Looks like the tide of stupidity is turning. Newton's laws of motion and gravity exist and you cannot explain how buildings fall without motion and gravity. Pythagorus was right. Numbers don't lie, people do.
Those towers did not COLLAPSE and e4xplosives are NOT THE ONLY way to demolish a building ! ! If you know the ONLY DICTIONARY DEFINITION of the words "GROUND ZERO" PRIOR to the attacks and you realise that ALMOST EVERY VIDEO like thIs one is just a distraction , accidental or contrived , perhaps there will be less CON-FUSION about what REALLY happened to those towers !
@fishingforbricks Huh? You mean conventional explosives cant turn a million tons of steel and concrete to dust? I better rethink my 'collapse' theory! THX for the heads up.
@izzysykopth Its a tough one to get your head round because it all seems so plausible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean you only need to look at all the other steel structures that have come down the same way !!!! Aaaah ......Houston we seem to have a problem !!!! I will get back to you IF I FIND ONE .............
911 was an inside job and those who say we should just accept the truth and move on will be made to suffer for their ignorance. Science and peer review are what's needed here. Without science and peer review, no one will ever know the truth and that's what I think the NWO want.
@MrSandykramer I will have to make an assumption here. I will assume that the plane that did not crash into the pentagon was diverted to an undisclosed airfield and the passengers were liquidated. When the truth comes out, all will be revealed. I can guarantee you that the truth will indeed come out.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?
@ctcole77 1. General Richard Myers, then the Acting Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Mike Snyder, a spokesman for NORAD. They both said, independently, that no military jets were sent up until after the strike on the Pentagon. That strike occurred at 9:38, and yet American Airlines Flight 11 had shown two of the standard signs of hijacking, losing both the radio and the transponder signal, at 8:15.
@ctcole77 If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
@Daddyo930 He's not any kind of engineer, (otherwise he'd make a video proving it, instead of running away)..he also wouldn't have the time to spend trolling YT threads, with copy-pasted questions that he PRETENDS haven't been answered hundreds of times..
@homerbear46 Yeah, I know. I had to block the troll. He kept following me everwhere on youtube and pasting the same stupid ass 30 questions over and over again. I warned him that if he posted on the music I wrote and posted on youtube that he would be blocked. He kept it up and got blocked. I know that he's all over you with the same stupid shit he does to everyone who can't believe that Newton's laws of motion and gravity took a day off on 911. Thanks.
@homerbear46 If he's what I think he is, he won't. This is his job. Counter intelligence went into overdrive after 911. As far as the National Security Agency is concerned, everyone is suspect when it comes to the security of the country. I watched a John Lennon documentary today. This country tried to deport him for anti-war activities. Things have gotten much worse since then. No worries though chum, as Bob Marley said, "Every little thing, gonna be allright".
The USA gave Pakistan evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11. Pakistaned examined the evidence and confirmed its validity, then showed it to the Taliban and recommended they turn over Bin Laden.
Sorry gullible shill, but there is no evidence that Bin Laden worked for the CIA. He didn't need their money. He dispised and refused to work with ANY westerners. And he didn't need US weapons because Pakistan gave him all the weapons he needed.
@ctcole77 If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
@ctcole77 You stupid fat fuck. If the government gave Pakistan evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 911, then how come he's not on the FBI most wanted list? The answer. The FBI does not have enough evidence to connect UBL to 911. How can you ask that stupid ass question when we found Usama Bin Laden in Pakistan when we allegedly killed him? Maybe they were in on it. What a stupid fucking question. We found Usama Bin Laden in Pakistan you fat fuck.
@ctcole77 Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world. That's from the FBI website you fat fuck. Nowhere does it say anything specifically about the world trade center. You should stop now. I'm surprised your handlers let you go on raping yourself intellectually.
@C/Pcunt..Ahh..is this where you've been HIDING since last time I fucking PWND your weak ass, (where you tried hit&running between 3 different threads, some going back to 2007, in a bid to "manage" ur embarrassment?)
U remember? where u lied that "130 saw a plane" @ the Pentagon (proving u'd never ever READ the "witness" statements)
U fucking clown.
OBL WAS on the FBI's wanted list...yes...NO remarks about 9-11 though.
.any chance I'm gonna get to see that vid of u at your "engineer" job Cole?
He's been wasting ur time with his faggy games since RUNNING AWAY from me, cos I PWND his bitch-ass for BULLSHITTING the "witnesses" @ the Pentagon (a laughable collection of media, Pentagon workers, "analysts" and political-climbers) "130 SAW a plane" (proving he hadn't even read the statements prior to our argument) He THEN got SO upset, he felt the NEED to LIE that he was "a engineer"...when I asked him to make a video PROVING this...HE RAN AWAY.
@ctcole77 Let me see now... The head of Pakistani Intelligence is alleged to have wired the $100,000 to ALLEGED lead hijacker Atta and is also meeting with the heads of the Senate and Congressional Intelligence Committees ON THE MORNING OF 911! Hmmn? Think they were in on it? The FBI themselves say they have no evidence linking OBL to 911. Ahmad probably went to Offutt AFB to celebrate with the rest of the perps comprised of financial elite, 'w' admin and senior military traitors. Get a clue.
This vid is woefully out of date. The towers did NOT fall that fast. Why do you have to use false info to make your point? Because your point is false.
WTC 1 collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC 2 in 9 seconds -- still way too fast for a non-explosives collapse. The fact alone that the massive core of the towers didn't remain standing, proves that explosives were used. Especially WTC 7 that wasn't hit by any airplane.
@ccd101 "WTC 1 collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC 2 in 9 seconds" That is not the full story. The cores stood for longer. See Wikipedia:
The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 11 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 9 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.
@ccd101 New evidence produced in 2007 shows the collapse of the wtc towers could have come about exactly as the official version states: Dr Keith Seffen, a Senior Lecturer in the Structures Group in the Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, UK published in American Society of Civil Engineers' Journal of Engineering Mechanics:
"In all senses, the collapse sequence was quite ordinary and natural."
@ccd101 Also by the University of Sydney, Australia Engineering Dept.
"The buildings did fall quickly - almost (but not exactly) at the same speed as if there was no resistance. Shouldn't the floors below have slowed it down? The huge dynamic loads due to the very large momentum of the upper floors falling were so great that they smashed through the lower floors very quickly. The columns were not designed to carry these huge loads and they provided little resistance."
@ccd101 Another relevant fact mentions due to the unique design of the buildings they were mostly air which would give little resistance: "Before the terrorist attack, the twin towers were 110 stories tall. Constructed of lightweight steel around a central core, the World Trade Center towers were about 95% air. After they collapsed, the hollow core was gone. The remaining rubble was only a few stories high."
You ignore the MASSIVE CORE which could only collapse by explosives. And your source link parrots the old "pan-cake" hoax, which even FEMA had to give up, because the "pan-caking" would leave the massive core standing!
Also, you ignore WTC7 (the 3rd collapsed tower) which was a regular high-rise building (not "95% air"), and not hit by an airplane. That only leaves controlled demolition. (As admitted by Silverstein on TV: "Let's pull it.")
@ccd101 I have ignored NOTHING. You are the one who ignores the evidence. Clearly you've only read what I posted and not all of the MASSIVE EVIDENCE which shows how the towers really came down. I suggest to anyone reading this to actually go to the links I provided and LEARN how it was possible for the towers to collapse due to the terrorist attacks and how it WAS NOT explosives. As for wtc7 it was getting late and I didn't get round to sending links on that. The NY Fire Dept knew it was going..
@ccd101 The NY Fire Dept KNEW WTC7 WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. The Chief of NYFD called Silverstein as a courtesy. The Chief had ALREADY evacuated his fire fighters ON THEIR ADVICE that the building was unstable and starting to show signs of collapse. Are you accusing the NYFD of being in on the 'conspiracy'?
Bet you didn't know that because you don't bother to look past your conspiracy websites for info. Why don't you do what I did and do some ACTUAL RESEARCH instead of parroting crap.
@ccd101 Tower 7 was not a 'regular high-rise'. It was like towers 1 & 2 a steel truss construction. Good for strength with low weight but they have 2 fundamental weak points. 1. There's hardly anything holding it to a wall. 2. A truss is mostly air with thin 'spokes' holding it together making it easily affected by fire. 2 years before 9/11 I saw a fire documentary where the firemen had a saying, " DON'T TRUST THE TRUSS" because its common for them to collapse during a fire. STUDY B4 YOU SPEAK!!
Regular Explosives dont explain Cars catching fire, but paper NOT combusting, there is a lot more to this than explosives, its way too lo-tech an explanation. The 'planes' were clearly CGI so it had nothing to do with an old- fashioned arial attack either. Hiroshima was half a century ago. Does anyone seriously believe the warmongers havent upped the ante in the last 50 years? The mass media are the first perps people should hold responsible. Psychological attacks are war too.
Do you consider yourself smarter than us Americonians cuz you can't spell "Symmetry" or are you smarter than us because of your Nation's awesome space program that put man on the Moon?
Watch the video again and look at the debris that is falling away from the building in a big plume. It is falling way ahead of the floors. If the floors are supposed to be falling at 'free-fall speed' how come the debris is way ahead of them?
no...you won't listen cause your mind is already made up, simple. The fact operation northwoods was a proposal by the JCS tells alot.
here's a question from me, where's the conclusive video of the Pentagon strike? I don't see any...if you can question any one of the events, all are suspect.
Nah man think about it! theres no way they could collapse that fast, have u ever seen a video of old shitty buildings being imploded/exploded i dunno which, but it looks exactly like that, the towers wouldnt ahve collapsed that way!
Anyone interested in the facts about 9/11 should see the above video, as it demonstrates the complete ineptitude of the people that claim the Government conspiracy theory is accurate. It highlights the contempt that they have for the truth and the obvious attempt to manipulate people for a PROFIT........Popular Mechanics is touted by all Government conspiracy loons as being entirely accurate, such is their inability to identify credibility and integrity
We've got passenger lists with no hijacker names on... We've got snatched video evidence..... Indestructible, fireproof passports..... No weapons of mass destruction.. PNAC.. new pearl harbour.. Advanced knowledge of the attacks. War games on 9/11.. NORAD disabled FEMA..the air is safe to breathe. False Flag Terrorism. 3 Pulverised Buildings (2 exploding Identically) Vaporised Planes and a bunch of loons on Utube hurling insults at credible questions NEED ANYTHING ELSE TO CONCLUDE A COVER UP??
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall - The manipulations of how they covered up and then had to admit free-fall and say it supports their model. This indicates a Controlled Demolition, and not a collapse with resistance as originally claimed by NIST.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor & print it without her approval?
Explain the plane that hit the pentagon then ??? where did that one disapear to.
and there hardly any footage of that yet it the heavest guardest place in america and that collapsed adventually so if fires melted that steel how could they get fingerprints from the bodies they would just be ash ???
what i'm stating is that a lot of people dont want to believe that it was an inside job. that it is easier to just believe that fire caused the fall of the twin towers and eventually wtc 7. the fact of the matter is that all three collapses defy physics. wtc 7 being the most obvious with its exterior walls collapsing straight down without any resistance.
vengence..."a lot of people dont want to believe that it was an inside job."...
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You mean those professional people that were in a diverse group of experts in tall building design, steel structure behavior, fire protection engineering, blast effects, and structural investigations?
They are some of the best engineers in the world and after years of intense study, they have come up with perfectly logical, scientific explanations for what happened.
c. a growing list of engineers and architects, along with students of engineering and architecture is available on ae911truth and is growing.
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And how many of them are experts in tall building design, steel structure behavior, fire protection engineering, blast effects, and structural investigations?
Some of those AE / 911truth people thingk a nuclear bomb caused the Twin towers collapse and some say no planes hit them.
They have NO idea or explanation of what caused the collapse.
'operation northwoods' was planned in the early 60's as a counter to cuba and the ussr. if you google it you can find complete reports scattered over the internet, so it is not going to disappear.
tstark..."jesus christ man and you cant draw that conclusion on your own, there is no hope for you."...
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So maybe you will connect the dots for me?
Please show me a detailed plan (like the 911 commission has) with names of people admittedly involved, money trails, time frames, witnesses, foreign connections, and those who have been convicted in a court of law, etc.
@mindprism....."Both involve the use of covert government sponsored terror to obtain a political objective."
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Northwoods, A secrete plan, was never approved, responding to an immediate threat and to take place on foreign soil with nuclear missiles pointed at the US 100 miles south.
No Americans to be killed.
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911, Not a secrete plan, and Not responding to an immediate threat from a foreign place.
All Airlines were put on alert, NORAD exercises..etc
while i havent analyzed the twin towers collapse completely it is obvious that wtc 7 collapsed in freefall. it is also the clearest of the vids available.
and yes a lot of people dont want to believe it was an inside job just because they would have to admit that someone in the u.s. government would kill u.s. citizens to herd the u.s. towards war, such as in 'operation northwoods".
frugodude76 you are a jackass!how on earth did you come to the conclusion that there was no concrete at the wtc? not only were there massive steel columns but there were massive amounts of concrete as well that just "happened" to be vaporized..WITH EXPLOSIVES!!! god i still can't believe that people are so ignorant about this to this day! also when u look at the fires on that day you'll see the smoke was thick and black which any firefighter will tell u that means the fire was weak and cooling!
No! There is no delay when each floor collapses because it is one COHESIVELY CONNECTED UNIFORM structure! During its collapse, the structure pulls in on itself in a uniform manner.
Now, if all the floors of the structure were independently "floating" and disconnected from each other, then YES, there would indeed be a delay with each floor collapse. But we currently have so such buildings. Americans are so dumb! Do you people attend any universities or do you just have sex with your cousins?
sometimes i think ppl would rather have the newest cellphone or computer than stand up againt evil,are we so stupid that we think only when told to, that we stand up for what we believe in only if we're coaxed to, nothing/nobody can tell you what to think. use your own logic and think for yourself,not what you've been preconditioned to believe,....its one more step towards freedom...true freedom and independance
first of all, jetfuel burns so much hotter than conventional fires. if there were bombs planted in the building big enough to destroy an entire floor, instead of dust shooting out of the windows, there would be fire.
it could fall faster than a rock because
1. it had a massive amount of weight above it and its surface area:density ratio was much higher
jet fuel burn much hotter than say a log of wood. It also burns off very quickly. Not long enough to melt the metal of the beams.
When we say "explosives" on each floor we are not talking about say, grenades, or a maltov coctail. We are talking about Thermate. (wiki or google it or whatever) that is used to cut the beams at a diagonal. (look at rubble pictures). The reaction yields a silver gray dust. Please verify or correct me.
(Jet Fuel) "Not long enough to melt the metal of the beams."
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No one says beams melted or that the jet fuel caused the beams to fail.
Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California notes:
"while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper."
Scientific fact: Kerosene (aka jet fuel) has a maximum burn temp of 1800F, and that is only achieved using pressure and the right fuel/air mix. An open air burn is under 1000F. "Rugs, curtains, furniture and paper burn at an even lower temp. The WTC steel was certified by UL to maintain its strength for 6 hours in a 2000F burn. There is no possible way that an open air jet fuel fire weakened the steel in the towers. It's simply not physically possible. Have your Mr. Williams address that!
Tony..."Scientific fact: Kerosene (aka jet fuel) has a maximum burn temp of 1800F, and that is only achieved using pressure and the right fuel/air mix.
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The jet Fuel burned off in a matter of minutes.
No one claims jet fuel was the cause of the collapse, only that it spread to several floors setting them on fire.
The WTCs were not your average ground open burn fires now were they? These fires were skyward at over 1,000 feet and being fanned by the wind just as one would do with a furnace in order to melt steel.
So, how hot does a 1,000F fire become when constantly feed / stoked with 10-20 mph winds?
Tony..."Rugs, curtains, furniture and paper burn at an even lower temp.
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Professor Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California.
States:..while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper....
He agrees reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F., more than enough to weaken the steel 50%.
Tony..."The WTC steel was certified by UL to maintain its strength for 6 hours in a 2000F burn."...
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Underwriters Laboratory spokesman Paul M. Baker,"UL does not certify structural steel, such as the beams, columns and trusses used in World Trade Center,".
Kevin Ryan, (the one who made the claim) was fired. Baker said because he "expressed his own opinions as though they were institutional opinions and beliefs of UL."..
@mindprism.."Want a new investigation Marksman500 or not?".
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Investigate what?
How incompetent our intelligence was by not stopping 911?
It's been proven in three courts of law in three different countries, people convicted using wire taps and informants to gather information that al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks.
So, what exactly is it you disagree with in these courts findings?
Im sure you followed those court cases closely as did the rest of the worldRight?
What about the structure BELOW the plane impact? There was no fire there so why did the undamaged and unheated structure collapse as readily as the damaged portion?
Skeptic..."The lower part had been holding up the upper part since 1971"...
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And it would have continued to hold it up if it were not for the massive amount of weight the upper portion placed upon the lower portion when it fell on it...
In other words you can lay a brick on top of an egg and it will not break, but place the brick 2 inches above the egg and drop it and it will break.
It is the force of gravity combined with the weight of the object falling on it...
vengence..."imagine 5000 bolts per story along with a thousand welds, plus thousands of rivets all snapping at once for 'each floor descending' is the point."....
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Ok, and what does that have to do with anything?
Are you just stating the construction or suggesting a demo?
ummm terminal velocity doesnt that mean that no matter the weight all objects fall at the same velocity. thinking heavier objects fall faster is a myth.
This is so simple to prove this is not true. The towers would have some delay when first beginning to collapse but would soon pick up enough momentum to fall at 10 floors/sec. Basic physics. The only reason the building in Madrid didn't fall was because it was made of steel AND concrete, so it would hold better where as the towers were only made of steel. Steel will bend when it gets hot, like most metals do. Durrr!
"This 32 story skyscraper in Madrid, Spain is a good example"
No it's not, it didn't have a jet liner rip through it exposing the steel girders (ripping off the fire proof material). Not only that but it's only 32 floors, the WTC buildings were 110, there was much more stress on the twin towers. Then there's the differences in the way the buildings were constructed. The Madrid, Spain building is NOTHING like the twin towers.
Zak even the NIST report states the plane didnt compromise the buildings core, and for the madrid example. 94 - 110 is 16 floors. It was only that part above the 94th floor that would cause stress. Thats why he used that as an example. Also look at the fire in the 1988 First Interstate Bank Building fire. That building was 64 Stories, and the fire burned for 3 1/2 hours out of control across 4 floors. That building didnt collapse. Think
... Another example is the 1991 One Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia. Raged for 18 hours gutted 8 floors, and the building was 38 Stories. DIdnt collapse... Think
"Zak even the NIST report states the plane didnt compromise the buildings core"
I'm sorry where in the NIST report does it say a jet liner didn't rip through the building or blow off fire proofing material? That's the claim I made.
As far as the Madrid building, it really isn't built like the WTC so it's a horrible example.
Same with the First Interstate Bank. If you're going to point to other examples of buildings not collapsing, point to a building with the same construction/damage.
"There should be a delay every time the pieces hit the floor"
Actually the energy of the collapsing upper section was transferred through the whole building (unless you're suggesting each floor floated in space and none were attached to each other?) It's like hitting a line of billiards balls, the energy is transferred almost immediately to the ball on the other end.
I would imagine the collapsing floors would create a lot of air pressure below them, enough to blow out windows. Plus what's your explanation? They're explosive charges? Since when do the explosive charges go off while the building is collapsing during a controlled demolition (the answer is never)?
"How can objects crash through steel and concrete floors as fast as they fall through the air?" When they weigh several thousand tons. How much did the top of that building weigh? And how can the narrator be certain that the collapse began with only one floor?
I think it is time to admit that Arabs are superior race. I mean you kick them out of flying school and here they come taking USA planes disabling protection system that doesn't let plane go fast at low altitudes to prove how much they know about your planes and to be able to prove how good they can fly taking the plane at hardest angle to pentagon.
And also bringing down 2 highest buildings in New York. And after all that some of them just mock by alive! After they smashed with plane! Bastards.
Xanzzu..."But all of that billion protection system fail to stop them."...
That billion-dollar protection system you speak about is for attacks from outside the U.S. not from within. But yes, now we know you can't trust those superior Arab's...
We welcome them to OUR country, and 911 is the thanks we get?
there terrorist can come form anywhere in the world. You hate everyone form that nation because you belief that 19 members of that nation attacked your nation do i get it right? That is one thing stupid to do. You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact. I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility.
there terrorist can come form anywhere in the world. You hate everyone form that nation because you belief that 19 members of that nation attacked your nation do i get it right? That is one thing stupid to do. You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact. I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility.
Xanzzu..."You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact."...
Hundreds of Millions of Arabs have seen Bin Laden's confession tape admitting to 911 attacks which also shows some of the Hijackers with him.
Hundreds of Millions of Arabs also believe it was 19 Arabs.
Xanzzu..." I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility."..
You still believe that shit?
Ok where are they Right Now?
List their names and prove it's them and not just someone with the same name.
If any of those hijackers were still alive you would think they would take the opportunity to destroy the official story and make the Americans look like fools.
It was before the attacks on WTC too. They fight a religion war.
Most of the people that come to USA and other places were trying to move away form that, and could not have to do anything with attacks on WTC. But you hate them too.
I welcome anyone who comes here legally and has the intentions of living the American dream..I Just don't like the ones who come here and want to kill me..
They all occur in the middle east not in the USA...and not in major cities in the USA...if you don't think that 9/11 was used as a fear mongering tactic used to fuel wars in the middle east you need to do some research my friend. Our gov't is very capable of this. Check out operation northwoods. Its so obvious what the intentions are and we are still reminded of it daily 9/11 this and 9/11 that..never forget..we are being had.. TURN OFF THE TV & WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
The southwest corner of WTC 7 and a third of the south face had been severely damaged or destroyed by the debris from the collapse of WTC one, and in doing so ruptured the oil pipes of the SSB Pressurized Fuel Distribution System.
Due to a severed pipe the lack of pressure triggered and signaled the "Demand", for the SSB System to pump oil up from its 12,000 gallon basement reservoir, maximally with a pressure of 50 psi and flow rate of 75 GPM (Gallons Per Minute), onto Floor 5.
The fuel supplier was contracted to keep the tanks full, and they were ALL FULL THAT DAY. The fires burned in sections of Floors 6 through 30 at different times, and they migrated along their floors independently, seeking new sources of fuel.
Diesel fuel pipes for all systems except SSB ran up the western side of the core of the building, along elevator shafts.
And the basement blew up take the main support tower with right force and in right place so it looks like control demolition. Nice. Oh this is the 4th time I've asked you how did it get to point of 1800F or 1000C in towers. You cant seem to remember to answer that. Well never mind ill just post that on every your reply till you say how, or that you just don't know.
The tanks were damaged. Tanks, and the building were made they could handle a fire. The tanks were to put up with fire.
But this doesnt mean that fuel didn't blew up.Lets say it did. How do you think fuel could put a force to blow up a support tower while not destroying the tanks?
Also ALL of the main support towers would have to blow up AT SAME TIME. Uh i dont think that would put fuel around every tower. And if they did there was no reason that all the
ok, if you say so. i find that rather irrelevant. the tanks were on different floors, isolated from each other, where find damaged not destroyed indicating that force of possible explosion were absorbed by the tanks itself, and they were designed to do that, and the fact that they were isolated makes it very difficult to imagine possibility that they blew up at same time.
Xanzzu..."You are right! They would not want it to look like control demolition. But if building fell in any other way it would made a lot more damage."...
Come on man, that doesn't even make sense..
If they were concerned about damage, they why destroy the WTC's and not some other National landmark. They could have gotten their point across if they crashed the planes into Airports. But the terrorist wanted to disrupt the U.S. economy..
Professor Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California notes jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning.
.."While the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper."..
He agrees that pockets of fire hit 1832°F. More than enough to weaken the steel 50% and fail.
;) Where did he say that pockets of fire hit 1832°F?
If you remember i told you that in offices are stuff like plastic and wood. See only problem is that stuff inst burning at 1000C. I think the wood burns at 300C I am not sure i wont look at it now. A lot of people use wood to heat up. I never heard that it melt down the oven. Did you? ;)
2 things could explain fall of the tower. In the floor where attack happed were large content of unknown compound which burns 700+ C, or explosives were planted. We could know what happed if only that steel where subjected to investigation. I did not. It was sold to old meta. What kind of people sell evidence of a case that cost all that money and all that lives= Well ok they owner of buildings earned a 7 billion $ because he took insurance policy 7 weeks before attack to terrorist attacks.
Oh they saved little steel for future generations. Isn't that nice. I think it is. Shame it did not get to me investigated. Maybe if we ask them nicely they will do it. I just dont get how were you able to think that steel could bend if temperature in from all the facts THEY say could not be more that 500 C. You would blindly think anything they say?
Oh they saved little steel for future generations. Isn't that nice. I think it is. Shame it did not get to me investigated. Maybe if we ask them nicely they will do it. I just dont get how were you able to think that steel could bend if temperature in from all the facts THEY say could not be more that 500 C. You would blindly think anything they say?
I produced facts but you forgot to write that down. I asked you what do you think i wrote wrong but you cant answer that, you don't know, but on the other hand that doesn't stop you for for saying that i have nothing good. Only thing you did say was:
"weight + weakened steel + gravity = fast fall"
anyway here is the video of guy that know much more that talking about 9/11 and studies that were done.
How did everyone become a structural engineer after 9/11? This is full of outright lies
TheHungrySnail 2 months ago
Looks like the tide of stupidity is turning. Newton's laws of motion and gravity exist and you cannot explain how buildings fall without motion and gravity. Pythagorus was right. Numbers don't lie, people do.
Daddyo930 5 months ago
Those towers did not COLLAPSE and e4xplosives are NOT THE ONLY way to demolish a building ! ! If you know the ONLY DICTIONARY DEFINITION of the words "GROUND ZERO" PRIOR to the attacks and you realise that ALMOST EVERY VIDEO like thIs one is just a distraction , accidental or contrived , perhaps there will be less CON-FUSION about what REALLY happened to those towers !
fishingforbricks 5 months ago
@fishingforbricks Huh? You mean conventional explosives cant turn a million tons of steel and concrete to dust? I better rethink my 'collapse' theory! THX for the heads up.
izzysykopth 5 months ago
@izzysykopth Its a tough one to get your head round because it all seems so plausible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean you only need to look at all the other steel structures that have come down the same way !!!! Aaaah ......Houston we seem to have a problem !!!! I will get back to you IF I FIND ONE .............
fishingforbricks 5 months ago
911 was an inside job and those who say we should just accept the truth and move on will be made to suffer for their ignorance. Science and peer review are what's needed here. Without science and peer review, no one will ever know the truth and that's what I think the NWO want.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
@Daddyo930
Whatever happened to the passengers who were on the plane which did/did not crash into the Pentagon?
Were they taken out by black ops?
MrSandykramer 7 months ago
@MrSandykramer I will have to make an assumption here. I will assume that the plane that did not crash into the pentagon was diverted to an undisclosed airfield and the passengers were liquidated. When the truth comes out, all will be revealed. I can guarantee you that the truth will indeed come out.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?
ctcole77 6 months ago
@ctcole77 1. General Richard Myers, then the Acting Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Mike Snyder, a spokesman for NORAD. They both said, independently, that no military jets were sent up until after the strike on the Pentagon. That strike occurred at 9:38, and yet American Airlines Flight 11 had shown two of the standard signs of hijacking, losing both the radio and the transponder signal, at 8:15.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@ctcole77 If the WTC was destroyed via demolition, how did the charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the buildings?
watch?v=Txc-4-QUnvM&feature=channel_video_title
Your not a chemical engineer are you?
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 He's not any kind of engineer, (otherwise he'd make a video proving it, instead of running away)..he also wouldn't have the time to spend trolling YT threads, with copy-pasted questions that he PRETENDS haven't been answered hundreds of times..
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homerbear46 5 months ago
....Have u ever noticed how these "9-11 debunkers" all seem to have "high-flying", respected "insider" jobs/positions?
Edgeman (ace fighter-pilot) Merlin5x5(explosives professor) Gunny(ArmySeargent) Dreadnaught(Knights Templar) Cole (engineer)
Despite the fact they seem like idiotic trolls?
Their little "fantasy-lives" are JUST as "rich" as the MOST KOOKY "twoofers" they claim to hate, such as VonHelton, or EarthsLastHope,
...all filled with HILARIOUS narcissistic BULLSHIT.
homerbear46 5 months ago
@homerbear46 Yeah, I know. I had to block the troll. He kept following me everwhere on youtube and pasting the same stupid ass 30 questions over and over again. I warned him that if he posted on the music I wrote and posted on youtube that he would be blocked. He kept it up and got blocked. I know that he's all over you with the same stupid shit he does to everyone who can't believe that Newton's laws of motion and gravity took a day off on 911. Thanks.
Daddyo930 5 months ago
@Daddyo930 ...I think he'll run away and hide somewhere else for a while now...he's had a bad PWNING here
5 Questions C/PasteCole can't answer
1 Why do you constantly "hit-&-run" between threads with NO memory of answers u receive?
2 Why are ur questions filled with LIES, like "130 SAW a plane" ?
3 Why do u PRETEND that the WindsorTower & ManderinOriental suffered global collapses at speeds consistent with CDs?
4 Why do u LIE you are "an engineer"?
5 Why can't you prove you are an engineer?
=D
homerbear46 5 months ago
@homerbear46 If he's what I think he is, he won't. This is his job. Counter intelligence went into overdrive after 911. As far as the National Security Agency is concerned, everyone is suspect when it comes to the security of the country. I watched a John Lennon documentary today. This country tried to deport him for anti-war activities. Things have gotten much worse since then. No worries though chum, as Bob Marley said, "Every little thing, gonna be allright".
Daddyo930 5 months ago
What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?
I don't know but I do know that he works for the CIA.
watch?v=vbWQVSZNddw
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930
Great job at doing your research!
The USA gave Pakistan evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11. Pakistaned examined the evidence and confirmed its validity, then showed it to the Taliban and recommended they turn over Bin Laden.
Sorry gullible shill, but there is no evidence that Bin Laden worked for the CIA. He didn't need their money. He dispised and refused to work with ANY westerners. And he didn't need US weapons because Pakistan gave him all the weapons he needed.
ctcole77 6 months ago
@Daddyo930
How about answering the other questions shill?
911 TRUTH = STRAWMAN
ctcole77 6 months ago
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@ctcole77 If NORAD was told to “stand down” how do you explain F-15 fighters ordered to intercept the high-jacked planes 6 minutes after WTC 1 was hit?
watch?v=JcXPbKkf5h8
That would take care of the pentagon.
watch?v=uUbVbmpblFk
That would take care of the World Trade Centers.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930
"What did the USA give the government of Pakistan concerning Bin Laden and 911 in early October of 2001?"
LMAO! Do some research.
The US govt gave Pakistan, one of only three nations that had diplomatic relations with the Taliban, evidence coneecting Bin Laden to 911.
The Pakistani govt was convinced enough by this evidence that they advised the Taliban to hand over Bin Laden to the US for trial.
So now, either you just got DEBUNKED, or Pakistan was also in on it.
ctcole77 6 months ago
@ctcole77 You stupid fat fuck. If the government gave Pakistan evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 911, then how come he's not on the FBI most wanted list? The answer. The FBI does not have enough evidence to connect UBL to 911. How can you ask that stupid ass question when we found Usama Bin Laden in Pakistan when we allegedly killed him? Maybe they were in on it. What a stupid fucking question. We found Usama Bin Laden in Pakistan you fat fuck.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930
ROFL!
Bin Laden was on the FBI's most wanted list.
And you "no evidence against Bin Laden" is a total lie concocted by 911 doufus Ed Haas.
THE FBI NEVER SAID IT.
Bin Laden was already indicted for the Kenya bombings and no one even knew if he was alive.
So you're saying the Pakistani govt was in on the OUTSIDE JOB?
ctcole77 6 months ago
@ctcole77 Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world. That's from the FBI website you fat fuck. Nowhere does it say anything specifically about the world trade center. You should stop now. I'm surprised your handlers let you go on raping yourself intellectually.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@C/Pcunt..Ahh..is this where you've been HIDING since last time I fucking PWND your weak ass, (where you tried hit&running between 3 different threads, some going back to 2007, in a bid to "manage" ur embarrassment?)
U remember? where u lied that "130 saw a plane" @ the Pentagon (proving u'd never ever READ the "witness" statements)
U fucking clown.
OBL WAS on the FBI's wanted list...yes...NO remarks about 9-11 though.
.any chance I'm gonna get to see that vid of u at your "engineer" job Cole?
homerbear46 5 months ago
@Daddyo930
LMFAO@ this bitch CopyPasteCole
He's been wasting ur time with his faggy games since RUNNING AWAY from me, cos I PWND his bitch-ass for BULLSHITTING the "witnesses" @ the Pentagon (a laughable collection of media, Pentagon workers, "analysts" and political-climbers) "130 SAW a plane" (proving he hadn't even read the statements prior to our argument) He THEN got SO upset, he felt the NEED to LIE that he was "a engineer"...when I asked him to make a video PROVING this...HE RAN AWAY.
XD
homerbear46 5 months ago
@ctcole77 Let me see now... The head of Pakistani Intelligence is alleged to have wired the $100,000 to ALLEGED lead hijacker Atta and is also meeting with the heads of the Senate and Congressional Intelligence Committees ON THE MORNING OF 911! Hmmn? Think they were in on it? The FBI themselves say they have no evidence linking OBL to 911. Ahmad probably went to Offutt AFB to celebrate with the rest of the perps comprised of financial elite, 'w' admin and senior military traitors. Get a clue.
izzysykopth 5 months ago
911 was an inside job and those who say we should just accept the truth and move on will be made to suffer for their ignorance.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
very thought provoking video
TheJUNGLESURFER 11 months ago
This vid is woefully out of date. The towers did NOT fall that fast. Why do you have to use false info to make your point? Because your point is false.
68spaceman 1 year ago
@68spaceman
WTC 1 collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC 2 in 9 seconds -- still way too fast for a non-explosives collapse. The fact alone that the massive core of the towers didn't remain standing, proves that explosives were used. Especially WTC 7 that wasn't hit by any airplane.
ccd101 10 months ago
@ccd101 "WTC 1 collapsed in 11 seconds, WTC 2 in 9 seconds" That is not the full story. The cores stood for longer. See Wikipedia:
The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 11 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 9 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.
68spaceman 7 months ago
@ccd101 New evidence produced in 2007 shows the collapse of the wtc towers could have come about exactly as the official version states: Dr Keith Seffen, a Senior Lecturer in the Structures Group in the Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, UK published in American Society of Civil Engineers' Journal of Engineering Mechanics:
"In all senses, the collapse sequence was quite ordinary and natural."
admin.cam.ac.uk/news/press/dpp/2007091001
68spaceman 7 months ago
@ccd101 Also by the University of Sydney, Australia Engineering Dept.
"The buildings did fall quickly - almost (but not exactly) at the same speed as if there was no resistance. Shouldn't the floors below have slowed it down? The huge dynamic loads due to the very large momentum of the upper floors falling were so great that they smashed through the lower floors very quickly. The columns were not designed to carry these huge loads and they provided little resistance."
68spaceman 7 months ago
@ccd101 Another relevant fact mentions due to the unique design of the buildings they were mostly air which would give little resistance: "Before the terrorist attack, the twin towers were 110 stories tall. Constructed of lightweight steel around a central core, the World Trade Center towers were about 95% air. After they collapsed, the hollow core was gone. The remaining rubble was only a few stories high."
architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm
68spaceman 7 months ago
@68spaceman
You ignore the MASSIVE CORE which could only collapse by explosives. And your source link parrots the old "pan-cake" hoax, which even FEMA had to give up, because the "pan-caking" would leave the massive core standing!
Also, you ignore WTC7 (the 3rd collapsed tower) which was a regular high-rise building (not "95% air"), and not hit by an airplane. That only leaves controlled demolition. (As admitted by Silverstein on TV: "Let's pull it.")
ccd101 7 months ago
@ccd101 I have ignored NOTHING. You are the one who ignores the evidence. Clearly you've only read what I posted and not all of the MASSIVE EVIDENCE which shows how the towers really came down. I suggest to anyone reading this to actually go to the links I provided and LEARN how it was possible for the towers to collapse due to the terrorist attacks and how it WAS NOT explosives. As for wtc7 it was getting late and I didn't get round to sending links on that. The NY Fire Dept knew it was going..
68spaceman 7 months ago
@ccd101 The NY Fire Dept KNEW WTC7 WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. The Chief of NYFD called Silverstein as a courtesy. The Chief had ALREADY evacuated his fire fighters ON THEIR ADVICE that the building was unstable and starting to show signs of collapse. Are you accusing the NYFD of being in on the 'conspiracy'?
Bet you didn't know that because you don't bother to look past your conspiracy websites for info. Why don't you do what I did and do some ACTUAL RESEARCH instead of parroting crap.
68spaceman 7 months ago
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@68spaceman
"Are you accusing the NYFD of being in on the 'conspiracy'?"
Not necessary, and irrelevant. The point is that the explosives had been placed before 9/11, otherwise Silverstein could not have pulled it.
ccd101 7 months ago
@ccd101 Tower 7 was not a 'regular high-rise'. It was like towers 1 & 2 a steel truss construction. Good for strength with low weight but they have 2 fundamental weak points. 1. There's hardly anything holding it to a wall. 2. A truss is mostly air with thin 'spokes' holding it together making it easily affected by fire. 2 years before 9/11 I saw a fire documentary where the firemen had a saying, " DON'T TRUST THE TRUSS" because its common for them to collapse during a fire. STUDY B4 YOU SPEAK!!
68spaceman 7 months ago
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@68spaceman
"Tower 7 was not a 'regular high-rise'. It was like towers 1 & 2 a steel truss construction."
Okay, then this applies to WTC7 too: tinyurl .com / truss1
ccd101 7 months ago
It was an inside job. No dobut about that. Wake up America!
anaclet 1 year ago 3
Interesting details regarding the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11.
new8go 1 year ago 2
Regular Explosives dont explain Cars catching fire, but paper NOT combusting, there is a lot more to this than explosives, its way too lo-tech an explanation. The 'planes' were clearly CGI so it had nothing to do with an old- fashioned arial attack either. Hiroshima was half a century ago. Does anyone seriously believe the warmongers havent upped the ante in the last 50 years? The mass media are the first perps people should hold responsible. Psychological attacks are war too.
OneHectare 1 year ago
The shadow govt. control more than just the US. Learn about the NWO. Check "Endgame HQ" or something.
TrutherD1 2 years ago
Check out "Ring of Power"
TrutherD1 2 years ago
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lismodels224 2 years ago
Do you consider yourself smarter than us Americonians cuz you can't spell "Symmetry" or are you smarter than us because of your Nation's awesome space program that put man on the Moon?
jizzmonger 2 years ago
I'm getting sick of this debate. Let's have a IMPATIAL investigaion and friggin find out what happened rather than just two sided conjecture.
movieklump 2 years ago
Watch the video again and look at the debris that is falling away from the building in a big plume. It is falling way ahead of the floors. If the floors are supposed to be falling at 'free-fall speed' how come the debris is way ahead of them?
10 storey building collapsing in 1 second?
Do the calculation:
say a 30 meter building:
Height=1/2 x G x T squared
30m=1/2 x 9.81 x T squared
T squared = 30m / 4.9
T= sqr root (30m / 4.9)
T= 2.47 seconds
pentagon28 2 years ago
no...you won't listen cause your mind is already made up, simple. The fact operation northwoods was a proposal by the JCS tells alot.
here's a question from me, where's the conclusive video of the Pentagon strike? I don't see any...if you can question any one of the events, all are suspect.
brokencasket 2 years ago 9
wouldnt the collapse gain a lot of momentum and thats what would cause this collapse so fast?
stumply 2 years ago
Nah man think about it! theres no way they could collapse that fast, have u ever seen a video of old shitty buildings being imploded/exploded i dunno which, but it looks exactly like that, the towers wouldnt ahve collapsed that way!
oritesane 2 years ago
Bullshit it was some kind of sick miracle.
halo2party 2 years ago
haha. I love dowty americanTs.
VanishingDigital 2 years ago
watch?v=dvFuRYyEkiU&feature
Anyone interested in the facts about 9/11 should see the above video, as it demonstrates the complete ineptitude of the people that claim the Government conspiracy theory is accurate. It highlights the contempt that they have for the truth and the obvious attempt to manipulate people for a PROFIT........Popular Mechanics is touted by all Government conspiracy loons as being entirely accurate, such is their inability to identify credibility and integrity
Veloce3 2 years ago
Veloce3 2 years ago
anyone that watches a building in freefall and denies it while maintaining they are an engineering student is a liar.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago 12
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall - The manipulations of how they covered up and then had to admit free-fall and say it supports their model. This indicates a Controlled Demolition, and not a collapse with resistance as originally claimed by NIST.
(Part 1)
watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng
(2)
watch?v=XtKLtUiww80
(3)
watch?v=Vz43hcKYBm4
Veloce3 2 years ago
thanks
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
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3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since the govt. committed 9/11, why arent truthers demanding the release of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is on trial for his life for a crime truthers claim he did not commit?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
Why did Dr. Steven Jones circumvent the peer review process by not showing his nanothermite paper to the chief editor & print it without her approval?
ctcole77 6 months ago
Explain the plane that hit the pentagon then ??? where did that one disapear to.
and there hardly any footage of that yet it the heavest guardest place in america and that collapsed adventually so if fires melted that steel how could they get fingerprints from the bodies they would just be ash ???
333free333 2 years ago
333free..."so if fires melted that steel how could they get fingerprints from the bodies they would just be ash ???"..
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Fire did NOT melt the steel, only weakened it.
They retrived DNA from Bone matter from the remains of the bodies.
Deceased Passengers with personal belongings such as wedding rings & Jewelry, etc. were identified by family members.
..."I did see airplane seats and a corpse still strapped to one of the seats."....
Capt. Jim Ingledue, Virginia Beach Fire Dept
marksman500 2 years ago
what i'm stating is that a lot of people dont want to believe that it was an inside job. that it is easier to just believe that fire caused the fall of the twin towers and eventually wtc 7. the fact of the matter is that all three collapses defy physics. wtc 7 being the most obvious with its exterior walls collapsing straight down without any resistance.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
vengence..."it is easier to just believe that fire caused the fall of the twin towers"....
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You are not being honest in your presentation that it was just fire.
Please tell me why you would purposely leave out the fact that Big ass 767 Jetliners flew through them causing "structural" damage.
It was in fact the combination of fire and structural damage that caused the Twin Towers to collapse, not just fire.
marksman500 2 years ago
vengence..."a lot of people dont want to believe that it was an inside job."...
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You mean those professional people that were in a diverse group of experts in tall building design, steel structure behavior, fire protection engineering, blast effects, and structural investigations?
They are some of the best engineers in the world and after years of intense study, they have come up with perfectly logical, scientific explanations for what happened.
Who do you have, Prof. Jones?.
marksman500 2 years ago
a. the towers were designed to withstand an impact from an airliner.
b.nothing falls at freefall like wtc 7 did without interference from outside, such as explosives.
c.a growing list of engineers and architects, along with students of engineering and architecture is available on ae911truth and is growing.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
a. the towers were designed to withstand an impact from an airliner.
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But not both the damage and the fire.
They did not consider the insulation being blown off the steel and the fire fighters not being able to reach the fires and put them out.
marksman500 2 years ago
b.nothing falls at freefall like wtc 7 did without interference from outside, such as explosives.
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It was really only 8 stories out of 47 stories that was free fall.
Less than half (2.25 sec. out of 5.4 sec.) of the collapse was free fall.
Stage..1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): (slower than free fall)
Stage..2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): (free fall)
Stage..3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): (slower than free fall)
So you disagree with those hundreds of experts who investagated?
What do you have?
marksman500 2 years ago
c. a growing list of engineers and architects, along with students of engineering and architecture is available on ae911truth and is growing.
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And how many of them are experts in tall building design, steel structure behavior, fire protection engineering, blast effects, and structural investigations?
Some of those AE / 911truth people thingk a nuclear bomb caused the Twin towers collapse and some say no planes hit them.
They have NO idea or explanation of what caused the collapse.
marksman500 2 years ago
kooks infiltrate every orgainization known to man. even kooks who would watch a building going into freefall and blame it on fire.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
perhaps you should read up on 'operation northwoods' and then look again at wtc 7 going down.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago 2
perhaps you should read up on 'operation northwoods' and then look again at wtc 7 going down.
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Operation Northwoods?
When did that happen?
marksman500 2 years ago
'operation northwoods' was planned in the early 60's as a counter to cuba and the ussr. if you google it you can find complete reports scattered over the internet, so it is not going to disappear.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
vengence..."'operation northwoods' was planned in the early 60's as a counter to cuba and the ussr."...
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The question's I asked were:
When did this 'operation northwoods' happen?
How many Americans were killed or injured?
marksman500 2 years ago
to the best of my knowledge 'operation northwoods' was shut down by jfk and no one killed under 'that' name.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
vengence ..."to the best of my knowledge 'Operation Northwoods' was shut down by jfk and no one killed under 'that' name."...
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You are correct.
It was only a suggestion and was dismissed by JFK.
In addition, it was to take place in a foreign country, not the U.S. and there were to be NO Americans killed.
Explain to us what Operation Northwoods has to do with 911 being an inside job?
marksman500 2 years ago
jesus christ man and you cant draw that conclusion on your own, there is no hope for you. If you want to be spoon fed, turn on your tv.
tstark172 2 years ago
tstark..."jesus christ man and you cant draw that conclusion on your own, there is no hope for you."...
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So maybe you will connect the dots for me?
Please show me a detailed plan (like the 911 commission has) with names of people admittedly involved, money trails, time frames, witnesses, foreign connections, and those who have been convicted in a court of law, etc.
Explain to us how it went down...
I promise i will listen..
Fair enough?
marksman500 2 years ago
@marksman500 >>Explain to us what Operation Northwoods has to do with 911 being an inside job?
Both involve the use of covert government sponsored terror to obtain a political objective.
But you know that. You game is to conduct a war of attrition by demanding everything be spoon fed to you, even the most self evident correlations.
mindprism 2 years ago
@mindprism....."Both involve the use of covert government sponsored terror to obtain a political objective."
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Northwoods, A secrete plan, was never approved, responding to an immediate threat and to take place on foreign soil with nuclear missiles pointed at the US 100 miles south.
No Americans to be killed.
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911, Not a secrete plan, and Not responding to an immediate threat from a foreign place.
All Airlines were put on alert, NORAD exercises..etc
3,000 Americans were killed,
marksman500 2 years ago
>>to take place on foreign soil
Northwoods: "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington"
Hint: Planning terror makes you a TERRORIST, ask the DOJ for crying out loud.
This plan got as high as the President before it was squashed.
The US IS a Terrorist Govt.
mindprism 2 years ago
@mindprism ..."Northwoods: "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington"
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..."The terror campaign could be pointed at refugees seeking haven in the United States"....
Not U.S. Citizens!!!
marksman500 2 years ago
@mindprism...."You game is to conduct a war of attrition."....
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And I could have pulled it off if it werent for your cunning Scooby-Doo investigative techniques.
Hey! Maybe you should join the 911 Truth Movement investigative team and tell us how 911 went down.
You could connect the dots for them and prove to all of us inside job!
That would be great!
Wait!..I bet you already have!
I bet you have something solid, otherwise you wouldnt think inside job.
Lets see it!
marksman500 2 years ago
>>You could connect the dots for them and prove to all of us inside job! That would be great!
Good, then you support a new investigation. With, of course, an unlimited budget, and subpoena powers -- correct?
You know, a REAL investigation, where we don't let Bush and Cheney refuse to take an oath to tell the TRUTH?
You support American citizens spending more that a nickel a piece to investigate the worlds largest terror attack against their country?
Great!
mindprism 2 years ago
while i havent analyzed the twin towers collapse completely it is obvious that wtc 7 collapsed in freefall. it is also the clearest of the vids available.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago 2
and yes a lot of people dont want to believe it was an inside job just because they would have to admit that someone in the u.s. government would kill u.s. citizens to herd the u.s. towards war, such as in 'operation northwoods".
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
frugodude76 you are a jackass!how on earth did you come to the conclusion that there was no concrete at the wtc? not only were there massive steel columns but there were massive amounts of concrete as well that just "happened" to be vaporized..WITH EXPLOSIVES!!! god i still can't believe that people are so ignorant about this to this day! also when u look at the fires on that day you'll see the smoke was thick and black which any firefighter will tell u that means the fire was weak and cooling!
metallicat61003 3 years ago
No! There is no delay when each floor collapses because it is one COHESIVELY CONNECTED UNIFORM structure! During its collapse, the structure pulls in on itself in a uniform manner.
Now, if all the floors of the structure were independently "floating" and disconnected from each other, then YES, there would indeed be a delay with each floor collapse. But we currently have so such buildings. Americans are so dumb! Do you people attend any universities or do you just have sex with your cousins?
fatfist 3 years ago
sometimes i think ppl would rather have the newest cellphone or computer than stand up againt evil,are we so stupid that we think only when told to, that we stand up for what we believe in only if we're coaxed to, nothing/nobody can tell you what to think. use your own logic and think for yourself,not what you've been preconditioned to believe,....its one more step towards freedom...true freedom and independance
derekhayescampR4Life 3 years ago
if you ask serious questions, you are a nutcase.
i like it!!!
HLarrigan 3 years ago
see this debunks RKowens4 fuck you you cia gov peice of shit we know what happened and we will NOT be silenced !
diecrewdeluks 3 years ago
bumbass
first of all, jetfuel burns so much hotter than conventional fires. if there were bombs planted in the building big enough to destroy an entire floor, instead of dust shooting out of the windows, there would be fire.
it could fall faster than a rock because
1. it had a massive amount of weight above it and its surface area:density ratio was much higher
your myth has been busted.
xchotch 3 years ago
jet fuel burn much hotter than say a log of wood. It also burns off very quickly. Not long enough to melt the metal of the beams.
When we say "explosives" on each floor we are not talking about say, grenades, or a maltov coctail. We are talking about Thermate. (wiki or google it or whatever) that is used to cut the beams at a diagonal. (look at rubble pictures). The reaction yields a silver gray dust. Please verify or correct me.
paradigmmaster11 3 years ago
paradig, "Please verify or correct me."
(Jet Fuel) "Not long enough to melt the metal of the beams."
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No one says beams melted or that the jet fuel caused the beams to fail.
Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California notes:
"while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper."
marksman500 3 years ago
Scientific fact: Kerosene (aka jet fuel) has a maximum burn temp of 1800F, and that is only achieved using pressure and the right fuel/air mix. An open air burn is under 1000F. "Rugs, curtains, furniture and paper burn at an even lower temp. The WTC steel was certified by UL to maintain its strength for 6 hours in a 2000F burn. There is no possible way that an open air jet fuel fire weakened the steel in the towers. It's simply not physically possible. Have your Mr. Williams address that!
Tony56841 3 years ago
Tony..."Scientific fact: Kerosene (aka jet fuel) has a maximum burn temp of 1800F, and that is only achieved using pressure and the right fuel/air mix.
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The jet Fuel burned off in a matter of minutes.
No one claims jet fuel was the cause of the collapse, only that it spread to several floors setting them on fire.
marksman500 3 years ago 2
Tony..."An open air burn is under 1000F...
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The WTCs were not your average ground open burn fires now were they? These fires were skyward at over 1,000 feet and being fanned by the wind just as one would do with a furnace in order to melt steel.
So, how hot does a 1,000F fire become when constantly feed / stoked with 10-20 mph winds?
marksman500 3 years ago 2
Tony..."Rugs, curtains, furniture and paper burn at an even lower temp.
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Professor Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California.
States:..while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper....
He agrees reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F., more than enough to weaken the steel 50%.
marksman500 3 years ago
Tony..."The WTC steel was certified by UL to maintain its strength for 6 hours in a 2000F burn."...
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Underwriters Laboratory spokesman Paul M. Baker,"UL does not certify structural steel, such as the beams, columns and trusses used in World Trade Center,".
Kevin Ryan, (the one who made the claim) was fired. Baker said because he "expressed his own opinions as though they were institutional opinions and beliefs of UL."..
marksman500 3 years ago 2
Tony.."There is no possible way that an open air jet fuel fire weakened the steel in the towers. It's simply not physically possible."
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Normal building fires and hydrocarbon (e.g., jet fuel) fires generate temperatures up to about 2,000 degrees F.
1,000 degrees F is enough to weaken the steel's weight or load bearing capability by 50%.
Temperatures reached about 1,800 degrees in areas of the WTC towers, which is more than enough to substantially weaken the light weight steel trusses.
marksman500 3 years ago 2
1) Challenger Investigation, 7 dead - $100 Mil.
2) Columbia Shuttle, 7 dead, 50 Mil + 305 Mil to pick up debris
3) White Water - 6 years, $50 Mil
4) Warren Commission, 1 dead, Unlimited Budget, final $32-Mil (adj)
5) 911 attacks, 20 months, 2749 dead, initial $3 Mil. final $15 Mil
6) Lewinsky investigation, 6 months, $7 million
7) Watergate, $8 million
Want a new investigation Marksman500 or not?
mindprism 2 years ago
@mindprism.."Want a new investigation Marksman500 or not?".
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Investigate what?
How incompetent our intelligence was by not stopping 911?
It's been proven in three courts of law in three different countries, people convicted using wire taps and informants to gather information that al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks.
So, what exactly is it you disagree with in these courts findings?
Im sure you followed those court cases closely as did the rest of the worldRight?
marksman500 2 years ago
What about the structure BELOW the plane impact? There was no fire there so why did the undamaged and unheated structure collapse as readily as the damaged portion?
Skeptic121 2 years ago
Skeptic..."What about the structure BELOW the plane impact?"...
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The structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass.
The energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that.
marksman500 2 years ago
" The structure below the level of collapse initiation offered minimal resistance to the falling building mass. "
Why? It was not damaged by the plane or the fire!
Skeptic121 2 years ago
"The energy released by the downward movement of the large building mass far exceeded the capacity of the intact structure below to absorb that. "
Really? The lower part had been holding up the upper part since 1971...
Skeptic121 2 years ago
Skeptic..."The lower part had been holding up the upper part since 1971"...
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And it would have continued to hold it up if it were not for the massive amount of weight the upper portion placed upon the lower portion when it fell on it...
In other words you can lay a brick on top of an egg and it will not break, but place the brick 2 inches above the egg and drop it and it will break.
It is the force of gravity combined with the weight of the object falling on it...
marksman500 2 years ago
how many rivets, welds, and bolts do you think were on each floor? welds, for the record, are stronger than the steel itself.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
vengence..."how many rivets, welds, and bolts do you think were on each floor?"....
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I couldnt tell ya, but what's your point?
marksman500 2 years ago
imagine 5000 bolts per story along with a thousand welds, plus thousands of rivets all snapping at once for 'each floor descending' is the point.
vengencefrom1979 2 years ago
vengence..."imagine 5000 bolts per story along with a thousand welds, plus thousands of rivets all snapping at once for 'each floor descending' is the point."....
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Ok, and what does that have to do with anything?
Are you just stating the construction or suggesting a demo?
What are you getting at?
marksman500 2 years ago
MARKSMAN owned the fuck outa you!!!!
his sources are basic and undeniable
pudgeman10 2 years ago 2
ummm terminal velocity doesnt that mean that no matter the weight all objects fall at the same velocity. thinking heavier objects fall faster is a myth.
buzwazfuz 3 years ago
HERES A THOUGHT
|BOMB ON THE PLANE|
YoungNastyMan313 3 years ago
Why does the dumbing down of america have to have such a big influence and last as long as it damn does?!?! AWESOME VIDEO!
DarylRummens 3 years ago 2
This is so simple to prove this is not true. The towers would have some delay when first beginning to collapse but would soon pick up enough momentum to fall at 10 floors/sec. Basic physics. The only reason the building in Madrid didn't fall was because it was made of steel AND concrete, so it would hold better where as the towers were only made of steel. Steel will bend when it gets hot, like most metals do. Durrr!
frugodude76 3 years ago
FAKE PLANES !!!
Shillbuster2000 3 years ago
good video!
ReposHaug 3 years ago
"This 32 story skyscraper in Madrid, Spain is a good example"
No it's not, it didn't have a jet liner rip through it exposing the steel girders (ripping off the fire proof material). Not only that but it's only 32 floors, the WTC buildings were 110, there was much more stress on the twin towers. Then there's the differences in the way the buildings were constructed. The Madrid, Spain building is NOTHING like the twin towers.
zakabog 3 years ago
true that!
frugodude76 3 years ago
Zak even the NIST report states the plane didnt compromise the buildings core, and for the madrid example. 94 - 110 is 16 floors. It was only that part above the 94th floor that would cause stress. Thats why he used that as an example. Also look at the fire in the 1988 First Interstate Bank Building fire. That building was 64 Stories, and the fire burned for 3 1/2 hours out of control across 4 floors. That building didnt collapse. Think
Dt0x75 2 years ago
... Another example is the 1991 One Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia. Raged for 18 hours gutted 8 floors, and the building was 38 Stories. DIdnt collapse... Think
Dt0x75 2 years ago
"Zak even the NIST report states the plane didnt compromise the buildings core"
I'm sorry where in the NIST report does it say a jet liner didn't rip through the building or blow off fire proofing material? That's the claim I made.
As far as the Madrid building, it really isn't built like the WTC so it's a horrible example.
Same with the First Interstate Bank. If you're going to point to other examples of buildings not collapsing, point to a building with the same construction/damage.
zakabog 2 years ago
"8.4 seconds!"
How are you getting 8.4 seconds from that graph? Really, how are you picking when it started and when it ended?
zakabog 3 years ago
"There should be a delay every time the pieces hit the floor"
Actually the energy of the collapsing upper section was transferred through the whole building (unless you're suggesting each floor floated in space and none were attached to each other?) It's like hitting a line of billiards balls, the energy is transferred almost immediately to the ball on the other end.
zakabog 3 years ago
"This dust is caused by extremely high pressure"
I would imagine the collapsing floors would create a lot of air pressure below them, enough to blow out windows. Plus what's your explanation? They're explosive charges? Since when do the explosive charges go off while the building is collapsing during a controlled demolition (the answer is never)?
zakabog 3 years ago
you must be retarded or blind and only see the dust flying out. did you miss the huge chunks of concrete and steel flying out?
geofrancis2001 3 years ago
"you must be retarded or blind and only see the dust flying out. did you miss the huge chunks of concrete and steel flying out?"
That was a direct quote from the video, so according to you the person who made the video must blind or retarded.
zakabog 3 years ago
"How can objects crash through steel and concrete floors as fast as they fall through the air?" When they weigh several thousand tons. How much did the top of that building weigh? And how can the narrator be certain that the collapse began with only one floor?
flynnt77 3 years ago
I think it is time to admit that Arabs are superior race. I mean you kick them out of flying school and here they come taking USA planes disabling protection system that doesn't let plane go fast at low altitudes to prove how much they know about your planes and to be able to prove how good they can fly taking the plane at hardest angle to pentagon.
And also bringing down 2 highest buildings in New York. And after all that some of them just mock by alive! After they smashed with plane! Bastards.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."I think it is time to admit that Arabs are superior race."...
Ya, I guess that explains why they are still living in the 9th century.
marksman500 3 years ago
But all of that billion protection system fail to stop them.
Can you not see the irony when it hits you over the face with with boeing 747?
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."But all of that billion protection system fail to stop them."...
That billion-dollar protection system you speak about is for attacks from outside the U.S. not from within. But yes, now we know you can't trust those superior Arab's...
We welcome them to OUR country, and 911 is the thanks we get?
Islam, religion of peace?...lol
marksman500 3 years ago
there terrorist can come form anywhere in the world. You hate everyone form that nation because you belief that 19 members of that nation attacked your nation do i get it right? That is one thing stupid to do. You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact. I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."I think it is time to admit that Arabs are superior race."...
Yes, they are the superior race and a world leader when it comes to:
Beating their women
Human Rights
Teaching children hatred,
Terrorism, Beheading's, Suicide bombings,
Yes, their God allah is very proud of them and has blessed them well for their good deeds.
I guess that's why they live in the9th century, live in the desert, drive American made cars and herd Goats all day.
marksman500 3 years ago
there terrorist can come form anywhere in the world. You hate everyone form that nation because you belief that 19 members of that nation attacked your nation do i get it right? That is one thing stupid to do. You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact. I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."there terrorist can come form anywhere in the world. "...
Yes, they attack everywhere in the world.
Islamic Terrorist have carried out 11,586 attacks since 911 that's 4-5 attacks EVERYDAY!!!
8/6/2008 (Mosul, Iraq) - A suicide bomber kills a civilian with eleven injured.
8/6/2008 (Baquba, Iraq) - Sixteen men found bound and executed by Sunni extremists.
8/6/2008 (Lashkar Gah, Afghanistan) - Police post attacked, killing seven officers.
That's just some from yesterday.
marksman500 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."You hate everyone form that nation because you belief that 19 members of that nation attacked your nation do i get it right?"...
I have 2 brothers in laws that are Arabic. One is Jahmal, he is from Jordan and the other is Mohammed, he is from Kuwait.
We all get along great!
In case you haven't noticed, Islam is on a mission to fulfill Mohammed's prophecy and killing us infidels is part of it.
Have you had your head in the sand or something?
marksman500 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."You belief that because they found a paper where there was list of 19 terrorist all arabs that took the planes, and automatically took that as fact."...
Hundreds of Millions of Arabs have seen Bin Laden's confession tape admitting to 911 attacks which also shows some of the Hijackers with him.
Hundreds of Millions of Arabs also believe it was 19 Arabs.
marksman500 3 years ago
Xanzzu..." I think the fact that they found 7 people form that list alive says 'nuff about its credibility."..
You still believe that shit?
Ok where are they Right Now?
List their names and prove it's them and not just someone with the same name.
If any of those hijackers were still alive you would think they would take the opportunity to destroy the official story and make the Americans look like fools.
marksman500 3 years ago
Good for you. I am all about making love not war. Sadly some people profit form war. No I am not trying to imply anything.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
It was before the attacks on WTC too. They fight a religion war.
Most of the people that come to USA and other places were trying to move away form that, and could not have to do anything with attacks on WTC. But you hate them too.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu,
I welcome anyone who comes here legally and has the intentions of living the American dream..I Just don't like the ones who come here and want to kill me..
marksman500 3 years ago 2
They all occur in the middle east not in the USA...and not in major cities in the USA...if you don't think that 9/11 was used as a fear mongering tactic used to fuel wars in the middle east you need to do some research my friend. Our gov't is very capable of this. Check out operation northwoods. Its so obvious what the intentions are and we are still reminded of it daily 9/11 this and 9/11 that..never forget..we are being had.. TURN OFF THE TV & WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
lancerz23 3 years ago
lancer..."They all occur in the middle east not in the USA."...
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Who or what is they?
marksman500 3 years ago
The southwest corner of WTC 7 and a third of the south face had been severely damaged or destroyed by the debris from the collapse of WTC one, and in doing so ruptured the oil pipes of the SSB Pressurized Fuel Distribution System.
Due to a severed pipe the lack of pressure triggered and signaled the "Demand", for the SSB System to pump oil up from its 12,000 gallon basement reservoir, maximally with a pressure of 50 psi and flow rate of 75 GPM (Gallons Per Minute), onto Floor 5.
marksman500 3 years ago
WTC 7 / SSB diesel fuel distribution system for generators
Ground level (2) - 6,000 gallon tanks
Ground level (2) - 12,000 gallon tanks
2nd and 3rd floors (1 tank 6,000 gallons) located between floors
5th Floor 11 generators (1 tank 275 gallons)
6thFloor switchgear, storage (no fuel)
7th Floor 3 generators (1 tank 275 gallons)
8th Floor 1 generator (1 tank 275 gallons)
9th Floor 1 generator (1 tank 275 gallons) = 43,000 gallons of diesel fuel in WTC 7
marksman500 3 years ago
The fuel supplier was contracted to keep the tanks full, and they were ALL FULL THAT DAY. The fires burned in sections of Floors 6 through 30 at different times, and they migrated along their floors independently, seeking new sources of fuel.
Diesel fuel pipes for all systems except SSB ran up the western side of the core of the building, along elevator shafts.
marksman500 3 years ago
And the basement blew up take the main support tower with right force and in right place so it looks like control demolition. Nice. Oh this is the 4th time I've asked you how did it get to point of 1800F or 1000C in towers. You cant seem to remember to answer that. Well never mind ill just post that on every your reply till you say how, or that you just don't know.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."And the basement blew up"...
It did? Must have been some of that 43,000 Gallons of diesel fuel located down there.
..."The main support tower with right force and in right place so it looks like control demolition."...
Why would they want it to look like a C.D.?
marksman500 3 years ago
Hey how did it get to 1800F at WTC?
you don't know how much fuel was in the tanks WTC 7 contained up to 43,000 gallons.
That is it max.
"The tanks were damaged and appeared to be empty and the report stated that
neither the underground storage tanks nor their associated piping contained
any residual petroleum product."
If you want i am gonna link the source.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
The tanks were damaged. Tanks, and the building were made they could handle a fire. The tanks were to put up with fire.
But this doesnt mean that fuel didn't blew up.Lets say it did. How do you think fuel could put a force to blow up a support tower while not destroying the tanks?
Also ALL of the main support towers would have to blow up AT SAME TIME. Uh i dont think that would put fuel around every tower. And if they did there was no reason that all the
of them explode at same time.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
"No more than 550 gal of total storage capacity may
be connected to one burner or may be installed without the protection provided in paragraph..."
"Storage tanks having a capacity of more than 550 gal but less than 1,100 gal may be installed
above ground on the lowest floor of a building, provided that all portions of such tanks above
the floor are completely enclosed with noncombustible construction having at least a 2 h fire
resistance rating..."
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu.."you don't know how much fuel was in the tanks WTC 7 contained up to 43,000 gallons. That is it max."..
The fuel supplier was contracted to keep the tanks full, and they were ALL FULL THAT DAY.
marksman500 3 years ago
ok, if you say so. i find that rather irrelevant. the tanks were on different floors, isolated from each other, where find damaged not destroyed indicating that force of possible explosion were absorbed by the tanks itself, and they were designed to do that, and the fact that they were isolated makes it very difficult to imagine possibility that they blew up at same time.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Why would they want it to look like a C.D.?
You are right! They would not want it to look like control demolition. But if building fell in any other way it would made a lot more damage.
"The controlled
demolition of large structures is a well developed art and science. Removing a tall building from an urban
landscape without damaging adjacent structures -- a considerable engineering feat -- is a task that only a
handful of controlled demolitions companies specialize in.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."You are right! They would not want it to look like control demolition. But if building fell in any other way it would made a lot more damage."...
Come on man, that doesn't even make sense..
If they were concerned about damage, they why destroy the WTC's and not some other National landmark. They could have gotten their point across if they crashed the planes into Airports. But the terrorist wanted to disrupt the U.S. economy..
marksman500 3 years ago
Xanzzu,
I forgot, you don't research.
Professor Forman Williams, Professor of Engineering Physics and Combustion at the University of California notes jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning.
.."While the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper."..
He agrees that pockets of fire hit 1832°F. More than enough to weaken the steel 50% and fail.
marksman500 3 years ago
;) Where did he say that pockets of fire hit 1832°F?
If you remember i told you that in offices are stuff like plastic and wood. See only problem is that stuff inst burning at 1000C. I think the wood burns at 300C I am not sure i wont look at it now. A lot of people use wood to heat up. I never heard that it melt down the oven. Did you? ;)
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu,
So, you are saying that the steel beams and trusses didnt fail due to heat?
They didnt sag or bend due to heat?
marksman500 3 years ago
2 things could explain fall of the tower. In the floor where attack happed were large content of unknown compound which burns 700+ C, or explosives were planted. We could know what happed if only that steel where subjected to investigation. I did not. It was sold to old meta. What kind of people sell evidence of a case that cost all that money and all that lives= Well ok they owner of buildings earned a 7 billion $ because he took insurance policy 7 weeks before attack to terrorist attacks.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Xanzzu..."We could know what happed if only that steel where subjected to investigation."..
watch?v=DzTEIqkZKIM
Google..."WTC remnants are constant reminders"
marksman500 3 years ago
Oh they saved little steel for future generations. Isn't that nice. I think it is. Shame it did not get to me investigated. Maybe if we ask them nicely they will do it. I just dont get how were you able to think that steel could bend if temperature in from all the facts THEY say could not be more that 500 C. You would blindly think anything they say?
Xanzzu 3 years ago
*same it did not get to BE investigated.
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Oh they saved little steel for future generations. Isn't that nice. I think it is. Shame it did not get to me investigated. Maybe if we ask them nicely they will do it. I just dont get how were you able to think that steel could bend if temperature in from all the facts THEY say could not be more that 500 C. You would blindly think anything they say?
Xanzzu 3 years ago
Oh and here is the man saying that iron melted.
watch?v=o1w_6nd0kj4
Xanzzu 3 years ago
I produced facts but you forgot to write that down. I asked you what do you think i wrote wrong but you cant answer that, you don't know, but on the other hand that doesn't stop you for for saying that i have nothing good. Only thing you did say was:
"weight + weakened steel + gravity = fast fall"
anyway here is the video of guy that know much more that talking about 9/11 and studies that were done.
watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg
and here is the Newton law applied
watch?v=5QMSAsOkumI
Xanzzu 3 years ago