Xheli Exceed RC Blue Ray 450. Crash, Repair, & Test Flights.

[icebuddy11]

hi, i have a question and i hope you can answer it, i got a new helicopter with a tail rotor, when i turn on the helicopter and start to give it power to lift off, the helicopter starts to spin out of control, am i doing something wrong?

[aerialboy55]

Dave,I crashed my BlueRay! I broke one of the stock servos, Will those little blue servos work better, because i have 5 of those sitting around doing nothing!

[michel09xx]

hi. I enjoy every video you post on youtube and I would like you to recommend me which simulator to buy.... I am a begginer. and I need to start flying in a sim.....thaks a lot.....

eduin from honduras....

[298linx]

Hi Dave, can you please tell me how to set up my belt cp v2 tail? At zero pitch the heli spins fast, there is no belt slip at all. Thanks

[blackhawk438]

heehheheheh mygosh you really did cleverly avoid buying new parts by doing those insane things to fix it.

[3255959]

personally I think exceed should have sent you a new copter since it was there flaw and not pilot error...But i guess it does'nt work that way...great repair job... As long as it can still handle the abuse of crazy 3 d flying your're good to go..

[debay777]

progamerIII - You have no idea who dave is. This guy has been flying R/C helos since before they were mainstream. He has forgotten more about flying anything R/C than most will ever know. So dont start casting judgment till you know.

[bigednycles]

dave whats the difference in the flybarless head setup thats sold to fly the heli with out it. then the other head setup thanks

[5c0u53]

No disrespect but bending shafts back to straight by hand ? pffft you wont be flying near me any time soon.

[progamerIII]

i put them in a metal lathe, use a dial indicator u can get them within .001" and never tell from new

[ZzStev3NzZ]

when will you upload more videos im getting pretty bored and i have waited for 2 weeks and theres no new videos please upload more

From: Steven nguyen

[Gourvelos]

Talk about be resourceful, I find I rob and pinch parts parts from anything that will do the job.

But bending the main shaft back without taking it off, I have never seen that... I always straighten mine out by placing them into a drill and I have a piece of wood outside with a hole the size of the main shaft and the size of the flybar and I simply push it into the hole while leaning on it till it becomes straight, works well on non hardened shafts and flybars. I will try just bending it next.

[Cartuner25]

Hey Dave! Since it's around Christmas time, of course I want an rc plane. Would you recommend the new Hobbyzone Super Cub LP? I am pretty new to flying

[HeliGeeks]

Is that a model shop or your garage?

[progamerIII]

his garage

[mgrande11]

I've never heard of bending back a main and tail shaft by hand and getting it straight.

[bradfordaldenadams]

I got a question why did you glue the gears together? no auto rotation now right?

[midnitedan]

Hey Nightflyer'

I was wondering what you made your

orange pontoons out of? They make the heli

really easy to see. Thanks for all the great

videos.

[Okobojibluegill]

Ha, when it comes to fixing we think a like. I decided 5 minute JB weld works best on the blades. I was making a video to show how I built my test /training stand and the paddle flew off my fly bar and I looked and looked all afternoon before I gave up, a week later I was cleaning my stove and found it under the stove top. Lol :))))

[TheCrazy135]

Hi can you make a video review on ESky Honeybee CP3 thank you

[NightFlyyer]

If I get one, I assure you I will.

[TheCrazy135]

thanks

[delsolly]

hello dave

again a really great vid ,, nice repair..

me and my wife love to see your vids,,

greets from holland,,

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks very kindly for your comments. Welcome Holland!

[vfatnuts]

YA i would like to come out there lol get out off here lolol

[mauersegler79]

incredible repair job...i would probably have replaced all the parts with the expensive original ones...not to mention the delivery time for spares to arrive. Im amazed you didnt get bad vibration with the hand-straightened shafts.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Well it takes some patience to get them bent back close as possible, These weren't bent very far. It only takes a slight bit of pressure to bend even a new shaft. Believe me, in 40 years of helis, this slight bending is not a problem, nor is tape to balance. Thanks again for your comments.

[rizzathecat]

that test stand is a fantastic idea bravo I like that it allows you to trim no just the rudder as you would with the lazy Susan turn table type stands but also the cyclic functions. very good idea im gona to try to make one myself.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. Yep it works really well for me. Check out my videos on it. There are 2, and the parts and building instructions are in the description box.

Go for it.

[N5omn1ac]

couldn't agree more!! so brilliant and simplistic I'm kicking myself for not coming up with that idea... searching for those building vids now!!! U just dusted off my Heli!!!!!

[vfatnuts]

Thanks for getting bk to me out of all the people on here besides nuttcaze u get bk to us when you read them thanks

[NightFlyyer]

Your welcome It is difficult, especially when a video runs a while and the message become overwhelming....but I try. I want people to learn and not be afraid of RC helicopters. Respect them but not be afraid.

[ElectronTeacher]

Hi Dave:

That was a very nice repair job on the Blue Ray! I had never thought about rebending those shafts for fear they

would break! Pretty cool that I am still

learning new tricks - (but maybe on a very gentle learning curve)!

I've been down with the flu these past three weeks, so I am three weeks behind on sending you something we had talked about on the phone.

I have pretty much everything to go, so

I'll try to send it in the next week to ten days. ElectronTeacher

[NightFlyyer]

Haha. Thanks kindly. You know, those shafts arent brittle, so just bend. I once got a new Honeybee in the box and the shaft was bent on that. It takes surprising little pressure to bend a new one, or to bend it back. It just takes a lot of patience to get it just right. Bummer to hear about the flu. It sure is troublesome this year. Thanks. Take your time and get well. Dave

[iamtherealzim]

once again... showing me all kinds of toys that I would love to have! :(

Can you do a video on 2.4ghz radios and which you would suggest as a good all around.

Thanks much!

Great video!

[eggyhed]

Dave, glad to see you got that bad boy back in the air,lol, nice repair job, happy the spare parts worked for ya.....Bob

[vfatnuts]

hey dive i am new to flying and i was hoping that u could do a video on how to in stall a camera on a honry bee v2 if not that is all good...thanks

[NightFlyyer]

Hi and welcome. I use the lightest cameras first off, like the 18Gram one shown on the tail rotor in the thumbnail of this video. I use Velcro, as it is the most versatile, yet strong enough to do a good job at reasonable speeds. So try that. Try to mount the camera, so you can see the heli or plane and the ground. Good luck.

[SoCalsandman780]

Nice job, Dave. I just picked up some Amazing Goop the other day when we were in CA. Hopefully I won't need to use it anytime soon, haha! I noticed another bike in the garage. Did you get a new one? BTW, we are currently in Lansing, MI. Still, it's colder where you are, LOL! "Live long and Prosper." :-)

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks Scott, Good on the goop. Next time your fan belt breaks........

Yes, for almost nothing, I picked up an 82 750 Honda Nighthawk for my wife. It wasn't running, so I did some of my "repair work" and got it going like this helicopter. She may be 65, but she can really ride that thing. Now in 6 months, we hope to get both bikes out again when the snow thaws. Thanks for the kind words, and you ll&p.

[777muzzy]

It's always a great feeling to get a damaged bird back in the air. Well done. Do you still fly the Blade 400 very much or do you prefer the Blue Ray?

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks much. To tell you the truth, I fly the Blue Ray more. I like it a lot, especially all the metal.

[SEBratt]

Very cool Dave! Another 5 star video sir!

[NightFlyyer]

And thank you sir!

[beverke7]

great to see the Blue Ray fly again ! Love the sound of this birdie, well done Dave. The weather is crappy in Belgium, a lot of rain lately, then cold, then again rain...fingers crossed for some nice and calm sunny days.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. It snowed here last night, so I am pretty much done with outdoor flying for at least 4 months.

Is it rainy and cold there, or warm rain? Ill fly in warm rain. LOL.

[SoCalsandman780]

You sa y that now....LOL!

[oconano]

I really want to see a vid of Dave duct taping a real helicopter blade together. =)

[NightFlyyer]

We repaired Carbon fibre blades temporarily in Nam with a kind of duct tape to get the helis out of the hole. We did anything we could, and I guess it carried over to me today. This blade was just a chip, no spar damage, so no problem anyway.

[rfurman28]

good job Dave its always a pleasure to see you work

[NightFlyyer]

I thank you for your comments sir.

[rikkihalomaster]

it 200mph tape duck tape is

[startazz]

Yet again you come up trumps with one of your plans ;-) you can't beat a how to video of Daves people = 5*

[NightFlyyer]

Haha. Thanks kindly sir.  Yours aren't so bad either, you know. :-)

[bendover90]

dave im not doubtign you but if you bend the shafts back would that not stress them?

like when you benda biro it bends then breaks

[NightFlyyer]

Slightly bent is different. These shafts are hard, and will bend back easily without breaking.

[bloodhound122]

Dave your one thorough dude great vid as usual i couldn't tear myself away *******again if i learn anything from your vids it is take your time and make sure its rite while its on the ground lol

[NightFlyyer]

I appreciate your loyalty sir. Thank you and good advise. Yep just another thing in the lessons of flying. Now I will have to make sure to look at the flybar paddles and the 2 grub screws that hold the flybar in. Thanks.

[allgunzsblazen]

another great vid! dig the music ! who?

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. Music is what I made up on my editing software, no real name. Just synthesized.

[stot2614]

Pretty neat little heli training stand there... do you sell them Dave? I might need one if I get a 400 or 450 class chopper.

[MarshFacev2]

Why not just make your own? It would be extremley simple.

[stot2614]

Really MarshFacev2... I am not the mechanical type. If there is something like this out there, I would really be interested in buying it. I am lucky that I am able to figure out how to comepletely dissassemble my helis and put them back together again. If you don't have the thing right in front of you, how can you put one together? That is how I learn... watching something live (In front of me) and then applying that to my own repairs. I just learn differently I guess.

[MarshFacev2]

Fair enough. Thankyou for actually replying to my comment in a half way intelligent manner (not very common on YouTube)

[stot2614]

No problem... it is the truth of course. I am amazed that I can totally strip down my own Blade CX2 and fix my mSR. Nobody but the guy at the hobby shop and I have ever fixed it. I just was interested in seeing if the heli "stand" was sold. I guess I could make my own from Mr. Herbert's Science Class, lol!

[NightFlyyer]

Watch my 2 videos on the stand. You will see how to make your own by looking at mine. If you can take a heli apart and put it back together, you can certainly do this, as there are only 2 moving parts. LOL. Go for it.

[thechoosendude]

Just FYI, whenever you balance main blades with anything (be it tape, etc), you need to make sure the additional weight you add is added as close to the inside of the blade as possible.

Adding anything affects the airfoil design, and by adding weight to the inside of the blade, you are adding it to the "slower" section of the blade, so the effects won't be noticed as much.

[NightFlyyer]

Static balance means both blades are the same wt, but when they spin, (tape) on the inside is so negligible, that youd have to add a lot more tape, than the 1 in. piece I added. I move it in & out to balance when spinning, but in this case it spun perfectly the 1st time. If you saw what we were inventing and flying 40 years ago, you would see that the "tape" is the least concern. Tape does not noticeably change the airfoil. It's same shape as the wing blade so same airfoil.Tracking fixes.

[aggressiveman666]

wher do u get those orange float things? im making a heli and i want some so i can see it in the air

[ssrc30]

@aggressiveman666

Those are just them water wing things you get for your kids. Check out the vid like iceyuok said to, you cant go wrong:)

[ramis182]

wow, that's kind of ironic how the fly bar failed. do you know why it did what it did? anyway, good job on the repairs and i look forward to the next video, nice video as usual.

[NightFlyyer]

Those flybar paddle really spins at 3d speed, so I assume it simply flew off, and the tremendous force caused the 2 grub screws that hold the flybar in place to simply slip. Now I got another preflight Item to look at before flying. The best thing about crashing, as at least when you put it back together, you know it is right. Thanks for the kind words.

[sshukri0]

Hey Mr. Herbert, long time viewer first time commenter. I got kind of a personal question for you. After all these years in the hobby if you had to guess, how much money do you think you have invested over the years

[NightFlyyer]

I have spent a lot of money on the hobby in the last 53 years, for sure, but really never could afford it. I plugged along and like in this video, I fix a lot of things I break on my own, especially since parts are nil around here. I also try not to do stupid things anymore that causes crashes. Most of my helicopters, even old ones still fly because of it.

[UnstoppableSlinky]

I'm buying a super cub, any advice?

[BuffaloWarrior7]

Dont crash...

Dont forget to keep a timer going so you know when you'll be low on fuel a lot of people forget and dead stick.

[siresoul2]

is it from hobbyzone?

[NightFlyyer]

Yes.

[wavewash]

Fly when there is no wind. And fly high to give yourself plenty of time to recover when you lose control. Line the plane up for landing high up and then focus on bringing her straight in nice slow and level. Don't turn with low power for landing near the ground, you'll tip stall.

[NightFlyyer]

Fabulous plane. Make sure an instructor test flies it and trims it for you, and stands by to land it for you. That one tip will save you lots of time and money over the years, and in that one lesson, you will learn the most.

So try to find a helper and good luck.

[wavewash]

Is it just my hearing or is there sound vibration you can hear from the rotor spinning up when you're flying in your front yard?

[ehakan2]

No you aren't. Bent (yes still) main shaft causes this. Main gears' turning plane changed and than it loses the gear mesh relation with pinion gear. Thats the source of that sound.

Besides significantly blade tracking is needed.

I highly recommend not to try to repair blades. Otherwise you can (or can't) see a part of blade flying through to you in addition flybar and paddle whether it is logical or not.

Thanks for great video Mr. Herbert.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. I have repaired blades, tweaked, bent, and made things for my helis for over 40 years, (real ones and models too) the tape is negligible. Putting tape on the inside requires more tape than the outside to balance. It also makes a nice stripe to see in the air. It does not affect the airflow on this one and as you can see, it is flying smooth as silk, making it hard to argue with success.

[Xboxlove1]

you have a lot of neat stuff in there!

im confused though, are you like a shop? or just built a room with all your stuff. thanks!

[bosshogg013641]

he has a BUNCH of stuff he collected over the years lol

[NightFlyyer]

I just moved here 3 years ago from California and started putting all my modeling stuff in here. This is my garage and shop, plus it's where I can escape, to get out of the house. LOL. Thanks for your comments.

[BonerHammerman]

Great video .......as usual.......I learn alot from you.........could you send me your nine heil tips and test stand construction stuff.................thanks..­....

[NightFlyyer]

Both are away in a PM. Good luck and thanks for the comments.

[marybob321]

heeeyy were u been i like ur vids but u never make any

[NightFlyyer]

Haha. Take a look at the right side of the video and click on "more from Nightflyyer." You will see a list (344) of all the videos I have produced in order, newest to oldest.

[12ock]

well i got some pointers... someday i'll buy an rc remote control chopper

[NightFlyyer]

Good. Have fun and thanks.

[son8god8damn]

i bet it is so hard to pick which rc you want to fly.. lol show all of them plz

[NightFlyyer]

Gosh, I am trying, I am trying.

[gripchion]

The test stand is an excellent idea I've never seen that before.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Me neither, till I designed this. LOL  I appreciate your comments.

[helicopterkid1996]

It's cold there! Over here in the falls it's in the 50's!

[NightFlyyer]

Well come on over for some "cold weather training" LOL.

[truckeejp]

You should put a camera on the Heli'

[NightFlyyer]

My 3d video will have the camera on the tail rotor. See the thumbnail of this video. It is a done deal. Stay tuned.

[bedbugg1]

Is it me, or can you see a little bit of instability on the helicopter? but great repair nonetheless!

[NightFlyyer]

The instability is me fighting the "wind rotors" off the back of my house. LOL Thanks.

[traxxashpilover]

another great vid 5*

[NightFlyyer]

Very kind. Thank you.

[Liowen]

Nice affordable fix in this weakened economic time thanks "Hannibal".

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly.

[exiledconnections]

another great video dave im gonna send you a message

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. I have over 3000 PMs I am trying to get caught up on.  Ill see if I can find yours. Thanks for being patient too.

[locouk]

One other thing, I was told helicopters fly much better in the cold. What would be the reason for this, if that's true?

Thanks for another great video Dave.

[NightFlyyer]

It is true. It is because the air is denser. Thanks for the kind words.

[locouk]

With your test stand, can you attach some scales to see what lift the helicopters have? Oh, BTW, what happened to the high def video camera? 5 stars all the same!!!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. I might be able to hook up a scale. Something to think about. I took all this with HD, but it takes about 2 hours for YT to process it. See the notice above the video? When it is done processing, it will be clear.

[videoguy837]

@NightFlyyer When I upload a new video, I mark it as "private" at first. This keeps it out of site from everyone but myself. When YouTube has completed all HD processing, then I mark the video as "public". This way, nobody sees the temporary low resolution video.

[NightFlyyer]

That is good advice. Thank you kindly.,

[locouk]

Good tip Videoguy837, I've recently gotten an HD cam. The low res didn't cross my mind with the process time, so I've made myself look like a real twat! Lmao ;o)

[thedarklordsknigh]

love how you fixed that for next to nothing do you do gas powered fliers or do you just stick with electric

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. I fly them both. See my Pitts goes down in a corn field video.

[exiledconnections]

holy crap!!!! dayum i hope my blue ray doesnt do that i use my m1100g glue on the threads when i change flybars

[NightFlyyer]

Yep, definitely another thing to look for before flight.  Thanks.

[iissyy123]

nice vid

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly.

[azatecas]

nice video

[NightFlyyer]

Thank you.