hi=if you increase the lenght of that black hose to 1000 feet or more==would that help into heating up the water more-??and does it matter what type of hose i use ??or must it be black==??=-i live in a place with lots of very hot sun--yet my pool still cold--will appreciate ur answer--and congratulation on a very logical excelent idea--
There was a Japanese design of solar panel, with a blow up clear cover, may be one way to increase output would be to bag the unit with clear poly film to aid production temperature & if you could rig it with the sump switch a low temperature cut out, to stop the pump wastfully running if the shadowing gets too much.
Just throw a black panel in the pool or paint the bottom black. This was a big waste of time, effort, money and materials. Plus 85 degrees is pretty low, my garden hose gets hotter than that.
Damn critics are annoying arent they lol, i get them on my videos all the time, i think people get mad at a thorough well shot video and have to hunt for something to bitch about....... damn know it alls lol
I got a pool heater thats free..... just get all the neighborhood kids to come over and piss in it till it turns yellow. kinda smells funny afterward but it works and its warm and its free.
My solar cover works good too, but only for about 9" down, and then it's just "turn your nuts blue" cold for the rest of the pool. I think I'll build this heater this summer because the results look promising. Thanks for this vid!
Hi, good video, but do you realise that as long as your pool gets direct sunlight too, you're actually better off just throwing the black tubing straight in the pool. Even better, buy a $10 sheet of black plastic a few rocks and put it in the bottom of the pool. No pump required and all heat transferred diredt to the water.
Ever considered putting a temperature switch in the system? Putting a conversion to a bigger tube, putting in the temperature switch, and running the pump through that would ensure that only after the irrigation tube was at a desired temperature would the pump run. You can get them on ebay for fairly cheap. Just a thought, great work on it! Happy swimming!
I did this also, made two 200 foot coils -one on each side of the roof- with just a little water fountain pump. Worked great, the temp coming back into the pool is 109 F. and the pool is now 92 F from 65 F. GREAT IDEA. Only spent 45 $ without pump.
i havesame setup , started with 400 ft then went to garage sales, bought every hose i could, now have 1600ft t' d off from 1, 3/4 hp pool pump i get a 15degree rise at 6 gpm from 83 to 95 if i slow it i can get 3gpm at 110 , turn it off for a half hour it will get to 140 ish had to use a turkey therm pool thernm stops 115. i c0vered a 15 x 36 cabana/shed and made tw0 4x8 panels covered in driveway seal. now i'm going metal , and workin on a 55 gln drum fire heater w pipe heatexchanger . goodjob
Great idea. My only concern would be the leaching of chemicals into the water from the hose. Soaking in water containing toxins released from the poly tubing is not such a good idea.
does this really work? we have an above ground 18' x 4' pool and the water is freezing. im not down with spending up to a grand on a heater. our pump is 3/4hp I think. is that too big or how would I modify this to work with our pool pump???
I can make it cheaper. Buy a black tarp rubber/vinel runner and put it at the bottom of the pool. Or paint the pool black. The black absorbs the heat and stays in the water. No need for tubing or pump. Less work and no unsightly roof attachments.
Are you sure you have 400 feet of irrigation tubing ? you said 20 bucks for 200 feet, Im trying to find tubing but 400 feet is way more than 40 bucks...where did you purchase it from ? btw great video..I am designing my set up right now
Thanks for this cool video. I happen to have a pump like this and have wanted to build a solar water heater for a long time so your idea is going to spur me to do something about it!
I'm going to go make one! I already have a pump from winter flooding...I'll try to post up how well it goes for me. Thanks for the video. Our's is an inground pool, but should work just the same. I'm excited at the possibility.
Don't all those clamps put space between the tubes and make it less efficient? Maybe a clamp on every 4th or 5th tube, securing others to that with cable ties to keep the tubes touching as much as possible.
I would say the contrary. The space between the tubes allows the sunlight to reach a bigger surface of the tube; the tubes touching each other will block out light.
Pump is way too large. You should only need a 1/16 hp pump. You only need to lift the water 1" then siphon will take over. We circulate heated water for a 8 floor hotel with a 1/3 hp pump. The smaller pump will move the water slower and it'll pick up the heat better.
Can you recommend a 1/16 hp pump with the lift I need and the capacity to pump through 400 ft of tube? I would love a pic of your 1/3 hp pump with 70'of lift!
@ozzirt That is great for the system when it's operating continuously. What does he do when he's lost his prime? I'd imagine he'll be dealing with a motor and pump need far beyond that he needed for just maintaining circulation in a static system.
@btwbrand He still only needs a pump that develops 8 psi, also if his system does not leak there is no reason why he would lose the suction. Just keep both inlet and discharge ends under the water level.
@gwsl311 : You don't need 70' of lift due to siphon principal, the leg on the downward side has as much energy as the upward side. You only need that much lift to get the coils filled initially, not to keep going. Height doesn't matter if both legs are equal. HOWEVER - - - the weight of water will only support a column so high, before enough vacuum causes boiling at low temperature (due to the vacuum). You will need enough pressure to overcome that.
@gwsl311 lol when I read the other comment the only thing going through my mind was, it's on the roof. Thanks for the vid I tried to find something like this last year but had no luck so thanks again!
@zeedee21 it wont move it any faster depending on the horsepower, thats based on motor rpm, all the hp is good for is feet of head..it will still move at the same velocity, he just has a little extra umph!
you need good pump to push water up to the roof,(15-25f) flat tubing will help more then round,black asphalt shingles works, try to look online for old jacuzzi pump they should work well. if you don't use pool, cover it with black tarp or dark cover :)
@zeedee21 Slowing down the flow of water will reduce the heating rate. It is true that lower flow will increase the discharge temperature, but the heat flow Q=m*Cp*dT will decrease. The inside-tube heat transfer coefficient becomes lower as fluid velocity (Reynold's number) decreases. Increased flow decreases cold fluid temperature, but increases temperature driving force, whcih also increases heat trasnfer rate. Bottom line, higher water flow = more heat. (Dr. J. Steed, BASc, PhD, P.Eng)
Yes it is on a GFCI. In the video I show that it is tethered to the side of the pool. When it comes time to swim, the pump is turned off and removed from the pool and hangs on the outside. Thanks for pointing out that I should have stressed this more i the video.
@gschjetne Just to let you know all homes built in the last 20 years are required to have a GFCI outlet by law on the receptical even if it is not the physical GFCI it's self but on a leg of it off the first GFCI in wet locations like outside receptical next to doors.
The output is about 85 degrees when the sun is out. The pool temp is hoovering around 80 degrees. Our average air temp has been about 67 degrees. Last year, without the heater, the pool temp was about 70 degrees.
If I was building this, I'd save on the pipe clamps by drilling the timber and coiling through the holes. Just a thought.
SiskinOnUTube 1 week ago
what if there's no sun?
jasonjslam 1 month ago
hi=if you increase the lenght of that black hose to 1000 feet or more==would that help into heating up the water more-??and does it matter what type of hose i use ??or must it be black==??=-i live in a place with lots of very hot sun--yet my pool still cold--will appreciate ur answer--and congratulation on a very logical excelent idea--
boysponge1 2 months ago
There was a Japanese design of solar panel, with a blow up clear cover, may be one way to increase output would be to bag the unit with clear poly film to aid production temperature & if you could rig it with the sump switch a low temperature cut out, to stop the pump wastfully running if the shadowing gets too much.
magna59 2 months ago
Why be so cheap inground pools ar where its @
CRACKFACE86 3 months ago
Go to solarsunpacifc website for best solar pool panel prices. We'll do our best to beat any price.
solarsunpacific 4 months ago
Out of all of the innovative ways to het your pool, your way looks the best. Neatest, chepest and most efficient. Thanks for the video!!!!
msvickicox1 5 months ago
Awesome! Love BTLS.COM
one350z 6 months ago
Just throw a black panel in the pool or paint the bottom black. This was a big waste of time, effort, money and materials. Plus 85 degrees is pretty low, my garden hose gets hotter than that.
dick117 6 months ago
i was wondering if the system still works and if the harbor freight pump did not fail because i was thinking of getting that same pump
chelloplayer128 6 months ago
3 ppl don't like pools and saving energy while making the world a greener place to live
gustrance 6 months ago
Awesome video, thanks for sharing!!
avitron4 7 months ago
Damn critics are annoying arent they lol, i get them on my videos all the time, i think people get mad at a thorough well shot video and have to hunt for something to bitch about....... damn know it alls lol
croom9 7 months ago
Ned Dragons
ryansaid1 7 months ago
my intex heater stopped working
warlockboyburns 8 months ago
I got a pool heater thats free..... just get all the neighborhood kids to come over and piss in it till it turns yellow. kinda smells funny afterward but it works and its warm and its free.
ki4hou 9 months ago
My solar cover works good too, but only for about 9" down, and then it's just "turn your nuts blue" cold for the rest of the pool. I think I'll build this heater this summer because the results look promising. Thanks for this vid!
StraightOutOfBordom 11 months ago
sorry i guess i didn't finish listening to the full video,, very excited about it.. i can't wait to get started on my own now..
kepaloha 11 months ago
for the 400 feet of tube,,, what is the average temp that your pool gets too?? and what is the temp of the water coming back into the pool???
kepaloha 11 months ago
WOW but the following product is the way to heat an Intex Pool
El Nino pool solar heater
TheSolarmann 11 months ago
nice alot better then some huge long pipe that look like crap yours in that coil looks nice good job man
jfkr77 11 months ago
Just throw an active hair dryer in there. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG!
ilovearmadillos 1 year ago
@ilovearmadillos lol
chunkmanshaun 9 months ago
Hi, good video, but do you realise that as long as your pool gets direct sunlight too, you're actually better off just throwing the black tubing straight in the pool. Even better, buy a $10 sheet of black plastic a few rocks and put it in the bottom of the pool. No pump required and all heat transferred diredt to the water.
mott000 1 year ago
Great stuff , subbed
SaveDurban 1 year ago
not ment for canada try getting water out of there and ruins the roof
san379 1 year ago
may I ask where you bought your tubing?
thanks m
verr58 1 year ago
Ever considered putting a temperature switch in the system? Putting a conversion to a bigger tube, putting in the temperature switch, and running the pump through that would ensure that only after the irrigation tube was at a desired temperature would the pump run. You can get them on ebay for fairly cheap. Just a thought, great work on it! Happy swimming!
ponyryan 1 year ago
Nice Job! I'm gooing to be doing something similar, how many gallons is your pool?
MoreInfo24 1 year ago
cool i like it looks good thanks for posting.
mongo426 1 year ago
Hahaa I've been too it pool (it's so fun)
SaveTheEarth246 1 year ago
I did this also, made two 200 foot coils -one on each side of the roof- with just a little water fountain pump. Worked great, the temp coming back into the pool is 109 F. and the pool is now 92 F from 65 F. GREAT IDEA. Only spent 45 $ without pump.
nathanandmaggie 1 year ago
i got the cheapest idea, black plastic on the bottom of the pool
fairyheli2 1 year ago
i havesame setup , started with 400 ft then went to garage sales, bought every hose i could, now have 1600ft t' d off from 1, 3/4 hp pool pump i get a 15degree rise at 6 gpm from 83 to 95 if i slow it i can get 3gpm at 110 , turn it off for a half hour it will get to 140 ish had to use a turkey therm pool thernm stops 115. i c0vered a 15 x 36 cabana/shed and made tw0 4x8 panels covered in driveway seal. now i'm going metal , and workin on a 55 gln drum fire heater w pipe heatexchanger . goodjob
toob247 1 year ago
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mywaterbroke 1 year ago
Great idea. My only concern would be the leaching of chemicals into the water from the hose. Soaking in water containing toxins released from the poly tubing is not such a good idea.
waleska96143 1 year ago
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waleska96143 1 year ago
does this really work? we have an above ground 18' x 4' pool and the water is freezing. im not down with spending up to a grand on a heater. our pump is 3/4hp I think. is that too big or how would I modify this to work with our pool pump???
amymfoth 1 year ago
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deodiaus 1 year ago
I can make it cheaper. Buy a black tarp rubber/vinel runner and put it at the bottom of the pool. Or paint the pool black. The black absorbs the heat and stays in the water. No need for tubing or pump. Less work and no unsightly roof attachments.
deodiaus 1 year ago
....or you could just buy a solar cover...
njersey75devil 1 year ago
Are you sure you have 400 feet of irrigation tubing ? you said 20 bucks for 200 feet, Im trying to find tubing but 400 feet is way more than 40 bucks...where did you purchase it from ? btw great video..I am designing my set up right now
sampsonvr6 1 year ago
Can I use 1/2" or 3/4" poly tubing?
1dtoral1 1 year ago
Fantastic my friend very nice great job
HULK515 1 year ago
Thanks for this cool video. I happen to have a pump like this and have wanted to build a solar water heater for a long time so your idea is going to spur me to do something about it!
pitbullbites1313 1 year ago
Is this OK for a intex 15x46?
CPDCFD 1 year ago
I'm going to go make one! I already have a pump from winter flooding...I'll try to post up how well it goes for me. Thanks for the video. Our's is an inground pool, but should work just the same. I'm excited at the possibility.
marksorensen2 1 year ago
info...the sun is on the next side...lol
Ioniesationselektrod 1 year ago
Don't all those clamps put space between the tubes and make it less efficient? Maybe a clamp on every 4th or 5th tube, securing others to that with cable ties to keep the tubes touching as much as possible.
Babaziba 1 year ago
@Babaziba
I would say the contrary. The space between the tubes allows the sunlight to reach a bigger surface of the tube; the tubes touching each other will block out light.
Regards from Mexico
321ozzy 1 year ago
Vid stopped short on me, I put a non return valve on the inlet, so it doesnt have to keeping reaching height every day.
catatonicable 1 year ago
Pump is way too large. You should only need a 1/16 hp pump. You only need to lift the water 1" then siphon will take over. We circulate heated water for a 8 floor hotel with a 1/3 hp pump. The smaller pump will move the water slower and it'll pick up the heat better.
zeedee21 2 years ago 6
Can you recommend a 1/16 hp pump with the lift I need and the capacity to pump through 400 ft of tube? I would love a pic of your 1/3 hp pump with 70'of lift!
gwsl311 2 years ago 11
@gwsl311 you don't have 70' of lift. Effectively there is no lift at all, just circulation of a syphon.
You will need enough head to start the syphon, 0.454 PSI per foot of height to the top of the coil (looks like no more than 16 ft = about 7.3 PSI
ozzirt 1 year ago
@ozzirt That is great for the system when it's operating continuously. What does he do when he's lost his prime? I'd imagine he'll be dealing with a motor and pump need far beyond that he needed for just maintaining circulation in a static system.
btwbrand 1 year ago
@btwbrand He still only needs a pump that develops 8 psi, also if his system does not leak there is no reason why he would lose the suction. Just keep both inlet and discharge ends under the water level.
It is my business to know these things.
ozzirt 1 year ago
@gwsl311 : You don't need 70' of lift due to siphon principal, the leg on the downward side has as much energy as the upward side. You only need that much lift to get the coils filled initially, not to keep going. Height doesn't matter if both legs are equal. HOWEVER - - - the weight of water will only support a column so high, before enough vacuum causes boiling at low temperature (due to the vacuum). You will need enough pressure to overcome that.
LincTexPilot 1 year ago
@gwsl311 lol when I read the other comment the only thing going through my mind was, it's on the roof. Thanks for the vid I tried to find something like this last year but had no luck so thanks again!
iLEGENDARYx 10 months ago
@gwsl311 I know this comment was a year ago but maybe it's the heat
differential that causes the circulation. The first house I ever built back
in 1971-72 we installed a circulating hot water system that had no
pump at all. This house was 2 story (granted, not 8 stories).
chonesong 9 months ago
@gwsl311
Don't need 70' of lift, your roof isn't more than 12'.
Ozarkorganicshiitake 6 months ago
you do forget that the hose is rolled up, so
the water flow is getting alot of resistance
because it has to spin around for about 45 times before it returns into the pool.
It's the same as a long electricity cable that is rolled up on a drum that is getting hot when you run alot of power to it.
I got about the same setup as in the vid,
and at i don't get alot of water coming out at the end, so a 1/16 pump would do nothing at all.
3DPeter 1 year ago
@zeedee21 it wont move it any faster depending on the horsepower, thats based on motor rpm, all the hp is good for is feet of head..it will still move at the same velocity, he just has a little extra umph!
pclle 1 year ago
you need good pump to push water up to the roof,(15-25f) flat tubing will help more then round,black asphalt shingles works, try to look online for old jacuzzi pump they should work well. if you don't use pool, cover it with black tarp or dark cover :)
tomekville 6 months ago
@zeedee21 Slowing down the flow of water will reduce the heating rate. It is true that lower flow will increase the discharge temperature, but the heat flow Q=m*Cp*dT will decrease. The inside-tube heat transfer coefficient becomes lower as fluid velocity (Reynold's number) decreases. Increased flow decreases cold fluid temperature, but increases temperature driving force, whcih also increases heat trasnfer rate. Bottom line, higher water flow = more heat. (Dr. J. Steed, BASc, PhD, P.Eng)
jsteed5 4 months ago 2
is your electric bill going up?
AlbertInSanAntonio 2 years ago
make one for 10 bucks get copper pipe and throw it into fire and lead the tubes into the water and it will pump warm water into the tub
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
Make sure you have that pump on a ground fault interrupter. You don't want a toaster-in-tub scenario there.
I had a pump like that fail, would have been a real shock hazard in the water if the interrupter hadn't disconnected it first.
gschjetne 2 years ago
Yes it is on a GFCI. In the video I show that it is tethered to the side of the pool. When it comes time to swim, the pump is turned off and removed from the pool and hangs on the outside. Thanks for pointing out that I should have stressed this more i the video.
gwsl311 2 years ago
12volt is safer
acerkiwi 2 years ago
@gschjetne Just to let you know all homes built in the last 20 years are required to have a GFCI outlet by law on the receptical even if it is not the physical GFCI it's self but on a leg of it off the first GFCI in wet locations like outside receptical next to doors.
egn83b 1 year ago
What model # pump is this?
Bigjohnnywad 2 years ago
would a 1/3 HP submersible pump be able to handle this?
dodadoda8 2 years ago
I love this! Very clever.
kingKenRed 2 years ago
Could you come to my house? LOL very informative I just need a man to help me do that lol
YJD123 2 years ago
i did the same, only i also made a large
case were i put in the hose, and a plexiglass plate over it.
the extra effect is that the case acts like a little greenhouse witch prevents the hot air from escaping, so the hose is getting extra warm.
3DPeter 2 years ago
What kind of temperatures do you get out of the return? How much temp rise have you seen in the pool?
900rr1 2 years ago
The output is about 85 degrees when the sun is out. The pool temp is hoovering around 80 degrees. Our average air temp has been about 67 degrees. Last year, without the heater, the pool temp was about 70 degrees.
gwsl311 2 years ago
you should have connected it to your pool pump
salmandini1 2 years ago
My existing filter/pump unit was not sufficient to handle both tasks.
gwsl311 2 years ago
Cool! Good video.
thejesters1975 2 years ago