Seconds From Disaster S3E6 - Florida Swamp Air Crash - ValuJet Flight 592 - English

[campy9sp]

Folks, the MD-80, if you research it, IS a modified DC-9. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this configuration. A 30 year old aircraft is safe as long as it is maintained; the DC-9 was designed as a short haul aircraft, it's heavily built, designed for the job. As the MD80 and beyond, the proof is in the pudding as it does well as a longer, more powerful bird. As for disparaging 592's flight crew, you should be ashamed. Go back to the sandbox, no more computer for you.

[borichica33mar]

The DC-9 was a Good Reliable Plane (BACK IN IT'S PRIME) We have to remember "Value Jet" was Operating a FLEET of them that were OVER or Close to 30 years Old,With Countless Flight Hours, They're fleet was made up of raggedy assed OLD planes that other Major carriers would SELL OFF (Due to THAT very Reason) & Value-Jet would BUY THEM CHEAP, Operate them CHEAPER, & PUT YOUR LIVES AT RISK for a CHEAP TICKET!...I wouldn't fly "Value-Jet" OR "AIR-TRAN" if They GAVE ME LIFETIME FREE PASS!

[borichica33mar]

When this happend, I lived in Ft.Lauderdale, & would see Value Jets Planes "Parked" at they're assigned spot at the aiport every day. I remember they're Paint job with the "Happy" cartoon plane on the sides. I also remember Value Jet was on the NEW'S every other day for about a MONTH before this disaster, For Operating an UNSAFE FLEET of Ragedy assed aircraft! I remember One incident where Inspectors found ONE Plane with DUCT TAPE holding a WINDSHIELD in Place!...& TODAY they R "AIR TRAN"!!!!!!

[GamleErik100]

At least the passengers were out and didn't have to see the end.

[Bandicoot803]

I wonder if the ground crew might also have contributed to the ValuJet 592 disaster by throwing the COMAT boxes into the plane baggage compartment. This could also have activated one or more oxygen generators when they hit the compartment floor.

[nathanhorsfall1995]

there was nothing any pilot could of done in that situation. it was just sad that the smoke filled the aircraft that fast. only if the smoke had been of a lower density then maybe the pilots could have made an emergency landing.

[vanillabeanduck]

And that's what you get for flying "ValuJet" A company so poor they can't afford an "E" in their brand name. Next time, fly GreatValue Airways or even ShurFine Airlines. The fuselage is composed of your recycled pop cans. Oh, and concerning the woman: kitchen.

[SunnySide2000]

Valujet is changed names to Air Tran

[SB93696]

sabertech=saberdicks

[drewax11]

I hope those valuejet people and maintenance people get whats coming to them

[123arianagrandefan]

wouldn't it be ironic if one of those NTSB Go Team planes crashed?

[luckysod04]

That's why we don't fly budget airlines, kids.

[imkoolkiller99]

@luckysod04 my brother was looking at the comments and heard your comment lol and agrees

[Norbhhh]

i need the soundtracks!

[radudeATL]

I hope to God they all passed out before hitting the water.

[theblacksheep1000]

so thats it? they get a mere $500,000 and they never paid that? where is the justice here? where is the justice for the friends and family of the ones who died???

[platinum243125]

Dc-9s killed 1000+ people + the concorde flight 4590. the dc-9 is a cheap piece of shit

[HartsfieldSpotting]

@platinum243125 DC-10 left the aluminum. Duh.

[platinum243125]

@HartsfieldSpotting Actually, a titanium strip 

[HartsfieldSpotting]

@platinum243125 Whatever it was still a dc-10.

[platinum243125]

@HartsfieldSpotting ok

[evilassaultweaponeer]

@platinum243125 If the DC-9 is a POS, then so are the A300, A310, DC-10, MD-11, 747, and L-1011, because all of these have higher crash rates than the DC-9. Oh and the MD-80's record is better still.

[CrisKG125]

I would rather fly in a Fighter Jet, Ejection seat.

[bloodancers]

@CrisKG125 That could also jam and you might end up behind enemy lines :P

[331mdyer]

To Andy Neivel, you were a good friend to me at LMC may you rest in peace. xoxo

[jpa6791]

of course they show a black man packin them drat canisters.

[gbthecoach]

DC-9 is a fine jet. Delta puts them up in the air everyday. The DC-9, MD-80, MD-90 and MD-95 (Boeing 717) series is as good as it gets. Faulty airlines are what makes a jet dangerious

[dissimulii]

valujet? really? it was called valujet and people still booked flights on that shit? the name alone says "not if, but when."

[helsinkisuomi]

@dissimulii I know, and it had plenty of safety issues. But...most of the traveling public were not aware of them.

[Georgeruby12]

DC-9 IS A DEATH TRAP!

[hhluvzmagik]

And the reason she didn't hail an aircraft emergency was because she had no time to react because the fire was so out of control at that point.

[hhluvzmagik]

Reading some of these comments from people who do not know anything about flying, as a pilot, Captain Kubek made the correct decision NOT to deploy the oxygen masks. Because in the event of an aircraft fire, the last thing you want to do is deploy the oxygen masks. Because fire in a closed, confined space, oxygen will make any aircraft fire even worse! Any pilot will say the same thing. So next time you make a comment of her responsibility as captain, do your research first. Captain Kubek was c

[sirscrotum]

@hhluvzmagik I agree with you, I don't have a flying background but I trust these trained professionals more than monday quarterbacks and backseat drivers on youtube (or backseat pilots).

One of the air crashes in SFD that was the pilots fault was the Potomac river crash in which the crew forgot to de-ice the plane a 2nd time after a long delay from its first de-icing.

[hhluvzmagik]

It was the absolute and a

[RogueKnight12866]

Addendum to my last post. If I had been the first officer on Flight 592 I would've had the courage to override Captain Kubeck and had the oxygen masks in the passenger cabin lowered myself and declared her relieved of authority over the flight. I would've taken total and complete autocratic command away from the female captain for her total incompetence she showed here. She didn't try hailing control on 121.5 MHz emergency or Miami Intl UNICOM at 123.0 MHz.

[rzlgq1025]

@RogueKnight12866 And you would have made it even worse by adding oxygen to the fire... face it, the plane was doomed, no matter what was done or could have been done in flight.

[helsinkisuomi]

@RogueKnight12866 Actually, the NTSB investigators thought the first officer should've not approved the loading of the canisters. The guy was in the aviation industry for a long time...I personally don't think he would've had any problem of taking control of the airplane if the captain really made a wrong decision. Anyway, the NTSB "placed the blame" on SabreTech, ValuJet, and the FAA.

[a2ram]

@MrBenjamin1112 Any pilot with the same level of experience would have reacted in the same manner be it male or female; stop being a sexist pig.

[Annon1100]

@MrBenjamin1112

PS - Don't use this tragedy as an opportunity to rant about women pilots. Any male pilot would have reacted in exactly the same way as Candalyn Kubeck did. She was an innocent victim who lost her life as a result of Valujet's negligence.

[RogueKnight12866]

@Annon1100 Hate to say it, but this is to all those who are anti Mr.Benjamin1112. I have to concur in total with his view of Captain Kubeck's actions and that what she did was wrong. She should've lowered the oxygen and had her and her first officer wearing it themselves, dumb bimbo. The job of a first officer is to overrule the captain and assume command if the captain is acting in ways that place a flight in danger or if in danger already endanger the passengers any further as she did here.

[helsinkisuomi]

@RogueKnight12866 I guess you hope the oxygen masked would keep the pilots conscious and to save the plane, which would've been ideal but unfortunately didn't happen. I read a more detailed NTSB report and it did not fault both pilots at all. Oxygen sustained the initial fire and made it worse.

[Annon1100]

@MrBenjamin1112 Lowering the oxygen masks in the event of smoke in the cockpit/cabin is what pilots are supposed to avoid doing because this will add new oxygen to the cabin which can worsen the fire, or even cause it to 'flash over'. The disasters involving Air Canada flight 797 in 1983 and South African Airways flight 295 in 1987 had provided clear evidence of this.

Also, the rapid smoke build up on flight 592 was unprecedented and these pilots had hardly any time to react to it.

[austinlinjiajing]

@EZR09 I agree with you.

[EZR09]

I would have coughed and yelled fire on that plane too!

[lolKbgTgm6621what]

Ahahahahaha holy hell their production values truly suck. I've seen Roger Corman movies with more convincing special effects. They also lose points in my book for taking liberties with the ATC transcripts ("Uh, smoke in the cockpi-- smoke in the cabin" becomes a very assertive "We have smoke in the cockpit and smoke in the cabin").

Air Crash Investigations supremacy!!

[skyisthelimit523]

@lolKbgTgm6621what Are you really upset about two words of difference?

[MrPaki1996]

dude my favorite show!!!