@sergiomarchelli TOLERANCE, EQUALITY, AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WILL ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN. GOD HELP YOUR KIDS IF U HAVE OR EVER HAVE ANY.
@sergiomarchelli if being brainwashed into unconditional love,equality ,and tolerance is a bad thing, i will gladly take it. stay in ur lil hate corner. its lonely there.
@dorianstark brainwashed means that you cannot think and you are repeating some cliches and if you think some more you will understand their absurdity.
@sergiomarchelli i am clear headed when it comes to who i am. i have always been this way. i never gave in to the brainwashing of hate and intolerance. theres no excuses for the way homosexuals or anyone that gets treated as such. kids need to learn properly. parents are not doing their job.
Brainwashing happened in the Dark Ages, and is dogmatic: the church, the aristocracy and the Bible tells you what's right and what not ("homosexuality is unnatural!")
Age of Enlightenment: men's own reason is the primary source of legitimacy and authority. ("Why would homosexuality be unnatural? If it was unnatural, what's wrong with that?")
The second is what these kids are thought: to base your judgements on one's own reasoning, in stead of repeating opinions of others.
@andrekloer well, so you want me to blindly believe in the new dogma that this brainwashing to children is normal and I must obey the new Bible of Tolerance, because any intolerance will not be tolerated?:))). This sounds same as Dark Ages...or Pink Ages?
@sergiomarchelli I haven't used the word tolerance. The word I did use was: "making judgements on basis of one's own reasoning" (in oppose to repeating other one's opinions without using any form of own reasoning)
@andrekloer so what is the problem? My opinion is that these kids are brainwashed to fit into some new standarts, because some lobbies are making their politics in same way the dogmatic religious institutions or any other institution that want to justify theirselves. Of course their bigger power is tolerance. If you have different opinion you are not tolerant.
@sergiomarchelli The difference between dogmatism and reason is that dogmatists stop asking questions and take the truth that was taught to them for the only truth. A man of reason on the other hand keeps asking questions, and tries to find answers by use of reason. A question could be: "Is teaching children about tolerance good?"
Listening to what the presenter is saying, I hear he only asks questions, and is not giving answers himself to his questions. So how could he be brainwashing them?
@sergiomarchelli I think it is good. But I will not teach my children that "tolerance is good", I will teach them to ask questions like the one you asked me: "Is tolerance good?" And I will encourage them to find answers to these questions themselves, by means of reason.
This is what the presenter in the vid is doing as well. Therefore the title of the vid is: "'Preschoolers discuss issues of gays and lesbians", and is not: "Presenter teaches children about gay tolerance".
@andrekloer yes it is good to be critical and not just accept the things.
such tv shows are just a program to force people accept homos. About kids, for them is easy, for example, homo is the main insult in the schools that show really interesting archetype in the kids, that this is just wrong.
@sergiomarchelli Wether or not there are such 'archetypes' is a legitimate question, but it is unlikely that they do exist. It is more likely that children are taught to think that being gay is unnatural: the video above proves that; Dutch children are more tolerant towards gays than countries where dogmatic religions are dominant. Like is the case in many Islamic countries, and countries where the Christian church is very influential, like East European countries, Italy and Ireland.
@andrekloer I don't think so. I am pretty sure what is the main insult as in any school. All this "tolerance" thing is just brainwashing and forcing the children to accept things that are disturbing to their emotional and sexual development.
@andrekloer hehe. This video is prepeared to be like this. It is more interesting to see the things without any external influence. They are pure instinctive reaction to the wierd freaks.
@sergiomarchelli The host only asks questions and repeats what the kids are answering. He doesnt give answers himself, nor does he give hints about the correctness of answers.
So the kids talk freely how they think about the topics. Thats the concept of the program and it exists like that for years. Whether its about, toys, animals, parents, school or: gays.
This video doesnt support that children have an instinctive aversion of gays, in fact it looks like its quite the opposite.
@andrekloer but you can easily see that it is really strange for them, to discuss about such freaks. The Mother and the Father are archetypes in them. Nothing can change this. And by the way most of the problems come when the things in the family are not in this archetypal way and it is really most important for the sexual and emotional development of the kids.
@sergiomarchelli ...about the sexual and emotional development of children: research shows every year again and again that Holland (a liberal and relatively gay friendly country) is one of the happiest countries in the world. While Italy, a country where archetypical and dogmatic thinking is much more influential (catholic church) barely reaches the top 50. It seems that your archetypes doesn't give you a lot of joy.
@andrekloer it will be interesting if they ask them about cannibals, maybe they will say "a man that loves to eat other men" hehe.
The kids are saying what are told for the show. There are such programs for tolerance to the freaks and for brainwashing the kids. This can cause confusion but still won't change their archtype. The first archetype they have is their family. No doubt why kids have problems when the Father and the Mother have big problems with their development.
@sergiomarchelli Your assertions find no support in the leading scientific research literature. (I dare you to come with just one recent example)
The top 5 happiest countries (including Holland) are also the most gay liberal countries that all implemented 'confusing' laws like gay marriage, gay adoption. Your own country, stuck with the Catholic church and it's dogmatic thinking, is not happy at all. It seems your dogma's and 'archetypes' don't give you a lot of joy, do they?
@andrekloer well, it is interesting that you mix the word scientific with "top 5 happiest countries". This hyper subjective thing as happy or unhappy have nothing to do with science. For example I am happy where I live.
Most of these modern researches are not based on empiric evidences and are serving to some lobbies.
About dogmatic stuff, as I said, the new dogma is that you should be tolerant and you won't be accepted if you have different understanding about morals.
@sergiomarchelli You are critical to research done by others, but fail to be critical on your own irrational, based on no research at all.
You don't seem to know the definition of dogmaticm: religion or institution prescribe what's right. Questioning their dogma's is a sin.
Enlightenment: men's own reason is the primary source of legitimacy and authority, by also *questioning* one's own (stubborn) presumptions: "Why would homosexuality be unnatural?" But also: "Is tolerance good?"
@andrekloer no, I am critical to lies. Because most of these researches are not based on objective evidence but they claim to be objective.
About the most happy people. haha for me these are the gipsies. They don't have things like depressions, they live day for a day, dance sing, eat...make children and if they like something they take it (they don't have the dogma that stealing is sin). See black cat white cat ;-). And...they cannot be integrated to the modern western model...cheers
@sergiomarchelli A man of reason is critical to ALL assertions, and AFTER careful judgement and reasoning determines whether or not an assertion is a lie or not.
A dogmatist does the opposite: he takes blindly from others assertions for truths or lies.
@andrekloer I agree with all this. See the movie black cat white cat by Kusturica.
About dogma, I know many people saying such liberal things without even realizing what they are talking about. Just repeating the cliches. I know people that are dogmatic about some things but they understand what and why they've choosen.
I have a friend here from Holland. He seems really happy. Of course he had some problems with our habits, like that is ok to go uninvited for dinner;-).
Are cannibals freaks in cannibal society?For example homosexuality was normal in some of thesocieties of ancient greece, but in today's understanding this will be recognized like pedophilia.
Many of the things you listed have better scientific background than your top 5 happiest ganja places. By the way you didn't answer me about the movie. It will put your mind out of the box and you will see what you are missing to be happy. :-).
What 'better' scientific background are you referring too? Name me just one recent example and link.
The top 5 of happiest countries, and % ganja use happen to be the lowest in Western Europe!: 1. The Netherlands (9.7%) 2. Denmark (13,3%) 3. Finland (8%) 4. Norway (9.6%) 5. Sweden (4.8%)
The country with the MOST ganja use of the EU: Italy (20,9%)
source: European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA), 2009
@andrekloer haha. you said you have critical thinking, so you can find the answers by yourself. I can give you a hint with Jung. There you can dig with the archetypes. But it is not just a link or two.
About the happy countries, I told you. This have nothing to do with science. Btw I am not living in Italy now. So I don't care about your dogmatic prejudices about the Catholic church. I am in the Balkans region.
And so... you haven't watched this movie...shame on you!...;-).
No I am in a much normal place. But I can tell you only in PM.
By the way I don't hate them, I just don't accept their lies and politics. It is different.
Yes and I am rendering some scenes...but the Kosturica movie is great! A complete another demension of happiness. What about the liberal attitude of the gipsies about stealing stuff? ;-). They are pioneers and the best in this.
Although you ar right to be critical on such polls, you fail to be critical on your own irrational thinking, based on NO research at all. Lack of self criticism is inherent to dogmatic thinking.
I watch your film later, because I am now editing myself a film. Your non-sencicle and dogmatic reasoning is a welcome distraction however.
@andrekloer hehehe, why you think it's irrational, because it doesn't fit to your way of thinking? So I must think same as you, right? Toleranquisition. Any intolerance will not be tolerated! Heil! I gave you hints about the researches.
But yo must go deep into the human subconsiousness. The answers are not in the shallow land of the cliches and tolerance.
@sergiomarchelli Your assertions find no support in the leading scientific research literature. (I still dare you to come with just one recent example). Just mentioning "Jung" is not precise enough.
I never propagated 'tolerance' as such. What I do propagate, and have done so in this whole discussion is "making judgements on basis of one's own logical reasoning" In oppose to repeating other one's opinions (Bible, institutions) without using any form of critical reasoning: that's dogmatism
@sergiomarchelli With irrational I mean: blindly repeat what others (bible, peers, institutions) have said without use of one's own logic reasoning (with use of examples in scientific literature)
So I am not rejecting your assertions ("gays have politics to brainwash our children"), I am rejecting your assertions that aren't supported by serious scientific evidence. So far you even fail to mention just ONE recent scientific research...
Sooo, (bible, peers, institutions) ...this include and your top moderns scientific researches in which you believe blindly and you think that if something is not in the newest top science researches it is not true. This is also dogmatic thinking. It is not any different. And this is serious topic, if you really have critical thinking ( in which I start to doubt) the hint I gave you will be enough to start.
@sergiomarchelli It is not the domain of science to talks about 'truths'. A scientific, falsifiable assertion stands, UNTIL some one proofs a assertion is wrong.
Some findings are standing for so long, (the world is round for ex.) that we think maybe dogmatic about it. But it is still free to anyone to proof otherwise.
So it is free for you to proof that for example gay parenting is bad for the child, to falsify the overwhelmingly scientific evidence that proofs the opposite.
@andrekloer the round Earth is not good example, because this is observable. You don't need to believe in this. It is a fact.
This is not dogma. In same way you tell your kid not to touch the hot-plate. This also is not dogmatic, because it is observable what damage it will cause.
Same there are some principles in our consciousness that are observable, of course they have strong subjective aspect. But these things exist.
@sergiomarchelli ALL scientific findings should be observable AND possible of being tested for validity by other researchers, even the round earth. That's the difference between science and dogma's: falsifiable finding on one hand, and absolute unquestionable truths on the other. INCLUDING a fact is not absolute, although some are so evident they almost become one.
Dogmatism has to do whether youre capable of questioning things of which you thought they were facts. You seem not capable to do s0
@andrekloer Dude you just don't make sense anymore. Go, take a sleep, rethink, make some critics on yourself. Say to yourself "where am I wrong?", "what more I need to read, so I can think out of this decadent pseudointelectual western culture box", and "what I have for breakfast"...the last question have also good reasons!
@sergiomarchelli And one word about your consciousness: come with ONE recent scientific finding that could support your assertion.
According to the positive comments here and the 52 thum ups for mister 'doctorsatanist', at least SOME of us don't have these consciousness problems.
Have you ever even just considered that only because of that 'fact', it could just be as well culture in which you LEARNED that gays are freaks? Learned dogma, never to be questioned, no fact at all?
@sergiomarchelli And by the way I'm not blaming you for having these feelings. I find you just extremely dogmatic that you don't seem to be capable of questioning your own "genuine" feelings for it's validity. As a kid I was genuinely afraid for crocodiles underneath my bed, later I found out my own consciousness had fooled me big time!
(I just don't want to think what Uncle Zigmund can say about this).
Now seriously. I gave you hint from where to start, and see where this leads. But maybe you are afraid of changing your mind...yes change can be painful! Don't get me wrong this is huge field to discuss, it is not just wiki link that tells you "Earth is kida round".
@andrekloer but you are living in a lie. You are accepting the things blindly even you don't want to read some more and accept something outside of the box you are thinking. I think you are the person with the prejudices and dogmatic thinking. You just can't accept that people can have different understandings. You claim that I use someone else's work, but you are also pointing to someone else's researches. Have you checked and repeated experimentaly every result of the things you know? ;-).
@sergiomarchelli You are critical to research done by others, but you fail to be critical on your own irrational thinking, based on NO research at all. Lack of self criticism is inherent to dogmatic thinking.
So enlighten me, what is your source? Which work (and page), and what did Jung specifically asserted about gays? I am open for valid critics (that's the difference between dogmatists and rational people)
@andrekloer Well dude you are a hypocrate, you are blaming me for not critisizing my views but you don't critisize your own views. Who is the dogmatic freak here?
The sources are different and it won't take to read an article or two, but to dig more and make your own opinion. Of course it is easier to read some forbes and cosmopolitain quizez and horoscopes. This conversation is over for me, because you are too fanatic for free mind, decadent bourgeois western pseudointelectual. ;-).
@sergiomarchelli Hypocrite? I never did a statement on my own about gays.
Twice however, I falsified YOUR statements: 1. You said gays confuses children's development and sexuality. I falsified that by stating that in 2009 The most gay liberal countries in the world happen to be also the most happiest countries in the world. Meaning children are apparently happy in these countries. I referenced to research done by Gallup in 140 countries, published in Forbes in 2010 (and many other mass media).
@sergiomarchelli 2. You stated that these 'happy' countries are according to you "ganja places". I falsified that by statistics from the EU: these four countries are among the lowest ganja users in the EU! Both statistics from the EU and pols from Gallup are widely known for their accuracy.
You, on the other hand, were not capable of mentioning NO source at all. Meaning your image of homosexuality is only determent by dogma's, then by facts. This is for every body to read in this discussion.
@sergiomarchelli Do you also find it inappropriate when kids discuss love between a man and a woman? IT'S LOVE. they aren't talking about sex....get over yourself.
@sergiomarchelli You are a classic case of brainwashing, by the damn bible telling you it's wrong to love someone because they are of the same gender.
Not the least bit surprising, as these two countries are at the forefront of the apostasy so prevalent in Post-Christian Europe. If that's "light-years" ahead of the U.S.A., I'd hate to see where this country is heading. What the world needs now is a good old-fashioned "Auto-da-Fe" (please Google if you don't know what this term means; it's in Wiki, and not what people think it is), to prune the dead branches off the tree of a decaying Christendom. Where's Dr. Torquemada when you need him?
Not the least bit surprising, as these two countries are at the forefront of the apostasy so prevalent in Post-Christian Europe. If that's "light-years" ahead of the U.S.A., I'd hate to see where this country is heading. What the world needs now is a good old-fashioned "Auto-da-Fe" (please Google if you don't know what this term means; it's in Wiki, and not what people think it is), to prune the dead branches off the tree of a decaying Christendom. Where's Dr. Torquemada when you need him?
Where this world is heading is too a better place, without stereotypes, where people are accepted no matter their religion, skin color or who they choose to be with.
Yes, by all means, let's latch onto the ONE thing that you can bash and worry it to death - eclipsing the message that these children have been taught acceptance of other people and not hatred of anyone different.
The video is from the Netherlands which is not a Scandinavian country.
Suicide rate hits 32-year-low in Netherlands
Just over 1,353 people took their lives in the Netherlands in 2007.
25 September 2008
THE NETHERLANDS -- Suicide rate in the Netherlands is at its lowest point since 1975, reports Statistics Netherlands.
For the last 15 years, the Netherlands averaged about 1,500 suicides annually. In 2007, just 1,353 people took their own lives, an 11 percent fall over 2006.
In Depth: See All 10 of the World's Happiest Places
Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands rated at the top of the list, ranking first, second and third, respectively. Outside Europe, New Zealand and Canada landed at Nos. 8 and 6, respectively. The United States did not crack the top 10. Switzerland placed seventh and Belgium placed tenth.
Ik moet nog steeds uitvinden waarom sommige mensen het een probleem vinden als anderen homo seksueel zijn!! Waarom zou je mensen niet gewoon kunnen accepteren zoals ze zijn?
I still have to figure out what the big deal is with people being gay!!! Why can't you accept people as they are??
All the religious nuts here in the USA would blow a gasket over this. The dutch and scandanavians are light years ahead of us. Hats off to them. At least someone in the world isnt totally bound by bible thumpers and republicans who seem to think that different is unnatural. Maybe one day, people will wake up and get rid of these 50s attitudes. But sadly I dont think so.
finally someone else undertsnds, good. i have known people saying guy on guy n girl on girl shud be illegal i heard people say gayness is an illness and they thot u can treat it! thats pathetic what's the big deal?
@doctorsatanist,,,,,OMG, if someone from the Christian Right see this video, they would have it on every TV network telling people look at what gays did to children in Europe. Unfortunately, in the US, we'll never see this
Even being a gay male I find the kids talking about gay relationships is rather vreemd. But in a good way. Kids do need to know at an early age that is ok for a woman/woman and man/man to be together in a relationship. Somebody said it is corrupting their mind? Oh come on, and this guy even says he's gay? Were not teaching the kids about sex positions, we're teaching them about acceptance of different lives.
Welcome to the netherlands! hahaah omg when this would happen in America the whole country would be in schock!But here, I've never heard anything about this part of the show. And even I watch it most of the time, so it's just normal here in The Netherlands. Thank you for oploading it and spread the love around the world!
See, this is what the world should be like! Most kids in the UK at that age would have no idea. They just think the word gay is an insult. This is why kids NEED to be taught about different lifestyles from an early age. Imagine what rounded, open-minded people those kids will become. Brings a tear to my eye. :)
It's simply sad how you think about those things but you're a christian after all so seriously, i won't go any further on this topic with you. It is pathetic.
No wonder you got those two thumbs down on your comment.
I don't care about a thumbs down...just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean anything...you shouldn't judge someone you don't know...I just so happen to be gay and I don't think children should be exposed to so much when they are so young because children's minds are so easily corruptible...you calling me pathetic for just posting my own opinion and attacking me for it is actually pathetic...please do me a favor and don't comment me again...
"Failure"? What is there to fail? What are you talking about? Your comments don't make sense and neither do you...If you're calling me a failure, then you resulting to name calling is very low and immature of you...People who result to name calling in an argument usually know they are wrong, or are in denial of being wrong, and want to cover it up by being pathetic and result to name calling...and you should know that...
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Well, I am actually a homosexual Christian...if you don't believe that I can be a homosexual and a Christian at the same time, well, then you've never been to America or you're just an idiot talking out his ass...and yes, homosexuality is a subject that children shouldn't be told about until they are old enough to understand it and there are thousands of homsexuals that agree with me here on this part of the world...
On this part too, but no gay would call that "corruption", except a gay with an awfully bad idea of himself. I suppose you also consider you're sinning and will go to hell ?
"but no gay would call that "corruption", except a gay with an awfully bad idea of himself." It is not for you to judge because you are not a homosexual. I do not have a "bad idea" of myself. I enjoy life and knowing that I wont go to hell because I am a Christian. Christ died on the cross for everyone's sins so that they wont go to hell. This means homosexuals too.
But then why, 38G1X, is it corruption? Do you know what most kids go through finding out that they're gay? What if it was just as normal as being straight and kids found it out comfortably at a young age rather than struggling with it and other things in their teen years, thus leading them to cut and occasionally commit suicide? Think before you type next time.
late on this reply but I must disagree with you. "homosexuality" as the simple term of two people of the same sex being in love, should be something a child of any age can be made aware of as a "normal" thing at any age. if you can talk about "heterosexuality" then it is better that a child hears about homosexuality from (unhateful) parents and not from an outside source.
@skyykitten yes next step in open-mindness will be children talking about anal sex, about old uncles making sex with them and all that open mind stuff.
well i think that these kids r smart that they know all about this and I hope they don't change their minds in the future and think it's bad cuz it's not!!^^
AWESOME! Welcome to the civilization. I hope someday other countries rather than just Holand will be as open minded as those kids were! I agree with Bobla!
I think you misunderstand Tom's comment. He's saying that the word actually translates as odd or strange; that that actually *is* the proper translation of what the kids were saying.
World needs to catch up with Netherlands
lukosius1221 4 weeks ago
Rare is more like a mix between seldom and strange. Not like rare as a precious stone for example.
cvaugeois 2 months ago
These kids are adorable. These things need to be open for discussion. It's not a big deal. They are not discussing sex, they are discussing love.
I give props to dutch television for airing this.
inasexymood 8 months ago 4
Hahah, ja homoseksueel zijn is o zo rauw. HAHAHAHA.
kondt 11 months ago
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This should be taught in schools.
IloveRichmondTigers 1 year ago
Rare = zeldzaam, niet raar.
pipojol 1 year ago
poor translation
feramis 1 year ago
The dutch word "raar" means weird, not "rare"
torriedekat 1 year ago
I'm glad that they're discussing this with little kids because kids need to know at a young age that there is nothing wrong with being homosexual
sillykali456 1 year ago
so sick people. Next stage will be how the two fathers do anal sex.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli TOLERANCE, EQUALITY, AND UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WILL ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN. GOD HELP YOUR KIDS IF U HAVE OR EVER HAVE ANY.
dorianstark 1 year ago
@dorianstark you are just another brainwashed kid.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli if being brainwashed into unconditional love,equality ,and tolerance is a bad thing, i will gladly take it. stay in ur lil hate corner. its lonely there.
dorianstark 1 year ago
@dorianstark brainwashed means that you cannot think and you are repeating some cliches and if you think some more you will understand their absurdity.
And they are brainwashing the kids' minds.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli i am clear headed when it comes to who i am. i have always been this way. i never gave in to the brainwashing of hate and intolerance. theres no excuses for the way homosexuals or anyone that gets treated as such. kids need to learn properly. parents are not doing their job.
dorianstark 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli
Brainwashing happened in the Dark Ages, and is dogmatic: the church, the aristocracy and the Bible tells you what's right and what not ("homosexuality is unnatural!")
Age of Enlightenment: men's own reason is the primary source of legitimacy and authority. ("Why would homosexuality be unnatural? If it was unnatural, what's wrong with that?")
The second is what these kids are thought: to base your judgements on one's own reasoning, in stead of repeating opinions of others.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer well, so you want me to blindly believe in the new dogma that this brainwashing to children is normal and I must obey the new Bible of Tolerance, because any intolerance will not be tolerated?:))). This sounds same as Dark Ages...or Pink Ages?
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli I haven't used the word tolerance. The word I did use was: "making judgements on basis of one's own reasoning" (in oppose to repeating other one's opinions without using any form of own reasoning)
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer so what is the problem? My opinion is that these kids are brainwashed to fit into some new standarts, because some lobbies are making their politics in same way the dogmatic religious institutions or any other institution that want to justify theirselves. Of course their bigger power is tolerance. If you have different opinion you are not tolerant.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli The difference between dogmatism and reason is that dogmatists stop asking questions and take the truth that was taught to them for the only truth. A man of reason on the other hand keeps asking questions, and tries to find answers by use of reason. A question could be: "Is teaching children about tolerance good?"
Listening to what the presenter is saying, I hear he only asks questions, and is not giving answers himself to his questions. So how could he be brainwashing them?
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer maybe you should listen more carefully. :-).
So, is teching children about tolerance is good?
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli I think it is good. But I will not teach my children that "tolerance is good", I will teach them to ask questions like the one you asked me: "Is tolerance good?" And I will encourage them to find answers to these questions themselves, by means of reason.
This is what the presenter in the vid is doing as well. Therefore the title of the vid is: "'Preschoolers discuss issues of gays and lesbians", and is not: "Presenter teaches children about gay tolerance".
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer yes it is good to be critical and not just accept the things.
such tv shows are just a program to force people accept homos. About kids, for them is easy, for example, homo is the main insult in the schools that show really interesting archetype in the kids, that this is just wrong.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Wether or not there are such 'archetypes' is a legitimate question, but it is unlikely that they do exist. It is more likely that children are taught to think that being gay is unnatural: the video above proves that; Dutch children are more tolerant towards gays than countries where dogmatic religions are dominant. Like is the case in many Islamic countries, and countries where the Christian church is very influential, like East European countries, Italy and Ireland.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer I don't think so. I am pretty sure what is the main insult as in any school. All this "tolerance" thing is just brainwashing and forcing the children to accept things that are disturbing to their emotional and sexual development.
About archetypes. You can start with Jung.
:-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli The question is not: is "gay" the main insult at school. The question is 'why' it is the main insult: nature (archetype) or nurture.
The video speaks for itself.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer hehe. This video is prepeared to be like this. It is more interesting to see the things without any external influence. They are pure instinctive reaction to the wierd freaks.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli The host only asks questions and repeats what the kids are answering. He doesnt give answers himself, nor does he give hints about the correctness of answers.
So the kids talk freely how they think about the topics. Thats the concept of the program and it exists like that for years. Whether its about, toys, animals, parents, school or: gays.
This video doesnt support that children have an instinctive aversion of gays, in fact it looks like its quite the opposite.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer but you can easily see that it is really strange for them, to discuss about such freaks. The Mother and the Father are archetypes in them. Nothing can change this. And by the way most of the problems come when the things in the family are not in this archetypal way and it is really most important for the sexual and emotional development of the kids.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
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andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli ...about the sexual and emotional development of children: research shows every year again and again that Holland (a liberal and relatively gay friendly country) is one of the happiest countries in the world. While Italy, a country where archetypical and dogmatic thinking is much more influential (catholic church) barely reaches the top 50. It seems that your archetypes doesn't give you a lot of joy.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli
The first teh seconds of the vid sets the tone:
Q: "What does it mean being gay?"
First boy: "Oh, when a man is in love with another man" (no non verbal communication that resembles aversion to gays what so ever)
Second boy: "Or a girl with a girl" (shrugs his shoulders, as if to say: what's the big deal?)
The only 'archetype' visible is that they see love between people of the SAME sex as totally normal
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer it will be interesting if they ask them about cannibals, maybe they will say "a man that loves to eat other men" hehe.
The kids are saying what are told for the show. There are such programs for tolerance to the freaks and for brainwashing the kids. This can cause confusion but still won't change their archtype. The first archetype they have is their family. No doubt why kids have problems when the Father and the Mother have big problems with their development.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Your assertions find no support in the leading scientific research literature. (I dare you to come with just one recent example)
The top 5 happiest countries (including Holland) are also the most gay liberal countries that all implemented 'confusing' laws like gay marriage, gay adoption. Your own country, stuck with the Catholic church and it's dogmatic thinking, is not happy at all. It seems your dogma's and 'archetypes' don't give you a lot of joy, do they?
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer well, it is interesting that you mix the word scientific with "top 5 happiest countries". This hyper subjective thing as happy or unhappy have nothing to do with science. For example I am happy where I live.
Most of these modern researches are not based on empiric evidences and are serving to some lobbies.
About dogmatic stuff, as I said, the new dogma is that you should be tolerant and you won't be accepted if you have different understanding about morals.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli You are critical to research done by others, but fail to be critical on your own irrational, based on no research at all.
You don't seem to know the definition of dogmaticm: religion or institution prescribe what's right. Questioning their dogma's is a sin.
Enlightenment: men's own reason is the primary source of legitimacy and authority, by also *questioning* one's own (stubborn) presumptions: "Why would homosexuality be unnatural?" But also: "Is tolerance good?"
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer no, I am critical to lies. Because most of these researches are not based on objective evidence but they claim to be objective.
About the most happy people. haha for me these are the gipsies. They don't have things like depressions, they live day for a day, dance sing, eat...make children and if they like something they take it (they don't have the dogma that stealing is sin). See black cat white cat ;-). And...they cannot be integrated to the modern western model...cheers
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli A man of reason is critical to ALL assertions, and AFTER careful judgement and reasoning determines whether or not an assertion is a lie or not.
A dogmatist does the opposite: he takes blindly from others assertions for truths or lies.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer I agree with all this. See the movie black cat white cat by Kusturica.
About dogma, I know many people saying such liberal things without even realizing what they are talking about. Just repeating the cliches. I know people that are dogmatic about some things but they understand what and why they've choosen.
I have a friend here from Holland. He seems really happy. Of course he had some problems with our habits, like that is ok to go uninvited for dinner;-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli I am happy that you agree. So you also agree that so far there is no scientific proof:
-that kids have an innate aversion of gays;
-that gays are freaks;
-that although kids are in need of a family, that this family could not consist of same sex parents;
-that kids grow up more confused if they are parented by gays then heterosexuals.
And because of this lack of scientific proof that such assertions are based on existing dogma's rather then logic reasoning.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer hehe, you are mixing the things.
Are cannibals freaks in cannibal society?For example homosexuality was normal in some of thesocieties of ancient greece, but in today's understanding this will be recognized like pedophilia.
Many of the things you listed have better scientific background than your top 5 happiest ganja places. By the way you didn't answer me about the movie. It will put your mind out of the box and you will see what you are missing to be happy. :-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli
What 'better' scientific background are you referring too? Name me just one recent example and link.
The top 5 of happiest countries, and % ganja use happen to be the lowest in Western Europe!: 1. The Netherlands (9.7%) 2. Denmark (13,3%) 3. Finland (8%) 4. Norway (9.6%) 5. Sweden (4.8%)
The country with the MOST ganja use of the EU: Italy (20,9%)
source: European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA), 2009
website: emcdda.europa.eu/stats09/gpsfig4a
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer haha. you said you have critical thinking, so you can find the answers by yourself. I can give you a hint with Jung. There you can dig with the archetypes. But it is not just a link or two.
About the happy countries, I told you. This have nothing to do with science. Btw I am not living in Italy now. So I don't care about your dogmatic prejudices about the Catholic church. I am in the Balkans region.
And so... you haven't watched this movie...shame on you!...;-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Balkan... let me guess: Serb?
I always wondered why so many gay haters here are from Serbia (of course, this is not ment as a scientific proof, in this I might be totally wrong).
And I am not saying you are a Serb either
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer noo serb, but yes, they hate homos...
No I am in a much normal place. But I can tell you only in PM.
By the way I don't hate them, I just don't accept their lies and politics. It is different.
Yes and I am rendering some scenes...but the Kosturica movie is great! A complete another demension of happiness. What about the liberal attitude of the gipsies about stealing stuff? ;-). They are pioneers and the best in this.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli
By the way:
Happiness poll with explanation of the method used:
forbes.com/2010/07/14/world-happiest-countries-lifestyle-realestate-gallup.html
Although you ar right to be critical on such polls, you fail to be critical on your own irrational thinking, based on NO research at all. Lack of self criticism is inherent to dogmatic thinking.
I watch your film later, because I am now editing myself a film. Your non-sencicle and dogmatic reasoning is a welcome distraction however.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer hehehe, why you think it's irrational, because it doesn't fit to your way of thinking? So I must think same as you, right? Toleranquisition. Any intolerance will not be tolerated! Heil! I gave you hints about the researches.
But yo must go deep into the human subconsiousness. The answers are not in the shallow land of the cliches and tolerance.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Your assertions find no support in the leading scientific research literature. (I still dare you to come with just one recent example). Just mentioning "Jung" is not precise enough.
I never propagated 'tolerance' as such. What I do propagate, and have done so in this whole discussion is "making judgements on basis of one's own logical reasoning" In oppose to repeating other one's opinions (Bible, institutions) without using any form of critical reasoning: that's dogmatism
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli With irrational I mean: blindly repeat what others (bible, peers, institutions) have said without use of one's own logic reasoning (with use of examples in scientific literature)
So I am not rejecting your assertions ("gays have politics to brainwash our children"), I am rejecting your assertions that aren't supported by serious scientific evidence. So far you even fail to mention just ONE recent scientific research...
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer Haha Dudeee!
Sooo, (bible, peers, institutions) ...this include and your top moderns scientific researches in which you believe blindly and you think that if something is not in the newest top science researches it is not true. This is also dogmatic thinking. It is not any different. And this is serious topic, if you really have critical thinking ( in which I start to doubt) the hint I gave you will be enough to start.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli It is not the domain of science to talks about 'truths'. A scientific, falsifiable assertion stands, UNTIL some one proofs a assertion is wrong.
Some findings are standing for so long, (the world is round for ex.) that we think maybe dogmatic about it. But it is still free to anyone to proof otherwise.
So it is free for you to proof that for example gay parenting is bad for the child, to falsify the overwhelmingly scientific evidence that proofs the opposite.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer the round Earth is not good example, because this is observable. You don't need to believe in this. It is a fact.
This is not dogma. In same way you tell your kid not to touch the hot-plate. This also is not dogmatic, because it is observable what damage it will cause.
Same there are some principles in our consciousness that are observable, of course they have strong subjective aspect. But these things exist.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli ALL scientific findings should be observable AND possible of being tested for validity by other researchers, even the round earth. That's the difference between science and dogma's: falsifiable finding on one hand, and absolute unquestionable truths on the other. INCLUDING a fact is not absolute, although some are so evident they almost become one.
Dogmatism has to do whether youre capable of questioning things of which you thought they were facts. You seem not capable to do s0
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer Dude you just don't make sense anymore. Go, take a sleep, rethink, make some critics on yourself. Say to yourself "where am I wrong?", "what more I need to read, so I can think out of this decadent pseudointelectual western culture box", and "what I have for breakfast"...the last question have also good reasons!
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli ....just ONE (not two, not three) just ONE recent scientific finding that could support your assertion.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli And one word about your consciousness: come with ONE recent scientific finding that could support your assertion.
According to the positive comments here and the 52 thum ups for mister 'doctorsatanist', at least SOME of us don't have these consciousness problems.
Have you ever even just considered that only because of that 'fact', it could just be as well culture in which you LEARNED that gays are freaks? Learned dogma, never to be questioned, no fact at all?
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli And by the way I'm not blaming you for having these feelings. I find you just extremely dogmatic that you don't seem to be capable of questioning your own "genuine" feelings for it's validity. As a kid I was genuinely afraid for crocodiles underneath my bed, later I found out my own consciousness had fooled me big time!
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer well that explains a lot!!!
Do you want to talk about these crocodiles?
(I just don't want to think what Uncle Zigmund can say about this).
Now seriously. I gave you hint from where to start, and see where this leads. But maybe you are afraid of changing your mind...yes change can be painful! Don't get me wrong this is huge field to discuss, it is not just wiki link that tells you "Earth is kida round".
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli It would be indeed painful to change my view, but I would also be happy that I no longer live a lie.
So enlighten me, what is your source? Which work (and page), and what did Jung specifically asserted about gays? Sample surveys?
Be concrete, and don't give just your 'interpretation' of someone else's work. Thats the realm of dogmatists.
I grow over the crocodile when I was 6: I learned that sometimes my prejudice gives me a false sense of what is real. How about yourself?
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer but you are living in a lie. You are accepting the things blindly even you don't want to read some more and accept something outside of the box you are thinking. I think you are the person with the prejudices and dogmatic thinking. You just can't accept that people can have different understandings. You claim that I use someone else's work, but you are also pointing to someone else's researches. Have you checked and repeated experimentaly every result of the things you know? ;-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli You are critical to research done by others, but you fail to be critical on your own irrational thinking, based on NO research at all. Lack of self criticism is inherent to dogmatic thinking.
So enlighten me, what is your source? Which work (and page), and what did Jung specifically asserted about gays? I am open for valid critics (that's the difference between dogmatists and rational people)
andrekloer 1 year ago
@andrekloer Well dude you are a hypocrate, you are blaming me for not critisizing my views but you don't critisize your own views. Who is the dogmatic freak here?
The sources are different and it won't take to read an article or two, but to dig more and make your own opinion. Of course it is easier to read some forbes and cosmopolitain quizez and horoscopes. This conversation is over for me, because you are too fanatic for free mind, decadent bourgeois western pseudointelectual. ;-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Hypocrite? I never did a statement on my own about gays.
Twice however, I falsified YOUR statements: 1. You said gays confuses children's development and sexuality. I falsified that by stating that in 2009 The most gay liberal countries in the world happen to be also the most happiest countries in the world. Meaning children are apparently happy in these countries. I referenced to research done by Gallup in 140 countries, published in Forbes in 2010 (and many other mass media).
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli 2. You stated that these 'happy' countries are according to you "ganja places". I falsified that by statistics from the EU: these four countries are among the lowest ganja users in the EU! Both statistics from the EU and pols from Gallup are widely known for their accuracy.
You, on the other hand, were not capable of mentioning NO source at all. Meaning your image of homosexuality is only determent by dogma's, then by facts. This is for every body to read in this discussion.
andrekloer 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli Do you also find it inappropriate when kids discuss love between a man and a woman? IT'S LOVE. they aren't talking about sex....get over yourself.
jessicakennon 1 year ago
THIS IS WHAT I CALL EDUCATION! EVERY COUNRY SHOULD BE LIKE THIS!!!
angelgr696 1 year ago
@angelgr696 this is what I call brainwashing.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli You are a classic case of brainwashing, by the damn bible telling you it's wrong to love someone because they are of the same gender.
jessicakennon 1 year ago
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Not the least bit surprising, as these two countries are at the forefront of the apostasy so prevalent in Post-Christian Europe. If that's "light-years" ahead of the U.S.A., I'd hate to see where this country is heading. What the world needs now is a good old-fashioned "Auto-da-Fe" (please Google if you don't know what this term means; it's in Wiki, and not what people think it is), to prune the dead branches off the tree of a decaying Christendom. Where's Dr. Torquemada when you need him?
GasconyKid 1 year ago
Not the least bit surprising, as these two countries are at the forefront of the apostasy so prevalent in Post-Christian Europe. If that's "light-years" ahead of the U.S.A., I'd hate to see where this country is heading. What the world needs now is a good old-fashioned "Auto-da-Fe" (please Google if you don't know what this term means; it's in Wiki, and not what people think it is), to prune the dead branches off the tree of a decaying Christendom. Where's Dr. Torquemada when you need him?
GasconyKid 1 year ago
@GasconyKid
Where this world is heading is too a better place, without stereotypes, where people are accepted no matter their religion, skin color or who they choose to be with.
PeanutButterJelly500 1 year ago
rare is niet raar hoor
rare = uniek
weird = raar
Haxxtt 1 year ago
kids seem confused
DJBrokenHigh 1 year ago
thats horrible...
randomocityvideos 1 year ago
how cute
gofamilyguy01 2 years ago 2
lol these kids are awesome ah at least theres some hope out there ^_^
mut10 2 years ago
the netherlands is the best country in the world!! what liberal and open-minded children!!
markimark03 2 years ago 6
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Scary.
TangLiWheebs 2 years ago
Oh, it's been said before.
LarsHilary 2 years ago
Raar doesn't mean rare. Raar is weird, rare is zeldzaam.
LarsHilary 2 years ago
instead of rare, it should have been translated as 'weird'
yxzerbitch 2 years ago 5
The kids are lovable! I will be proud if that was my kid!
cattyfuzzy 2 years ago 18
the Dutch word "raar" means weird, not rare >_>
Yokka 2 years ago 28
Yes, by all means, let's latch onto the ONE thing that you can bash and worry it to death - eclipsing the message that these children have been taught acceptance of other people and not hatred of anyone different.
furyianfyre 2 years ago 4
@Yokka foute hij zei raare niet raar
jorianpleun 1 year ago
it's not funny whatsoever...
bartuzi 2 years ago
haha these subtitles are a bit bad
0megaD 2 years ago
rare, but nice!... haha lol .. there so cute
sirtom23 2 years ago 5
Is it true that Scandinavian country's have some of the highest suicide rates per capita?
IrishConrad 2 years ago
The video is from the Netherlands which is not a Scandinavian country.
Suicide rate hits 32-year-low in Netherlands
Just over 1,353 people took their lives in the Netherlands in 2007.
25 September 2008
THE NETHERLANDS -- Suicide rate in the Netherlands is at its lowest point since 1975, reports Statistics Netherlands.
For the last 15 years, the Netherlands averaged about 1,500 suicides annually. In 2007, just 1,353 people took their own lives, an 11 percent fall over 2006.
paulluvz269xxx 2 years ago
In Depth: See All 10 of the World's Happiest Places
Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands rated at the top of the list, ranking first, second and third, respectively. Outside Europe, New Zealand and Canada landed at Nos. 8 and 6, respectively. The United States did not crack the top 10. Switzerland placed seventh and Belgium placed tenth.
paulluvz269xxx 2 years ago 2
What did Australia rate?
Treemeadowsbackup 2 years ago
Ik moet nog steeds uitvinden waarom sommige mensen het een probleem vinden als anderen homo seksueel zijn!! Waarom zou je mensen niet gewoon kunnen accepteren zoals ze zijn?
I still have to figure out what the big deal is with people being gay!!! Why can't you accept people as they are??
eeffiieejj 2 years ago
hahaha tooo cute
cphoover11 2 years ago
Hahaha lovely this is real education.
kelipoth 2 years ago
THIS is called "civilization" ! Marvellous!
calais1984 2 years ago 5
ze hebbe allemaal de voortande uit de mond XD
CanariePiet 3 years ago
Helmut
echt süss
helli05 3 years ago
If only kids had a say in things :) Great vid.
OldManStudios 3 years ago 20
xD lol
19lizzy94 3 years ago 4
rare but nice
zubba798 3 years ago 7
Rare = Weird
Jordientje 3 years ago
All the religious nuts here in the USA would blow a gasket over this. The dutch and scandanavians are light years ahead of us. Hats off to them. At least someone in the world isnt totally bound by bible thumpers and republicans who seem to think that different is unnatural. Maybe one day, people will wake up and get rid of these 50s attitudes. But sadly I dont think so.
doctorsatanist 4 years ago 52
you deserve a medal dude!
Jepsertje 3 years ago 9
You deserve a medal.
Jordientje 3 years ago 8
finally someone else undertsnds, good. i have known people saying guy on guy n girl on girl shud be illegal i heard people say gayness is an illness and they thot u can treat it! thats pathetic what's the big deal?
superavrillavignefan 3 years ago 11
I like you! All people should think like you!
Cya m8!
Beer035 3 years ago 3
BEER035
> I like you!
> All people should think like you!
Spot the irony.
gagothesith 2 years ago
@doctorsatanist,,,,,OMG, if someone from the Christian Right see this video, they would have it on every TV network telling people look at what gays did to children in Europe. Unfortunately, in the US, we'll never see this
hellophoenix 2 years ago 2
Even being a gay male I find the kids talking about gay relationships is rather vreemd. But in a good way. Kids do need to know at an early age that is ok for a woman/woman and man/man to be together in a relationship. Somebody said it is corrupting their mind? Oh come on, and this guy even says he's gay? Were not teaching the kids about sex positions, we're teaching them about acceptance of different lives.
AidenIsLove 4 years ago 12
nice dit's the netherlands wecome!!! :P
tommyasnuks 4 years ago
Welcome to the netherlands! hahaah omg when this would happen in America the whole country would be in schock!But here, I've never heard anything about this part of the show. And even I watch it most of the time, so it's just normal here in The Netherlands. Thank you for oploading it and spread the love around the world!
miesos89 4 years ago 9
See, this is what the world should be like! Most kids in the UK at that age would have no idea. They just think the word gay is an insult. This is why kids NEED to be taught about different lifestyles from an early age. Imagine what rounded, open-minded people those kids will become. Brings a tear to my eye. :)
luvjustin 4 years ago 10
Do they go around knocking kids teeth out in Holland, or something? :D
Ossadawn 4 years ago
:D lol
panne86 4 years ago
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Wow, the Dutch are crazy...these are little kids...they shouldn't know these things..
38G1X 4 years ago
pathetic idiot
d4w35l3y 4 years ago
You shouldn't talk about yourself that way...it's strange...
38G1X 4 years ago
It's simply sad how you think about those things but you're a christian after all so seriously, i won't go any further on this topic with you. It is pathetic.
No wonder you got those two thumbs down on your comment.
d4w35l3y 4 years ago
I don't care about a thumbs down...just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean anything...you shouldn't judge someone you don't know...I just so happen to be gay and I don't think children should be exposed to so much when they are so young because children's minds are so easily corruptible...you calling me pathetic for just posting my own opinion and attacking me for it is actually pathetic...please do me a favor and don't comment me again...
38G1X 4 years ago
lol failure
d4w35l3y 4 years ago
"Failure"? What is there to fail? What are you talking about? Your comments don't make sense and neither do you...If you're calling me a failure, then you resulting to name calling is very low and immature of you...People who result to name calling in an argument usually know they are wrong, or are in denial of being wrong, and want to cover it up by being pathetic and result to name calling...and you should know that...
38G1X 4 years ago
Failure for talking about minds being "corruptible" on the gay topic and trying to make us believe you're gay. You just contradict yourself.
Liam2048 4 years ago
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Well, I am actually a homosexual Christian...if you don't believe that I can be a homosexual and a Christian at the same time, well, then you've never been to America or you're just an idiot talking out his ass...and yes, homosexuality is a subject that children shouldn't be told about until they are old enough to understand it and there are thousands of homsexuals that agree with me here on this part of the world...
38G1X 4 years ago
On this part too, but no gay would call that "corruption", except a gay with an awfully bad idea of himself. I suppose you also consider you're sinning and will go to hell ?
Liam2048 4 years ago 4
"but no gay would call that "corruption", except a gay with an awfully bad idea of himself." It is not for you to judge because you are not a homosexual. I do not have a "bad idea" of myself. I enjoy life and knowing that I wont go to hell because I am a Christian. Christ died on the cross for everyone's sins so that they wont go to hell. This means homosexuals too.
38G1X 4 years ago
But then why, 38G1X, is it corruption? Do you know what most kids go through finding out that they're gay? What if it was just as normal as being straight and kids found it out comfortably at a young age rather than struggling with it and other things in their teen years, thus leading them to cut and occasionally commit suicide? Think before you type next time.
FiniteSunrise 4 years ago 8
yea yea .... :D
ushouldnobynow 4 years ago
late on this reply but I must disagree with you. "homosexuality" as the simple term of two people of the same sex being in love, should be something a child of any age can be made aware of as a "normal" thing at any age. if you can talk about "heterosexuality" then it is better that a child hears about homosexuality from (unhateful) parents and not from an outside source.
robaralis 2 years ago 2
i much rather have the openminded dutch then represssed americans
markusgl1 4 years ago 7
whatever...
38G1X 4 years ago
i agree with you. i saw this clip and was so happy to see there was a chance for the human race.
justdarc 4 years ago 5
I'm glad that some american people have
respect to the gay people. People have to
believe that is not some like the "black death" of antrax. Gay/ lesbi(an) is normal!
Custom88 4 years ago 3
Leukk..:)
nienke12345 5 years ago
"Raar" means weird, not rare:P
mouaii 5 years ago 2
"Vreemd" means weird, "raar" means rare.
Skokkie 4 years ago
no, I am dutch, so I know what I'm talking about.
"vreemd" and "raar" both mean the same thing, "rare" in dutch would be "zeldzaam". therefore:
vreemd/raar = weird/strange
zeldzaam = rare
mouaii 4 years ago 2
thats was great
bessaa 5 years ago
I was in this show to..! but the didn't put me on youtube..;)
tedybeer 5 years ago
ohhh that was so so cute.
ifeelyourfever 5 years ago
Very funny this is one of the most funniest things i have ever herd, cant wait for these kids to get to highschool lol
JoeThephantom 5 years ago
haha cool :)
Frankster1983 5 years ago
That's adorable. I like 'lesbi' a whole lot better than 'lesbian'. From now on I'm no longer a lesbian, I am...LESBI!
Chuyuri 5 years ago
Well, in Dutch it's actually "Lesbisch" (you can hear the host say it), but the kid said "Lesbi" instead:P
mouaii 5 years ago
That's very cute! I hope that kindness and open mindedness like this becomes more common.
skyykitten 5 years ago 2
@skyykitten yes next step in open-mindness will be children talking about anal sex, about old uncles making sex with them and all that open mind stuff.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli I find it appropriate to want to reply to this by calling you a dick.
bakabakashiineko 1 year ago
@bakabakashiineko yes, when you don't have any arguments. It is normal for the brain washed tolerance.
They must teach the kids also what is pedofile, zoofile, necrofile....
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli You're making shit up.
bakabakashiineko 1 year ago
@bakabakashiineko ok
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli YOU CLEARLY ARE TOO SEX OBSESSED. THERES MORE TO HOMOSEXUALITY AND HETEROSEXUALITY THAN SEX.
dorianstark 1 year ago
bad subtitles...
are these subtitles done by an english speaking person who knows some dutch or the other way around?
BakjeLeip 5 years ago
By some person who has english as 3rd language and dutch as fifth...
fluffythecat 5 years ago 2
This is the way kids should be taught and grown up. The kids who are taught by religious nutjobs are not well off at all.
Omithy 5 years ago 5
Oops, i marked ur comment as spam accadentally.. Sorry world!
Anyway.. was gonna agree wiv ya lol :p
lhaven 5 years ago
omg wow. only in like europ can they have 6 year olds sayin the word 'homo'
BruinzBaby 5 years ago
well i think that these kids r smart that they know all about this and I hope they don't change their minds in the future and think it's bad cuz it's not!!^^
animetay 5 years ago 3
YEAH go nederland!!:)
Haha ze zijn zo schattig!
Ik kyk altijd naar deze show:D
Ahaa they are so cute!
I watch this always!
mlniie 5 years ago
AWESOME! Welcome to the civilization. I hope someday other countries rather than just Holand will be as open minded as those kids were! I agree with Bobla!
So cute AHHAHAHA
ronaldofujii 5 years ago 3
Ya know, when i subtitled this video my knowledge of Dutch was pretty limited... ;)
fluffythecat 5 years ago
Bad subtitling. The word rare should be replaced with weird or strange.
Tom64 5 years ago
I feel it should be replaced with the translation of what the kids were saying. Lets not make the presumption that they were saying 'weird'.
lhaven 5 years ago
I think you misunderstand Tom's comment. He's saying that the word actually translates as odd or strange; that that actually *is* the proper translation of what the kids were saying.
Kiarboz 5 years ago 2
aha
kirantomchuk 5 years ago
holland holland :D
only in the netherlands, a christian channel with kids who talk about lesbians/gay and such marriages :D
(its dutch! theres a serious difference, honest)
koffiegast 5 years ago
GAY RIGHTS!
btbam2266 5 years ago
This is a Dutch show. The Netherlands.
Takje 5 years ago
This show is broadcasted by a Christian channel. Can you even imagine that ever to happen in the VS?
Takje 5 years ago
Is this German?
jabberwocky1969 5 years ago
gosh darn americans. i swear those americans are soo bad. rofl
winniethepoohownsyou 5 years ago
So true Bobla
Oner4life 5 years ago
dude thats well cute, was sooo nice to watch it again
thanks
Spike
spikebrit 5 years ago
Really sweet....Let's pray that the United States could ever be so enlightened....Kids are taught how to love and hate by adults.....
chuckfll 5 years ago