STAY IN MEXICO! I'm concerned about ME getting health care, not some dumb azz MEXICAN who shouldn't be here in the 1st place! We can't afford the leeching monkeys. These reconquistas wave Mexican flags in the air, shout Spanish & nostalgically wax on about how wonderful Mexico is, how morally superior it is to the US & the same time protest against being sent back to Mexico, that place they say is so great, but left & wouldn't go back if U held a gun to there black heads.
We cannot afford to have so many illegal aliens on welfare and sucking our health systems dry, look at California and parts fo Texas and other south western states, California is facing nearly a 25 bilion dollar deficit this year, look into how much of that is welfare and failing health care systems
Folks! We are involved in a Struggle. It is not the struggle of illegal immigration it is the Struggle of the Working Classes. The Governments and the Zionist Elite Rich no longer need the working class the working class for them now resides in China where they work in two shifts 6 days a week 24 hours a day (Slave Labor) Mexican National and USA labor workers are a liability The Chinese after 3 months of labor can not even buy one strand of Mardi Gras Beads they produced with their own hands.
Social Security says they have $360 bil plus $7 bil per year PAID AND ACCEPTED on fake SS#'s by illegals. They also estimate that to be only 3-10% of the total! SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT ILLEGALS. They work on form W-2, many in unions, paying dues & state, local, and fed income tax, medicare and SS. About 4 mil illegals are homeowners. Who will pay those taxes if we put them in concentration camps? WHO WILL PAY THEIR MORTGAGES WHEN WE DEPORT THEM?
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I'm sorry I can't vote 4 Obama period I don't give a damn what someone tell me I'm black and all but I don't support him he doesn't move me he doesn't speak on issues 2 me all he do is smile 4 the camera and you telling me I need 2 go for him cause he's black cause he's the same color as me KISS MY ASS
Ron Paul never said that illegals were economic scapegoats. I do not appreciate being called "dumb-ass" either, considering I can understand ENGLISH well enough to tell that he never said that. Excuse my ENGLISH, galloMEXICAN, but you sir, are quite a dumb-ass.
I'm the dumb ass? well I gave you two videos where he says it perfectly, how about you fucking look at them. I even gave you the minute he saids it, stop being a retarded bitch and look it you dumb fuck, and yes I'm Mexican I speak two languages
So lets put a wall on the side where the terrorist didnt come from, instead lets leave Canada alone where the terrorist entered the country and where the majority of Middleastern community is located, some of them Illegaly.
well retard There are plenty of Illegals coming by plane what are you gonna do then? you are gonna put a wall planes too, how about by boat? Thousands of Haitians and Cubans swim over a year what you gonna do put a wall on the water, your a fucking joke of a Human.
gallomex13 - "There are plenty of Illegals coming by plane what are you gonna do then? you are gonna put a wall planes too, how about by boat? Thousands of Haitians and Cubans swim over a year what you gonna do put a wall on the water, your a fucking joke of a Human."
Before shooting your fucking mouth off why don't you check out Mexico's immigration laws
gallomex13 - "Who in the fuck is defending the Mexican Laws?" Don't be a fucking moron!!! You defend illegal immigration and then play stupid about immigration laws..Like I said,the US needs to adapt some of Mexico's immigration laws..Illegals need to go to the back of the line and come here legally or not at all
I defend the Immigrants from Racist, I came here legaly and your talking shit to me for deffending the people while I go against the same system you are complaining about Mexican and USA. People who want to feed their families cant be the bad guys, the goverments and laws the fuck the people legal or Illegal, that system is the one to blame that system is calle CAPITALISM the same shit that is destroying USA economicly not the farm workers.
gallomex13 - "People who want to feed their families cant be the bad guys, the goverments and laws the fuck the people legal or Illegal, that system is the one to blame that system is calle CAPITALISM the same shit that is destroying USA economicly not the farm workers." When you come here illegally pal,it is just like cutting the line.I have no fucking problem with immigrants that come here legally
So what would you say to those people who come here legally yet they still buy food with the goverment card ? what would you say to white and black US citizens who also use our tax money specially when they are capable to work.
gallomex13 - 1. I don't approve of giving anything to people that come here legally or illegally. 2. The government is responsible for getting in bed with corporations and shipping all the jobs out of the country,if those jobs stayed here there would be less people on these government handouts.One day these people will realize that in order to have a consumer base buying,they must work and get paid enough to afford it
well gob bless America the "greatest" country in the world......... capitalism at its best. If capitalism and socialism doesn't work, what comes next?
gallomex13 - "well gob bless America the "greatest" country in the world......... capitalism at its best. If capitalism and socialism doesn't work, what comes next?" Well personally I think Mexico should take care of their own poverty problem instead of dumping it into the USA's lap..Maybe if these rich pricks at the top of the scale took more responsibility for the problems they cause this wouldn't even be an issue
I will agree with you the rich pricks need to fix things. But they don't dump it into USA, USA had a need for it in order to keep up with food, factory, and construction demand, CAPITALISM. What I get upset about hypocrisy of a nation who needed this workers before all of the sudden when shit hits the fan they are the ones blamed for the economic problems.
gallomex13 - "What I get upset about hypocrisy of a nation who needed this workers before all of the sudden when shit hits the fan they are the ones blamed for the economic problems." Are you getting the picture right pal?? It is not the American people that want these trade agreements,It's multi-national corporation running our government to exploit the cheapest labor..Why do you think a lot of jobs have left for China?
Welfare makes up 2% of SS expenditures. the rest comes from charities.
TWO percent. That's almost not worth talking about. We don't have a problem with handouts, we have a problem with the working poor. People who DO work but can't make enough money to live.
Most of the illegals pay taxes, work hard and are good people. We're not subsidizing them directly.. its the employers that need to be taken out to the woodshed.
knome - "Most of the illegals pay taxes, work hard and are good people. We're not subsidizing them directly.. its the employers that need to be taken out to the woodshed." THis is total bullshit and exact what I would expect from somebody that is all for illegals coming over the borders... Your agenda is pretty simple( 1. you're and illegals 2.you hire illegals or 3. you own stock in these big corporations..Which one is it buddy?
None of the above, mate. I'm just a working stiff.
Let me set this straight: I am for RIGOROUS enforcement and VERY STIFF fines (if not jail time for repeat offenses) for any employer caught hiring illegals. I am for STRONG border patrols. What I am NOT for is wasting our time trying to deport 12 million people. It's ridiculous to even suggest it. If we deprive them of jobs, and they don't want to register, then they will leave on their own.
knome - "What I am NOT for is wasting our time trying to deport 12 million people. It's ridiculous to even suggest it. If we deprive them of jobs, and they don't want to register, then they will leave on their own." They don't have to deport them all at once,if their arrested,then deport them if their here illegally..pretty simple really
No, it is NOT simple. Eesh. We have 2 million people TOTAL in federal prisons and you're talking about deporting 12 million people? That would cost HUGE amounts of money, we'd have to build interment camps to hold them and double the number of police in the entire country. We'd have to house, feed and care for them until someone figured out where they were from and PROVED it to the destination country's satisfaction. It won't work, mate.
XxoCaliGirloxX - "Duh idiot the terriosts are more likey to cross the canadian border than the Mexican border b/c all the attention is at the southern border!" Then I guess we'll have to secure the Canadian border as well,right pal?
-He's going to save us billions of dollars and create tax cuts by deporting the illegal immigrants, tightening border security, and stopping anchor babies
so i was going through all my old comments and i happened to stumble on to this one... First of all i honestly see no relation between me stating an obvious fact (Ron Paul is racist) to me being an illegal immigrant. So your 'arguement'(i'll call it that to make you feel better) makes absolutely no sense. so feel free to enlighten me. and even if i were an illegal immigrant, that would not mean that i'd be an asshole/racist. that just tells me that you are a narrow minded redneck republican.
Oh and i find it a bit funny that you thought ron paul even had a chance in being elected, idiot. wake the fuck up, america isn't just ruled by the whites anymore.
surfchic168c - Hey asshole!! I'm quite aware who is running this country and it isn't who you think it is...People like you have no fucking clue what's really going on...You think Obama is so fucking great?? you're a fucking IDIOT
haha you seem very dim, racist and ignorant. i feel bad for you. i see you didn't answer any of my questions. were they a bit too complicated for your small mind to comprehend? it's alright i understand you ARE a republican. You sound like the world is ending. BREATHE ya cunt. im guessing youd rather have mccain as president.HAHAHA he is almost as stupid as you.
Oh and i really like how you insult me without anything to back it up with. it's very elementary school of you.
surfchic168c - You're a real example of stupidity you dumb cunt...You're the racist bitch,and by the way I don't like any of the choices,you dumbass pro illegal fuckstick...people like you should stay out of politics (you have no fucking idea what's really going on)
im really curious as to where you got the idea that i was racist...wow you are one ignorant dick. All you do is cuss at me so im pretty sure YOU don't really know shit. seriously can't we speak like civilized adults. its a bit pathetic really.You are sooo fucking retarded,do you really think the U.S should/could just deport the millions of illegals that live here? That's just stupid at its finest.
Since that is not an option, I would like to help those with no criminal record/ have lived here for a certain amount of years. its at least bit more civil don't you think? I know an illegal immigrant who was brought over to the U.S when she was 2 years old. She has lived here for 15 years. she's made a life for herself here. It obvioulsy was not her decision to come here,but the point is that she is here. what do you expect we do with people in that situation? Kick her out just like that?
surfchic168c - "I know an illegal immigrant who was brought over to the U.S when she was 2 years old. She has lived here for 15 years. she's made a life for herself here" I don't and never did support anchor babies..Rewarding illegals by giving them citizenship is a joke lady,believe it or not we cannot afford the cost
surfchic168c - That's right miss I want to take care of the rest of the world,right now most of out manufacturing base is in China where corporations pay a dollar a day in wages,China is buying up US treasury notes and if they cash them in we're going to be fucked...China is financing our debt,so give that money away with the idea we can afford it.News Flash!!! WE CANT
surfchic168c - "im really curious as to where you got the idea that i was racist" Simple really,most illegals and pro illegals scream racism the loudest. "You are sooo fucking retarded" You call this being civilized? Yes I do believe we can deport 12 million,1 illegal at a time
no i am not racist... look it up in the dictionary. if anything im pro unity,how exactly does that scream racsim. i only swore at you because im tired of you calling me stupid racist cunt... so stop being a baby aboutit. Deport them all. yeah lets deport all the illegals, let's not waste time trying to fix the system. They are here illegally so send them back. yeah that'll work...
The imigration debate has no substance. It is a dumb political sideshow that ignores economics. it represents, the ignorance that can be whipped up into some idiotic frenzy that somehow we're supposed to be concernd about for our own good. Its sick, racist, and shows the worst of American Style Democracy...
surfchic168c - "oh and I read books and newspapers and stuff. So my political opinion is moderately well informed..." Like I said,you don't know anymore than what they want you to know..Do you have a clue why NAFTA passed?Do you have a clue why WTO passed?? Do you even know why Mexicans came here illegally??
surfchic168c - So rewarding illegals for breaking our immigration laws is fine with you? Just exactly what do you think would happen if you tried to go into Mexico illegally?Do you even have a clue? By the way the only ones that benefit from this are multi -national corporations and lazy fucks that can't and wont do any labor but want to make more money off slave labor
The policy up until now has been to arrest and deport them. It's a policy that simply doesn't work. We don't have the resources to find and round up a bunch of people and those we do deport often come back. that would cost billions...
It may be a wiser solution to expedite the citizenship process for those already here so that they become tax paying citizens. At this point, it may be better collectively to help solve the problem rather than seek justice.
surfchic168c - Under your solution we might as well get rid of our borders and let everybody in...There's no need to worry about disease control or the such,and it will help the terrorist get here a lot easier.You do know that giving these illegals citizenship does send a message to just keep coming in
lol one at the time,you wile you deport one five more comes in lol,it never is gonna end,you're funny retarded,secure the border make them pay the fine and give citizenship make them pay taxes like all american,and im a immigrant from brazil and im here for two years
Yeah big shot, i was ready to vote to Ron Paul. Do you know that Ron Paul is against birthright citizenship? An innocent child is born here in the USA, but if there is a problem with the legality of the parents, then that child is not an American!
Ron is against it because if a child is made by illegals in the US, then the illegals get amnesty and automatically get free money and basically, citizenship. It is time to stop amnesty and keep illegals out!
Ron Paul also said that most of the time some Illegals are better Americans than Americans theselfs. He also said that Illegals are a "Scapegoat" for the goveremnt to blame most of the economical problems this country has. You can look it up if you like, you dont have to take my word for it.
OBAMA wants to tighten the border in CANADA!!! WHAT IS HE THINKING?!?!?! MEXICO is the problem!! He only likes immigration because his father was african and got into america because of it!! DONT VOTE OBAMA!!!!
me too, f0rt0r! I came from my mom's womb if that's what he means! lol
>>It doesn't sound like Obama really cares about securing our borders. He's just telling these people what they want to hear.<< So did Bush, and look what he did. so, yeah they are all guilty of it.
google or search youtube for 'North American Union' and 'SPP' between the U.S., Canada and Mexico. There will be no more borders, and no 'illegals'.
With any 'problem' you encounter in life its always wise to ask where the problem originates and where the responsibilities lie. In this case, it is illegals that are being allowed to pass and you have to ask yourself why.
It doesn't sound like Obama really cares about securing our borders. He's just telling these people what they want to hear. The guy knows nothing about what is going on here in the Southwest. If illegal immigration is a big issue for you as it is for me, then I suggest you read up on the man who has a six point plan to secure our borders. A man who truely has the best interests of the American people in mind. That man is...
google or search youtube for 'North American Union' and 'SPP' In 2010 there will be no more borders, and no 'illegals'.
With any 'problem' you encounter in life its always wise to ask where the problem originates and where the responsibilities lie. In this case, it is illegals that are being allowed to pass and you have to ask yourself why.
randyest: he supported a massive amnesty, disguising it as a "path to citizenship". That will lead to even more illegal immigration. He also presented the false choice - the same false choice offered by Bush - that we have to choose between that massive amnesty and mass deportations. The choice he didn't acknowledge is simply to start enforcing our laws, encouraging many illegal aliens here now to return to their home countries.
I suggest you check out what McCain has been saying on the same issue. He directly addressed your proposed alternative, saying it's not economically viable to deport them all, so forcing them to pay a large fine and then enter our immigration process is the best solution currently on the table.
Keep in mind Obama's step #1 was to secure our borders so that the problem doesn't continue to get worse.
"False choice" means offering a limited set of alternatives and pretending those are the only choices. That's what Obama does. A choice he doesn't mention is enforcing our current laws, which may not result in deporting all illegal aliens, just a very large number of them including those deported by ICE and those who leave on their own.
He is, in this clip, doing anything but. The whole focus of this clip is Obama stating that either extreme, amnesty or mass deportation, will not work.
What exactly does it mean to "encourage" them to go home? That's the key thing. We all know that the only way to get them home will be to deport them.
I have to say, I'm to the left of Barack, but he's pretty smart on this issue. Now if you could only get the guts to advocate what the country wants: withdrawal from Iraq!
Actually, restricting non-emergency benefits and making it difficult for employers to hire illegal aliens will result in many going home on their own. Mexico can be "encouraged" to welcome them back. And, since Obama says he's going to enforce the laws in the future, he shouldn't have a problem enforcing them now. Right? Er...
he's tap dancing around the important issues like most politicians...if obama or hilary actually got elected it would be the shortest term in history..its amazing how people forget about americas past on assasinations..hope the can duck fast
I like him because he has plans. His solutions aren't always the most glamorous or the easiest, but they seem like they've been thought out and may work. Obama in 2008!
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STAY IN MEXICO! I'm concerned about ME getting health care, not some dumb azz MEXICAN who shouldn't be here in the 1st place! We can't afford the leeching monkeys. These reconquistas wave Mexican flags in the air, shout Spanish & nostalgically wax on about how wonderful Mexico is, how morally superior it is to the US & the same time protest against being sent back to Mexico, that place they say is so great, but left & wouldn't go back if U held a gun to there black heads.
onstageagain 10 months ago
Chuck racism and turn over a new leaf with the people of Mexico, and open your mind to new possibilities. Google "Megamerge Dissolution Solution".
historyscoper 2 years ago
We cannot afford to have so many illegal aliens on welfare and sucking our health systems dry, look at California and parts fo Texas and other south western states, California is facing nearly a 25 bilion dollar deficit this year, look into how much of that is welfare and failing health care systems
panthersno15 2 years ago
White immigratns built this country. That's the end if it.
cleftronix 3 years ago
Apostl06 3 years ago
hes a fucken fag
GoodbyeRS 3 years ago
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FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Social Security says they have $360 bil plus $7 bil per year PAID AND ACCEPTED on fake SS#'s by illegals. They also estimate that to be only 3-10% of the total! SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT ILLEGALS. They work on form W-2, many in unions, paying dues & state, local, and fed income tax, medicare and SS. About 4 mil illegals are homeowners. Who will pay those taxes if we put them in concentration camps? WHO WILL PAY THEIR MORTGAGES WHEN WE DEPORT THEM?
nobodybidness 4 years ago
google 'Freedom's Enemies, Barack Hussein Obama', by Beckwith.
cyberella 4 years ago
Legal or illegal, the end result is the same.
With quotas on European immigration and virtually none with non-white invaders, all
you have to do is take a look around to see
what's happened.
When you cut through the bullshit and get honest, the issue is not one of legality. It
is about race, anyone that denies that is livning in a sheltered bubble or is has their
head in their ass. WPWW
DirtyJew88 4 years ago
And to think, White Americans in IOWA voted for MR. BARACK OBAMA! GO FIGURE, AND WHEN YOU GET THERE, ASK SOMEONE HOW TO GET AN EDUCATION? OBAMA NOW!
Mallbased 4 years ago
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I'm sorry I can't vote 4 Obama period I don't give a damn what someone tell me I'm black and all but I don't support him he doesn't move me he doesn't speak on issues 2 me all he do is smile 4 the camera and you telling me I need 2 go for him cause he's black cause he's the same color as me KISS MY ASS
MalcomAP 4 years ago
VOTE OBAMA 08!!
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!
cuteambros15 4 years ago 4
VOTE OBAMA 08!!
surfchic168c 4 years ago 2
Obama will destroy this country.
gatordog64 4 years ago
No one can be worse than Bush sir!!!!!!!
petermasuen 4 years ago
a muslim can.
obama can.
DON'T VOTE OBAMA!
4theUSA 4 years ago
ron paul never said that
ihurthurt 4 years ago
Here check this Videos out:
"Ron Paul on Immigration & Borders" Min 2:00
"Ron Paul on Border Security & Immigration Reform" Min 1:00
Here is right about securing the border, but hes also right about this two statements.
Illegals are scapegoat for the governments economic problems.
And sometimes some of those Illegals are more American than some Americans.
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 you are a lier.
4theUSA 4 years ago
Well check the videos they don't lie! FACTS is what makes this world go round not stupid accusations of lying! dumb ass!
gallomex13 4 years ago
Ron Paul never said that illegals were economic scapegoats. I do not appreciate being called "dumb-ass" either, considering I can understand ENGLISH well enough to tell that he never said that. Excuse my ENGLISH, galloMEXICAN, but you sir, are quite a dumb-ass.
4theUSA 4 years ago
I'm the dumb ass? well I gave you two videos where he says it perfectly, how about you fucking look at them. I even gave you the minute he saids it, stop being a retarded bitch and look it you dumb fuck, and yes I'm Mexican I speak two languages
Videos:
"Ron Paul on Immigration & Borders" Min 2:00
"Ron Paul on Border Security & Immigration Reform" Min 1:00
gallomex13 4 years ago
but whatever,
RON PAUL 2008!
4theUSA 4 years ago
border security is just as important as keeping illegals out too. That way, we keep terrorists out of our country as well as illegals.
4theUSA 4 years ago
So lets put a wall on the side where the terrorist didnt come from, instead lets leave Canada alone where the terrorist entered the country and where the majority of Middleastern community is located, some of them Illegaly.
gallomex13 4 years ago
hey stupid ass! i said border security! that includes ALL sides, dumby.
4theUSA 4 years ago
well retard There are plenty of Illegals coming by plane what are you gonna do then? you are gonna put a wall planes too, how about by boat? Thousands of Haitians and Cubans swim over a year what you gonna do put a wall on the water, your a fucking joke of a Human.
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - "There are plenty of Illegals coming by plane what are you gonna do then? you are gonna put a wall planes too, how about by boat? Thousands of Haitians and Cubans swim over a year what you gonna do put a wall on the water, your a fucking joke of a Human."
Before shooting your fucking mouth off why don't you check out Mexico's immigration laws
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
Who in the fuck is defending the Mexican Laws?
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - "Who in the fuck is defending the Mexican Laws?" Don't be a fucking moron!!! You defend illegal immigration and then play stupid about immigration laws..Like I said,the US needs to adapt some of Mexico's immigration laws..Illegals need to go to the back of the line and come here legally or not at all
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
I defend the Immigrants from Racist, I came here legaly and your talking shit to me for deffending the people while I go against the same system you are complaining about Mexican and USA. People who want to feed their families cant be the bad guys, the goverments and laws the fuck the people legal or Illegal, that system is the one to blame that system is calle CAPITALISM the same shit that is destroying USA economicly not the farm workers.
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - "People who want to feed their families cant be the bad guys, the goverments and laws the fuck the people legal or Illegal, that system is the one to blame that system is calle CAPITALISM the same shit that is destroying USA economicly not the farm workers." When you come here illegally pal,it is just like cutting the line.I have no fucking problem with immigrants that come here legally
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
So what would you say to those people who come here legally yet they still buy food with the goverment card ? what would you say to white and black US citizens who also use our tax money specially when they are capable to work.
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - 1. I don't approve of giving anything to people that come here legally or illegally. 2. The government is responsible for getting in bed with corporations and shipping all the jobs out of the country,if those jobs stayed here there would be less people on these government handouts.One day these people will realize that in order to have a consumer base buying,they must work and get paid enough to afford it
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
well gob bless America the "greatest" country in the world......... capitalism at its best. If capitalism and socialism doesn't work, what comes next?
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - "well gob bless America the "greatest" country in the world......... capitalism at its best. If capitalism and socialism doesn't work, what comes next?" Well personally I think Mexico should take care of their own poverty problem instead of dumping it into the USA's lap..Maybe if these rich pricks at the top of the scale took more responsibility for the problems they cause this wouldn't even be an issue
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
I will agree with you the rich pricks need to fix things. But they don't dump it into USA, USA had a need for it in order to keep up with food, factory, and construction demand, CAPITALISM. What I get upset about hypocrisy of a nation who needed this workers before all of the sudden when shit hits the fan they are the ones blamed for the economic problems.
gallomex13 4 years ago
gallomex13 - "What I get upset about hypocrisy of a nation who needed this workers before all of the sudden when shit hits the fan they are the ones blamed for the economic problems." Are you getting the picture right pal?? It is not the American people that want these trade agreements,It's multi-national corporation running our government to exploit the cheapest labor..Why do you think a lot of jobs have left for China?
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
Forget China, India has the money making jobs, China is all factory work.
gallomex13 4 years ago
Welfare makes up 2% of SS expenditures. the rest comes from charities.
TWO percent. That's almost not worth talking about. We don't have a problem with handouts, we have a problem with the working poor. People who DO work but can't make enough money to live.
Most of the illegals pay taxes, work hard and are good people. We're not subsidizing them directly.. its the employers that need to be taken out to the woodshed.
knome 4 years ago
knome - "Most of the illegals pay taxes, work hard and are good people. We're not subsidizing them directly.. its the employers that need to be taken out to the woodshed." THis is total bullshit and exact what I would expect from somebody that is all for illegals coming over the borders... Your agenda is pretty simple( 1. you're and illegals 2.you hire illegals or 3. you own stock in these big corporations..Which one is it buddy?
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
None of the above, mate. I'm just a working stiff.
Let me set this straight: I am for RIGOROUS enforcement and VERY STIFF fines (if not jail time for repeat offenses) for any employer caught hiring illegals. I am for STRONG border patrols. What I am NOT for is wasting our time trying to deport 12 million people. It's ridiculous to even suggest it. If we deprive them of jobs, and they don't want to register, then they will leave on their own.
knome 4 years ago
knome - "What I am NOT for is wasting our time trying to deport 12 million people. It's ridiculous to even suggest it. If we deprive them of jobs, and they don't want to register, then they will leave on their own." They don't have to deport them all at once,if their arrested,then deport them if their here illegally..pretty simple really
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
No, it is NOT simple. Eesh. We have 2 million people TOTAL in federal prisons and you're talking about deporting 12 million people? That would cost HUGE amounts of money, we'd have to build interment camps to hold them and double the number of police in the entire country. We'd have to house, feed and care for them until someone figured out where they were from and PROVED it to the destination country's satisfaction. It won't work, mate.
knome 4 years ago
One in 33 of these "good people" are now in prison, compared to 1 in 99 for the rest of us. You must reside in some really remote part of the US.
grubelsucht 3 years ago
"'we all came here from someplace else', wrong. I was born in the US, and have no links to any other country."
yeah, what f0rt0r said.
4theUSA 4 years ago
why NOT to vote for obama:
-He wants to tighten canadian borders but says nothing about mexican borders(the REAL problem)
-He wants to bomb Pakistan which is garunteed to start war(why would he start war with pakistan if he weren't working with iran?!?!?!)
-He wants more immigrants coming in which will make us lose more money to cheap labor and exported american cash
-He smokes(It's a small issue but do you REALLY want to risk having a president with cancer?)(once weed!)
-Ron Paul is better....
4theUSA 4 years ago
ron paul is gay
comocabron 4 years ago
You sir, should keep ur mouth shut! gallomex13 is right ur a dumbass.
papiz37 4 years ago
Duh idiot the terriosts are more likey to cross the canadian border than the Mexican border b/c all the attention is at the southern border!
XxoCaliGirloxX 4 years ago
But it IS easier to blend in on the southern...
harrischrysler 4 years ago
XxoCaliGirloxX - "Duh idiot the terriosts are more likey to cross the canadian border than the Mexican border b/c all the attention is at the southern border!" Then I guess we'll have to secure the Canadian border as well,right pal?
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
Why to vote for Ron Paul:
-He's going to take us out of iraq SAFELY
-He's going to save us billions of dollars and create tax cuts by deporting the illegal immigrants, tightening border security, and stopping anchor babies
-he's going to CUT TAXES
-he's going to CUT TAXES
-Yes, he is going to cut taxes
dustykid8 4 years ago
Ron Paul is a fucking racist
surfchic168c 4 years ago 4
surfchic168c - "Ron Paul is a fucking racist" A comment like that tells me that you're an illegal immigrant...You're the fucking racist,you asshole
pcjunkie54 4 years ago
so i was going through all my old comments and i happened to stumble on to this one... First of all i honestly see no relation between me stating an obvious fact (Ron Paul is racist) to me being an illegal immigrant. So your 'arguement'(i'll call it that to make you feel better) makes absolutely no sense. so feel free to enlighten me. and even if i were an illegal immigrant, that would not mean that i'd be an asshole/racist. that just tells me that you are a narrow minded redneck republican.
surfchic168c 3 years ago
Oh and i find it a bit funny that you thought ron paul even had a chance in being elected, idiot. wake the fuck up, america isn't just ruled by the whites anymore.
BARRACK OBAMA 08'
surfchic168c 3 years ago
surfchic168c - Hey asshole!! I'm quite aware who is running this country and it isn't who you think it is...People like you have no fucking clue what's really going on...You think Obama is so fucking great?? you're a fucking IDIOT
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
haha you seem very dim, racist and ignorant. i feel bad for you. i see you didn't answer any of my questions. were they a bit too complicated for your small mind to comprehend? it's alright i understand you ARE a republican. You sound like the world is ending. BREATHE ya cunt. im guessing youd rather have mccain as president.HAHAHA he is almost as stupid as you.
Oh and i really like how you insult me without anything to back it up with. it's very elementary school of you.
surfchic168c 3 years ago
surfchic168c - You're a real example of stupidity you dumb cunt...You're the racist bitch,and by the way I don't like any of the choices,you dumbass pro illegal fuckstick...people like you should stay out of politics (you have no fucking idea what's really going on)
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
im really curious as to where you got the idea that i was racist...wow you are one ignorant dick. All you do is cuss at me so im pretty sure YOU don't really know shit. seriously can't we speak like civilized adults. its a bit pathetic really.You are sooo fucking retarded,do you really think the U.S should/could just deport the millions of illegals that live here? That's just stupid at its finest.
surfchic168c 3 years ago
Since that is not an option, I would like to help those with no criminal record/ have lived here for a certain amount of years. its at least bit more civil don't you think? I know an illegal immigrant who was brought over to the U.S when she was 2 years old. She has lived here for 15 years. she's made a life for herself here. It obvioulsy was not her decision to come here,but the point is that she is here. what do you expect we do with people in that situation? Kick her out just like that?
surfchic168c 3 years ago
surfchic168c - "I know an illegal immigrant who was brought over to the U.S when she was 2 years old. She has lived here for 15 years. she's made a life for herself here" I don't and never did support anchor babies..Rewarding illegals by giving them citizenship is a joke lady,believe it or not we cannot afford the cost
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
surfchic168c - That's right miss I want to take care of the rest of the world,right now most of out manufacturing base is in China where corporations pay a dollar a day in wages,China is buying up US treasury notes and if they cash them in we're going to be fucked...China is financing our debt,so give that money away with the idea we can afford it.News Flash!!! WE CANT
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
surfchic168c - "im really curious as to where you got the idea that i was racist" Simple really,most illegals and pro illegals scream racism the loudest. "You are sooo fucking retarded" You call this being civilized? Yes I do believe we can deport 12 million,1 illegal at a time
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
no i am not racist... look it up in the dictionary. if anything im pro unity,how exactly does that scream racsim. i only swore at you because im tired of you calling me stupid racist cunt... so stop being a baby aboutit. Deport them all. yeah lets deport all the illegals, let's not waste time trying to fix the system. They are here illegally so send them back. yeah that'll work...
surfchic168c 3 years ago
The imigration debate has no substance. It is a dumb political sideshow that ignores economics. it represents, the ignorance that can be whipped up into some idiotic frenzy that somehow we're supposed to be concernd about for our own good. Its sick, racist, and shows the worst of American Style Democracy...
surfchic168c 3 years ago
oh and I read books and newspapers and stuff. So my political opinion is moderately well informed...
surfchic168c 3 years ago
surfchic168c - "oh and I read books and newspapers and stuff. So my political opinion is moderately well informed..." Like I said,you don't know anymore than what they want you to know..Do you have a clue why NAFTA passed?Do you have a clue why WTO passed?? Do you even know why Mexicans came here illegally??
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
surfchic168c - So rewarding illegals for breaking our immigration laws is fine with you? Just exactly what do you think would happen if you tried to go into Mexico illegally?Do you even have a clue? By the way the only ones that benefit from this are multi -national corporations and lazy fucks that can't and wont do any labor but want to make more money off slave labor
pcjunkie54 3 years ago 2
The policy up until now has been to arrest and deport them. It's a policy that simply doesn't work. We don't have the resources to find and round up a bunch of people and those we do deport often come back. that would cost billions...
It may be a wiser solution to expedite the citizenship process for those already here so that they become tax paying citizens. At this point, it may be better collectively to help solve the problem rather than seek justice.
surfchic168c 3 years ago
surfchic168c - Under your solution we might as well get rid of our borders and let everybody in...There's no need to worry about disease control or the such,and it will help the terrorist get here a lot easier.You do know that giving these illegals citizenship does send a message to just keep coming in
pcjunkie54 3 years ago
lol one at the time,you wile you deport one five more comes in lol,it never is gonna end,you're funny retarded,secure the border make them pay the fine and give citizenship make them pay taxes like all american,and im a immigrant from brazil and im here for two years
fabiano579 3 years ago 2
watch the video called "Ron Paul on Immigration & Borders" and prepare to change your vote to Ron paul!
dustykid8 4 years ago
Yeah big shot, i was ready to vote to Ron Paul. Do you know that Ron Paul is against birthright citizenship? An innocent child is born here in the USA, but if there is a problem with the legality of the parents, then that child is not an American!
fabiodovalle 4 years ago
Ron is against it because if a child is made by illegals in the US, then the illegals get amnesty and automatically get free money and basically, citizenship. It is time to stop amnesty and keep illegals out!
RON PAUL 2008!
4theUSA 4 years ago
Ron Paul also said that most of the time some Illegals are better Americans than Americans theselfs. He also said that Illegals are a "Scapegoat" for the goveremnt to blame most of the economical problems this country has. You can look it up if you like, you dont have to take my word for it.
gallomex13 4 years ago 2
GO BARACK OBAMA! Grant citizen ship to all the hardworkers, all the people that have been here for a long time. Immigrants built America!
Barack Obama 2008
ivangrohl 3 years ago
"we all came here from someplace else", wrong. I was born in the US, and have no links to any other country.
f0rt0r 4 years ago
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OBAMA wants to tighten the border in CANADA!!! WHAT IS HE THINKING?!?!?! MEXICO is the problem!! He only likes immigration because his father was african and got into america because of it!! DONT VOTE OBAMA!!!!
me too, f0rt0r! I came from my mom's womb if that's what he means! lol
dustykid8 4 years ago
So i suppose that you are a native american, aka indian. So, none of you great grandparents came from Europe or somewhere else???
fabiodovalle 4 years ago
yeah, actions that happened hundreds of years ago do not reflect me.
4theUSA 4 years ago
Ron Paul 2008~!
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jgirl76 4 years ago
>>It doesn't sound like Obama really cares about securing our borders. He's just telling these people what they want to hear.<< So did Bush, and look what he did. so, yeah they are all guilty of it.
alexciaramirez05 4 years ago
google or search youtube for 'North American Union' and 'SPP' between the U.S., Canada and Mexico. There will be no more borders, and no 'illegals'.
With any 'problem' you encounter in life its always wise to ask where the problem originates and where the responsibilities lie. In this case, it is illegals that are being allowed to pass and you have to ask yourself why.
Sillyrabt 4 years ago
It doesn't sound like Obama really cares about securing our borders. He's just telling these people what they want to hear. The guy knows nothing about what is going on here in the Southwest. If illegal immigration is a big issue for you as it is for me, then I suggest you read up on the man who has a six point plan to secure our borders. A man who truely has the best interests of the American people in mind. That man is...
Ron Paul
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Ron Paul
Ron Paul
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Ron Paul
sciumdat 4 years ago
google or search youtube for 'North American Union' and 'SPP' In 2010 there will be no more borders, and no 'illegals'.
With any 'problem' you encounter in life its always wise to ask where the problem originates and where the responsibilities lie. In this case, it is illegals that are being allowed to pass and you have to ask yourself why.
Sillyrabt 4 years ago
randyest: he supported a massive amnesty, disguising it as a "path to citizenship". That will lead to even more illegal immigration. He also presented the false choice - the same false choice offered by Bush - that we have to choose between that massive amnesty and mass deportations. The choice he didn't acknowledge is simply to start enforcing our laws, encouraging many illegal aliens here now to return to their home countries.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
I suggest you check out what McCain has been saying on the same issue. He directly addressed your proposed alternative, saying it's not economically viable to deport them all, so forcing them to pay a large fine and then enter our immigration process is the best solution currently on the table.
Keep in mind Obama's step #1 was to secure our borders so that the problem doesn't continue to get worse.
D0minant 4 years ago
"False choice" means offering a limited set of alternatives and pretending those are the only choices. That's what Obama does. A choice he doesn't mention is enforcing our current laws, which may not result in deporting all illegal aliens, just a very large number of them including those deported by ICE and those who leave on their own.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
He is, in this clip, doing anything but. The whole focus of this clip is Obama stating that either extreme, amnesty or mass deportation, will not work.
D0minant 4 years ago
What exactly does it mean to "encourage" them to go home? That's the key thing. We all know that the only way to get them home will be to deport them.
I have to say, I'm to the left of Barack, but he's pretty smart on this issue. Now if you could only get the guts to advocate what the country wants: withdrawal from Iraq!
aghniyya 4 years ago
Actually, restricting non-emergency benefits and making it difficult for employers to hire illegal aliens will result in many going home on their own. Mexico can be "encouraged" to welcome them back. And, since Obama says he's going to enforce the laws in the future, he shouldn't have a problem enforcing them now. Right? Er...
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
he's tap dancing around the important issues like most politicians...if obama or hilary actually got elected it would be the shortest term in history..its amazing how people forget about americas past on assasinations..hope the can duck fast
Illegalsgo2hell 5 years ago
did he actually say anything? does anyone know if he wants to enforce immigration laws, change them, ignore them (as we are now) or what?
randyest 5 years ago
is there something wrong with your speakers/headphones?
papasalas 4 years ago
I like him because he has plans. His solutions aren't always the most glamorous or the easiest, but they seem like they've been thought out and may work. Obama in 2008!
themightylex 5 years ago