For "me" it feels a lot like being lucid within a dream. There is "me" doing whatever I do but there's a sense of that "me" happening within a dream. And the dream is seen and recognized as a dream. But there's no one recognizing, there's just recognition. It can feel horrible when one initially realizes this and when the ego creeps back. I think that's how the "Dark Night of the Soul" comes about. In reality everything's just as fine as can be.
@WhatisBuddah It may sound that way to you, but in my experience it can be extremely frightening when you actually get a real touch of what he's talking about. To the individual it is death.
I like this concept, but honestly, if you decide to wear a red shirt "you have decided as an individual or as an illusion" to wear that shirt. Even if you don't exist, you do exist if you "choose" to believe you exist, so really, any being can choose to either feel like they matter or they can opt out and think that they are just billions of years of high tech biological darwinism. Either way you look at life, it isn't wrong. I choose to look at life as a journey as its entertaining to me.
@TeknoFunk There is no "you" to look at life. Once you experience what he is talking about there is simply nobody and there never was. Being is just being. Life is just "living".
what a clear explanation - this "no control" at first sounded yikes but how freeing it is, what a relief! But theres no one to be relieved - funny...no one and never was!
@Mike3gdc Mooji is okay. I've listened to ten or so videos. I prefer UG over all of them- he appeals to my non conformist personality. Mooji is too much of a softie for me.
Think of a genie that morphs into people and things and decides what they do and what happens. Some people know they are the genie's morphs (i.e. that they are really the genie) some have clarity of this concept but don't sense it; other morphs think they are 'real people' with free will. Imagine the genie is all there is and that it exists in no space and no time (it creates those concepts too) It is all there is. It is writing this note. It is also reading this note. Sorry if this scares you!
@swingtrade2 - Who wants to know? Who is there to care? Of course there is an "apparent" you and me, but It is virtually impossible to discuss non dualist concepts without slipping into dualist language occasionally. Otherwise every other word in every sentence would have to be something like "apparent". Imagine Neo and Morpheous in the Matrix film saying things like "Fly that apparent helicopter over that apparent building!" It would get silly.
2 conscious tv interviews directly confilct with the notion that "awakening" occurs spontaneously to someone who has nevr seeked at all- francis lucille and elie-jackson bear.
Tony himself was an ardent seeker himself as was jeff foster both who now say that its sekking which is the problem.
I wanted to say the same thing. There is no my or yours.....there is only awareness of of socalled oxen1957 saying 'my search is over'. In other words.....the source expressing itself as typing a sentence beginning with my. In other words....duality. A me and a source.
For "me" it feels a lot like being lucid within a dream. There is "me" doing whatever I do but there's a sense of that "me" happening within a dream. And the dream is seen and recognized as a dream. But there's no one recognizing, there's just recognition. It can feel horrible when one initially realizes this and when the ego creeps back. I think that's how the "Dark Night of the Soul" comes about. In reality everything's just as fine as can be.
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@WhatisBuddah It may sound that way to you, but in my experience it can be extremely frightening when you actually get a real touch of what he's talking about. To the individual it is death.
winstono75 4 months ago
Fucking Yes!
orignalkous 7 months ago
I like this concept, but honestly, if you decide to wear a red shirt "you have decided as an individual or as an illusion" to wear that shirt. Even if you don't exist, you do exist if you "choose" to believe you exist, so really, any being can choose to either feel like they matter or they can opt out and think that they are just billions of years of high tech biological darwinism. Either way you look at life, it isn't wrong. I choose to look at life as a journey as its entertaining to me.
TeknoFunk 1 year ago
@TeknoFunk There is no "you" to look at life. Once you experience what he is talking about there is simply nobody and there never was. Being is just being. Life is just "living".
talkinghead22 7 months ago
wish i lived in london.
andthereisntone 1 year ago
what a clear explanation - this "no control" at first sounded yikes but how freeing it is, what a relief! But theres no one to be relieved - funny...no one and never was!
yogisrock 1 year ago
beautiful....anyone who wants to dig deeper,search for "Mooji" here in youtube.he is the master at "I" and "mind" dissolution.a true teacher.
Mike3gdc 1 year ago
@Mike3gdc Mooji is okay. I've listened to ten or so videos. I prefer UG over all of them- he appeals to my non conformist personality. Mooji is too much of a softie for me.
No3Patriot 1 year ago
Think of a genie that morphs into people and things and decides what they do and what happens. Some people know they are the genie's morphs (i.e. that they are really the genie) some have clarity of this concept but don't sense it; other morphs think they are 'real people' with free will. Imagine the genie is all there is and that it exists in no space and no time (it creates those concepts too) It is all there is. It is writing this note. It is also reading this note. Sorry if this scares you!
gainsbourg66 2 years ago 7
@gainsbourg66 who is there to be scared?
swingtrade2 1 year ago
@swingtrade2 - Who wants to know? Who is there to care? Of course there is an "apparent" you and me, but It is virtually impossible to discuss non dualist concepts without slipping into dualist language occasionally. Otherwise every other word in every sentence would have to be something like "apparent". Imagine Neo and Morpheous in the Matrix film saying things like "Fly that apparent helicopter over that apparent building!" It would get silly.
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66 agreed
swingtrade2 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
Awesome, awesome, awesome analogy, beloved Genie!
Namaste
-Genie ;-)
SimonNight30 1 year ago
@SimonNight30 - thanks Simon
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
2 conscious tv interviews directly confilct with the notion that "awakening" occurs spontaneously to someone who has nevr seeked at all- francis lucille and elie-jackson bear.
Tony himself was an ardent seeker himself as was jeff foster both who now say that its sekking which is the problem.
fizywig 2 years ago 2
the one seeking doesnt exist dont you get it
gefftom 2 years ago
Well said gefftom, how can an individual seek the individual? Its like looking for the pencil that is in you're hand, but you can not find it!
Beuatiful G
nuttymanyelismate 2 years ago
"Everything goes on in free fall." I like that. God is the bottomless abyss.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago
Oh shoot... and I who thought I was more or less close to liberation;) :D
JonasAbrahamLind 3 years ago
My serch is over, thanks to you Tony..
oxen1957 3 years ago 2
mine not hahahaha hehehe oh sorry there is no me searching just searching or not lalala
segenbogen 3 years ago 5
Segen,
I wanted to say the same thing. There is no my or yours.....there is only awareness of of socalled oxen1957 saying 'my search is over'. In other words.....the source expressing itself as typing a sentence beginning with my. In other words....duality. A me and a source.
KarameloKaramelo 2 years ago