I still want to see the place before it turnes to shit....
Mubarak was an asshole but he helps keeping stabillity in the middle east, now these "Islamic Brotherhood" shits will run the country and chaos will be unleashed.
well said my brother,this corrupt garbage dictator been in power for over 30yrs with a net worth of around $70billion dollars can you believe this crap $70billion of the egyptians people dollars ,
The problem is that the Egyptian people right now, according to the poles, tend to support fundamental Islam, view women as possessions, and are in favor of punishing adultery by stoning (for the women), rape by stoning (both the rapist and the raped), and theft by chopping off people's hands... I have a feeling it's going to end up like Iran again.
That being said, I understand that Mubarak has not done right by his people, but I am afraid of who will replace him.
@Jonstern1983 That is a genuine concern. And it's one of the downsides of democracy. Once it's in place we can't be certain or control what the will of those people will be. I guess they will have to work through it like we did. Our history in the US is full of bad decisions and poor choices. Unfair treatment of minorities and foreigners. We slowly outgrew a lot of it. I'm thinking we have to let them do the same.
@rationalwarrior True, I just hope that they don't settle into a pre '79 mentality and try to invade Israel and give safe haven to terrorists who wish to destroy the west, or if they do, they outgrow it a lot more quickly than the US has outgrown it's own prejudices.
@Jonstern1983 My understanding is that the majority oppose having an islamist government. The highest percentage I've seen is 40% (also seen polls with lower figures), and that is only on the strict condition that they are not anti-democratic. Where did you get the information from?
@RadicalSyndicate Yeah it's funny cause for all the excuses some people have been making the situation over there gets worse and worse. And it also becomes clear just how corrupt Mubarak's regime is. Notice how there wasn't any violence until his so-called "supporters" came out there. Now their over there abusing journalists hurting their fellow citizens and all of that crap. Those 6 people are being willfully ignorant in my opinion. The US needs to stop backing these dictators.
@VitaVeritasVictoria Yeah the new layout sucks ass. LOL You're so silly 3V. If I go over there I have to first get pass all of the molotov cocktails to even get to him.
@bxjam85 LOL I wouldn't hold my breath! I have a feeling he would disagree if he did. This is just my 2 cents worth. Since when has my opinion ever changed things LOL
@HitMeQuick Ok troll you have exceeded your 2 comment limit. The sad thing is that if you had entered the conversation with a legitimate disagreement instead of a retarded sarcastic insult I might have respected your opinion. Now begone. I shall erase you from memory.
The reality your talking about isn't millions of people. The most was 250 thousand. The day after his speech there are only about 10 thousand left. Most all of the Egyptian people want him to finish his term and retire. How do I know this? I live in Cairo and My wife is Egyptian and this is the feeling on the street. The news media is blowing this shit out of proportion.
@clriales Ok. Not to discredit your personal experience but what was all of that shown on the news footage? Who were the people riding on camel back beating people with whips? I even saw someone get set on fire with a molotov cocktail. It looks like complete chaos. Even Anderson Cooper from CNN was attacked. Or is the media blowing that out of proportion as well? Cause if so those of us outside of Egypt need to know that this isn't really news worthy.
If Mubarak actually gave a shit about his people or his country he would have left on day one. His actions have made it clear that his only concern is power and that he will do whatever he needs to do to keep it.
This is some of the most incisive political commentary of the year so far and not at all some bloke who occasionally watches the news jumping on the latest bandwagon despite only finding out last Tuesday where Egypt was on a map.
If there was such a thing as a United States mass debate, surely this guy would win every time with his sense of perspective and thorough understanding of the issues.
Rational Warrior for President? I should fucking Co-co America. He's the nuts.
@HitMeQuick This is the most thought provoking comment ever posted under a youtube video by far and not at all some asshole troll with no videos cause he lacks the courage of his convictions to present them in the arena of ideas. You're so much better then all of the other commentators who only engaged me in conversation with what they really felt instead of displaying mindless pointless sarcasm. If life were a pair of underwear you'd be the shit stain.
@rationalwarrior Your cage is rattled easily isn't it flower? It's nice to know you don't take yourself too seriously anyway. (In case you hadn't noticed this is the comment section, where you have invited people to pass comment). And if you seriously think youtube is an arena of ideas, why is the most watched video always a farting cat? And even if it was an arena of ideas, your "get the fuck out" tirade is hardly a new or novel one is it now? Mmm. What next? Your thoughts on the West Bank?
@HitMeQuick LOL My cage is rattled because I spoke up for myself. In other words you expect to be able to comment (with no relevant content) and not get replied to. You can dish it out but can't take it. It's also funny how people are quick to dismiss youtube place where ideas are exchanged. If you think that all this forum is good for is videos about farting cats why are you watching a video that isn't about that? Admit your only purpose here is to troll.
theres only one reason i dont really want mubarak to leave, because he is allied with israel, and most eygptions really hate israel, so if tehre is a democracy there, probebly the peace treaty will be broken and maybe even war again :S
I just imagined Mubarak watching youtube videos, thinking: 'France, not a bad idea'
The problem is that the Tunesian top dog got the people's gold out (1.5 ton), but when Mubarrak tried that 19 shipments of gold were intercepted. I think he does not want to leave without the loot of 30 years tax slave harvesting.
I love black people. They're the only race that can really say what they want to say. Everyone else needs to be politely disrespectful. LOL. Great video. No bullshit. Right to the point. GTFO
Those guys on camels turned out were the cops. They were told to take those camels into the thick of it or they would not be payed. A seriously cheap tactic by those in charge.
Rationwarrior - Sup dude. First time visiting your channel. What is... this all about exactly? I know that there are massive protests going on in Egypt etc. But what I don't know is why... exactly.
And I'd like to hear BOTH sides of the story before I show any support.
Obviously I want to side with the people but what has Mubarak done to incur this wrath?
@JayJayAbels Good question. Not only has he completely destroyed their economy but over these 30 years he's been brutal. His police have tortured and murdered thousands of Egyptian citizens who have criticized his regime. The most famous case was the kid Khaled Said. He was a vocal critic of the Mubarak regime and the police beat him to death. This is one of the things that sparked this whole thing. He gets billions in US foreign aid and gives it almost exclusively to his military.
Rationalwarrior if it was me over there trying to send a message to Mubarak. I'd want him live. Atleast long enough to for him to see his kids and grandkids mutalated on camera for him and any other dictator to get the message don't fuck with the people.
IF he were serious about staying around till September to ensure an orderly process I would have no problem with him staying till his term ends. I just don't believe him. How many people in his position leave quietly? The question now is.....what happens next? Who takes over. I'm concerned that radicals, who care nothing about democracy or civil rights, will take over by the power vaccum that will be created by this. Let's hope this ends well
HE BETTER HOPE 'HIS' PEOPLE DON'T CATCH HIM...HE WILL BE STRUNG UP AND CASTRATED FOR THE WORLD TO SEE. OTHER THAN THAT ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IS NOT PARTICIPATE...WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T EXIST...NEITHER DO CORPORATIONS. I SECOND YOUR NOTION RATIONAL WARRIOR. BLESS.
There is no doubt, Mubarak has fucked the country he was in charge of. So much so that I really don't see any good coming from a revolution to remove him. The risks lie in creating a political vacuum that others are only to willing to fill. If Egypt ends up with an Islamic theocracy, they there will be no more revolutions or civil unrest, they will be silenced via religious manipulation. If given the vote to choose, how many Egyptians would actually vote "against" an Islamic theocracy?
If they form a democratic government, in doing so they will be hated by other Islamic countries that see "democracy" as the problem of the world, if they form an Islamic government then they will (through humanitarian intentions) drop the border to Gaza, and after the media gets done with their "Berlin wall" routine, the reality is that the 'extremists' from Gaza will be let loose into the rest of the world to continue the jihad. Right or wrong either option looks pretty scary for Egyptians.
But in saying all that, Mubarak does need to get the fuck out of Egypt or straight into a court of law to be tried from being an enemy to his own state, treason.
@123backinyerface - Yes, scary...but isnt change that way? Nobody knows what is going to happen-not even the Egyptians. But, they must go forward and fight for what is theirs. This is history we are witnessing here, people.
A foreign correspondent on Norway's national tv-station said it quite aptly: "The people of Egypt are like the Nile. It flows calmly for a long time, and endures much, but when it overflows, it removes anything in its way" I really hope the Mubarak supporters won't spill more blood trying to avoid the inevitable.
Since Jan. 25th, 2011- the day the Egyptian Revolution began - 376 people have been killed. When one starts to weigh the weight of another human being's worth, I find it curious that we allow this so called "President" on a pedestal an excuse for so many deaths. Do we grant him this benefit because of his social rank or title? Is his 1 life actually worth more than the 376 people that have been slaughtered in peaceful protest to remove him from power?
@lucerfarul We allow it because Egypt is a strategic ally of ours in the middle east. We allow him to continue what he does so that he will continue to let us continue a ludacris war in the middle east.
john simpson of the BBC reckons that most of the "pro-mubarak" protestors are straight forward working class egyptians. remember guys, we are not in egypt.
The Muslim Brotherhood is the largest opposition group. They would like to install an Islamic theocracy to replace the secular govt that has been our ally over there. Yes, it would come down to what the people want, and Egypt is still a very religious country.
@CrossTheGrigori It's really sad. And it's not the military. It's his secret police and convicts that he let out of jail. It's a complete mess. It would have been great if he just stepped down. It would have been an inspiration to people all over the world. Instead he reacted true to form. Sad.
When rich people get old, it's the power they want more than anything. They can't seduce women anymore (only buy them), or compete athletically, and writing books is a lot of work, etc. So that leaves them with their little power games.
Mubarak will mobilize his thugs and try to intimidate the protesters, he's already closed banks and shops in an attempt to make life hard. I don't think the military will back him, but I don't think his pride will let him leave gracefully. He's shuffled his cabinet for show and the people aren't buying it.
@disrxt Right! He's got his thugs out there now. Riding by on horseback with whips and machetes. It's getting ugly and his pride is gonna make things worse. Just think, it started out so peaceful.
@CrossTheGrigori I think it already has escalated. It looks like he's got people out there committing violent acts trying to discourage the people and erode their resolve. I'm watching the footage now. They've even attacked members of the press. Throwing stones at each other. And all of this because he wouldn't step down.
@raverdeath100 I think they already decided. They want him to step down. He, however, doesn't really want to give up power. The power vacuum is a concern but I don't think the people would trade one dictator for another.
@rationalwarrior i agree with your sentiment, but i think there's an awful lot of people who want him to stay until september. Egypt going the way of Iraq is a big fear. Egypt is important, mubarak can't brazen it out like mugabe. the whole world's got too much at stake.
@raverdeath100 That probably is true but the overwhelming majority wants him to step down now. Plus according to reports by people there he is manufacturing the opposition to the protesters. Using out of uniform police, releasing convicts from prison etc. Typical dictator behavior when they are opposed by their masses. Egypt is important but he's handling this in a way that is far more harmful then helpful.
@rationalwarrior we both want the same outcome, democracy for everyone. but i'm thinking of the fall of communist east europe. funnily enough, totally ignored by the media when they look for past examples. but there, in most countries, the ruling communists stayed until the elections. the recent history of overthrowing dictators abruptly has led to disaster in most cases. extremists of all kinds love that sort of disruption.
@raverdeath100 That's very true. I just have the feeling he's trying to stack the deck. Reshuffle his cabinet and work it in such a way that his regime stays in power.
@rationalwarrior he's finished and i think he knows it. if the egyptians take their time and get this right, then i'm actually hopeful for the future of the middle east, for the first time in ages. great vids by the way mate, your a bonafide " straight talker ". peace.
He doesn't even need to leave the country. He just needs to step down. Is it odd to say I hope this can all be done peacefully? Probably hehe. I really do fear someone else coming in and messing things up... sort of like crossthegrigori is saying.
@tattooskin72 That's definitely a concern but I don't think the people would allow another dictator to come in and run the same game. They want real change.
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT You know....if that's what the people wanted I would support it as long as it's done using their rule of law. But in my opinion he's getting off easy and he should take it. It's getting real ugly over there.
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7MHD7 1 year ago
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7MHD7 1 year ago
Looks like he saw your video and took your advice.
KarthikSoun 1 year ago
I still want to see the place before it turnes to shit....
Mubarak was an asshole but he helps keeping stabillity in the middle east, now these "Islamic Brotherhood" shits will run the country and chaos will be unleashed.
ElijahKOTE 1 year ago
well said my brother,this corrupt garbage dictator been in power for over 30yrs with a net worth of around $70billion dollars can you believe this crap $70billion of the egyptians people dollars ,
grumpyjamaican 1 year ago
The problem is that the Egyptian people right now, according to the poles, tend to support fundamental Islam, view women as possessions, and are in favor of punishing adultery by stoning (for the women), rape by stoning (both the rapist and the raped), and theft by chopping off people's hands... I have a feeling it's going to end up like Iran again.
That being said, I understand that Mubarak has not done right by his people, but I am afraid of who will replace him.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
@Jonstern1983 That is a genuine concern. And it's one of the downsides of democracy. Once it's in place we can't be certain or control what the will of those people will be. I guess they will have to work through it like we did. Our history in the US is full of bad decisions and poor choices. Unfair treatment of minorities and foreigners. We slowly outgrew a lot of it. I'm thinking we have to let them do the same.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago 2
@rationalwarrior True, I just hope that they don't settle into a pre '79 mentality and try to invade Israel and give safe haven to terrorists who wish to destroy the west, or if they do, they outgrow it a lot more quickly than the US has outgrown it's own prejudices.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
@Jonstern1983 My understanding is that the majority oppose having an islamist government. The highest percentage I've seen is 40% (also seen polls with lower figures), and that is only on the strict condition that they are not anti-democratic. Where did you get the information from?
bimblinghill 1 year ago
@bimblinghill watch?v=4SVrRSBWPgU&feature=feedu on youtube
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
@Jonstern1983 OK, I like to research other people's sources, but I'm not going to watch a 2 hour video.
bimblinghill 1 year ago
Well said, but I hope he leaves with only his shirt on his back. Bastards like him make me and the majority of this planet sick.
eckyspondoolie 1 year ago
Well spoken.
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
The people of egypt might not want him dead, but I do.
daemonowner 1 year ago
Mubarak said earlier "If I leave today there will be choas"
im sure he would like to gtfo but u know, there might be riots in the streets, bloodshed, fires and all kinds of ill shit if he did that..
and we can all agree no1 would want that.. mubarak is basically the voice of the common man, shame hes a cunt
Henrythecamel 1 year ago
i think some people hit the dislike button just to be assholes
RadicalSyndicate 1 year ago
@RadicalSyndicate Yeah it's funny cause for all the excuses some people have been making the situation over there gets worse and worse. And it also becomes clear just how corrupt Mubarak's regime is. Notice how there wasn't any violence until his so-called "supporters" came out there. Now their over there abusing journalists hurting their fellow citizens and all of that crap. Those 6 people are being willfully ignorant in my opinion. The US needs to stop backing these dictators.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@VitaVeritasVictoria Yeah the new layout sucks ass. LOL You're so silly 3V. If I go over there I have to first get pass all of the molotov cocktails to even get to him.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
thanks rational warrior
10MagicMourad10 1 year ago
@10MagicMourad10 Your very welcome my friend.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
I wouldn't exactly be surprised if they did try to have him killed.
shrikechan 1 year ago
@bxjam85 LOL I wouldn't hold my breath! I have a feeling he would disagree if he did. This is just my 2 cents worth. Since when has my opinion ever changed things LOL
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@HitMeQuick Ok troll you have exceeded your 2 comment limit. The sad thing is that if you had entered the conversation with a legitimate disagreement instead of a retarded sarcastic insult I might have respected your opinion. Now begone. I shall erase you from memory.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
The reality your talking about isn't millions of people. The most was 250 thousand. The day after his speech there are only about 10 thousand left. Most all of the Egyptian people want him to finish his term and retire. How do I know this? I live in Cairo and My wife is Egyptian and this is the feeling on the street. The news media is blowing this shit out of proportion.
clriales 1 year ago
@clriales Ok. Not to discredit your personal experience but what was all of that shown on the news footage? Who were the people riding on camel back beating people with whips? I even saw someone get set on fire with a molotov cocktail. It looks like complete chaos. Even Anderson Cooper from CNN was attacked. Or is the media blowing that out of proportion as well? Cause if so those of us outside of Egypt need to know that this isn't really news worthy.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
If Mubarak actually gave a shit about his people or his country he would have left on day one. His actions have made it clear that his only concern is power and that he will do whatever he needs to do to keep it.
ApprenticeCatLady 1 year ago 2
If Mubarak dossent get his ass out of egypt fast the only way he will be leaving his palace is in a bodybag.....
Temuldjin 1 year ago
Well Said!
ironearth701 1 year ago
This is some of the most incisive political commentary of the year so far and not at all some bloke who occasionally watches the news jumping on the latest bandwagon despite only finding out last Tuesday where Egypt was on a map.
If there was such a thing as a United States mass debate, surely this guy would win every time with his sense of perspective and thorough understanding of the issues.
Rational Warrior for President? I should fucking Co-co America. He's the nuts.
HitMeQuick 1 year ago
@HitMeQuick This is the most thought provoking comment ever posted under a youtube video by far and not at all some asshole troll with no videos cause he lacks the courage of his convictions to present them in the arena of ideas. You're so much better then all of the other commentators who only engaged me in conversation with what they really felt instead of displaying mindless pointless sarcasm. If life were a pair of underwear you'd be the shit stain.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@rationalwarrior Your cage is rattled easily isn't it flower? It's nice to know you don't take yourself too seriously anyway. (In case you hadn't noticed this is the comment section, where you have invited people to pass comment). And if you seriously think youtube is an arena of ideas, why is the most watched video always a farting cat? And even if it was an arena of ideas, your "get the fuck out" tirade is hardly a new or novel one is it now? Mmm. What next? Your thoughts on the West Bank?
HitMeQuick 1 year ago
@HitMeQuick LOL My cage is rattled because I spoke up for myself. In other words you expect to be able to comment (with no relevant content) and not get replied to. You can dish it out but can't take it. It's also funny how people are quick to dismiss youtube place where ideas are exchanged. If you think that all this forum is good for is videos about farting cats why are you watching a video that isn't about that? Admit your only purpose here is to troll.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago 2
theres only one reason i dont really want mubarak to leave, because he is allied with israel, and most eygptions really hate israel, so if tehre is a democracy there, probebly the peace treaty will be broken and maybe even war again :S
davidds0 1 year ago
It seems Egypt might have its own October Revolution.
harboringanomalies 1 year ago
That old bastard needs to go!
gravekeepersven 1 year ago
I just imagined Mubarak watching youtube videos, thinking: 'France, not a bad idea'
The problem is that the Tunesian top dog got the people's gold out (1.5 ton), but when Mubarrak tried that 19 shipments of gold were intercepted. I think he does not want to leave without the loot of 30 years tax slave harvesting.
modelmark 1 year ago
Awesome. :D
TheTruePooka 1 year ago
I love black people. They're the only race that can really say what they want to say. Everyone else needs to be politely disrespectful. LOL. Great video. No bullshit. Right to the point. GTFO
thechief95 1 year ago
@thechief95 LOL Thanks my friend!
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
Those guys on camels turned out were the cops. They were told to take those camels into the thick of it or they would not be payed. A seriously cheap tactic by those in charge.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
How can this video not be liked by these few youtubers.?
time2learnnow 1 year ago
@time2learnnow Mubarak supporters LMAO.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
Rationwarrior - Sup dude. First time visiting your channel. What is... this all about exactly? I know that there are massive protests going on in Egypt etc. But what I don't know is why... exactly.
And I'd like to hear BOTH sides of the story before I show any support.
Obviously I want to side with the people but what has Mubarak done to incur this wrath?
Appreciate your time!
JayJayAbels 1 year ago
@JayJayAbels He's been president for around 30 years. enough said.
wristawareness 1 year ago
@JayJayAbels Good question. Not only has he completely destroyed their economy but over these 30 years he's been brutal. His police have tortured and murdered thousands of Egyptian citizens who have criticized his regime. The most famous case was the kid Khaled Said. He was a vocal critic of the Mubarak regime and the police beat him to death. This is one of the things that sparked this whole thing. He gets billions in US foreign aid and gives it almost exclusively to his military.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@rationalwarrior Thanx for the info! Dude sounds like a dick.
JayJayAbels 1 year ago
Rationalwarrior if it was me over there trying to send a message to Mubarak. I'd want him live. Atleast long enough to for him to see his kids and grandkids mutalated on camera for him and any other dictator to get the message don't fuck with the people.
BgbadWulof 1 year ago
IF he were serious about staying around till September to ensure an orderly process I would have no problem with him staying till his term ends. I just don't believe him. How many people in his position leave quietly? The question now is.....what happens next? Who takes over. I'm concerned that radicals, who care nothing about democracy or civil rights, will take over by the power vaccum that will be created by this. Let's hope this ends well
MrJmm999 1 year ago
nicely said
Pineconevolved 1 year ago
Couldn't have said it better myself.
trippinlikegod 1 year ago
tits or gtfo mubarak
metalisbetter1o00 1 year ago
I concur.
SuperJasontheman 1 year ago
Time for him to GTFO.
TheCurmudgen 1 year ago
As with most videos you post, concise and summarising my own thoughts. Well said, sir.
Corneilius5188 1 year ago
HE BETTER HOPE 'HIS' PEOPLE DON'T CATCH HIM...HE WILL BE STRUNG UP AND CASTRATED FOR THE WORLD TO SEE. OTHER THAN THAT ALL THE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IS NOT PARTICIPATE...WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T EXIST...NEITHER DO CORPORATIONS. I SECOND YOUR NOTION RATIONAL WARRIOR. BLESS.
CJONESVIDBIZ 1 year ago
You said it all sir.
SgtDICTION 1 year ago
GTFO Mubarak
BibleRefuter 1 year ago
Short and sweet-perfect!
skeletonmom 1 year ago
There is no doubt, Mubarak has fucked the country he was in charge of. So much so that I really don't see any good coming from a revolution to remove him. The risks lie in creating a political vacuum that others are only to willing to fill. If Egypt ends up with an Islamic theocracy, they there will be no more revolutions or civil unrest, they will be silenced via religious manipulation. If given the vote to choose, how many Egyptians would actually vote "against" an Islamic theocracy?
123backinyerface 1 year ago
If they form a democratic government, in doing so they will be hated by other Islamic countries that see "democracy" as the problem of the world, if they form an Islamic government then they will (through humanitarian intentions) drop the border to Gaza, and after the media gets done with their "Berlin wall" routine, the reality is that the 'extremists' from Gaza will be let loose into the rest of the world to continue the jihad. Right or wrong either option looks pretty scary for Egyptians.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
But in saying all that, Mubarak does need to get the fuck out of Egypt or straight into a court of law to be tried from being an enemy to his own state, treason.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface allowing religion to strong arm them is just as foolish as allowing Mubarak to stay in office.
rellik31486 1 year ago
@rellik31486 I totally agree.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface - Yes, scary...but isnt change that way? Nobody knows what is going to happen-not even the Egyptians. But, they must go forward and fight for what is theirs. This is history we are witnessing here, people.
skeletonmom 1 year ago
A foreign correspondent on Norway's national tv-station said it quite aptly: "The people of Egypt are like the Nile. It flows calmly for a long time, and endures much, but when it overflows, it removes anything in its way" I really hope the Mubarak supporters won't spill more blood trying to avoid the inevitable.
TheShortStory 1 year ago
well said sir!
EvilBeatsmith 1 year ago
Since Jan. 25th, 2011- the day the Egyptian Revolution began - 376 people have been killed. When one starts to weigh the weight of another human being's worth, I find it curious that we allow this so called "President" on a pedestal an excuse for so many deaths. Do we grant him this benefit because of his social rank or title? Is his 1 life actually worth more than the 376 people that have been slaughtered in peaceful protest to remove him from power?
I would suggest a subtle, silent solution.
lucerfarul 1 year ago
@lucerfarul We allow it because Egypt is a strategic ally of ours in the middle east. We allow him to continue what he does so that he will continue to let us continue a ludacris war in the middle east.
rellik31486 1 year ago
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lucerfarul 1 year ago
man wants to stay until sept so he can set up his puppet government.
argo984 1 year ago 2
@argo984 That's what I think.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@infastructureFissure He set the dogs loose on them in an attempt to fool the world into believing that the protesters are the violent ones.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago 2
I admit I do like how the protesters responded to Mubarak's attempts to mollify them:
"I will leave under an orderly transition of power."
"No, you will just leave."
OxTheWriter 1 year ago 13
john simpson of the BBC reckons that most of the "pro-mubarak" protestors are straight forward working class egyptians. remember guys, we are not in egypt.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
message and tone of this vid is bang on
imadamjad1 1 year ago
GTFO!
Divinity33372 1 year ago
The Muslim Brotherhood is the largest opposition group. They would like to install an Islamic theocracy to replace the secular govt that has been our ally over there. Yes, it would come down to what the people want, and Egypt is still a very religious country.
I think it's early to be
wwwATHEISTATOMcom 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori It's really sad. And it's not the military. It's his secret police and convicts that he let out of jail. It's a complete mess. It would have been great if he just stepped down. It would have been an inspiration to people all over the world. Instead he reacted true to form. Sad.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
By the people ... for the people !!!
gaglamesh731 1 year ago
When rich people get old, it's the power they want more than anything. They can't seduce women anymore (only buy them), or compete athletically, and writing books is a lot of work, etc. So that leaves them with their little power games.
MrStillmans 1 year ago 15
@MrStillmans Very true. We actually have the same issue over here in the US.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
You goddamned right!!
AGNOSSI 1 year ago
Mubarak will mobilize his thugs and try to intimidate the protesters, he's already closed banks and shops in an attempt to make life hard. I don't think the military will back him, but I don't think his pride will let him leave gracefully. He's shuffled his cabinet for show and the people aren't buying it.
GTFO indeed!
disrxt 1 year ago
@disrxt Right! He's got his thugs out there now. Riding by on horseback with whips and machetes. It's getting ugly and his pride is gonna make things worse. Just think, it started out so peaceful.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
Mubarak is way past his sell by date. he needs to go, like yesterday.
gothatfunk 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori I think it already has escalated. It looks like he's got people out there committing violent acts trying to discourage the people and erode their resolve. I'm watching the footage now. They've even attacked members of the press. Throwing stones at each other. And all of this because he wouldn't step down.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
Short, but to the point. Thumbs up.
Saukko31 1 year ago 3
won't be surprised that if the mob of people would have found him they would have hanged him by his balls in the middle of the Tahrir Square
gskowal 1 year ago
let the egyptians decide. the power vacuum is the problem.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
@raverdeath100 I think they already decided. They want him to step down. He, however, doesn't really want to give up power. The power vacuum is a concern but I don't think the people would trade one dictator for another.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@rationalwarrior i agree with your sentiment, but i think there's an awful lot of people who want him to stay until september. Egypt going the way of Iraq is a big fear. Egypt is important, mubarak can't brazen it out like mugabe. the whole world's got too much at stake.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
@raverdeath100 That probably is true but the overwhelming majority wants him to step down now. Plus according to reports by people there he is manufacturing the opposition to the protesters. Using out of uniform police, releasing convicts from prison etc. Typical dictator behavior when they are opposed by their masses. Egypt is important but he's handling this in a way that is far more harmful then helpful.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@rationalwarrior we both want the same outcome, democracy for everyone. but i'm thinking of the fall of communist east europe. funnily enough, totally ignored by the media when they look for past examples. but there, in most countries, the ruling communists stayed until the elections. the recent history of overthrowing dictators abruptly has led to disaster in most cases. extremists of all kinds love that sort of disruption.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
@raverdeath100 That's very true. I just have the feeling he's trying to stack the deck. Reshuffle his cabinet and work it in such a way that his regime stays in power.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
@rationalwarrior he's finished and i think he knows it. if the egyptians take their time and get this right, then i'm actually hopeful for the future of the middle east, for the first time in ages. great vids by the way mate, your a bonafide " straight talker ". peace.
raverdeath100 1 year ago
@raverdeath100 Thanks my friend!
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
He doesn't even need to leave the country. He just needs to step down. Is it odd to say I hope this can all be done peacefully? Probably hehe. I really do fear someone else coming in and messing things up... sort of like crossthegrigori is saying.
tattooskin72 1 year ago
@tattooskin72 That's definitely a concern but I don't think the people would allow another dictator to come in and run the same game. They want real change.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
My thoughts exactly.
bimblinghill 1 year ago
I'm sure Saudi Arabia has a spare palace for him, then he can play golf with Ben Ali
Chiflado21 1 year ago
Why France? If anything his exile would be with his sugar daddy, Uncle Sam. And I don't think we want him.
JoeDixon 1 year ago
Simple but effective!
gingergreek 1 year ago 2
exile? fuck no. kill him and take his assets!
NORTHERNKONFLIKT 1 year ago
@NORTHERNKONFLIKT You know....if that's what the people wanted I would support it as long as it's done using their rule of law. But in my opinion he's getting off easy and he should take it. It's getting real ugly over there.
rationalwarrior 1 year ago
My thoughts exactly.
BigBobsh2o 1 year ago
totally agree
jmm1233 1 year ago