There are no fountains of the deep, it is a mistranslation of water springing upward from the horizon earth. The ocean gulf could not be seen from the ark though built in a port city and so as the water came up it appeared to surround the ark from all directions as if rising up from the ground. It was first seen on all the horizons. This is NOT spring water, nor is there any water in the mantle.
Astral impact Julian 2370bc Nov 20 dated 2-10-600 whose Julian Sothic anniversary (3x 1460 years, 3x 365 leap days) is 2011ad Gregorian December 3. just 54 days ago (7+40+7). Armenia observes it this coming Julian July 9 (G.July 22) from 552ad, as the Flood's rise of Little Ararat and conception of Noah's grandson Arpaxad via Shem Melchizedek's rejoicing.
So then the Maya predict Armageddon as 5200 years of 360 days (3114bc to 2012ad) and then say four worlds before Noahs Flood were also each 5200 years. This is not the proof of previous global Floods before Adam. This is why it is important that we not defend God with lies. When Jesus said I am Abram's God he intended to say God remembers Abram alive to bring back; he was not saying Abram is already alive in heaven.
Defend with truth, not anti-matter crap for Armageddon, nor pyramids by angels before the Flood. I condemn anyone sitting at the GB of WatchTower who thinks their lies are truth by who they are.
(cont) Because astronomer priests insisted year 2256am is the Flood, they caused confusion for those who said year 1996am began a new world with Peleg's death starting the rapid aging we now know experiencing ourselves. The Maya thus say the 3rd world ended in 3374bc(1996am) 260 years before Noahs Flood ended the 4th world in 3114bc(2256am) with us now in the 5th world.This is not the proper calculation of previous Floods before Adam; it is a screwup of religious new worlds after the real Flood
@scorpian8king The previous "worlds" of mythology are not the same as the actual previous worlds (global Floods before Adam where the ONE canopy got thinner and thinner in raining), but the actual Floods were baptized continents not the christening with rain. Myths of previous worlds come from 1996am and 2256am. The Flood is 1656am, but 1996am began deaths 700 years younger than Noah, while parents lived like gods 430-460 years until Nimrod died at age 500 when baby Judah was born. (cont)
Just because Egyptian government of 1290bc says the world began in 3090bc (Noahs Flood) it does not mean Egyptians lived before the global Flood 2370bc. It is a miscalculation. Egypt began in 2170bc with Giza. Its calendar is 2030bc July 17 (Persian Pamenot 1) not 2770bc July 17 (Thoth 1). So too with Chinese Flood 2953bc for Noah is not Chinese living before the true global 2370bc Flood.
As for figures, Greeks say the Flood in 2958bc is 2242am based on a 2957bc Marduk of 2243am. However, Marduk 2243am is Hamurabi's Marduk date 1791bc May 5, as well as Mars 13 years x360 days later as 2256am in 1778bc Feb 26. Egyptian 2256am is 1770bc May 13 (Pamenot new year) or 7th month THOTH on Nov 9.Thus NeoBabylon is wrong to think 2256am is Apraxad of 2945bc(Toth Aug 29) born 2 years after the Flood, (his Marduk new year is 2368bc Oct 1). Every false FLood has a false Marduk date.ASTRONOMY
@JehovahsElijah you right the respective cultures have their problems. it is interesting, however, that not only has one (1) deluge occured since known 'myths,' history throughout the world, there has been five or even six before. The flood was the last occurance, when looking at theogonies of the "new World," one finds that there are a series of "worlds," which are gone through. Involving the calculations of stars but ALSO the obvious physical manifestations of changes on earth.
The Gilgamesh epic is dated with the rebirth of Venus on April 26 of 2040bc and was then rewritten by king Amizaduga for the rebirth of Venus in 1645bc March 10 at which both events are Venus in Pisces and Mars opposite the sun doing its turnabout in Scorpio.(2040bc honors Noah being 930 like Adam,but all men Peleg's age 230 are old and weak headed for death)This is when Gilgamesh swears to get the answer from Noah. His 126-year rule as king is 2157-2031bc &ends on ALL SAINTS DAY Nov 1(year 944)
@JehovahsElijah This is highly the Scorpion king of Egypt because Egypt begins with 2170bc Giza pyramids and so 2040bc observes this planet Mars (as Scorpion king). Note that this is 130 years 2170-2040bc which is easily confused with Nimrod building Babel 130 years after the Flood 2370-2240bc. Narmer (Nimrod) gained his fame in Egypt in 2020bc when Noah died and he then created the HOUSE of kings (called The Pharaoh).
I believe this means the bride must assemble 7 days, and that because Satan does exist, he will kill her the 7th day, she will be tried and killed legally in one day, (i guess they dont have Casey Anthony's lawyer), yet the very same day she dies, she will already appear as the whole bride all over the earth in locked rooms to her banned children telling them 40 days is it and to be in the mountains with all who go with them before that date or die.
For 7 days plus 40 days in 2011-2012, the Gregorian dates are +13 so Nov 20 is December 3 to Dec 10 to January 19. The Egyptian dates leap one day every 4 years so that in 33ad they were Palm Sunday March 29 plus 7 to Easter Sunday April 5 plus 40 to May 14 Ascension Day, so this is the last year Egyptian dates that match the 7 days Jesus packed his ark in 33ad, so that he could lift his church for 40 days from the death they entered, matching the same dates as Noahs packed ark 7 days this year
EGYPTIAN DATES RETURN THE LAST TIME, every 1460 years for only 4 years the dates of Egypt without leap day return to the same dates as they were in Julian calendar with leap days. The dates that fell on Nov 20 +7 = Nov 27 +40 = January 6 in 2370-2369bc returned in 909bc when king Pygmalion of Tyre demanded his sister drop gold into the sea to appease The Flood. Cousin to Jezebel, she faked it and bought land founding Carthage. 1460 years later in 552ad Armenia declares The Era, now January 2012
Ok so those people left the ark then almost ALL of them forgot god (at least the jewish version) and made up their own gods. I would think after a hudge thing like that and 1 family surviving, they would have more of a memory and would live in absolute fear of god and wat he would do if they fucked up again, but they didnt. and if thats not enough just look at australia explain that so it makes sense and NO because god wanted it that way or willed it that way in NO answer!!!!
@shwank1968 All cultures do fear a flood returning. In 747bc NeoBabylon miscalculated the Flood as 2947bc and fear 800 AD as being year 6000. Greeks miscalculated 2958bc and feared 800 AD. Hindu miscalculated 3102bc and feared 500 AD. In 1290bc Egypt miscalculated 3090bc as the Flood and feared 654 AD. Moslem miscaluclated 3122bc as the Flood and feared 622 AD as 6000. They felt that worshippiing planet calendars would make them ready for when the day comes. BUT lifestyle estructions amplify it
Why didn't the Chinese die? Because they were there in China 6000 years ago, and never went away. They just went about their millenia completely unaware they were supposed to be drowning in a cataclysmic flood from which only a handful of people, none Chinese, survived. What's your explanation for the continued existence of China?
the date of the flood did not happen in 2370 BC because all civilizations started of after 3200 BC the Egypt civilization started in 3150 BC one of the earliest civilizations. so this date of 2370 BC is not compatible with history. i believe the flood was around 4000-3500 BC
Yep I agree the flood happened. The problem with the world today is they don't want to accept it even though they cant find there missing fossils to claim there theory. Its like saying 1+1=2 that is not someones theory or saying 10 times 10 = 100 these are the facts. It has nothing to do with Christianity or religion, people are just stating what happened. There is in fact more proof for it happening than there is proof for 911 being carried out by Al quaeda.
@MultiSpread It doesn't matter if you agree with a bronze age myth or not. Lots of people have believed various things over time. What can you provide evidence for? You seem to like math. How about we work with that, eh? iIve got 9 trillion cu meters of NaCl in just one rock formation that says the flood myth is just that. A myth. It's all about heat and math.
Well, you're part way correct. It's a bible story. Just not true. No global flood. Basic geology shows a literal interpreation of genesis, esp. the Noachian flood bit, to be incorrect. Sorry, just the way it is.
Your ark with a stupid outside staircase has been doctored by me to remove it. Further, regarding Babel to G.Pyramid, Noahs year 732 is 2240 BC Nov 18 and the 70 years to 2170 BC is 71 calendar years of 360 days; year 803 on Nov 11. (The equinox for 2370 BC is Oct 12, for 2240 BC Oct 11, for 2170 BC Oct 10 (all Greg.Sep 22)
Incidentally, your ark door on one picture is 3rd floor. The door was 2nd floor that's why a 15-cubit draft of 1.5 stories covered it and it was said jehovah sealed that door for the 150 days water was on it.
Source 2031 BC Nov 1 is year 944 and 1894 BC Nov 2 is year 1083.
Peleg died May 5 of 2030 BC and Nahor's Xmass suicide with Haran was May 5 of 2029 BC on Koyak 24 (Greeks claim Koyak 24/25 began Noah's 40 days in a Flood 2958 BC Dec 24/25). Kayak is a boat referring to 70-76 days of Sothis taking a boat underground to rise again with the sun.
Each event of Great Pyramid failure was bragged by other cities success such as Ur measured 291 years as 3600 new moons in 2078 BC. Thus the star Seth in the BIg Dipper failed and Osiris the moon glorified. In 1986 BC the Capricorn Saturnalia of planet Saturn with winter sun marked 13 orbits. In 1894 BC Damuzi-Marduk's 13 years marked Noah's year 1083 on All Souls Day Nov 2.
The great pyramid shaft was started in 2170 BC to measure every 100 years from the Flood (100x 360 versus 100x365 versus 100 plus 25 leap days). It took 275 years to build because its tradition thinks it was the tower of Bable falling in the 1st year (2240 BC versus Babylon 1894 BC). The shaft failed from star precession ever 92 years 2170-2078-1986-1894 BC resulting in three chambers.
Did you know that all 365-day calendars match exactly the 40 days of Jesus to Noah. Get a program; 2370 BC Nov 27 to 2369 BC Venus epiphany Jan 6 is the exact same dates as 33 AD Easter Sunday April 5 to Ascension Day May 15. Egyptian Parmuti 24 to Payni 4. Yezdezred's Amerdad 24 to Moher 4; Zoroaster Amerdad 19 to Sherever 29; Persian Parmuti 19 to Pakon 29.
Japanese miscalculated Flood as 3060 BC is because of a false 30-year Saturn (690 years) which is actually 29.5 years, two orbits of 59 years which can appear as 60 years in 360 days. Compare 10,775 days (29.5 Julian) to Saturn 10,763 days to 10,800 days. Ur ruled 177 years or 6 orbits but its 60-orbit Saturnalia are not 1770 years from Nimrod's death at 500 in 1770 BC; just 1768 years.
Fountains of the great deep is another misunderstanding. Water up and out from the earth (ground, soil, land) is tsunami coming from the horizon. There is no water in mantle lava magma other than ocean water in the fault cracks that steams from volcanoes. Two miles of water is not created in one single year.
Don't be false Creationists who think the layers of the Grand Canyon were laid down only by the one-year Flood & hardened & then carved. One-year Floods from astral impact brought the land up in layers creating continents that FLOAT on lava magma mantle solid until fractured again, & melting a mile deep under the crust, creating a magma tsunami plunging all land by 1 mile while ocean floors rise bulging up 1 mile, putting land surface at ocean floor level under 2 miles of water.
Wrong to say disaster never before occurring nor again.Only one while man was alive; but asteroids have hit since creation of Earth before its ocean formed,the method continuing to hit making land rise day 3.
Jehovah proves the maximum depth of Flood is 2 miles, last time all going under, this time not. They were wrong to think all the water was from the 40-foot water canopy. Can they be wrong, and not know? Noah told Gilgamesh yes he knew the flood, could see it coming, but did not know short life, nor saw it coming. Short life is caused by C14 in DNA.
Jehovah proves the maximum depth of Flood is 2 miles, last time all going under, this time not. They were wrong to think all the water was from the 40-foot water canopy. Can they be wrong, and not know? Noah told Gilgamesh yes he knew the flood, could see it coming, but did not know short life, nor saw it coming. Short life is caused by C14 in DNA.
JasonTryp? There is no continuation of preFlood. The pre-Flood city foundation floors of Larsa were found by Noah's post-Flood descendents and used to build a post-Flood Larsa. Just as man cities after Armageddon will have ruins after this coming Flood.
King Gilgamesh ruled 126 years (2157-2031 BC). Noah's new year 944 falls on Halloween All Saints Year when people begin to die 700 years short. For 10 years Noah is called Utu-Napishtim dying in 2021 BC on Dec 24 xmas eve. Gilgamesh very old like Peleg was dying at a mere 240. The story is older than the Xisuthros story tho Xisuthros tablets are older than Gilgamesh tablets. The 40-day seance with Xisuthros ended on 2020 BC Feb 2 beng Thoth 24 (Zoroaster xmas Deen 24).
Babel was also founded in year 130 after the Flood; Novv 18 of 2240 BC is 128 years after 2368 BC Oct 1 (130x 360 days). It marks ten of 13 years (6 orbits of Mars) known as Damuzi the calendar Leader before becoming called Marduk in 2009 BC. Narmer (Nimrod) and Peleg had left their fathers Cush and Eber in Kish where they were raised and headed 5 miles west to build Babel where Peleg had an argument and left to build Ur.
The Sumerians begin with Ur which was founded in year 130 after the Flood. Built as a house by Peleg Mesanipada in 2239 BC (carbon dates it as 7000 BC). Then 32 years later he gave his whole house to his son Reu Aanipada to rule as an elder for 80 years until 2127 BC and Meskiag-Nannar took rule because in 243 years Venus returns to exact positions (2370-2127 BC). Nannar means great mother or grandma so this proves nannar was Venus before it was the moon.
The Maya started at Volcano Cosiguino in 1314 BC on July 1 at and headed up river to build Copan in 1313 BC. (marked by the star Sirus.) Mayan 3114 BC is creation of current world by Noah's Flood. It is a miscalculation believing that the 180 solar leap days of 744 years (2370-1626 BC) made a full circle 744 years earlier as 3114 BC. Using the global disaster of 1513 BC as year 1600 (4x400) proves they did not exist before then.
Yawn. Old news and debunked in so many places it's not even funny anymore. When YECs can provide a rational explanation to what is really seen in the rock record, including the many deep deposits of caliches, anhydrites, and dessication formation found in the crust, then maybe they'll be worth listening to. Points for putting the subject matter together, but it's still a fairy story.
My hopes were disappointed in the lack of content in this video. You should also doctor up false drawings like those that put steps on the outside of the ark. The account clearly signifies a 2nd floor door by saying God sealed it. This means the door was covered by water , which 15 cubits would do that half way. If text makes the greatest presentation, there is so much more about 100 times than presented here. This includes:
40 ft rain 1/2 inch per hr for 40 days releasing double pressure upon sea level & normal pressure 14.5 lbs immediately under the water vapor layer (ice in space reflects 75%). Land crust collapses from mantle meltdown 2 miles UNDER continents flowing out to ocean floor plates at a rate of 40 ft every mid continent moonrise & moonset which lift the ocean floor 1 mile high for 5 months at a rate of 20 feet every mid ocean high tide. It takes 8 months to drain the Ararat valley around the mountain.
The 1st Chinese day of 60-day cycle ends 40d of Noah's Flood on 2369BC Jan 6 the M.E & western epiphany of Venus in Aquarius as date 3-27 & ends 40 days on 2020BC Feb 2 as 5-27 after Noah's death again with the Chinese epiphany of Venus in Aquarius. (KiahTse /JiaZi)
if i showed you a seal and a porpoise, then said i turned the seal into a porpoise would you consider it proof. there is no proof that any species of animal has very turned into another species animal. only proof that there are many species of animal. Dogs have been bred for 10s of thousands of years but no one has ever bred a new species of dof or any other animal for that matter.
there was an interference preventing them from detecting gravity waves. this was predicted by scientists who said that the interference from the pixilation of matter would creat interference in the detector. the search for gravity waves provided evidence that supported the theory of a simulation.
imagine a little boy looking out the window for the first time, and thinking his little neighborhood is all there is. We are like that little boy. have you heard of moore's law? in 1958 Moore said transistors in an integrated circut would double approximately every two years. an idea that wasn't received very well at the time. now it doesn't seen so crazy. according to moore's law we will create an intelligence greater much than our own within the next 100 years. imagine what will come in 500.
Moore's law will fail in a couple of years. We are reaching the limits of silicium based chips. If we double it up again, your pc will melt.
The next step is quantum computers. And that thing will trigger a new industrial revolution. Today, silicium based power houses need appr 1000 years to crack an nicely encrypted key. A quantum computer would do it in less then a split second.
Moore's law says processing power will double every year. This is allready slowing down today. Quantum computers ARE the next step, but we have a long way to go there. Don't expect them to be consumer devices the next decade. At this point, quantum processing technology hasn't been able to do much more then 7+8=15. When this computer is attained though, it will not "double" current power. it will multiply by a factor of several thousands. But enough about moore, it's not relevant.
outside of our universe probably lies an ocean of universes. weCAN say for a certainty that our universe came from somewhere. It did not form from nothing. We know that is impossible. nothing can form from nothing. a tremendous power must have been involved in the making of our universe. imagine what that must look like. imagine how old that must be. imagine the possibility for life to exist beyond our universe. imagine the age of that life. imagine the knowledge that must exist beyond our own.
And nobody claims the universe came from nothing. The big bang is not an "explosion" like you probably believe, it is seen as an expansion. Matter/energy can't be created or destroyed. So saying that at one point (before the expansion) there was nothing is absurd.
An explosion triggers an expansion, but an expansion doesn't need to be the result of an explosion.
But I'm not afraid to say that we don't know what the big bang was all about. We know it happened, we don't know what triggered it. Saying "god dun it" is no better then saying "unicorns dun it". Speculation and this "god-of-the-gaps" fallacies are not to be taken seriously.
Dude... the only evidence for a global flood is actual factual material evidence of a global flood in the geological record. Such things are very easily recognised. There is NO evidence of a global flood whatsoever. There is evidence of local floods left and right (especially as the ice ages came to an end between 100.000 and 10.000 years ago - where do you think all those myths came from?), but there is zero evidence of a global simultanous flood. Zero. Myths and hear say won't cut it.
Again, hear say and myths won't cut it. The bible is not evidence. The bible is the CLAIM. The HYPOTHESIS, wich you would need to validate with DATA OUTSIDE of the source of the claim. A global simultanous flood is a serious claim, a scientific hypothesis even, since it is testable. It makes predictions. The simplest one being that we should see traces from this flood in the geological record EVERYWHERE. However, no such traces exist. => FAIL.
I would agree if formulated without that "certainly". As in: "there's probably life in some form elsewhere in the universe. And this life might be of a certain intelligence and it might be even more advanced then us technologically".
Adding that "certainly" is not correct. You can't speak in absolutes about unkown things. But probability tells us that "life" is probably found elsewhere in the universe. what's your point?
My point is that we are the whos that horton heard in the speck. the world outside our own is so much larger than we are we can no longer think of ourselves as the center of the universe, or the only universe for that mater.
my point is it is much more likely that there is a god than it is that there isn't. so much more likely that the chance there is no god is negligible. not even worth mentioning. It is safe to say God is a certainty.
And how did you arrive at that conclusion? You can't just "state" this, you need to validate it with arguments. In the end, it's the arguments (and the correctness thereof) wich gives credibility to the statement. The statement itself is useless and void without those arguments. So share those arguments please.
Moore's law needs no argument. It's not call a law for nothing. Many people/teachers think a scientific theory is a law but a theory is just that a theory. It may or may not have supporting evidence like for instance the very new theory that our universe is a simulation. It of course does have supporting evidence. it has been proven that there is granulation of matter. this came as a result of a very sensitive instrument being used to detect gravity waves.
Moore's law is not a scientific law. It's a business practice. You have clearly no clue about the scientific method.
In science, a theory is HIGHER then a law.
It goes (in level of importance in SCIENCE): observation, fact, law, THEORY.
Scientific theories are not "guesses" or whatever dude. It's not the same as "theory" in for example criminology. Theory is science is the explanation of the data as well as the laws. Theory is of HIGHER value then laws.
A law of gravity states that if an object with a certain mass is captured by a gravitational field, it is attracted to it. That's a law. A universal statement. Gravitational Theory however EXPLAINS WHY that is the case. A theory is science is not "just a theory". A theory in science is the BEST possible explanation of the data. It explains the how and the why, wich forms the basis of new technology.
When in SCIENCE something is called a Theory, it means that the theory accounts for ALL the data. Such theories make predictions about what else we should see/find in the world. It remains a Theory UNTIL it is proven wrong (for example: when one of the predictions don't check out, when it is thus falsified). A "theory" for wich there is NO evidence is not called a theory but a Hypothesis.
Learn about science before talking bullshit please.
If you accually asked a question I could give a better answer. If you will look a little closer you would see i stated lots of things. Which one are you referring to. The statement you made could refer to any one of the many statements i made.
just because hundreds of myths were found doesnt make it true. its still a coincidence until the christians can prove otherwise. and that will never happen, so you can't call the flood true.
It's no coincidence. It's simply that the rise of greater cooperation within tribes, development of language, rise of agriculture etc coinceded with the last stages of the Ice Age. Off course there were floods. There was never one huge global flood off course... But almost ever civilisation has its flood story. Just like a lot of civilisations have their volcano and earth quake story. Today, these aren't all that impressive anymore since we know what they are... in those days though...
It's not just Christians. Hebrew legends, Babylonian (Gilgamesh Epic), Egyptian, Chinese, etc.
Extinct animals such as the Wooly Mammoth have been consistently found when intact with vegitation in their mouth and to have died suddenly in flood like situations and to have been frozen quickly. That is just one example. There is the mid-atlantic rift in the middle of the atlantic ocean that many point to as a consequence of a possible asteroid impact and release of flood waters.
Please present one academic, peer reviewed scientific paper that proports to show evidence for the great deluge using fossilized Wooly Mammoths. In case you are not sure, this request is rhetorical as no such papers exist.
@JasonTryp The mid-atlantic rift is a rift, where sea floor spreading takes place, lava comes out. It is proof of plate tectonics not a release of water.
The Egyptian, Chinese & Aztec civilizations began after the flood and where just a continuation of sorts of the pre-flood civilazation mixed with Babylonian pagan beliefs as the Sumerian civilization was the first major one after the flood. The proof is in the pudding. All these civilizations have distorted accounts of the original flood story. The ark was about 100 years or so in the making. Sufficient time to store food and figure out problems such as manure, etc.
ps: bringing forward that much people from Noah's little family in such short time is simply biologically and mathematically impossible.
pps: there is not a single shred of geological evidence
ppps: noah's ark is nowhere to be found. pppps: if the ship was 100 years in the making... how old did Noah become then? 150? His family as well then obviously.
ppppps: there's so much irational stuff in your post, it ain't even funny.
And you consider it to be plausible that not only did Noah's family (you know, the handfull of "chosen once" who were "allowed" to survive) repopulate the WORLD bringing forward several big civilisations and thousands of tribes, but that these also went back to pagan religions? Even without ANY trace at all of the monotheistic religion of Noah? Do you really think this could have happened within 100 years? A miracle on THAT scale just ignored? SERIOUSLY?
Considering that artifacts of those civilizations have been conclusively dated to before 2370 BCE I dont know where you are getting your information, besides the bible of course. Also how does the single ark carrying all surviving life, besides those creatures that managed to survive in the world covering ocean, account for the amazing diversity we observe in life today?
@abacusGuy Kish was founded 2270bc;Babel was founded Nov 18 of 2240bc;Giza Egypt was founded on Oct 12 of 2170bc; Noph Mizraim was founded on July 17 of 2030bc;The Pharaoh was created on July 14 of 2020bc.It was a house of kings, 1st dynasty 2nd 3rd 4th and 6th 7th & 8th.the 9th &10th too young to yet belong to it. The first kings BEFORE The Pharaoh were not the 1st dynasty but 5th dynasty and were all dead by 2030bc.Hindu did not leave Ur until 1900bc and did not leave Babylon until 1625bc.
@abacusGuy 2. The Hindu celebrated 1200 years in 700bc. The Chinese celebrated 600 years of Ur in 1437bc (600x 360 days) are 592 years. And then mistook it as 1200 years back to 2637bc. The Chinese Noah's Flood is 2953bc because it thinks Ur's year 2233bc as 720 years until global comet disaster in 1513bc was preceded by an identical 720 years before Ur. China was wrong, the 137 Julian years are sothic (139x 360 days) and 180 missing days are not leap days but 36 years of Peleg missing 5 days
@abacusGuy 3. The Maya reached Volcano Cosigina on July 1 of 1314bc and then founded Copan on July 1 of 1313bc. But their origin is from Ur 2030bc, the Mari Syria (circa 2048bc) until dragged to Babylon in 1762-1761bc, these Maya left Babylon in 1625bc, most with Hindu, some to Egypt. The Maya were not accepted by Hindu who had already been in India since the fall of Ur in 1900bc, so they moved on... as China 1437bc, the Maya timeline matches dates of Egypt and dates of Japan.
@abacusGuy 4. The lie frequently drifts to become true, and the truth drifts to be lie. Example August in Leo was truth 2000 years ago, now August is Cancer and September is Leo. So what was once true is now lie. The opposite happens also, lie becomes truth. The Egyptian month (Thoth or Tot) is Mayan Pop or Phoph. But in 1313bc Maya found Thoth (Pop) to be on July 18 and instead insisted the rise of Sothis at Copan was a July 1 Pop 1. This was claimed to go back to Noahs death in 2021bc Dec 25.
@abacusGuy 5. Noahs name Utu-Napishtim means Sun of great many days, and his death was regarded as his being reborn into heaven. BUT it takes 1460 years for the January 6 solstice of 2020bc to drift back 12 days so that it becomes December 25 from 560bc to 521bc for Persian Magi to declare the memorial of Noahs death as the reborn winter sun. This creates the lie saying Noah died on the winter solstice because during Cyrus & Darius Dec 25 is the solstice for 100 years.
The problem is still the same if you have a different earth. however if there was no water at all on the earth why not! I believe with physical aspect, and water in a glass does not disappear in 3 sec it self. If you increase the volume of water by billion fo billion m3 , you can't think that disappear in few weeks especially if the entire Earth is below thousand meters of water (because arch is supposed to be on mountain). Waiting for your explanation of sacred text. have good week end!
Si vous imaginez un peu la situation, que l'eau disparaisse assez vite pour pouvoir créer certains canyons, il faut que ce soit très très rapide!!! or la terre n'est pas une baignoire de laquelle on enlève le bouchon d'évacuation!!! Alors un déluge mondial est irrationnellement impossible! Une très grosse inondation régionale par contre est bien plus raisonnable, puisque nous en avons encore aujourd'hui! Et quoi de mieux qu'un bateau pour y échapper! Vraiment rien d'exceptionnel!
I am just learning French but I get the idea you have some questions, for example about where all the water went. That is a good question, if I understand correctly. I will try to get back to you, hopefully this week. I need to look up some of the French words I don't know yet. Bonjour!
Ok, this is what I figured out so far, I hope! You're saying the eath is not like a tub where you can pull hte plug & the water goes down rapidly. You think a huge regional flood, such as seen in our own time, is more reasonalbe. You are going by the belief in uniformity, i.e. the world was as it is today, & so should be expected to "behave" as the world today. Scriptures dont' say things were the same, au contraire. YHWH"s knows more than we do. Will translate more later. C'est genial!
Imaginons qu'il y aie eu un déluge mondial... Imaginons, l'eau qui tombe de la main de Dieu est ajouté à la quantité d'eau déjà présente. Si on imagine ajouter de l'eau sur l'entière surface d'une sphère (plusieurs milliards de metres cubes),, la question suivante se pose. Où va l'eau ensuite? On reclaque des doigts et tout redevient normal.... ou on attend que cela décante... si le 2eme cas est exacte, alors il a fallu attendre et attendre et attendre longtemps pour ça!!!
Presumably you speak some English, since you seem to understand what this video is saying. Please don't respond in English, though, as I will enjoy the challenge of being able to figure out what you said in French! :-) (I'm not ready to reply back in French, though.)
There are no fountains of the deep, it is a mistranslation of water springing upward from the horizon earth. The ocean gulf could not be seen from the ark though built in a port city and so as the water came up it appeared to surround the ark from all directions as if rising up from the ground. It was first seen on all the horizons. This is NOT spring water, nor is there any water in the mantle.
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
Astral impact Julian 2370bc Nov 20 dated 2-10-600 whose Julian Sothic anniversary (3x 1460 years, 3x 365 leap days) is 2011ad Gregorian December 3. just 54 days ago (7+40+7). Armenia observes it this coming Julian July 9 (G.July 22) from 552ad, as the Flood's rise of Little Ararat and conception of Noah's grandson Arpaxad via Shem Melchizedek's rejoicing.
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
So then the Maya predict Armageddon as 5200 years of 360 days (3114bc to 2012ad) and then say four worlds before Noahs Flood were also each 5200 years. This is not the proof of previous global Floods before Adam. This is why it is important that we not defend God with lies. When Jesus said I am Abram's God he intended to say God remembers Abram alive to bring back; he was not saying Abram is already alive in heaven.
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
Defend with truth, not anti-matter crap for Armageddon, nor pyramids by angels before the Flood. I condemn anyone sitting at the GB of WatchTower who thinks their lies are truth by who they are.
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
(cont) Because astronomer priests insisted year 2256am is the Flood, they caused confusion for those who said year 1996am began a new world with Peleg's death starting the rapid aging we now know experiencing ourselves. The Maya thus say the 3rd world ended in 3374bc(1996am) 260 years before Noahs Flood ended the 4th world in 3114bc(2256am) with us now in the 5th world.This is not the proper calculation of previous Floods before Adam; it is a screwup of religious new worlds after the real Flood
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
@scorpian8king The previous "worlds" of mythology are not the same as the actual previous worlds (global Floods before Adam where the ONE canopy got thinner and thinner in raining), but the actual Floods were baptized continents not the christening with rain. Myths of previous worlds come from 1996am and 2256am. The Flood is 1656am, but 1996am began deaths 700 years younger than Noah, while parents lived like gods 430-460 years until Nimrod died at age 500 when baby Judah was born. (cont)
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
Just because Egyptian government of 1290bc says the world began in 3090bc (Noahs Flood) it does not mean Egyptians lived before the global Flood 2370bc. It is a miscalculation. Egypt began in 2170bc with Giza. Its calendar is 2030bc July 17 (Persian Pamenot 1) not 2770bc July 17 (Thoth 1). So too with Chinese Flood 2953bc for Noah is not Chinese living before the true global 2370bc Flood.
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
As for figures, Greeks say the Flood in 2958bc is 2242am based on a 2957bc Marduk of 2243am. However, Marduk 2243am is Hamurabi's Marduk date 1791bc May 5, as well as Mars 13 years x360 days later as 2256am in 1778bc Feb 26. Egyptian 2256am is 1770bc May 13 (Pamenot new year) or 7th month THOTH on Nov 9.Thus NeoBabylon is wrong to think 2256am is Apraxad of 2945bc(Toth Aug 29) born 2 years after the Flood, (his Marduk new year is 2368bc Oct 1). Every false FLood has a false Marduk date.ASTRONOMY
JehovahsElijah 2 months ago
@JehovahsElijah you right the respective cultures have their problems. it is interesting, however, that not only has one (1) deluge occured since known 'myths,' history throughout the world, there has been five or even six before. The flood was the last occurance, when looking at theogonies of the "new World," one finds that there are a series of "worlds," which are gone through. Involving the calculations of stars but ALSO the obvious physical manifestations of changes on earth.
scorpian8king 6 days ago
The Gilgamesh epic is dated with the rebirth of Venus on April 26 of 2040bc and was then rewritten by king Amizaduga for the rebirth of Venus in 1645bc March 10 at which both events are Venus in Pisces and Mars opposite the sun doing its turnabout in Scorpio.(2040bc honors Noah being 930 like Adam,but all men Peleg's age 230 are old and weak headed for death)This is when Gilgamesh swears to get the answer from Noah. His 126-year rule as king is 2157-2031bc &ends on ALL SAINTS DAY Nov 1(year 944)
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
@JehovahsElijah Thanks for your information. It is as always, supremely fascinating.
JasonTryp 2 months ago
@JehovahsElijah This is highly the Scorpion king of Egypt because Egypt begins with 2170bc Giza pyramids and so 2040bc observes this planet Mars (as Scorpion king). Note that this is 130 years 2170-2040bc which is easily confused with Nimrod building Babel 130 years after the Flood 2370-2240bc. Narmer (Nimrod) gained his fame in Egypt in 2020bc when Noah died and he then created the HOUSE of kings (called The Pharaoh).
JehovahsElijah 6 days ago
I believe this means the bride must assemble 7 days, and that because Satan does exist, he will kill her the 7th day, she will be tried and killed legally in one day, (i guess they dont have Casey Anthony's lawyer), yet the very same day she dies, she will already appear as the whole bride all over the earth in locked rooms to her banned children telling them 40 days is it and to be in the mountains with all who go with them before that date or die.
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
For 7 days plus 40 days in 2011-2012, the Gregorian dates are +13 so Nov 20 is December 3 to Dec 10 to January 19. The Egyptian dates leap one day every 4 years so that in 33ad they were Palm Sunday March 29 plus 7 to Easter Sunday April 5 plus 40 to May 14 Ascension Day, so this is the last year Egyptian dates that match the 7 days Jesus packed his ark in 33ad, so that he could lift his church for 40 days from the death they entered, matching the same dates as Noahs packed ark 7 days this year
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
EGYPTIAN DATES RETURN THE LAST TIME, every 1460 years for only 4 years the dates of Egypt without leap day return to the same dates as they were in Julian calendar with leap days. The dates that fell on Nov 20 +7 = Nov 27 +40 = January 6 in 2370-2369bc returned in 909bc when king Pygmalion of Tyre demanded his sister drop gold into the sea to appease The Flood. Cousin to Jezebel, she faked it and bought land founding Carthage. 1460 years later in 552ad Armenia declares The Era, now January 2012
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
Ok so those people left the ark then almost ALL of them forgot god (at least the jewish version) and made up their own gods. I would think after a hudge thing like that and 1 family surviving, they would have more of a memory and would live in absolute fear of god and wat he would do if they fucked up again, but they didnt. and if thats not enough just look at australia explain that so it makes sense and NO because god wanted it that way or willed it that way in NO answer!!!!
shwank1968 7 months ago
@shwank1968 The aborigenes of Australia are related to the native peoples of India. Just look at the comparisons.
JasonTryp 6 months ago
@shwank1968 All cultures do fear a flood returning. In 747bc NeoBabylon miscalculated the Flood as 2947bc and fear 800 AD as being year 6000. Greeks miscalculated 2958bc and feared 800 AD. Hindu miscalculated 3102bc and feared 500 AD. In 1290bc Egypt miscalculated 3090bc as the Flood and feared 654 AD. Moslem miscaluclated 3122bc as the Flood and feared 622 AD as 6000. They felt that worshippiing planet calendars would make them ready for when the day comes. BUT lifestyle estructions amplify it
JehovahsElijah 2 months ago
I have a question about the flood!
Why didn't the Chinese die? Because they were there in China 6000 years ago, and never went away. They just went about their millenia completely unaware they were supposed to be drowning in a cataclysmic flood from which only a handful of people, none Chinese, survived. What's your explanation for the continued existence of China?
rkyeun 9 months ago
the date of the flood did not happen in 2370 BC because all civilizations started of after 3200 BC the Egypt civilization started in 3150 BC one of the earliest civilizations. so this date of 2370 BC is not compatible with history. i believe the flood was around 4000-3500 BC
danwazhere7 10 months ago
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danwazhere7 10 months ago
Yep I agree the flood happened. The problem with the world today is they don't want to accept it even though they cant find there missing fossils to claim there theory. Its like saying 1+1=2 that is not someones theory or saying 10 times 10 = 100 these are the facts. It has nothing to do with Christianity or religion, people are just stating what happened. There is in fact more proof for it happening than there is proof for 911 being carried out by Al quaeda.
MultiSpread 10 months ago
@MultiSpread It doesn't matter if you agree with a bronze age myth or not. Lots of people have believed various things over time. What can you provide evidence for? You seem to like math. How about we work with that, eh? iIve got 9 trillion cu meters of NaCl in just one rock formation that says the flood myth is just that. A myth. It's all about heat and math.
NorthForkFisherman 10 months ago
one love one GOD.......
simpsonsamp 1 year ago
Well, you're part way correct. It's a bible story. Just not true. No global flood. Basic geology shows a literal interpreation of genesis, esp. the Noachian flood bit, to be incorrect. Sorry, just the way it is.
NorthForkFisherman 1 year ago
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elijahovah 1 year ago
Your ark with a stupid outside staircase has been doctored by me to remove it. Further, regarding Babel to G.Pyramid, Noahs year 732 is 2240 BC Nov 18 and the 70 years to 2170 BC is 71 calendar years of 360 days; year 803 on Nov 11. (The equinox for 2370 BC is Oct 12, for 2240 BC Oct 11, for 2170 BC Oct 10 (all Greg.Sep 22)
elijahovah 1 year ago
Incidentally, your ark door on one picture is 3rd floor. The door was 2nd floor that's why a 15-cubit draft of 1.5 stories covered it and it was said jehovah sealed that door for the 150 days water was on it.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Child you asked for evidence. I now presented evidence, none of which is enough for you, as it was not enough for those drowning in the Flood either.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Source 2031 BC Nov 1 is year 944 and 1894 BC Nov 2 is year 1083.
Peleg died May 5 of 2030 BC and Nahor's Xmass suicide with Haran was May 5 of 2029 BC on Koyak 24 (Greeks claim Koyak 24/25 began Noah's 40 days in a Flood 2958 BC Dec 24/25). Kayak is a boat referring to 70-76 days of Sothis taking a boat underground to rise again with the sun.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Each event of Great Pyramid failure was bragged by other cities success such as Ur measured 291 years as 3600 new moons in 2078 BC. Thus the star Seth in the BIg Dipper failed and Osiris the moon glorified. In 1986 BC the Capricorn Saturnalia of planet Saturn with winter sun marked 13 orbits. In 1894 BC Damuzi-Marduk's 13 years marked Noah's year 1083 on All Souls Day Nov 2.
elijahovah 1 year ago
The great pyramid shaft was started in 2170 BC to measure every 100 years from the Flood (100x 360 versus 100x365 versus 100 plus 25 leap days). It took 275 years to build because its tradition thinks it was the tower of Bable falling in the 1st year (2240 BC versus Babylon 1894 BC). The shaft failed from star precession ever 92 years 2170-2078-1986-1894 BC resulting in three chambers.
elijahovah 1 year ago
So Jason? Have I drafted my apprentice for YouTube videos before Armageddon now strikes? Go to the BAS forum and grab all the charts.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Did you know that all 365-day calendars match exactly the 40 days of Jesus to Noah. Get a program; 2370 BC Nov 27 to 2369 BC Venus epiphany Jan 6 is the exact same dates as 33 AD Easter Sunday April 5 to Ascension Day May 15. Egyptian Parmuti 24 to Payni 4. Yezdezred's Amerdad 24 to Moher 4; Zoroaster Amerdad 19 to Sherever 29; Persian Parmuti 19 to Pakon 29.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Japanese miscalculated Flood as 3060 BC is because of a false 30-year Saturn (690 years) which is actually 29.5 years, two orbits of 59 years which can appear as 60 years in 360 days. Compare 10,775 days (29.5 Julian) to Saturn 10,763 days to 10,800 days. Ur ruled 177 years or 6 orbits but its 60-orbit Saturnalia are not 1770 years from Nimrod's death at 500 in 1770 BC; just 1768 years.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Fountains of the great deep is another misunderstanding. Water up and out from the earth (ground, soil, land) is tsunami coming from the horizon. There is no water in mantle lava magma other than ocean water in the fault cracks that steams from volcanoes. Two miles of water is not created in one single year.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Don't be false Creationists who think the layers of the Grand Canyon were laid down only by the one-year Flood & hardened & then carved. One-year Floods from astral impact brought the land up in layers creating continents that FLOAT on lava magma mantle solid until fractured again, & melting a mile deep under the crust, creating a magma tsunami plunging all land by 1 mile while ocean floors rise bulging up 1 mile, putting land surface at ocean floor level under 2 miles of water.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Wrong to say disaster never before occurring nor again.Only one while man was alive; but asteroids have hit since creation of Earth before its ocean formed,the method continuing to hit making land rise day 3.
elijahovah 1 year ago
Why dont you go to the BAS forum and do some YOUTUBE videos for my work, ELIJAH.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
Jehovah proves the maximum depth of Flood is 2 miles, last time all going under, this time not. They were wrong to think all the water was from the 40-foot water canopy. Can they be wrong, and not know? Noah told Gilgamesh yes he knew the flood, could see it coming, but did not know short life, nor saw it coming. Short life is caused by C14 in DNA.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
Jehovah proves the maximum depth of Flood is 2 miles, last time all going under, this time not. They were wrong to think all the water was from the 40-foot water canopy. Can they be wrong, and not know? Noah told Gilgamesh yes he knew the flood, could see it coming, but did not know short life, nor saw it coming. Short life is caused by C14 in DNA.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
JasonTryp? There is no continuation of preFlood. The pre-Flood city foundation floors of Larsa were found by Noah's post-Flood descendents and used to build a post-Flood Larsa. Just as man cities after Armageddon will have ruins after this coming Flood.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
King Gilgamesh ruled 126 years (2157-2031 BC). Noah's new year 944 falls on Halloween All Saints Year when people begin to die 700 years short. For 10 years Noah is called Utu-Napishtim dying in 2021 BC on Dec 24 xmas eve. Gilgamesh very old like Peleg was dying at a mere 240. The story is older than the Xisuthros story tho Xisuthros tablets are older than Gilgamesh tablets. The 40-day seance with Xisuthros ended on 2020 BC Feb 2 beng Thoth 24 (Zoroaster xmas Deen 24).
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
Babel was also founded in year 130 after the Flood; Novv 18 of 2240 BC is 128 years after 2368 BC Oct 1 (130x 360 days). It marks ten of 13 years (6 orbits of Mars) known as Damuzi the calendar Leader before becoming called Marduk in 2009 BC. Narmer (Nimrod) and Peleg had left their fathers Cush and Eber in Kish where they were raised and headed 5 miles west to build Babel where Peleg had an argument and left to build Ur.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
The Sumerians begin with Ur which was founded in year 130 after the Flood. Built as a house by Peleg Mesanipada in 2239 BC (carbon dates it as 7000 BC). Then 32 years later he gave his whole house to his son Reu Aanipada to rule as an elder for 80 years until 2127 BC and Meskiag-Nannar took rule because in 243 years Venus returns to exact positions (2370-2127 BC). Nannar means great mother or grandma so this proves nannar was Venus before it was the moon.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
The Maya started at Volcano Cosiguino in 1314 BC on July 1 at and headed up river to build Copan in 1313 BC. (marked by the star Sirus.) Mayan 3114 BC is creation of current world by Noah's Flood. It is a miscalculation believing that the 180 solar leap days of 744 years (2370-1626 BC) made a full circle 744 years earlier as 3114 BC. Using the global disaster of 1513 BC as year 1600 (4x400) proves they did not exist before then.
JehovahsElijah 1 year ago
The Egyptians were around in 5000 BC, why didn't the get killed?
Different religion?
gregrutz 1 year ago
Yawn. Old news and debunked in so many places it's not even funny anymore. When YECs can provide a rational explanation to what is really seen in the rock record, including the many deep deposits of caliches, anhydrites, and dessication formation found in the crust, then maybe they'll be worth listening to. Points for putting the subject matter together, but it's still a fairy story.
NorthForkFisherman 1 year ago
Nice movie, silly story.
lizazoon 1 year ago
My hopes were disappointed in the lack of content in this video. You should also doctor up false drawings like those that put steps on the outside of the ark. The account clearly signifies a 2nd floor door by saying God sealed it. This means the door was covered by water , which 15 cubits would do that half way. If text makes the greatest presentation, there is so much more about 100 times than presented here. This includes:
JehovahsElijah 2 years ago
40 ft rain 1/2 inch per hr for 40 days releasing double pressure upon sea level & normal pressure 14.5 lbs immediately under the water vapor layer (ice in space reflects 75%). Land crust collapses from mantle meltdown 2 miles UNDER continents flowing out to ocean floor plates at a rate of 40 ft every mid continent moonrise & moonset which lift the ocean floor 1 mile high for 5 months at a rate of 20 feet every mid ocean high tide. It takes 8 months to drain the Ararat valley around the mountain.
JehovahsElijah 2 years ago
The 1st Chinese day of 60-day cycle ends 40d of Noah's Flood on 2369BC Jan 6 the M.E & western epiphany of Venus in Aquarius as date 3-27 & ends 40 days on 2020BC Feb 2 as 5-27 after Noah's death again with the Chinese epiphany of Venus in Aquarius. (KiahTse /JiaZi)
JehovahsElijah 2 years ago
I just meant to do an introductary video towards the topic. With basic key elements of the story.
JasonTryp 2 years ago
What evidence do you have for the story you just make up?
gregrutz 1 year ago
if i showed you a seal and a porpoise, then said i turned the seal into a porpoise would you consider it proof. there is no proof that any species of animal has very turned into another species animal. only proof that there are many species of animal. Dogs have been bred for 10s of thousands of years but no one has ever bred a new species of dof or any other animal for that matter.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
there was an interference preventing them from detecting gravity waves. this was predicted by scientists who said that the interference from the pixilation of matter would creat interference in the detector. the search for gravity waves provided evidence that supported the theory of a simulation.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
imagine a little boy looking out the window for the first time, and thinking his little neighborhood is all there is. We are like that little boy. have you heard of moore's law? in 1958 Moore said transistors in an integrated circut would double approximately every two years. an idea that wasn't received very well at the time. now it doesn't seen so crazy. according to moore's law we will create an intelligence greater much than our own within the next 100 years. imagine what will come in 500.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Moore's law will fail in a couple of years. We are reaching the limits of silicium based chips. If we double it up again, your pc will melt.
The next step is quantum computers. And that thing will trigger a new industrial revolution. Today, silicium based power houses need appr 1000 years to crack an nicely encrypted key. A quantum computer would do it in less then a split second.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
"Moore's law will fail in a couple of years."
"The next step is quantum computers."
which is it Will moore's law fail or is there a next step?
Look it up someone has always said Moore's law would fail, and there has always been a next step.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Moore's law says processing power will double every year. This is allready slowing down today. Quantum computers ARE the next step, but we have a long way to go there. Don't expect them to be consumer devices the next decade. At this point, quantum processing technology hasn't been able to do much more then 7+8=15. When this computer is attained though, it will not "double" current power. it will multiply by a factor of several thousands. But enough about moore, it's not relevant.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
outside of our universe probably lies an ocean of universes. weCAN say for a certainty that our universe came from somewhere. It did not form from nothing. We know that is impossible. nothing can form from nothing. a tremendous power must have been involved in the making of our universe. imagine what that must look like. imagine how old that must be. imagine the possibility for life to exist beyond our universe. imagine the age of that life. imagine the knowledge that must exist beyond our own.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
"imagination" does not constitute good science.
And nobody claims the universe came from nothing. The big bang is not an "explosion" like you probably believe, it is seen as an expansion. Matter/energy can't be created or destroyed. So saying that at one point (before the expansion) there was nothing is absurd.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
"explosion" means rapid expansion. the expansion of the universe was so rapid it moved outward faster than the speed of light.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Expansion is not the same as explosion.
An explosion triggers an expansion, but an expansion doesn't need to be the result of an explosion.
But I'm not afraid to say that we don't know what the big bang was all about. We know it happened, we don't know what triggered it. Saying "god dun it" is no better then saying "unicorns dun it". Speculation and this "god-of-the-gaps" fallacies are not to be taken seriously.
dxrocker69 2 years ago 2
Dude... the only evidence for a global flood is actual factual material evidence of a global flood in the geological record. Such things are very easily recognised. There is NO evidence of a global flood whatsoever. There is evidence of local floods left and right (especially as the ice ages came to an end between 100.000 and 10.000 years ago - where do you think all those myths came from?), but there is zero evidence of a global simultanous flood. Zero. Myths and hear say won't cut it.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Again, hear say and myths won't cut it. The bible is not evidence. The bible is the CLAIM. The HYPOTHESIS, wich you would need to validate with DATA OUTSIDE of the source of the claim. A global simultanous flood is a serious claim, a scientific hypothesis even, since it is testable. It makes predictions. The simplest one being that we should see traces from this flood in the geological record EVERYWHERE. However, no such traces exist. => FAIL.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
It should seem obvious by the 21st century that we are certainly not the only life in this universe.
Wouldn't you agree?
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
No, I wouldn't agree.
I would agree if formulated without that "certainly". As in: "there's probably life in some form elsewhere in the universe. And this life might be of a certain intelligence and it might be even more advanced then us technologically".
Adding that "certainly" is not correct. You can't speak in absolutes about unkown things. But probability tells us that "life" is probably found elsewhere in the universe. what's your point?
dxrocker69 2 years ago
My point is that we are the whos that horton heard in the speck. the world outside our own is so much larger than we are we can no longer think of ourselves as the center of the universe, or the only universe for that mater.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Correct. Again, what's your point?
dxrocker69 2 years ago
my point is it is much more likely that there is a god than it is that there isn't. so much more likely that the chance there is no god is negligible. not even worth mentioning. It is safe to say God is a certainty.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
And how did you arrive at that conclusion? You can't just "state" this, you need to validate it with arguments. In the end, it's the arguments (and the correctness thereof) wich gives credibility to the statement. The statement itself is useless and void without those arguments. So share those arguments please.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
Moore's law needs no argument. It's not call a law for nothing. Many people/teachers think a scientific theory is a law but a theory is just that a theory. It may or may not have supporting evidence like for instance the very new theory that our universe is a simulation. It of course does have supporting evidence. it has been proven that there is granulation of matter. this came as a result of a very sensitive instrument being used to detect gravity waves.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Moore's law is not a scientific law. It's a business practice. You have clearly no clue about the scientific method.
In science, a theory is HIGHER then a law.
It goes (in level of importance in SCIENCE): observation, fact, law, THEORY.
Scientific theories are not "guesses" or whatever dude. It's not the same as "theory" in for example criminology. Theory is science is the explanation of the data as well as the laws. Theory is of HIGHER value then laws.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
To illustrate with gravity...
A law of gravity states that if an object with a certain mass is captured by a gravitational field, it is attracted to it. That's a law. A universal statement. Gravitational Theory however EXPLAINS WHY that is the case. A theory is science is not "just a theory". A theory in science is the BEST possible explanation of the data. It explains the how and the why, wich forms the basis of new technology.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
We have no idea why, that is what makes it a theory. Why it gravity so weak? Where does gravity come from?
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
Again: you have NO CLUE.
When in SCIENCE something is called a Theory, it means that the theory accounts for ALL the data. Such theories make predictions about what else we should see/find in the world. It remains a Theory UNTIL it is proven wrong (for example: when one of the predictions don't check out, when it is thus falsified). A "theory" for wich there is NO evidence is not called a theory but a Hypothesis.
Learn about science before talking bullshit please.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
So I will repeat my question, since you actually didn't answer it at all:
WHAT are your arguments for the statement you made? HOW did you arrive at this conclusion? You have given me none.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
If you accually asked a question I could give a better answer. If you will look a little closer you would see i stated lots of things. Which one are you referring to. The statement you made could refer to any one of the many statements i made.
o0lBobl0o 2 years ago
" It is safe to say God is a certainty. "
==> now will you please answer the questions:
What are your arguments for this statement?
How did you arrive at this conclusion?
dxrocker69 2 years ago
just because hundreds of myths were found doesnt make it true. its still a coincidence until the christians can prove otherwise. and that will never happen, so you can't call the flood true.
LightningH4nd 2 years ago
It's no coincidence. It's simply that the rise of greater cooperation within tribes, development of language, rise of agriculture etc coinceded with the last stages of the Ice Age. Off course there were floods. There was never one huge global flood off course... But almost ever civilisation has its flood story. Just like a lot of civilisations have their volcano and earth quake story. Today, these aren't all that impressive anymore since we know what they are... in those days though...
dxrocker69 2 years ago
It's not just Christians. Hebrew legends, Babylonian (Gilgamesh Epic), Egyptian, Chinese, etc.
Extinct animals such as the Wooly Mammoth have been consistently found when intact with vegitation in their mouth and to have died suddenly in flood like situations and to have been frozen quickly. That is just one example. There is the mid-atlantic rift in the middle of the atlantic ocean that many point to as a consequence of a possible asteroid impact and release of flood waters.
JasonTryp 2 years ago
Please present one academic, peer reviewed scientific paper that proports to show evidence for the great deluge using fossilized Wooly Mammoths. In case you are not sure, this request is rhetorical as no such papers exist.
Hazardous117 2 years ago
@JasonTryp The mid-atlantic rift is a rift, where sea floor spreading takes place, lava comes out. It is proof of plate tectonics not a release of water.
gregrutz 1 year ago
Amazing that the Egyptian, Chinese, & Aztec (just to name a few) civilizations which all existed prior to 2370 BCE were not obliterated. Amazing!
Amazing that the sealed-up boat carried sufficient food and fresh water for a years voyage. And the incredible amount of manure, etc.
Amazing!
abacusGuy 2 years ago
The Egyptian, Chinese & Aztec civilizations began after the flood and where just a continuation of sorts of the pre-flood civilazation mixed with Babylonian pagan beliefs as the Sumerian civilization was the first major one after the flood. The proof is in the pudding. All these civilizations have distorted accounts of the original flood story. The ark was about 100 years or so in the making. Sufficient time to store food and figure out problems such as manure, etc.
JasonTryp 2 years ago
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dxrocker69 2 years ago
ps: bringing forward that much people from Noah's little family in such short time is simply biologically and mathematically impossible.
pps: there is not a single shred of geological evidence
ppps: noah's ark is nowhere to be found. pppps: if the ship was 100 years in the making... how old did Noah become then? 150? His family as well then obviously.
ppppps: there's so much irational stuff in your post, it ain't even funny.
dxrocker69 2 years ago
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And you consider it to be plausible that not only did Noah's family (you know, the handfull of "chosen once" who were "allowed" to survive) repopulate the WORLD bringing forward several big civilisations and thousands of tribes, but that these also went back to pagan religions? Even without ANY trace at all of the monotheistic religion of Noah? Do you really think this could have happened within 100 years? A miracle on THAT scale just ignored? SERIOUSLY?
dxrocker69 2 years ago
Considering that artifacts of those civilizations have been conclusively dated to before 2370 BCE I dont know where you are getting your information, besides the bible of course. Also how does the single ark carrying all surviving life, besides those creatures that managed to survive in the world covering ocean, account for the amazing diversity we observe in life today?
Hazardous117 2 years ago
@JasonTryp The Sumerians were 6000 BC, read a history book.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@abacusGuy Kish was founded 2270bc;Babel was founded Nov 18 of 2240bc;Giza Egypt was founded on Oct 12 of 2170bc; Noph Mizraim was founded on July 17 of 2030bc;The Pharaoh was created on July 14 of 2020bc.It was a house of kings, 1st dynasty 2nd 3rd 4th and 6th 7th & 8th.the 9th &10th too young to yet belong to it. The first kings BEFORE The Pharaoh were not the 1st dynasty but 5th dynasty and were all dead by 2030bc.Hindu did not leave Ur until 1900bc and did not leave Babylon until 1625bc.
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
@abacusGuy 2. The Hindu celebrated 1200 years in 700bc. The Chinese celebrated 600 years of Ur in 1437bc (600x 360 days) are 592 years. And then mistook it as 1200 years back to 2637bc. The Chinese Noah's Flood is 2953bc because it thinks Ur's year 2233bc as 720 years until global comet disaster in 1513bc was preceded by an identical 720 years before Ur. China was wrong, the 137 Julian years are sothic (139x 360 days) and 180 missing days are not leap days but 36 years of Peleg missing 5 days
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
@abacusGuy 3. The Maya reached Volcano Cosigina on July 1 of 1314bc and then founded Copan on July 1 of 1313bc. But their origin is from Ur 2030bc, the Mari Syria (circa 2048bc) until dragged to Babylon in 1762-1761bc, these Maya left Babylon in 1625bc, most with Hindu, some to Egypt. The Maya were not accepted by Hindu who had already been in India since the fall of Ur in 1900bc, so they moved on... as China 1437bc, the Maya timeline matches dates of Egypt and dates of Japan.
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
@abacusGuy 4. The lie frequently drifts to become true, and the truth drifts to be lie. Example August in Leo was truth 2000 years ago, now August is Cancer and September is Leo. So what was once true is now lie. The opposite happens also, lie becomes truth. The Egyptian month (Thoth or Tot) is Mayan Pop or Phoph. But in 1313bc Maya found Thoth (Pop) to be on July 18 and instead insisted the rise of Sothis at Copan was a July 1 Pop 1. This was claimed to go back to Noahs death in 2021bc Dec 25.
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
@abacusGuy 5. Noahs name Utu-Napishtim means Sun of great many days, and his death was regarded as his being reborn into heaven. BUT it takes 1460 years for the January 6 solstice of 2020bc to drift back 12 days so that it becomes December 25 from 560bc to 521bc for Persian Magi to declare the memorial of Noahs death as the reborn winter sun. This creates the lie saying Noah died on the winter solstice because during Cyrus & Darius Dec 25 is the solstice for 100 years.
JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
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JehovahsElijah 6 months ago
The problem is still the same if you have a different earth. however if there was no water at all on the earth why not! I believe with physical aspect, and water in a glass does not disappear in 3 sec it self. If you increase the volume of water by billion fo billion m3 , you can't think that disappear in few weeks especially if the entire Earth is below thousand meters of water (because arch is supposed to be on mountain). Waiting for your explanation of sacred text. have good week end!
MattleSystem 2 years ago
Si vous imaginez un peu la situation, que l'eau disparaisse assez vite pour pouvoir créer certains canyons, il faut que ce soit très très rapide!!! or la terre n'est pas une baignoire de laquelle on enlève le bouchon d'évacuation!!! Alors un déluge mondial est irrationnellement impossible! Une très grosse inondation régionale par contre est bien plus raisonnable, puisque nous en avons encore aujourd'hui! Et quoi de mieux qu'un bateau pour y échapper! Vraiment rien d'exceptionnel!
MattleSystem 3 years ago
I am just learning French but I get the idea you have some questions, for example about where all the water went. That is a good question, if I understand correctly. I will try to get back to you, hopefully this week. I need to look up some of the French words I don't know yet. Bonjour!
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Ok, this is what I figured out so far, I hope! You're saying the eath is not like a tub where you can pull hte plug & the water goes down rapidly. You think a huge regional flood, such as seen in our own time, is more reasonalbe. You are going by the belief in uniformity, i.e. the world was as it is today, & so should be expected to "behave" as the world today. Scriptures dont' say things were the same, au contraire. YHWH"s knows more than we do. Will translate more later. C'est genial!
LoricaLady 2 years ago
Imaginons qu'il y aie eu un déluge mondial... Imaginons, l'eau qui tombe de la main de Dieu est ajouté à la quantité d'eau déjà présente. Si on imagine ajouter de l'eau sur l'entière surface d'une sphère (plusieurs milliards de metres cubes),, la question suivante se pose. Où va l'eau ensuite? On reclaque des doigts et tout redevient normal.... ou on attend que cela décante... si le 2eme cas est exacte, alors il a fallu attendre et attendre et attendre longtemps pour ça!!!
MattleSystem 3 years ago
Presumably you speak some English, since you seem to understand what this video is saying. Please don't respond in English, though, as I will enjoy the challenge of being able to figure out what you said in French! :-) (I'm not ready to reply back in French, though.)
LoricaLady 2 years ago