Historians and history buffs might like to know that this tune is much older than the words "Lincoln and Liberty." The tune is "Rosin the Beau" and it was already known as an Irish or English folk tune by the time it was published in America in 1838. Some sources credit it with popularity by the time of the American Revolution.
Excellently done! Not only is Ronnie Gilbert's singing fantastic, but the sequence of images chosen to accompany the video is excellent. I am a U.S. history teacher and like to use this video for my students. Great stuff!
@MonarchyOne . . . YOU need to study American history and not just spout opinion. The New England states were the first ones to threaten secession, more than 20 years before the War between the States. When the South seceeded, newspapers across the country screamed "Let them Go!" But three months later, when the Treasury reported a 72% decline in income from tariffs collected in the southern ports, the Federal government declared war.
Lincoln is the later George Washington! George did to the Brits what Lincoln did to the Rebellion......... wear them out, then murdered em! The one regret was the thunder he brought down, had to hit americans. Yet it needed to be done. North America, United Ever Be!
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right – a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Abraham Lincoln, 1848
@MonarchyOne How right you are. Dirtbags are currently riding high, running roughshod over the American People. But the spirit of Lincoln will rise and once again send the ghost of Sherman marching triumphantly "from Atlanta to the sea". This time the facist pigs who survived the first great purging will find there's no where to run and hide. The blood of Natives, the enslaved and the hoodwinked masses of Europe will be avenged.
@MonarchyOne He was talking about revolution you fool.Which is a natural right when you are faced under slavery and oppression.SO in his quote he was really giving more credence to slave uprisings than he was to slaveocrat inspired secession.
@Christian121y Your argument is instantly less credible, as the first thing you did was insult me. Way to go. The South revolted when the North began putting unconstitutional regulations in place. The South was also paying 90% of the taxes in America at the time. This is why the South left the union. Lincoln was not talking about revolution, he was talking about the right to form their own government, without harming another government in a way outside of their rights.
@MonarchyOne Give credible arguments and I won't have to make fun of you for not being credible.Simple as that.If the South really seceded because of economic reasons(COUGH SLAVERY COUGH) then why didn't these idiots just secede YEARS before hand?These must be some pretty inept knuckle dragging southern politicians per your theory.And the last sentence in your post completely contradicts itself.Even Slaveocrats called the war the "Second American revolution".Read up on your own propaganda
@Christian121y A revolution is the overthrowing of a government while a secession is simply leaving and forming a new one. As for these 'knuckle-dragging politicians,' how do you think these things work? You don't just press a button to start a new government. And the harm the North was doing to the South was initially passed off as non-threatening since the South figured they could just hire slaves to make up for the taxes, but that caused tension which piled onto the economic problems.
@MonarchyOne SO not only do you idiots supposedly start a war over federal TARIFFS,your slaveocracy then decides to "make up for it" via the business strategy of OWNING PEOPLE AS PRIVATE PROPERTY.And again sir,the federal government was INDEED OVERTHROWN in many areas of the South,which is exactly why your slaveocrats called your war the "Second American Revolution".
@Christian121y Oh wait... you think I'm a slaveocrat? I'm from the West Coast, lol. And any other family I have is from the Northeast. I do not condone the slave trade in any way, I just don't agree with starting a war to get rid of it. Why is it American was the only country that had a war to get rid of slavery? Heck, the money spent on the war was more than enough to buy back the freedom of the slaves. Also... will you just chill out? I'm laughing my ass of at how pissed off you sound, lol
@MonarchyOne You're rationalizing the taking up of human beings as private property for the express purpose of keeping up one's profit margins.And I wouldn't be angry at totalitarian tendencies like that because......
"Why is it American was the only country that had a war to get rid of slavery?"
Why is that a question I'M BEING asked?Just why did "American" have to go to war to get rid of slavery Mr.David?Mr.Lee?Mr.Jackson?Mr.Forest?This is indeed a valid question.
Woe to the ignorant. Your man is a fake. You can look these up, lincoln only said the things he's famed for to get office. Look up abraham lincoln on blacks and the first link, among the hundreds of others shows that he really didn't care.
Let's sing this song today, July 3 and 4th, to celebrate the defeat of the Southern traitors at Gettysburg and the fall of the traitorous city of Vicksburg and to piss off white trash pea brain traitors like celtic pride whom I hope wind up strapped to a gurney with their veins pumped full of poison because they are traitors to the USA.
everyone who reads this look up the catalapa prison escape song, Im not advertising my viedeo since it isnt mine but it has the same melody and rythem, and its a great old song
It is perhaps an artifact of lost cause romanticism, but this song has past into total obscurity. I have never heard this song until just recently. I am a Lincoln enthusiast. I don't just respect him for his practical success in the war & in emacipation. He is one of our greatest intellects & writers as well. No one in his day understood our Constitution & Founders as he did. Just read his Cooper Union Address, another neglected & obscured work.
@VealParmigiana no knock on bush though, lincoln and washington are on a different pedestal of presidency. lincoln was the one man who stood up to the despotism of the southern plantation owners as a prsident.
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This version is good, but it left out a few verses of the song that I really like:
"They'll find what by felling and mauling, our railmaker statesman can do.
For people everywhere are calling, for Lincoln and Liberty too"
and
"Our David's good sling is unerring. The slavocrat's giant he slew.
Then shout for the freedom preferring. For Lincoln and Liberty too."
TheStapleGunKid 1 month ago
Historians and history buffs might like to know that this tune is much older than the words "Lincoln and Liberty." The tune is "Rosin the Beau" and it was already known as an Irish or English folk tune by the time it was published in America in 1838. Some sources credit it with popularity by the time of the American Revolution.
39maryb 3 months ago
Excellently done! Not only is Ronnie Gilbert's singing fantastic, but the sequence of images chosen to accompany the video is excellent. I am a U.S. history teacher and like to use this video for my students. Great stuff!
921Leahsheart 7 months ago
What a great song and a great lady.Ronnie and Pete are still going strong and just may live forever
jshalom65 7 months ago
@jshalom65 Looks like folk singing keeps people young.lol
allenshepard 3 weeks ago
@MonarchyOne . . . YOU need to study American history and not just spout opinion. The New England states were the first ones to threaten secession, more than 20 years before the War between the States. When the South seceeded, newspapers across the country screamed "Let them Go!" But three months later, when the Treasury reported a 72% decline in income from tariffs collected in the southern ports, the Federal government declared war.
rockyj74426 9 months ago
what a wonderful song! Lincoln, one of the coolest dudes ever, hands down!
philipheubeck 10 months ago
Lincoln is the later George Washington! George did to the Brits what Lincoln did to the Rebellion......... wear them out, then murdered em! The one regret was the thunder he brought down, had to hit americans. Yet it needed to be done. North America, United Ever Be!
Mr19thIndiana 11 months ago 2
love this
SteveonLI 1 year ago
God bless Abe Lincoln - how we need him now. The greatgrandsons of those same siditious vermin have a stranglehold on our Republic once again.
1129abbo829 1 year ago
great lyrics to this incredible song -- my songbook didnt have these verses!! had three or four others
SteveonLI 1 year ago
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right – a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Abraham Lincoln, 1848
Secession is an American right.
MonarchyOne 1 year ago
@MonarchyOne How right you are. Dirtbags are currently riding high, running roughshod over the American People. But the spirit of Lincoln will rise and once again send the ghost of Sherman marching triumphantly "from Atlanta to the sea". This time the facist pigs who survived the first great purging will find there's no where to run and hide. The blood of Natives, the enslaved and the hoodwinked masses of Europe will be avenged.
1129abbo829 1 year ago
@MonarchyOne He was talking about revolution you fool.Which is a natural right when you are faced under slavery and oppression.SO in his quote he was really giving more credence to slave uprisings than he was to slaveocrat inspired secession.
Christian121y 11 months ago
@Christian121y Your argument is instantly less credible, as the first thing you did was insult me. Way to go. The South revolted when the North began putting unconstitutional regulations in place. The South was also paying 90% of the taxes in America at the time. This is why the South left the union. Lincoln was not talking about revolution, he was talking about the right to form their own government, without harming another government in a way outside of their rights.
MonarchyOne 11 months ago
@MonarchyOne Give credible arguments and I won't have to make fun of you for not being credible.Simple as that.If the South really seceded because of economic reasons(COUGH SLAVERY COUGH) then why didn't these idiots just secede YEARS before hand?These must be some pretty inept knuckle dragging southern politicians per your theory.And the last sentence in your post completely contradicts itself.Even Slaveocrats called the war the "Second American revolution".Read up on your own propaganda
Christian121y 11 months ago
@Christian121y A revolution is the overthrowing of a government while a secession is simply leaving and forming a new one. As for these 'knuckle-dragging politicians,' how do you think these things work? You don't just press a button to start a new government. And the harm the North was doing to the South was initially passed off as non-threatening since the South figured they could just hire slaves to make up for the taxes, but that caused tension which piled onto the economic problems.
MonarchyOne 11 months ago
@MonarchyOne SO not only do you idiots supposedly start a war over federal TARIFFS,your slaveocracy then decides to "make up for it" via the business strategy of OWNING PEOPLE AS PRIVATE PROPERTY.And again sir,the federal government was INDEED OVERTHROWN in many areas of the South,which is exactly why your slaveocrats called your war the "Second American Revolution".
Christian121y 11 months ago
@Christian121y Oh wait... you think I'm a slaveocrat? I'm from the West Coast, lol. And any other family I have is from the Northeast. I do not condone the slave trade in any way, I just don't agree with starting a war to get rid of it. Why is it American was the only country that had a war to get rid of slavery? Heck, the money spent on the war was more than enough to buy back the freedom of the slaves. Also... will you just chill out? I'm laughing my ass of at how pissed off you sound, lol
MonarchyOne 11 months ago
@MonarchyOne You're rationalizing the taking up of human beings as private property for the express purpose of keeping up one's profit margins.And I wouldn't be angry at totalitarian tendencies like that because......
"Why is it American was the only country that had a war to get rid of slavery?"
Why is that a question I'M BEING asked?Just why did "American" have to go to war to get rid of slavery Mr.David?Mr.Lee?Mr.Jackson?Mr.Forest?This is indeed a valid question.
Christian121y 8 months ago
Woe to the ignorant. Your man is a fake. You can look these up, lincoln only said the things he's famed for to get office. Look up abraham lincoln on blacks and the first link, among the hundreds of others shows that he really didn't care.
TheAmericanNative 1 year ago
@TheAmericanNative Thank you so much, kind sir. Lincoln was no friend of liberty.
MonarchyOne 1 year ago
Ronnie Gilbert is amazing
allenshepard 1 year ago
Ronnie! Wonderful
chautauqua14781 1 year ago
Let's sing this song today, July 3 and 4th, to celebrate the defeat of the Southern traitors at Gettysburg and the fall of the traitorous city of Vicksburg and to piss off white trash pea brain traitors like celtic pride whom I hope wind up strapped to a gurney with their veins pumped full of poison because they are traitors to the USA.
hmldjr 1 year ago 3
better to be an ignorant motherfucker than a WASP cocksucker
hmldjr 1 year ago 2
Twisted.
SouthCountry10 1 year ago
Wonderful!
SockoSimian 1 year ago
everyone who reads this look up the catalapa prison escape song, Im not advertising my viedeo since it isnt mine but it has the same melody and rythem, and its a great old song
washingtonboy09 1 year ago
@washingtonboy09
If you haven't heard "Men of the West" same melody different lyrics you should check it out. That's my favorite lyrics set to this wonderful tune.
topgun1863 1 year ago
saying lincoln is for slaves freedom is like saying obama is for gay's rights
BigSlimJimmy 1 year ago
@BigSlimJimmy - you are SOOOOOOO right, two positions so morally correct, & despised by so-called 'christians' then as now ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Land of the free? Only for those we deem worthy.
chkjns 1 year ago
The lyrics given are incorrect. It says "For all who seek shelter may find it", while the singers sing "That all who seek shelter may find it."
Mirkwoodelves 1 year ago
It is perhaps an artifact of lost cause romanticism, but this song has past into total obscurity. I have never heard this song until just recently. I am a Lincoln enthusiast. I don't just respect him for his practical success in the war & in emacipation. He is one of our greatest intellects & writers as well. No one in his day understood our Constitution & Founders as he did. Just read his Cooper Union Address, another neglected & obscured work.
VictorLepanto 2 years ago 4
You can thank the Confederate fascists for that.
Hurrah?
Christian121y 2 years ago
who's Ms. Ronald? it says "down with the power of the despot wherever ms ronald may be???? what does she say?" at 2:30
mappoprimo 2 years ago
they're saying "his stronghold"
topgun1863 2 years ago
No silly. Not stonghold, struggle.
ubersoxfanjpm 2 years ago
Sorry- Me Wrong. Stronghold.
ubersoxfanjpm 2 years ago
Lyrics online and what I'm hearing point to stronghold. Why would a despot be struggling?
topgun1863 2 years ago
@mappoprimo
"Wherever his stronghold may be"
DarrylXE 2 years ago
@DarrylXE got it, thanx
mappoprimo 2 years ago
Slave owners regularly raped their own slaves, and many then sold their own children from the rapes.
Southern women married to slavers knew it too -- most hated their husbands and felt like slaves themselves.
ItchMyFoot 2 years ago 2
Oh my goodness...My second wonderful find this beautiful Sunday. Nothing more beautiful than Our Flag.
Thank you for these and everything else!
megchristianfan 2 years ago
God save the South. But I like the tune of this song.
aminger1982 2 years ago
lol me too! :D
but yeah, im siding with them too
mappoprimo 2 years ago
down with jeffn davis, the despot in- carnate.
boynamedblue 2 years ago 2
Three cheers for Jeff Davis and our Southern States! Will hang old Abe from a Sour Apple tree... Just a reenactor joking here. good song
Capt51stALA 2 years ago
GREAT! GREAT!!!!!!
grummeper 2 years ago 10
we listen to this all the time in ss. i love it!
roxassora9 2 years ago 2
Far one of the best recordings of the song! One can feel the spirit etc.
LordCornwallis1776 2 years ago 5
fantastic. what's the name of the lady who narrates/sings?
boynamedblue 2 years ago
Ronnie Gilbert. Like so many American Civil War somgs, the melody is from an Irish song - Roisin the bow.
LordCornwallis1776 2 years ago
Our greatest president! He defeated the traitors and freed the slaves.
hmldjr 3 years ago 34
@hmldjr You know what they say..... ignorance is bliss. Well you must be one happy motherfucker
CelticHammer2 1 year ago
@hmldjr I agree, Lincoln was a much better President than George W. Bush, and BO stinks as a President.
VealParmigiana 1 year ago
@VealParmigiana no knock on bush though, lincoln and washington are on a different pedestal of presidency. lincoln was the one man who stood up to the despotism of the southern plantation owners as a prsident.
gobabygo90809 1 year ago
GREAT! I sing this every day and maybe now we can finish Lincoln's work.
hmldjr 3 years ago 2
Terrific. Is that song available in sheet music form? Wonderful performance.
timelord31513 3 years ago
Very nice. I saw this on a TV special years ago, I liked it a lot.
Poejoy 3 years ago 3
thank you for this
let freedom and liberty ring
lior31988 3 years ago 3
Thanks for this guys.
Crazydog7 3 years ago
Spirited version of this song ! Thank you .
Jubilo1 3 years ago 2