES. Jet fuel does burn hot enough to melt steel.
Now if you want to visit any foundry in the world, you will be amazed that steel beams for bridges, lawn cutting sheers, auto bodies, steel mesh, and millions of other items that surround you (just open your eyes) are not GROWN out of the ground. They ARE formed out of melted steel
JunkMan16 2 years ago
What i don't get is if Sara Palin wouldve said that she would been made fun of 8x more then she always was damn liberals...sheeshhh
PivotB3stZ 3 years ago
holy crap "steel for the first time in history was melted by fire" yeah,ok rossie the beams were mined like that...
PivotB3stZ 3 years ago
Rosie just tries to act smart. Fire destroys everything.
SaturnVII 3 years ago 2
no...it was dragon fire and pixie dust... i love that
PivotB3stZ 3 years ago
@PivotB3stZ dickhead
ecotts 1 year ago
@ecotts Wow... You're just about as intelligent as Rosie.
PivotB3stZ 1 year ago
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ecotts 1 year ago
Structural steel doesn't melt until 3300-3500 and doesn't even weaken untill 2700. Jet fuel (kerosene)burns at 1500 and when aerosolized at 1700. You could leave steel in a lake of kerosene buring at 2000 degrees for 20 years and it would not weaken. Not to mention the 2000 degree pools of molten iron under the towers that burned for weeks. Think jet fuel can cause that?
zakcr440 4 years ago
for the first time in history steel was melted by fire-
supersharingan07 4 years ago
I'm not big on the conspiracy theories but I like the fact you did some research. As soon as the guy said steel is burnt with dragon breath and pixy dust I knew I was not going to get a good answer. I really hate sarcasm. It's nice when people are professional and rely on fact.
plutonium93437 4 years ago
You're wrong on the basic facts. Steel weakens around 400 C and loses most of its strength before 600 C.
machalot 3 years ago
Way to go Rosie, FOX calls you names - you big bully! Wow, kids tell your parents and grandparents to turn that cr*p off!
KJamesB 4 years ago
You can make steel pliable just by heating it. And if there is high sulfur content in the metal, not only will if bend but it will snap in half- ala the Titanic. You folks really need some common sense. Fat housewives are not how you go about learning to weld you monkeys.
dankeschone 4 years ago
Steel doesn't have to melt to fail. It loses 50% of it's strength at a much less temperature.
joedavolla 4 years ago
It does make one wonder if the Bushies knew something. After all, that's what their doctorine called for (PNAC) - a catalyst "like Pearl Harbor" to initiate their program. Bush did sit in that class room unconcerned...hmmmm...I never thought of that before.
KJamesB 4 years ago
Read the whole quote that was mined from. The quote has to do with developing information technology. Watch "Screw Loose Change" to get both sides of that story. "Loose Change" is hardly a documentary.
BacklotRebel 4 years ago
Screw Loose Change is straw man lies. I have a question for you, what did Larry Silverstein mean when he said about WTC7 "We decided to pull it"? What else could he have meant? He admitted they demolished it, no debate about it. Why did NORAD wait 1 hour 45 minutes to scramble jets, when 168 times in 2000 they scrambled jets 20 minutes after losing contact with the pilot? How did 2 hijacker passports get found at the base of the Tower?
zakcr440 4 years ago
Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700°F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800°F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000°F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires.
jorgerivas13 4 years ago
What just happened in California? They said the Bay bridge fell due to fire...... or was it a government conspiracy? Remeber, it does not take steel to turn to liquid to cause it to no longer support....
nellfonz 4 years ago
Yeah, good comparison nellfonz. The support columns didn't collapse. The concrete & remaining debris was not pulverized into dust.
Let alone that this bridge was built nothing like any of the WTC buildings.
Another bridge just collapsed in Alabama without a fire...
tinyurl*com/ynw4dj
GawdMachine 4 years ago
i would have to agree with the assesment that 1800°F where not hot enough to melt steel is plenty hot enough to compromise the structural integrity of steel.
ahamagi 4 years ago
There has been hotter fires that burned for 24 hours and the building didn't fall. Watch Loose Change and give it a Chance. 9/11 Mysteries is a better film also. Give them a try.
zakcr440 4 years ago
Have you seen Zeitgeist?
ahamagi 4 years ago
Massive Blaze Destroys Madrid High-Rise
LA TIMES | February 14, 2005
Firefighters struggled for nearly 24 hours before controlling one of Madrid's worst blazes, which reduced a 32-story office building to a blackened hulk of twisted wreckage.
Thick smoke and temperatures up to nearly 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit prevented firefighters from entering the Windsor building until late Sunday. Though badly damaged, the tower didn't collapse.
zakcr440 4 years ago
yeah, i still don't buy it though, sorry! i have to wonder if the building in madrid had several tons of airplane crash into it too? and if it had, would the building have pancaked then?
ahamagi 4 years ago
The WTC towers were underwriten by UL to withstand multipul airplane crashes and fires. Let me ask you, why was FEMA and Norad running drills the same day of the senario of the WTC being hit with Hijacked jets? Why where there put options placed on American Airlines? What did silverstein mean when he said they decided to "pull" the building? Coincidences?
zakcr440 4 years ago
Pancake theory has been proven wrong.Just pointing that out =D
PivotB3stZ 3 years ago
@PivotB3stZ By who; this daft wench?
MCH1984 1 year ago