umm i might get into to mma now being i come from a boxers wrestlers background because as pulver said he realized dirty boxing became legal in mma so as i watch an offensive tactic towards pulvers attempt at a takedown i instictivly threw a forearm chi elbow swinging downwards at the same time protecting all exposed areas of my exposed sweet spots pulver can attack from his angle very scary for the opponent recieving this shot im throwing it almost feels as if i would instantly cause death kos
"Dirty boxing" is not something new, it's the original European boxing before the rules were added in the 1800's. There are still people teaching the old style along with "catch as catch can." MMA is not far from the early European fighting but MMA players should learn the roots, it will make you a much more complete fighter.
At the professional level there is not too much difference in terms of skill between one fighter and another, its the fighter with the right mindset and adaptability who wins, plus luck is always a factor.
honestly tho...like look how nervous couture was to get hit by toney...he actually pulled out a low single which bascially no one uses in mma....thats how worried he was of being caught woitha punch...so lets say these two men didnt know anything about each other and they had a confrontation on the street...if couture stood with toney for any amount of time hed be ko'ed.. point is if mma guy doesnt know to imedialtly do a td then he could be in big trouble....neither style would win all the time
doesn't matter as far as the strikes being much better. an mma fighter can block and dodge strikes too plus the ground elements in his advantage.
im not saying that the mma fighter will win every time, but we saw in the early ufcs what happens when a skilled striker takes on a skilled grappler. strikes come through, but the ground is almost inevitable
Yeah...if the other is just going to hug you then it's a good technique...but here we are alking about "dirty boxing"; shitty name if you ask me, so...what stops your opponent of throwing you down? WIth that kind of move your giving away all your advantage...if any.
@thehornypuppy You can incorporate pushing his head down into the punch making the uppercut so much more powerful. Dirty Boxing is where you can strike your opponent and your opponent can not strike you it is clinch based and it is illegal in boxing hence the name. It is insanely effective but very technical so of course the crowd doesn't like it. Not many fighters use it but the ones that do make very great fighters such as Jon Fitch.
@jagexisthedevil I'll look him over. So if it's illegal on a match why bother trying it? If it was a street fight is completely useless because the only advantage this gives; as i see it, is that the other guy is playing inside the rules, so obviously if you were to use this it gives and advantage.
At 6.34 he talks about wrestling as a pause in punching to confuse if you have seen experienced street fighters like football fan firms fighting that is what you see, excellent & realistic.
Boxing plus Jujitsu plus Greco-Roman plus Mauythia = Pankration MMA is bringing martial arts back to the original Roman martial art. One of the best vids on MMA I have seen 5 stars.
anyway, this dude fights at what weight. not many devastating hitters at that weight. slip or angle on his combo and counter with your own and his head snaps the fuck back with all of your weight behind it as you run into a wall. you would see this if you trained classical boxing for a bit.
@Toroballs76 bitch, mouth, ass, rape?!? where the hell is your mind at man? explains alot considering how much time the ufc fighters spend on their backs in missionary position.
anyway, thats why we have weight divisions napoleon. 145 lbs? pfff i rep that shit on curls alone for a warm up and i dont muscle my punches. thats a chicks fightin weight lol . ive got a dog that weighs more than 145 pounds maybe i should put you two in the ring. LOL oh shit lol. ahem um yeah . git
I have taken Brazilian jiu jitsu and did Boxing in 6th grade.
Remember what Royce gracie's dad said. "UFC doesnt have the best fighter in the world, they have the best fighter under the rules of their organization, not the best FIGHTER." You cant knee to the groin/kick, eye gouge, and head butt. Head butting is great while used on the ground. Someone like lee murray would prolly fuck up anyone on the street in a REAL fight
@Tsaunders1307 you realize you cant do any of that in mma... mma is just like ufc but ufc they are just more popular... and they have a cage not a ring
I guess a bare knuckle fight would be acceptable, I have seen those. But watch any ufc fight, one knee or kick to the groin and they are down like a pancake
Fighting without rules is completely barbaric not to mention kicking someone in the groin or gouging their eyes out are techniques that should only be used when defending your life. MMA IS fighting it IS NOT completely trying your hardest to kill the other person.
But most fans including Joe Rogan say mma is "Fighting" when its clearly not. In a real fight the only rule is there are no rules. UFC has too many rules, in the early days, yes that was fighting but it it is not anymore. MMA is NOT real fighting, it is however the closest we have to actual fighting. I enjoy it
You boxing vs mma kids think about it like this. Say you had two identical houses with 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom and a kitchen. If you were given 3 hours to clean that house, compared to someone else who had 3 hours to clean just 1 bed room, the person who had to clean only the bedroom would have the more tidy looking room of the two. To compare a mixed martial artists striking to a boxers is idiotic, because a boxer spends most of his training striking while mma consists of various fighting styles
Where in my post did I compare the two? I actually said, if you read my post, that comparing the two would be idiotic. Apples to oranges would be a boxing vs BJJ arguement, or a wrestling vs karate arguement. The boxing vs MMA arguement is more along the lines of comparing apples to fruit baskets.
lol, I was going to reply with an actual comment, but I decided to check your profile instead...after seeing the comments other people left you there, I nolonger feel a reply to you is worth the pointless back and forth youtube comment box bickering that would follow. Have a great day!
Exactly, and thanks! The boxing vs MMA arguements are dumb. Where I'm from, when we don't like things we get as far away from it as possible. No clue why those who hate MMA post on all the MMA videos and those who hate boxing post on all of the boxing ones. A desperate cry for attention perhaps?
@Kiddmizfit Dont forget the body will physically differ between the two types of fighters too, different muscle buildup, limb reaction, endurance, flexibility, ect... not just the knowledge aspect
@Kiddmizfit true...but i think mma guys could be better. thing is so many come from wrestling..so they have done zero striking until they are in their 20's...of course you see guys like BJ penn...who is basically almost as good as a elite boxer.
@Kiddmizfit dude here's an another good analogy. boxer vs an mma fighter is like a Tiger vs a Shark. If the tiger goes into the ocean to fight the shark, the Tiger drowns, if the Shark comes on land to fight the tiger, the Shark dies. It depends on who can make the fight their fight. I sparred with my mma buddy, if he took me down, I lost easy, but when I stayed away and jabed, and hooked straight up he got beat bad, knocked him down twice.
@Lyingaboutmyage wrong again. My friend tried that. The trick is just to sorta of clinch him back and bring you so close that he can get the proper distance or leverage to get you. ANd I also hooked him back and liver punched him. He got hurt, but I wasnt unbruised either
Well, I would (in a fight) use the muay thai clinch and try to land knees. I can imagine that if someone is trying to punch you in the liver from that position you could always try to get underhooks and pin them against the cage/ropes.
That said, I've never really sparred with someone who isn't primarily a grappler or wrestler, and I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert.
@Lyingaboutmyage Well I admit MMA guys are good. But they have the WORST balance I have seen. My bud was pretty damn good though. If it were no holds barr, the MMA fighter isnt as invincible as you would think. Several times I could've rabbit punched my friend in the back of the head. But in a ruled sport contest MMA has the advantage. But to be fair, I wrestled in high school and knew how to sprawl. It really depends I think a lot of it depends on the skill. MMA guys dont focus on one skill
To be fair, MMA fighters have to worry about a takedown, so they can't stand the same way as a boxer. Your wrestling experience is a huge advantage in mma.
@Lyingaboutmyage they foucs on MANY. Thet's well rounded, but there is no specialiation. so t the many skills are at best second rate, or at worst downright mediocre. Boxing however is more uniform and focuses on a very select basic skills. And also remmeber boxing is actually closer to streetfights than MMA if you look at the histroy like the champs Gentlemin Jim and John L Sullivan. But this is all my personal experiences from what I've learned and what I've personally expereimented with.
You don't account for the fact that a LOT of people in combat sports don't actually know self defense. Clinching when a guy is trying to stab you is stupid, but you would be surprised how many fighters would do it.
Think about it this way. If someone drops you down in the street, you need to know how to get up and get up quickly (or you might get your head stomped in). It's harder to protect yourself on the street with boxing cause you won't have those big gloves to protect you.
And in a street fight, a kick to the balls is the most deadly technique. MMA will teach you to protect against kicks in some way.
Not to mention that if you elbow someone and cut them, avoid further confrontation (psychologically, bleeding can fuck you up).
MMA guys should learn how to box. GSP and AS know how to box, but if you used traditional boxing in an MMA cage, you would get killed. You can't put weight on the legs or bob and weave (b/c of the small gloves and leg kicks).
@Lyingaboutmyage and yeah, true MMA fighters beat boxers in the octagon, but in the ring and MMA guy is bait to a boxer. Yes, sports and street fights are different. But hey lots of boxers are people have expereince street fighting. Jack Dempsey fought in saloons when he was 15. and Roberto Druan grew up in the streets of Panama, and was once assaulted at age 13 by 6 adults. He knocked out 5 of them, when the 6th stabbed him and ran. Duran actually says he's a better street figher than a boxer
@Kiddmizfit Well it's not a debate on whose the better tech on striking it is who will win and MMA of course will always win. Boxers will always have more crisp striking but if they came to strike in MMA it wouldn't work with the difference in stance
@jamiegee123 Even so, there is a huge gap between conventional boxing and mma boxing. The best boxers that ever lived trained since the average age of 6 or 8 yrs old, won Olympic gold medals with 200+ amateur bouts, plus 10 to 20 yrs of pro boxing. Kiddmizfit's analogy of the two sports is pretty accurate.
@executioner67 yeah man i love mma and train mma but theres too many wannabe mma boxers out there that before they realise that they should be taking the boxer down theyl be getting ko'ed ! im talking about on the street of course :)! but yeah mma does own legit boxers!
@Kiddmizfit man ive been saying the exact same thing since i started watching mma. i watch boxing as well i like watching it all seperate and all together. glad at least 52 people in this world understand this
I met Jens in Vegas last year. (By 'met' I mean I recognized him coming into the Hard Rock as I was leaving). I told him I thought he was a class act. He seemed like a really nice guy.
I really like bj penn when hes not talking about a fight... like if he's just going through techniques or talking about past fights. I think hes one of those guys that cant like a guy hes guna fight otherwise he wont fight him well lol
Pulver's pretty good... I found out about a year ago that he's my second cousin. Can't wait to be able to meet him when he comes into Seattle someday.
aaah chingado?? LiL EviL e La chingada hahahaha. what eva man. Ill knock your pinche white ass out esse cause im a crazy ass vato loco world extreme cholo!!
what are you talking about Mexitor? what do you mean cholos cant fight? you saw your dad in American Me, He was fighting for his life during the toothpaste scene.
Thanks Jens I'd love to come to the states and be a training partner for dirty boxing in your next fight. I have 7 amateur tiles and am about your weight. Let me know if you need someone to beat up on.
in boxe there is no such thing as take down, teach him mma techniques as well and them send them to fight by mma rules would the boxer really loose??? fighting with your fist is very dificult if you have to worry about getting you down with submission, you can agree that right now the techniques that most fighter use are boxe punches to fight and muaythai kicks to fight stand up and submission to fight in the ground, now put a mma fighter to fight box and see what happens.
I agree with Justin, if a boxer and a mma fighter squared off the mma fighter would win. Not only do they know how to maintain a stand-up fight, they know how to bring it to the ground which could easily end a boxers game. Maybe the boxer can strike better, but how can they strike when their legs are taken out?
Thats probably true, but you must admit that boxing is a vital component in mixed martial arts. "Either way, I'm gonna be dirty about it." Jens rules.
true. boxers are definitly quick and heavy handed but thats it. no knowledge of the thai clinch, singles and doubles, kicks, elbows, and of course jits.
in mma rules an mma fighter would win. a full 100% against a boxer. a boxer fighting an mma fighter would have the advantage but it doesnt guarantee a win coz mma fighters do also know how to box. in fact mma fighters have more power, maybe not more speed but almost as fast as a boxer and an mma fighter has better leg movement.
but in mma rounds. it last 5 mins. thats in the ufc . in prideFC it last 10 min. thats almost two rounds in boxing which last only 3 minutes and when you think about it mma fighters have better conditiioning coz they just dont bob and weave like boxers do. they sprawl ,clinch,throw and do takedowns which require lots and lots of energy compared to bobbing and weaving .not to mention their stance . they have wider stances which require more energy to move from that type of stance.
it's really a different sport, but boxing skills would still be effective on an mma fight, just like rampage jackson, he always bob and weave, then punch, that's how he knocked silva recently
They train with boxers man. Ex pro marques of queensberry rules boxers. Of course it's the same. They just don't have time to really get their boxing down to a reactionary science like full time boxers do.
my point was just stating that mma fighters punching sucks, i boxed for two years and ive been doin mma since jan and im sticking with it ,so its not a bias opinion
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man ppl its the ufc it is pretty much a street fight you idiots there jus as much as boxers as boxers are but more advanced i hate when ppl tell me man your a mma bitch your actually weak but itsfully funny everyone that has said that and got an ass whoopin for the simple fact that ppl get into this shit cause there tired of street fighting. why street fight for fun or to try to prove your a punk when you can get paid to kick ass!
bitch are you fuckin retarded go ahead and try to throw your dum ass hook and see a str8 left hand knock you out dont talk about what you dont know about because YOU ARE NOT A FIGHTER so fuckin deal with it BITCH!
Are you kidding? This guy would take your head off man. He's dangerous. He's got the chops and he's smart. Street fighters have hard heads for sure, but man with smarts and chops like Jens he's put you away in very little time. His stand up skills are good, but he'd get you in a clinch and dump you on your noodle and fight over.
Don't let a shitty band enter in your gym..NEVER
diabolored 1 month ago
But can it touch a shaolin?...
darthclone7 2 months ago
shitty lead guitar
toejam498 3 months ago
What shitty ass music, fucking horrible band.
joeyisfunny 5 months ago 2
tito ortiz? hahhaa
brunodabeast1 6 months ago
umm i might get into to mma now being i come from a boxers wrestlers background because as pulver said he realized dirty boxing became legal in mma so as i watch an offensive tactic towards pulvers attempt at a takedown i instictivly threw a forearm chi elbow swinging downwards at the same time protecting all exposed areas of my exposed sweet spots pulver can attack from his angle very scary for the opponent recieving this shot im throwing it almost feels as if i would instantly cause death kos
dru713281 6 months ago
6:50 he made that shit look 2 easy.
fuzzywabbit20 6 months ago
This was a great demonstration man.
MrFrument 7 months ago
6:47 Wish he showed that with more detail, that's a nice move
OctagonBiTcH 7 months ago 4
great styloo...i got more..check out my channel
minasz 9 months ago
"Dirty boxing" is not something new, it's the original European boxing before the rules were added in the 1800's. There are still people teaching the old style along with "catch as catch can." MMA is not far from the early European fighting but MMA players should learn the roots, it will make you a much more complete fighter.
TheEidolon7 9 months ago
At the professional level there is not too much difference in terms of skill between one fighter and another, its the fighter with the right mindset and adaptability who wins, plus luck is always a factor.
AGKK44 9 months ago
That shit works on the street fo sho
pondmaker 1 year ago
tony got owned by cung le and anderson. pulver got destroyed by bj penn.
Xytos 1 year ago
honestly tho...like look how nervous couture was to get hit by toney...he actually pulled out a low single which bascially no one uses in mma....thats how worried he was of being caught woitha punch...so lets say these two men didnt know anything about each other and they had a confrontation on the street...if couture stood with toney for any amount of time hed be ko'ed.. point is if mma guy doesnt know to imedialtly do a td then he could be in big trouble....neither style would win all the time
aftercarecarez 1 year ago
doesn't matter as far as the strikes being much better. an mma fighter can block and dodge strikes too plus the ground elements in his advantage.
im not saying that the mma fighter will win every time, but we saw in the early ufcs what happens when a skilled striker takes on a skilled grappler. strikes come through, but the ground is almost inevitable
i will take the knowledge of both if anything
TruNikkaz 1 year ago
@TruNikkaz No you're on dude MMA will always win no ground game vs ground if all you are good at is standing I will sweep you and done deal
BlessTha40oz 1 year ago
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TruNikkaz 1 year ago
@BlessTha40oz
idk what you are trying to say
i was saying the ground game is important and you basically said "no way dude, ill take you to the ground"
TruNikkaz 1 year ago 2
@TruNikkaz
You can't really compare. The size of the gloves makes a huge difference.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage
i wasn't trying to compare, it was a response to an earlier post
it's true than an mma fighter can't stand and fight with a pro boxer, but they can most certainly take them to the ground, then they're Fucked
TruNikkaz 1 year ago
reminds me of the marky mark workout video
all mouth no pants
AweirdSmell 1 year ago
Jens is an awesome guy, met him last weekend
Shaunmccall101 1 year ago
AS SAID BITE DOWN AND POWER STEP INTO THE FRAY!!!!
EVERY THIS IS WELL SAID IN CLEAR ENGLISH .ALL IDEAS ARE EXPLAINED OUT RIGHT .
THIS IS ADVANCED MUAY THAI AND COMES FROM GRECO ROMAN STAND UP WRESTLING ..
THIS SHOULD BE MANDATORY STUDY FOR ALL MUAY THAI FIGHTERS!!
IS IT TOO HARD TO ACCEPT A WRESTLER TEACHING MUAY THAI CONCEPTS??YES THIS IS MUAY THAI..
EVERY THAI FIGHTER SHOULD LEARN THESE TECHNIQUES !!
FUSSYMUAYTHAI 1 year ago
awesome band at the back haha
TriggerHappyD 1 year ago
Yeah MMA techniks ^^ UFC! UCF! UFC!
zuckini007 1 year ago
diarrhea of the mouth when he teaches... good stuff though!
PhilipJBrennan1 1 year ago
stop dribbling and get on with it!!!!!
pjmarlo 1 year ago
Tim so y did u bother fighting with him??Y dont u just use a knife to stick him...
AtwoodCooper123 1 year ago
i wish i had a boxing ring with a rockband on it
westbrookfan2 1 year ago 2
remember when jens got choked out by bj penn
garynotrashcougar 1 year ago
Yeah...if the other is just going to hug you then it's a good technique...but here we are alking about "dirty boxing"; shitty name if you ask me, so...what stops your opponent of throwing you down? WIth that kind of move your giving away all your advantage...if any.
thehornypuppy 1 year ago
@thehornypuppy You can incorporate pushing his head down into the punch making the uppercut so much more powerful. Dirty Boxing is where you can strike your opponent and your opponent can not strike you it is clinch based and it is illegal in boxing hence the name. It is insanely effective but very technical so of course the crowd doesn't like it. Not many fighters use it but the ones that do make very great fighters such as Jon Fitch.
jagexisthedevil 1 year ago
@jagexisthedevil I'll look him over. So if it's illegal on a match why bother trying it? If it was a street fight is completely useless because the only advantage this gives; as i see it, is that the other guy is playing inside the rules, so obviously if you were to use this it gives and advantage.
But then again...i'm a big fan of box anyways.
thehornypuppy 1 year ago
@jagexisthedevil you also forgot Randy Couture-- he's another fighter that's notorous for using the Dirty Boxing to his advantage in the cage. :)
ReyMK3 1 year ago
nice
GioAndrei 1 year ago
At 6.34 he talks about wrestling as a pause in punching to confuse if you have seen experienced street fighters like football fan firms fighting that is what you see, excellent & realistic.
Boxing plus Jujitsu plus Greco-Roman plus Mauythia = Pankration MMA is bringing martial arts back to the original Roman martial art. One of the best vids on MMA I have seen 5 stars.
infokemp 1 year ago
pretty ill
gambino617 1 year ago
Sometimes you have to bite down, tuck your chin and go in swinging, that's true for all of life
linkerdrich 2 years ago 41
@linkerdrich True dat.
fuzzywabbit20 6 months ago
@linkerdrich you must look like shit.
anyway, this dude fights at what weight. not many devastating hitters at that weight. slip or angle on his combo and counter with your own and his head snaps the fuck back with all of your weight behind it as you run into a wall. you would see this if you trained classical boxing for a bit.
opticannon 3 months ago
@opticannon You are a stupid bitch. Size has very little to do with power. Jens would rape u, I fight at 145 and I'd embarrass your mouthy ass...
Toroballs76 1 month ago
@Toroballs76 bitch, mouth, ass, rape?!? where the hell is your mind at man? explains alot considering how much time the ufc fighters spend on their backs in missionary position.
anyway, thats why we have weight divisions napoleon. 145 lbs? pfff i rep that shit on curls alone for a warm up and i dont muscle my punches. thats a chicks fightin weight lol . ive got a dog that weighs more than 145 pounds maybe i should put you two in the ring. LOL oh shit lol. ahem um yeah . git
opticannon 1 month ago
Jens is really explaining the "why" behind dirty boxing really well.
slashd 2 years ago 2
Haha, I love the band playing in the background while they are practicing. It's makes it way more fun to watch
slashd 2 years ago 2
Too bad MMA isnt REAL fighting
Tsaunders1307 2 years ago
@Tsaunders1307 your retarded arnt you?
ok if its not real get in the cage and get your ass beat
go4hydro 2 years ago
Hold up,
I have taken Brazilian jiu jitsu and did Boxing in 6th grade.
Remember what Royce gracie's dad said. "UFC doesnt have the best fighter in the world, they have the best fighter under the rules of their organization, not the best FIGHTER." You cant knee to the groin/kick, eye gouge, and head butt. Head butting is great while used on the ground. Someone like lee murray would prolly fuck up anyone on the street in a REAL fight
Tsaunders1307 2 years ago
@Tsaunders1307 you realize you cant do any of that in mma... mma is just like ufc but ufc they are just more popular... and they have a cage not a ring
go4hydro 2 years ago
@go4hydro
I guess a bare knuckle fight would be acceptable, I have seen those. But watch any ufc fight, one knee or kick to the groin and they are down like a pancake
Tsaunders1307 2 years ago
@Tsaunders1307
Are you some kind of retard?
domokunAA 2 years ago
@domokunAA
Is royce gracies dad retarded? Thats exactly what he said. Are you saying you know more than him? I believe you sir, are the retard
Tsaunders1307 2 years ago
@Tsaunders1307
Fighting without rules is completely barbaric not to mention kicking someone in the groin or gouging their eyes out are techniques that should only be used when defending your life. MMA IS fighting it IS NOT completely trying your hardest to kill the other person.
domokunAA 2 years ago
But most fans including Joe Rogan say mma is "Fighting" when its clearly not. In a real fight the only rule is there are no rules. UFC has too many rules, in the early days, yes that was fighting but it it is not anymore. MMA is NOT real fighting, it is however the closest we have to actual fighting. I enjoy it
Tsaunders1307 2 years ago
@domokunAA dude if someone is alot bigger then me and beating my ass i will not mind biting them or gouging their eyes
timstramadal 2 years ago
I lol'd at the band in the background. jens pulver is awesome
maxbigwood 2 years ago 3
wassup with the crappy band??
Nhia89 2 years ago
You boxing vs mma kids think about it like this. Say you had two identical houses with 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom and a kitchen. If you were given 3 hours to clean that house, compared to someone else who had 3 hours to clean just 1 bed room, the person who had to clean only the bedroom would have the more tidy looking room of the two. To compare a mixed martial artists striking to a boxers is idiotic, because a boxer spends most of his training striking while mma consists of various fighting styles
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago 59
@Kiddmizfit you're still comparing apples to oranges because you go from concentrating on strikes to mentioning grappling.......
hwaycasie30728 2 years ago
Where in my post did I compare the two? I actually said, if you read my post, that comparing the two would be idiotic. Apples to oranges would be a boxing vs BJJ arguement, or a wrestling vs karate arguement. The boxing vs MMA arguement is more along the lines of comparing apples to fruit baskets.
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago
I meant with your house theory,nit witt
hwaycasie30728 2 years ago
@hwaycasie30728,
lol, I was going to reply with an actual comment, but I decided to check your profile instead...after seeing the comments other people left you there, I nolonger feel a reply to you is worth the pointless back and forth youtube comment box bickering that would follow. Have a great day!
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago
I have never, ever heard or read a better example of a comparison between MMA and Boxing...
I love both sports for what they are, I enjoy both very much...
EPIC WIN!
ziyaze 2 years ago 2
@ziyaze,
Exactly, and thanks! The boxing vs MMA arguements are dumb. Where I'm from, when we don't like things we get as far away from it as possible. No clue why those who hate MMA post on all the MMA videos and those who hate boxing post on all of the boxing ones. A desperate cry for attention perhaps?
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago
Yeah, but the "boxer" house would have a completely unnaceptable bathroom, kitchen, and living room :P
chiconspiricy 2 years ago
@Kiddmizfit Dont forget the body will physically differ between the two types of fighters too, different muscle buildup, limb reaction, endurance, flexibility, ect... not just the knowledge aspect
macdaddylives 1 year ago
@Kiddmizfit true...but i think mma guys could be better. thing is so many come from wrestling..so they have done zero striking until they are in their 20's...of course you see guys like BJ penn...who is basically almost as good as a elite boxer.
gqmighty 1 year ago
@Kiddmizfit dude here's an another good analogy. boxer vs an mma fighter is like a Tiger vs a Shark. If the tiger goes into the ocean to fight the shark, the Tiger drowns, if the Shark comes on land to fight the tiger, the Shark dies. It depends on who can make the fight their fight. I sparred with my mma buddy, if he took me down, I lost easy, but when I stayed away and jabed, and hooked straight up he got beat bad, knocked him down twice.
POTATER1228 1 year ago
@POTATER1228
An MMA fighter doesn't have to take a boxer down though. He can chose to get him in a clinch and deliver some elbows and kick like a madman.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage wrong again. My friend tried that. The trick is just to sorta of clinch him back and bring you so close that he can get the proper distance or leverage to get you. ANd I also hooked him back and liver punched him. He got hurt, but I wasnt unbruised either
POTATER1228 1 year ago
@POTATER1228
Well, I would (in a fight) use the muay thai clinch and try to land knees. I can imagine that if someone is trying to punch you in the liver from that position you could always try to get underhooks and pin them against the cage/ropes.
That said, I've never really sparred with someone who isn't primarily a grappler or wrestler, and I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage
but judging by your posts you already knew that
TruNikkaz 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage Well I admit MMA guys are good. But they have the WORST balance I have seen. My bud was pretty damn good though. If it were no holds barr, the MMA fighter isnt as invincible as you would think. Several times I could've rabbit punched my friend in the back of the head. But in a ruled sport contest MMA has the advantage. But to be fair, I wrestled in high school and knew how to sprawl. It really depends I think a lot of it depends on the skill. MMA guys dont focus on one skill
POTATER1228 1 year ago
@POTATER1228
To be fair, MMA fighters have to worry about a takedown, so they can't stand the same way as a boxer. Your wrestling experience is a huge advantage in mma.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage they foucs on MANY. Thet's well rounded, but there is no specialiation. so t the many skills are at best second rate, or at worst downright mediocre. Boxing however is more uniform and focuses on a very select basic skills. And also remmeber boxing is actually closer to streetfights than MMA if you look at the histroy like the champs Gentlemin Jim and John L Sullivan. But this is all my personal experiences from what I've learned and what I've personally expereimented with.
POTATER1228 1 year ago
@POTATER1228
You don't account for the fact that a LOT of people in combat sports don't actually know self defense. Clinching when a guy is trying to stab you is stupid, but you would be surprised how many fighters would do it.
Think about it this way. If someone drops you down in the street, you need to know how to get up and get up quickly (or you might get your head stomped in). It's harder to protect yourself on the street with boxing cause you won't have those big gloves to protect you.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@POTATER1228
And in a street fight, a kick to the balls is the most deadly technique. MMA will teach you to protect against kicks in some way.
Not to mention that if you elbow someone and cut them, avoid further confrontation (psychologically, bleeding can fuck you up).
MMA guys should learn how to box. GSP and AS know how to box, but if you used traditional boxing in an MMA cage, you would get killed. You can't put weight on the legs or bob and weave (b/c of the small gloves and leg kicks).
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage and yeah, true MMA fighters beat boxers in the octagon, but in the ring and MMA guy is bait to a boxer. Yes, sports and street fights are different. But hey lots of boxers are people have expereince street fighting. Jack Dempsey fought in saloons when he was 15. and Roberto Druan grew up in the streets of Panama, and was once assaulted at age 13 by 6 adults. He knocked out 5 of them, when the 6th stabbed him and ran. Duran actually says he's a better street figher than a boxer
POTATER1228 1 year ago 3
@Kiddmizfit Well it's not a debate on whose the better tech on striking it is who will win and MMA of course will always win. Boxers will always have more crisp striking but if they came to strike in MMA it wouldn't work with the difference in stance
BlessTha40oz 1 year ago
@Kiddmizfit Great analogy.
I think the whole mma vs boxing issue is just stupid, like comparing golf to cricket - totally different/
DW01 1 year ago
@Kiddmizfit unless your an r-tard and just train like a bitch or if the mma guy hires freedy roach to train them in their boxing .
jamiegee123 1 year ago
@jamiegee123 Even so, there is a huge gap between conventional boxing and mma boxing. The best boxers that ever lived trained since the average age of 6 or 8 yrs old, won Olympic gold medals with 200+ amateur bouts, plus 10 to 20 yrs of pro boxing. Kiddmizfit's analogy of the two sports is pretty accurate.
executioner67 11 months ago
@executioner67 yeah man i love mma and train mma but theres too many wannabe mma boxers out there that before they realise that they should be taking the boxer down theyl be getting ko'ed ! im talking about on the street of course :)! but yeah mma does own legit boxers!
jamiegee123 11 months ago
@Kiddmizfit
But what about if I spend 3 hours cleaning the same room as you have to clean, but then clean the rest of the house afterwards?
Our rooms will both be as tidy, but the rest of my house will be tidy too, yours wont.
SkemeKOS 9 months ago
@Kiddmizfit man ive been saying the exact same thing since i started watching mma. i watch boxing as well i like watching it all seperate and all together. glad at least 52 people in this world understand this
joshuamth8 9 months ago
@Kiddmizfit Good point. Good analogy. However, it fails to consider the law of diminishing returns.
sgt7 9 months ago
@Kiddmizfit and also making wierd videos with elctric guitar and visual effects as well.
pottsy40 7 months ago
this rockband thing in the backround... like... that sucks.. what is the point of that?
snekkevik 2 years ago 2
good video.. THANX..
1band1do 2 years ago
good video, the band just cracked my up though
echo1v 2 years ago
wow horrible band
MIKAEL454 2 years ago 3
5:50 If you do this well.. It'll help you a lot along the way. And who's it that says boxing isn't important?
ws2family 2 years ago
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DIRTY BOX?? does this mean he has a dirty bum hole??
badger09876 2 years ago
~ Very good. An excellent instructor. ~
LibranWarrior 2 years ago 3
tonys the man .. yo and lil evil .
jhop76 2 years ago
lol they look like their dancing
KAKINO0202 2 years ago
dirty dancing
MURKYARE 2 years ago 2
I met Jens in Vegas last year. (By 'met' I mean I recognized him coming into the Hard Rock as I was leaving). I told him I thought he was a class act. He seemed like a really nice guy.
duanedragon2 2 years ago
jens is awesome!
zbdre 2 years ago
you can set it up and work on somethings, he so wanted to knee that dude into next week lol.
EricHx85 2 years ago
that band sucks
gettinguponthe1 2 years ago
i wish jens would have beat bj penn. bj seems like an asshole. jens seems pretty cool
clash715 2 years ago 4
I really like bj penn when hes not talking about a fight... like if he's just going through techniques or talking about past fights. I think hes one of those guys that cant like a guy hes guna fight otherwise he wont fight him well lol
cryingindian 2 years ago
lol this video is way too corny haha the band wasnt necessary
beenutbutter 2 years ago
The band makes it original and more fun to watch :)
slashd 2 years ago
bullshit video
waistedaway 2 years ago 3
hahahahah @ j124life ..talking about the sparring partner lookin like tito ortiz
knuffskillz 2 years ago 2
isnt that the guy who got knocked out by anderson silvas crazy elbow?
SuperCucko 2 years ago
nope
JSwanny1030 2 years ago
One two, one two, come underneath the arm and get your fucken ear eaten off
funnyblood 2 years ago 2
Unless, you know, know the first thing about wrestling and positioning your head...
Kantzarakos 2 years ago
lol yep it is, thats fryklund, he versed silva in a cage rage and recieved that wicked elbow....man i might go search for that vid right now.
fili44 2 years ago
sounds like my elementary school band lmao
Fight2Survive 2 years ago
shitty band. way shitty band but it doesnt matter good video iam glad this is up jens is crazy
spidermaxwell99 2 years ago
Did he purposely try to get someone who kinda look like Tito Ortis from behind to make this video clip with him?
j124life 2 years ago 2
excuse my ignorance, but cant that guy just stick the nut on him?
stevieb8006 2 years ago
THAT BAND SUCKS, OH MY GOD
Carep0Lice 2 years ago 2
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Jenns... I would beat the living fuck out of you.
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
can i have your stuff when he kills you
airborn619 2 years ago
We'll see ninja we'll see... Just give me your number and I will call you if I lose.
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
Jens would kill you
TheQuestion0805 2 years ago 3
Can you prove that?
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
Jens is a former world champ MMA fighter (UFC/WEC) and yeah he would wreck your world so badly your momma wouldn't even love you anymore.
jamesjdm 2 years ago 2
my mother sell's sea shell's by the sea shore and she love's everybody so stfu.
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
LMAO AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i wish my mother did that :(
Fight2Survive 2 years ago 2
Pulver's pretty good... I found out about a year ago that he's my second cousin. Can't wait to be able to meet him when he comes into Seattle someday.
LanceFox 2 years ago
OMG Lance please dont start..... You dont need to lie to kick-it.
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago 2
Lol I'm not trying to "kick-it" :P
LanceFox 2 years ago
interesting technique but model 255...what ever the fuck lets it down
lokallize 2 years ago
aaah chingado?? LiL EviL e La chingada hahahaha. what eva man. Ill knock your pinche white ass out esse cause im a crazy ass vato loco world extreme cholo!!
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
funny cuz cholos can't fight
Mexitor 2 years ago
what are you talking about Mexitor? what do you mean cholos cant fight? you saw your dad in American Me, He was fighting for his life during the toothpaste scene.
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
humm yeah that is a movie lol
Mexitor 2 years ago
lol
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
have you seen mi familia, it's pretty bad ass movie too
Mexitor 2 years ago
wow dirty boxing is cool
chavios 2 years ago
hey chavios ill knock your ass out too esse cause Im a World extreme Cholo esse
WorldExtremeCholo 2 years ago
blud cum 2 plashet rd dwn e.13 plaistow u n all ur mandem wud gt blazed wid 3.8'z pussssssio
snappadandappa7 2 years ago
badass
cerebralnation 2 years ago
band is teh ghey
btw, if anyone in London area wants streetfights plz contact me.
My cru are willing to travel anywere in London area to meet up.
blap brrrrap
StyleSessions 2 years ago
Thanks Jens I'd love to come to the states and be a training partner for dirty boxing in your next fight. I have 7 amateur tiles and am about your weight. Let me know if you need someone to beat up on.
Regards Darren.
19995700 3 years ago
good instructional... band sucks
Chillaaaaxxx 3 years ago
annoying band, great instructional.
Ebbiewantsacookie 3 years ago 5
just ignore the band dude, maybe they just want to get some exposure, the video is all about fighting techniques so just ignore them
23bilog23 2 years ago
jens pulver....is the balls.
JCanmor 3 years ago
in boxe there is no such thing as take down, teach him mma techniques as well and them send them to fight by mma rules would the boxer really loose??? fighting with your fist is very dificult if you have to worry about getting you down with submission, you can agree that right now the techniques that most fighter use are boxe punches to fight and muaythai kicks to fight stand up and submission to fight in the ground, now put a mma fighter to fight box and see what happens.
animejoao 3 years ago
mma fighter would be owned by a boxer if that's the case
23bilog23 2 years ago
hmm I think I'm gonna kill those dudes playing music in the back ............. pulver probably owed their dad a favor or something
futbolking 3 years ago 5
xD good one hahaha
JimmyBones111 3 years ago
hey thanks for the upload
jens is a bad motherfucker
zboy419 3 years ago 2
buakaw k1 2x world champion and anderson silver...are masters at this technique.
muaythai4ko 3 years ago
I agree with Justin, if a boxer and a mma fighter squared off the mma fighter would win. Not only do they know how to maintain a stand-up fight, they know how to bring it to the ground which could easily end a boxers game. Maybe the boxer can strike better, but how can they strike when their legs are taken out?
scguitarist107 3 years ago
Thats probably true, but you must admit that boxing is a vital component in mixed martial arts. "Either way, I'm gonna be dirty about it." Jens rules.
upashurpa 3 years ago 2
true. boxers are definitly quick and heavy handed but thats it. no knowledge of the thai clinch, singles and doubles, kicks, elbows, and of course jits.
Candymand07 3 years ago
an mma fighter would win on an mma rules, but a boxer would also win on a boxing rules, its a different sport
23bilog23 2 years ago 2
in mma rules an mma fighter would win. a full 100% against a boxer. a boxer fighting an mma fighter would have the advantage but it doesnt guarantee a win coz mma fighters do also know how to box. in fact mma fighters have more power, maybe not more speed but almost as fast as a boxer and an mma fighter has better leg movement.
demolayakp 2 years ago
but mma fights doesn't last long like a boxer, maximum of 5 rounds for a title match, boxing usually lasts 10 rounds
23bilog23 2 years ago
but in mma rounds. it last 5 mins. thats in the ufc . in prideFC it last 10 min. thats almost two rounds in boxing which last only 3 minutes and when you think about it mma fighters have better conditiioning coz they just dont bob and weave like boxers do. they sprawl ,clinch,throw and do takedowns which require lots and lots of energy compared to bobbing and weaving .not to mention their stance . they have wider stances which require more energy to move from that type of stance.
demolayakp 2 years ago 3
it's really a different sport, but boxing skills would still be effective on an mma fight, just like rampage jackson, he always bob and weave, then punch, that's how he knocked silva recently
23bilog23 2 years ago
Every mma fighter trains boxing you stupid cocksucker
itsgaythatyourgay 2 years ago
mma's version of boxing isnt boxing
jaycore 2 years ago
They train with boxers man. Ex pro marques of queensberry rules boxers. Of course it's the same. They just don't have time to really get their boxing down to a reactionary science like full time boxers do.
itsgaythatyourgay 2 years ago 4
Thanks, many people doesnt see that!
Couldnt say better myself.
connymat 2 years ago
no fucking shit sherlock, its way more complicated
ultraviolentrays 2 years ago
@jaycore hbo boxing isnt boxing. do your research dumbass
mizdierbeatz 2 years ago
hahahahahaha....do my research thats funny,
my point was just stating that mma fighters punching sucks, i boxed for two years and ive been doin mma since jan and im sticking with it ,so its not a bias opinion
jaycore 2 years ago
boxing is less taxing since it doesnt use kicks/clinch ground, etc. But its comparing apples and oranges
tonyvandemil 2 years ago
that guy hes training with looks lie tito ortiz dont you think
TIMLEEUFC87 3 years ago 7
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man ppl its the ufc it is pretty much a street fight you idiots there jus as much as boxers as boxers are but more advanced i hate when ppl tell me man your a mma bitch your actually weak but itsfully funny everyone that has said that and got an ass whoopin for the simple fact that ppl get into this shit cause there tired of street fighting. why street fight for fun or to try to prove your a punk when you can get paid to kick ass!
justinhayden 3 years ago
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this guy would get his ass fuckin handed to him on a plate in a real street fight....
steppad 3 years ago
call him and offer a street fight) techniques r the same as in pankration so shut up
electronikita 3 years ago 2
bitch are you fuckin retarded go ahead and try to throw your dum ass hook and see a str8 left hand knock you out dont talk about what you dont know about because YOU ARE NOT A FIGHTER so fuckin deal with it BITCH!
doggydoggiscrippin 3 years ago
Are you kidding? This guy would take your head off man. He's dangerous. He's got the chops and he's smart. Street fighters have hard heads for sure, but man with smarts and chops like Jens he's put you away in very little time. His stand up skills are good, but he'd get you in a clinch and dump you on your noodle and fight over.
antjohkev 3 years ago 4
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! theres a fckning band in the ring. brilliant
weedbag22 3 years ago 5
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i think these two r boy friend and boy friend
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piciosa 3 years ago
the band's music doesn't fit this vid.. i think it's better to put some more chaotic band rather than this one.
lightning050704 3 years ago