While myself and many others would agree with what you said, please try to never ever use the phrase "F-bomb" again. That's the most pathetic way of sugar-coating the word fuck I've ever heard, usually always spoken by prudish, ultra religious Yanks. *sigh*
It's because Webber is never given a chance and finally he gets one and that German loser called Vettel hits him because he can't drive. Now he's learning. Just he has a car that is 1.2 seconds faster than the McLaren's and Ferrari's at some circuits. So he's only about the 10th fastest driver.
You have to feel for him after gutting it out through the race (vomiting in the cockpit but still continuing on) and then he's put out by getting rammed from behind during the safety car... Vettel was inconsolable after that too though. But to think they ended up teammates... Love the f-bomb on live TV :)
Mark Webber crashes into far more people than Vettel, even in 2010 Webber hit more people. He can't help fucking up because he is a joke as a F1 driver.
@Euclides287 Raikonnen was very good before 07, he seemed to stop enjoying racing in his later years. Vettel is just bad. Worst world champion in history.
@64Fabby Massa had more points than Kimi before he was forced to retire after his accident in Hungary.
The problem of most F1 fans is, many of you guys have short term memory and completely forgot how Kimi was being outclassed by Massa for the second season in a row. That´s why they kept Massa and got rid of Kimi. As for Vettel, he only proved that he can win races with a dominant car, he can´t win unless he starts on the front row & can´t overtake when under pressure in the championship.
if Massa did have more points then it was not many, lest us forget Kimi took the great Schumacher on and , in inferior machinery, almost beat him in 2003 (so yes it looks like you have the short term memory). I definitely know the bit about Vettel is wrong, Monza in 2008 in a Torro Rosso? In my opinion a better drive for him being finishing 4th in Shanghai in the 2nd slowest car? He's a phenomenal driver, you can't deny that
@64Fabby 2nd slowest car? Toro Rosso and Red Bull Racing shared chassis designs until 2009, and the Toro Rosso had the more powerful Ferrari engine. The Toro Rosso was more competitive than the Red Bull in 07/08.
@Wibbahh they were identical at the beginning of 2007. but as months passed by, toro rosso had aero updates later and later than red bull. so red bull was faster at the end of the year than toro rosso. horsepower is less important than aero in formula-1, especially since engine development was freezed.
not to mention vettel beats webber regularly these days.
@gmiky no question that Vettel is better, but my point is that the Torro Rosso outfit was much more competitive back in 07/08 than it is now. And in 08 the STR3 had very steady and effective development so I would say that it may have had the edge over RBR at a lot of tracks, specifically Monza and Spa
@WarmFanta Not a chance, 2007/2008 with Vettel were the best seasons. I think that 2011 was also good and that the Buemi and Alguesuari battle was great. The STR7 is at least the best looking 2012 car so far, it may also be competitive. I think the Verge - Ricciardo battle will also be interesting.
@64Fabby NO seb had the best cars. hes still a great driver but kimi and alonso are better and felipe was one point away from being world champion and after his crash hes never been the same. BTW red bull is built around seb not mark for example in 2010 webber was doing well with his setup that he had and finally got a front wing that suited him, but then they took it off his car and put onto sebs and that is fucking favoritism. Forza KIMI
@fiwo2 First of all Kimi is World Champion....he is one of the most liked and watched drivers in the world, if you didnt know that...And what I think is that Kimi now wants to return to Williams, to show that he IS committed and motivated about F1 once again....I've even heard that Kimi is willing to do lot more PR stuff than what he did before. He wants to show that because he knows it's the only way for him to get to better team, to Mercedes or even RedBull when Schumi or Webber retires.
@fiwo2 Well what kind of question is that?...If he didnt care, why would he even be talking with Williams? Kimi clearly wants to come back, he has openly admitted that himself. Sure it wasnt that long ago when he said that he would only return to team that would be able to fight for the championship..but recently Kimi said that look what has happened this season...none could challenge RedBull and Vettel, so Kimi himself understands and accepts that he just cant get to best team possible righ now
@blondboyharrison Mark wasn't a "kid" in F1 in the same manner as Vettel. Mark was in his mid20's when he moved to F1 after racing sportscars for Mercedes.
Also in my understanding many people ARE missing Kimi and want to see him back in F1...well except for Spanish people and some Italianos, who didnt like Kimi...for the past few months F1 media has been writing and talking lot about these rumors of Kimi returning, and the biggest F1 magazine in the world interwieved Kimi and he was on the front page....
So I can bet that no matter Kimi's future team in F1 might be, reporters will be all over him in Melbourne next March, if he indeed returns.
@fiwo2 Well in my understanding when Mclaren offered Kimi contract back then in 2009, Kimi had already set his mind to go to WRC...and another thing was that Ferrari/Santander wouldnt have paid Kimi one dollar if he had went to driver to another F1 team....so even though Kimi didnt drive 1 meter of Ferrari in 2010, he got the full sallary of that season + more money from Santander, cause they really wanted to buy Kimi out of Ferrari....If Kimi had go to Mclaren, he would lost millions
@fiwo2 yeah, that what I said, if he doesnt improve next year, RedBull might replace him with one of their younger drivers, or even Kimi, if Raikkonen returns next year as Williams driver and proofs that he is still just as skillfull driver and most importantly motivated...ofcourse it could be that Webber himself would want to retire after 2012, but we just have to wait and see.
@TheBrandond20 Well Massa is sure to fly out of Ferrari, maybe already even after this year....I mean sure he has contract with Ferrari for next year, but so did Kimi for 2010, but contracts can always be broken with enough money....recently there have been some rumors that Rosberg might replace Massa already after this season (and that in return would open place in Mercedes for Kimi already )
Hahah...Well now that "kid" is totally beating him, isnt he xD.
Vettel couldnt even help Webber take second place in the champsionship, even if he wanted to, since Webber cant finish even on podium....and he hasnt take even 1 victory this season.
I have a feeling that unless next year Webber doesnt improve, that will be his last year.
@dfkiller8823 Dude ,no one builds a car around one driver...that'd be idiotic.The team wants the constructors title because that's where the money is and in order to do that both drivers have to be fairly competive/winnig races/being very consistent...And besides that Vettel is a kid ,is he really smart enough to give the right feedback and to know exactly how to make it work for him?Even if he is nobody would take that risk with Sebs background of being a crash kid...
@PeppiBle well you are looking at the iceberg. but what you see is wayyy bigger than what you dont see. a team even earns more money from sponsorships than title win. and what vettel brought team was huge sponsors backing him.
@ThecJc541spec30 IDK I was all but intrested in F1 those days...I've heard stuff from both sides but I can't make a statement based on my opinion mainly because I don't have one...
@Phoenix1664 Did you not watch the race? Lewis pulled out of the spray of the safety car and slowed right down, and because overtaking isn't allowed, mark had to jump on the brakes and sebastian drove straight into mark. That's what this has to do with Hamilton.
@Phoenix1664 In the drivers briefing on thursday before the race all the drivers agreed to maintain a constant speed behind the safety car. Lewis pulled way off line and slowed down, Seb assumed he had a problem and went into the back of Webber who slowed also. Seb is not without blame but Lewis caused the crash.
Numpty - Seb won in a torro, an inferior car to the majority of back then. Whilst winning in an inferior car is mostly unlikely, the better drivers are picked based on their performance with an inferior car. Schumi @ spa in a Jordan is another example thats clearly evident.
Re Webber - all he sees nowadays is back of Sebs car but he still needs powerful binoculars!
@nunam0n On that day in 2008, the STR was arguably the fastest car. Don't forget, in the wet earlier tha weekend they also set the fastest lap in a session. The Ferrari engine gave the STR an apparent 4 tenth advantage over the Red Bull drivers by itself. And Vettel was already signed for Red Bull before the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. Coulthard announced his retirement at Silverstone and Red Bull announced the signing of Vettel the day after.
@gashhead101 no in this case he was talking about Vettel. It was only until later on that Vettel was relieved of his 10 place grid penalty due to a YouTube video showing the incident from a different angle and the incident was reinvestigated!
@lordwager9998 give us an example of him cheating. Oh wait you can't because he doesn't cheat and the scrutineering that EVERY car has to go through says so!
@scubbiesrules -- tis true ... Vettel holds many records (most have to deal with him being the youngest to everything), while Mark lost the only chance he'll ever have a WDC last year in a ridiculous fashion ... way to go Seb 2 time winner !!!!!! Webber is a permanent #2 just like Rubens and Massa LOL
@scubbiesrules The only reason Seb is where he is, is because he got into Redbull at the right time, plus he is a very very good driver. Put him in the crappy teams the same as Webber was, we would hardly know who he is. You can be an amazing driver in a slow car. Look at Michael for example. If he was in Seb's seat.........
@dedygho it's all very well talking about this in hindsight but the fact was that vettel plowed into the back of webber knocking them both out of the race and costing webber a podium, plus vettel was 20 or so at the time.
@hamiltonlegend24 it's a race in full wet... collision is very likely to happen... especially when you're driving f1 car... consider that webber crashed into kovalainen last year despite being much more experienced than vettel was... i didn't hear kovalainen bitching about webber... webber should know he has a much faster car... too much red bull so he gets 'high'???
@dedygho it was behind the safety car. They both had a chance of getting a lot of points for teams that weren't in the fight. at the time the torro rosso was very much the sister team of redbull.
@hamiltonlegend24 yuppp. it's a rookie mistake from vettel. but hamilton also contributed to the crash when he veered off and brake, prompting webber to brake (overtaking under safety car is not allowed). i'm guessing vettel didn't anticipate webber slowing down and hence the collision.
@dedygho yeh i was going to mention that. hamilton did play a part. but i think the main reason webber is angry is because he could have had a podium and both redbull and torro rosso could have had good results. Put it another way he would be just as angry if he went for a move on vettel in the torro rosso and he didnt yield so they collided taking them out of the race. It was more the fact it was a torro rosso than vettel in particular
@hamiltonlegend24 i'm guessing webber would still be angry whoever crashed into him... he probably would've called rubens grandpa if he crashed into him...
@dedygho true. well I mean look how lewis reacted after monaco 2011. he was fed up. he thought he wasnt in the wrong when clearly he was. though i think the maldonado incident was more two sided than people seem to think. It is just heat of the moment stuff. I only really commented on this because of all the people who are merrily dismissing webber because vettel is now schooling him. so i go back to my first point. all very well with the benefit of hindsight
@hamiltonlegend24 anyway vettel is better than webber. 3 years as teammates and he always finished higher in the championship. even this year, he only managed 1 win despite having a championship winning car and that's when vettel was having transmission glitches. even lewis and button got more win despite having an inferior car.... put lewis or button in the red bull and this year would be a much more contested season.
@dedygho you're just further proving my point. this is all with the benefit of hindsight. has nothing to do with if seb is better than mark.Im trying to explain the why Mark reacted the way he did. How was he supposed to know that this guy would now be a double world champion, it came to bite him in the ass. But in the heat of the moment it was a rookie error from vettel
@Armadillo0014 What do you think im doing up at this time on a saturday morning for? ive been up since 6 to watch qualifying. And no, those comments wasnt turkey 2010 they was fuji 2007, louise goodman worked for itv until 2009 when it switched to bbc, since then its been leigh mckenzie thats how i know that comment isnt from 2010.
Did you not read that i said the word "resembles" meaning they had the same drama in 2010. I dont give a shit when you wake up or what station you are watching from. The resemblance is funny.
@Armadillo0014 The resemblence is yes, ironic too. My point is you originally said it was fom 2010, when you clearly have no idea what your talking about and then realised your mistake!
Professional race drivers always drive to their limits. Vettel and Webber were equal last year (arguably). But Vettel didn't just suddenly get faster this year compared to last and Webber didn't just suddenly get slower. It all comes down to the rule changes. Webber's had more difficulty with the new tyres (specifically qualifying with them) and the weighty KERS system puts him at more of a disadvantage to Vettel because of his larger physical frame (he has less ballast available to him).
if i hered correctly . the reason vettle is cheating is not down to skill . his car has a flexable front bumper i belive i hered which creates more downforce for the car to turn round corners quicker and keep speed. im sorry but he wins every fucking race and nothing is being done .. im sorry he is not that good .. something is deffiantley a miss
YEAH I DO . they fucking found he was running a differant exaughst and let him keep it . even though it was against the rules . also look at photos . type in vettel flexable bumper and you will see ....he cant drive for shit ....
@lordwager9998 The flexible front wing is technically illegal, as it is a movable aerodynamic part (that is not driver adjustable bodywork, i.e. DRS). However, the FIA test for it is a static one (i.e. they chuck weight on it and see if it bends) where the load isn't enough to make it flex, though it does flex under real aero loads. This sort of sneakiness is not new in F1. McLaren have made their own flexible wing/nosecone anyway. I reckon other teams have as well. And yet Vettel still wins.
Webber's car has the same flexible FW as Vettel's. Most of the top teams have flexible front wings in some form, now. Even HRT's FW flexes a fair bit.
@SkinnyMan3000 yeh but, Massa didn't go off and this was one of Mark's possible first podium finished....also too, the press probably caught him when he was still flaming and hadn't gone back down to a quiet simmer
@Glassesnose Oh, I'm sure there were a lot of factors that aggravated Mark into saying what he said, but if we analyze the statement on its own, as I'm sure you'd agree, its pretty stupid as he has made these mistakes as well.
I'll say this for vettel, its easy to win when you start poll the whole time. Great driver but im gettin sick of him winning. He's just so fast, i'd like to see him fuck up qualifying and see what he can do from the pack. Lewis and Jenson are by far the most exciting drivers to watch.As for Mark, I like him a lot, but he's wasting his time starting pole because his starts are so poor. I prefer seeing him on the 2nd or 3rd row and watch him hunt. Expecting great things from Bruno Senna aswell!
I'll say this for vettel, its easy to win when you start poll the whole time. Great driver but im gettin sick of him winning. He's just so fast, i'd like to see him fuck up qualifying and see what he can do from the pack. Lewis and Jenson are by far the most exciting drivers to watch.As for Mark, I like him a lot, but he's wasting his time starting pole because his starts are so poor. I prefer seeing him on the 2nd or 3rd row and watch him hunt. Expecting great things from Bruno Senna aswell!
Webber's true colors revealed here- before he got into the top car and finally won a bloody race after 100 starts- here he almost cries due to losing a minor place - snivelling (with shades of Billy Birmingham's Bill Lawry); "well its kids innit (lip quiver)- i'm doin' a good job and they fuck it up!"
WAAAHAHHAAAA
And that "kid" is now whooping his ass 10-nil so far this 2011 season!
Webber- what a fraud- never could drive to save his life- even in go-karts in australia!
@DocBrewster Well he had a good chance of winning this race before Seb hit him so obviously he would be frustrated. I'm sure you'd be too. Second, Mark's had some incredible drives in his career (if you don't know then look it up) and it took him till 2009 to win a race because he never had a decent car throughout his career until that year.
The fact is that this crash was all Hamilton's fault.He was behind the safety car and breaked hard so Vettel didn't have enough inercy and hit Webber in the back.I don't really blame Hamilton either.In those conditions it was impossible to see anything from the water and spray on the track.
here goes... Hamiltons fault! :-)
wtfyman 2 days ago
i think we'll leave it just there
fusi0n556 2 weeks ago
Now there racing for the same team :)
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0:27 This stinks
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TheRomanRuler 2 weeks ago
Hamilton's fault...
Firestormman 2 weeks ago 2
And a few years later that Kid ripped him apart
Killerkarpfen1990 2 weeks ago 3
Press 4
I8uLUVm 1 month ago
"It's just yanks isn't it, yanks with not enough vocabulary, a good job of swearing & they fuck it all up.."
shredderkrang 1 month ago
@shredderkrang "It's just kid isn't it,kids with not enough experience...they do a good job and then they fuck it all up
PeppiBle 1 month ago
@FormulaKimball
While myself and many others would agree with what you said, please try to never ever use the phrase "F-bomb" again. That's the most pathetic way of sugar-coating the word fuck I've ever heard, usually always spoken by prudish, ultra religious Yanks. *sigh*
shredderkrang 1 month ago
The FIA has concluded that Marker Webber is guilty of inappropriate language and will be proceeding to give Lewis Hamilton a three race suspension.
DeadbeatXT 1 month ago 46
@DeadbeatXT hahaha, that's right. might as well punish him for that too. great comment.
McLarenDriver 1 month ago
@DeadbeatXT I wouldn't put it past them lol
Jordi123411 1 week ago
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@DeadbeatXT I wouldn't put it past them lol
Jordi123411 1 week ago
Little did Webber know in 2007 that Vettel would be fucking it up again in 2009, 2010, 2011.........
MsBountiful 1 month ago 4
Who knew that they would go on to be "best of friends" :/
MrSeanmcgeown 1 month ago
Hamilton's fault. Nuff Said.
ThatGlitcherGuy 1 month ago 4
Lol I find this so funny, I wonder if Mark still thinks Sebastian is still a kid after 2 World championships while destroying him in 2011?
Hadrees7860 1 month ago 2
Classic, Not bad for a number 2 driver
cokstank 2 months ago
And the "kid" is now the F1 World Champion
Rastafriend2 2 months ago 32
@Rastafriend2 Yeeaah :D and Mark Webber a loser ;)
xeenoon 1 month ago
@Rastafriend2 Double! :D
ahhanahiii 1 week ago
Vettel was going for a drive through at Mcdonalds.
2011JackG 2 months ago 3
It's because Webber is never given a chance and finally he gets one and that German loser called Vettel hits him because he can't drive. Now he's learning. Just he has a car that is 1.2 seconds faster than the McLaren's and Ferrari's at some circuits. So he's only about the 10th fastest driver.
Racecarwrecks 2 months ago
haha bet he was over the moon when they became team mates...
nosoup4u64 2 months ago
That Kid has repeatedly kicked your arse Mark. Sorry.
mikeymike1792 2 months ago 3
You have to feel for him after gutting it out through the race (vomiting in the cockpit but still continuing on) and then he's put out by getting rammed from behind during the safety car... Vettel was inconsolable after that too though. But to think they ended up teammates... Love the f-bomb on live TV :)
FormulaKimball 2 months ago 6
He's so right.. so right.
AshTheMohican 2 months ago
haha Webber, what a Callum
MarkSweetus 2 months ago
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MclarenGooner12 2 months ago
Its funny that the 'kids' now(Hamilton & Vettel) have won WDCs while Mark himself hasnt
MclarenGooner12 2 months ago 3
@MclarenGooner12 Never has, never will. :P
Gravelrally1 2 months ago
spoken like a real amature.
Even if he would think that,you can't say such a thing.
Wasakracker79 2 months ago
You get the best car in the field, you're set for an easy world championship, then some kid teammate comes and fucks it all up.
Suck shit Mark, you over-rated whinger.
mrclown88 2 months ago
He was gonna get a penalty but a video on youtube showed that it was hamiltons fail what a douche
CitizenZon3 3 months ago
Mark Webber crashes into far more people than Vettel, even in 2010 Webber hit more people. He can't help fucking up because he is a joke as a F1 driver.
M1ggins 3 months ago
vettel luvs to get to know how to crash into his future teamates
dazleeders 3 months ago
lol too bad this 'kid' is whooping his ass
jkamwal2 3 months ago 2
excellent
blagolishche 3 months ago
He also failed to mention James Allen, he goes a long way to fucking F1 up. Seriously couldn't stand him.
ComradeOblivious 3 months ago
he's still a kid/brat
9999faill 3 months ago
I bet Hamilton got a points deduction after that.
NottinghamForest22 3 months ago
Kimi won his championship coz Hamilton and Alonso spent the whole season fighting and taking points from each other,FACT!!
Kimi was beaten by Massa in the two following seasons,FACT!!
Every team principal wants the best drivers driving for them, therefore if Kimi was better than Massa, the later would have been sacked,FACT!!
Kimi is the most overrated driver in history of F1, yes, even more overrated than Sebastian Bieber!
Euclides287 3 months ago
@Euclides287 Raikonnen was very good before 07, he seemed to stop enjoying racing in his later years. Vettel is just bad. Worst world champion in history.
blackvapour 3 months ago
@Euclides287
Hamilton and Alonso's fault
Kimi beat Massa's points haul in 2009
Kimi was better than Felipe
Sebastian is the best driver in F1 (as proved by this season) and Kimi was a very good driver
64Fabby 3 months ago
@64Fabby Massa had more points than Kimi before he was forced to retire after his accident in Hungary.
The problem of most F1 fans is, many of you guys have short term memory and completely forgot how Kimi was being outclassed by Massa for the second season in a row. That´s why they kept Massa and got rid of Kimi. As for Vettel, he only proved that he can win races with a dominant car, he can´t win unless he starts on the front row & can´t overtake when under pressure in the championship.
Euclides287 3 months ago
@Euclides287
if Massa did have more points then it was not many, lest us forget Kimi took the great Schumacher on and , in inferior machinery, almost beat him in 2003 (so yes it looks like you have the short term memory). I definitely know the bit about Vettel is wrong, Monza in 2008 in a Torro Rosso? In my opinion a better drive for him being finishing 4th in Shanghai in the 2nd slowest car? He's a phenomenal driver, you can't deny that
64Fabby 3 months ago
@64Fabby 2nd slowest car? Toro Rosso and Red Bull Racing shared chassis designs until 2009, and the Toro Rosso had the more powerful Ferrari engine. The Toro Rosso was more competitive than the Red Bull in 07/08.
Wibbahh 1 month ago
@Wibbahh they were identical at the beginning of 2007. but as months passed by, toro rosso had aero updates later and later than red bull. so red bull was faster at the end of the year than toro rosso. horsepower is less important than aero in formula-1, especially since engine development was freezed.
not to mention vettel beats webber regularly these days.
gmiky 4 weeks ago
@gmiky no question that Vettel is better, but my point is that the Torro Rosso outfit was much more competitive back in 07/08 than it is now. And in 08 the STR3 had very steady and effective development so I would say that it may have had the edge over RBR at a lot of tracks, specifically Monza and Spa
Wibbahh 4 weeks ago
@Wibbahh But that came to an end when they stopped RB from giving away parts to toro rosso...
AlexandertheXV 3 weeks ago
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Wibbahh 3 weeks ago
@AlexandertheXV And when they started employing complete rookies with limited technical knowledge to drive development.
Wibbahh 3 weeks ago
@Wibbahh
Whaaa, Torro Rosso's best season was defiantly the 2011 season, no doubt in my mind
WarmFanta 2 weeks ago
@WarmFanta Not a chance, 2007/2008 with Vettel were the best seasons. I think that 2011 was also good and that the Buemi and Alguesuari battle was great. The STR7 is at least the best looking 2012 car so far, it may also be competitive. I think the Verge - Ricciardo battle will also be interesting.
Wibbahh 2 weeks ago
@64Fabby NO seb had the best cars. hes still a great driver but kimi and alonso are better and felipe was one point away from being world champion and after his crash hes never been the same. BTW red bull is built around seb not mark for example in 2010 webber was doing well with his setup that he had and finally got a front wing that suited him, but then they took it off his car and put onto sebs and that is fucking favoritism. Forza KIMI
Nesto885 2 months ago
@Euclides287 I agree 100%...Although I am a Kimi fan myself, most of his fans know squat about racing.
nitroboost8765 1 month ago
lol, wouldn't be the last time they crash
and they'd be team mates too
siloPIRATE 3 months ago
@fiwo2 First of all Kimi is World Champion....he is one of the most liked and watched drivers in the world, if you didnt know that...And what I think is that Kimi now wants to return to Williams, to show that he IS committed and motivated about F1 once again....I've even heard that Kimi is willing to do lot more PR stuff than what he did before. He wants to show that because he knows it's the only way for him to get to better team, to Mercedes or even RedBull when Schumi or Webber retires.
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
@fiwo2 Well what kind of question is that?...If he didnt care, why would he even be talking with Williams? Kimi clearly wants to come back, he has openly admitted that himself. Sure it wasnt that long ago when he said that he would only return to team that would be able to fight for the championship..but recently Kimi said that look what has happened this season...none could challenge RedBull and Vettel, so Kimi himself understands and accepts that he just cant get to best team possible righ now
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
errr the 'Kid' is now a double world champion..Mark was a rookie or 'Kid' as he put it once
blondboyharrison 3 months ago
@blondboyharrison they're teammates now, this was before they teamed up. i'm sure mark has respect for the "kid" now after all vettel's achievements
yaaaargmatey 3 months ago
@blondboyharrison Mark wasn't a "kid" in F1 in the same manner as Vettel. Mark was in his mid20's when he moved to F1 after racing sportscars for Mercedes.
gturner38 3 months ago
swearing on live television i think the FIA will deam that to be a 20 second drive though penalty
ethownzbh 3 months ago 86
@ethownzbh jaja you mean Dream right? Nah it would be 30 additional second and lose 2 grid positions
sk8ingdude69 3 months ago
@sk8ingdude69 no i actually meant deem whoops, and nah they reserve punishment of that sort for Hamilton
ethownzbh 3 months ago
@ethownzbh Only for Hamilton
MclarenGooner12 2 months ago
Also in my understanding many people ARE missing Kimi and want to see him back in F1...well except for Spanish people and some Italianos, who didnt like Kimi...for the past few months F1 media has been writing and talking lot about these rumors of Kimi returning, and the biggest F1 magazine in the world interwieved Kimi and he was on the front page....
So I can bet that no matter Kimi's future team in F1 might be, reporters will be all over him in Melbourne next March, if he indeed returns.
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
@fiwo2 Well in my understanding when Mclaren offered Kimi contract back then in 2009, Kimi had already set his mind to go to WRC...and another thing was that Ferrari/Santander wouldnt have paid Kimi one dollar if he had went to driver to another F1 team....so even though Kimi didnt drive 1 meter of Ferrari in 2010, he got the full sallary of that season + more money from Santander, cause they really wanted to buy Kimi out of Ferrari....If Kimi had go to Mclaren, he would lost millions
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
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fuck you webber the worst driver ever in a best car. even rubens got some wins in that Brawn. YOU ARE A FAILURE.
PHY104 3 months ago
@fiwo2 yeah, that what I said, if he doesnt improve next year, RedBull might replace him with one of their younger drivers, or even Kimi, if Raikkonen returns next year as Williams driver and proofs that he is still just as skillfull driver and most importantly motivated...ofcourse it could be that Webber himself would want to retire after 2012, but we just have to wait and see.
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
@Balnazzardi orrrrrrrrrrrr replace useless massi i mean what the man is doing with that beautiful machine is terrible.
TheBrandond20 3 months ago
@TheBrandond20 Well Massa is sure to fly out of Ferrari, maybe already even after this year....I mean sure he has contract with Ferrari for next year, but so did Kimi for 2010, but contracts can always be broken with enough money....recently there have been some rumors that Rosberg might replace Massa already after this season (and that in return would open place in Mercedes for Kimi already )
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
Hahah...Well now that "kid" is totally beating him, isnt he xD.
Vettel couldnt even help Webber take second place in the champsionship, even if he wanted to, since Webber cant finish even on podium....and he hasnt take even 1 victory this season.
I have a feeling that unless next year Webber doesnt improve, that will be his last year.
Balnazzardi 3 months ago
@Balnazzardi the car was built around vettel
dfkiller8823 3 months ago
@dfkiller8823 Dude ,no one builds a car around one driver...that'd be idiotic.The team wants the constructors title because that's where the money is and in order to do that both drivers have to be fairly competive/winnig races/being very consistent...And besides that Vettel is a kid ,is he really smart enough to give the right feedback and to know exactly how to make it work for him?Even if he is nobody would take that risk with Sebs background of being a crash kid...
PeppiBle 3 months ago
@PeppiBle well you are looking at the iceberg. but what you see is wayyy bigger than what you dont see. a team even earns more money from sponsorships than title win. and what vettel brought team was huge sponsors backing him.
amokachi31 3 months ago
@amokachi31 name one...the only one I know is Trust or something like that...I think that you are looking at the iceberg here...
PeppiBle 3 months ago
@PeppiBle And I suppose Ferrari didn't build a car around Michael Schumacher and that he wasn't their contracted number 1 driver lol
ThecJc541spec30 3 months ago
@ThecJc541spec30 IDK I was all but intrested in F1 those days...I've heard stuff from both sides but I can't make a statement based on my opinion mainly because I don't have one...
PeppiBle 3 months ago
Why the fuck are people talking about lewis, what the fuck does lewis have to do with this? D:<
Phoenix1664 4 months ago 18
@Phoenix1664 Did you not watch the race? Lewis pulled out of the spray of the safety car and slowed right down, and because overtaking isn't allowed, mark had to jump on the brakes and sebastian drove straight into mark. That's what this has to do with Hamilton.
Shumacher5 2 months ago 2
@Phoenix1664 In the drivers briefing on thursday before the race all the drivers agreed to maintain a constant speed behind the safety car. Lewis pulled way off line and slowed down, Seb assumed he had a problem and went into the back of Webber who slowed also. Seb is not without blame but Lewis caused the crash.
zudthespud 2 months ago
@ErosaScuderia yeah he's almost hit the entire field, but the Red Bulls have just been too good for him...
Pumbaa666 4 months ago
This needs to be renamed... Mark was talking about Lewis as well...
Pumbaa666 4 months ago
Too bad Lewis never has hit Mark this season.
ErosaScuderia 4 months ago
@ErosaScuderia LEWIS is a S**h Hole haha
my22car 4 months ago
Like your mom?
ErosaScuderia 4 months ago
@ErosaScuderia like Ferrari? haha
my22car 4 months ago
I don't like Ferrari. The joke's on you.
ErosaScuderia 4 months ago
@ErosaScuderia Oh, jog on mate
my22car 4 months ago
Thanks, lol.
ErosaScuderia 4 months ago
aaaand now their teammates.
DangerousD1551 4 months ago
Haters gonna hate...double WDC 0.o
PeppiBle 4 months ago
And how many times has Webber 'fucked it all up'. Usually he goes blaming everyone els ethough.
M1ggins 4 months ago
Numpty - Seb won in a torro, an inferior car to the majority of back then. Whilst winning in an inferior car is mostly unlikely, the better drivers are picked based on their performance with an inferior car. Schumi @ spa in a Jordan is another example thats clearly evident.
Re Webber - all he sees nowadays is back of Sebs car but he still needs powerful binoculars!
nunam0n 4 months ago
@nunam0n On that day in 2008, the STR was arguably the fastest car. Don't forget, in the wet earlier tha weekend they also set the fastest lap in a session. The Ferrari engine gave the STR an apparent 4 tenth advantage over the Red Bull drivers by itself. And Vettel was already signed for Red Bull before the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. Coulthard announced his retirement at Silverstone and Red Bull announced the signing of Vettel the day after.
FormulaVid 4 months ago
Thanks Mark.
itsmattymattymatty 4 months ago
Lol, classic Mark Webber. Brilliant.
DLiberator78 4 months ago
You guys do realize that he was talking about Hamilton, not Vettel.
gashhead101 4 months ago
@gashhead101 no in this case he was talking about Vettel. It was only until later on that Vettel was relieved of his 10 place grid penalty due to a YouTube video showing the incident from a different angle and the incident was reinvestigated!
SJM1994London 4 months ago
@gashhead101 no if you listen he says he was hit by seb Vettel????
itsmattymattymatty 4 months ago
Well at least the "kid" has done more in F1 in two years than you have in almost 10 years, Mark.
scubbiesrules 4 months ago 4
@scubbiesrules
thats because vettel cheats
lordwager9998 4 months ago
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@lordwager9998 Let me guess... you're a Hamilton fan?
scubbiesrules 4 months ago
@lordwager9998 Driving a car faster than anyone else does is cheating? Nonsense.
ohargreaves 4 months ago
@lordwager9998 give us an example of him cheating. Oh wait you can't because he doesn't cheat and the scrutineering that EVERY car has to go through says so!
SJM1994London 4 months ago
@scubbiesrules -- tis true ... Vettel holds many records (most have to deal with him being the youngest to everything), while Mark lost the only chance he'll ever have a WDC last year in a ridiculous fashion ... way to go Seb 2 time winner !!!!!! Webber is a permanent #2 just like Rubens and Massa LOL
disengagejam 4 months ago
@scubbiesrules The only reason Seb is where he is, is because he got into Redbull at the right time, plus he is a very very good driver. Put him in the crappy teams the same as Webber was, we would hardly know who he is. You can be an amazing driver in a slow car. Look at Michael for example. If he was in Seb's seat.........
Mikec0087 4 months ago
ask mark about the "kid" now LOL
SAFFY7411 4 months ago 120
@SAFFY7411 11-0! LOL
ohargreaves 4 months ago
@SAFFY7411 probably about the same! lol
DaBennoCode 2 months ago
@SAFFY7411 double world champion. wonder if webber would still sulk at being treated as 2nd driver... lol
dedygho 2 months ago
@dedygho it's all very well talking about this in hindsight but the fact was that vettel plowed into the back of webber knocking them both out of the race and costing webber a podium, plus vettel was 20 or so at the time.
hamiltonlegend24 2 months ago
@hamiltonlegend24 it's a race in full wet... collision is very likely to happen... especially when you're driving f1 car... consider that webber crashed into kovalainen last year despite being much more experienced than vettel was... i didn't hear kovalainen bitching about webber... webber should know he has a much faster car... too much red bull so he gets 'high'???
dedygho 2 months ago
@dedygho it was behind the safety car. They both had a chance of getting a lot of points for teams that weren't in the fight. at the time the torro rosso was very much the sister team of redbull.
hamiltonlegend24 2 months ago
@hamiltonlegend24 yuppp. it's a rookie mistake from vettel. but hamilton also contributed to the crash when he veered off and brake, prompting webber to brake (overtaking under safety car is not allowed). i'm guessing vettel didn't anticipate webber slowing down and hence the collision.
dedygho 2 months ago
@dedygho yeh i was going to mention that. hamilton did play a part. but i think the main reason webber is angry is because he could have had a podium and both redbull and torro rosso could have had good results. Put it another way he would be just as angry if he went for a move on vettel in the torro rosso and he didnt yield so they collided taking them out of the race. It was more the fact it was a torro rosso than vettel in particular
hamiltonlegend24 2 months ago
@hamiltonlegend24 i'm guessing webber would still be angry whoever crashed into him... he probably would've called rubens grandpa if he crashed into him...
it's grandpa isn't it... lol
dedygho 2 months ago
@dedygho true. well I mean look how lewis reacted after monaco 2011. he was fed up. he thought he wasnt in the wrong when clearly he was. though i think the maldonado incident was more two sided than people seem to think. It is just heat of the moment stuff. I only really commented on this because of all the people who are merrily dismissing webber because vettel is now schooling him. so i go back to my first point. all very well with the benefit of hindsight
hamiltonlegend24 2 months ago
@hamiltonlegend24 anyway vettel is better than webber. 3 years as teammates and he always finished higher in the championship. even this year, he only managed 1 win despite having a championship winning car and that's when vettel was having transmission glitches. even lewis and button got more win despite having an inferior car.... put lewis or button in the red bull and this year would be a much more contested season.
dedygho 2 months ago
@dedygho you're just further proving my point. this is all with the benefit of hindsight. has nothing to do with if seb is better than mark.Im trying to explain the why Mark reacted the way he did. How was he supposed to know that this guy would now be a double world champion, it came to bite him in the ass. But in the heat of the moment it was a rookie error from vettel
hamiltonlegend24 2 months ago
poor mark :(
Liqu1d16 4 months ago
i bet he's still thinks like that about vettel now, but just doesn't show it to the world
PlatfootNL 4 months ago
@PlatfootNL Webber is probably the most honest driver on the Grid as well as Lewis
MclarenGooner12 2 months ago
Lol this is Turkey 2010 not Fuji 2007!!!
Armadillo0014 4 months ago
@Armadillo0014 My days i hope god has some other use for you apart from the village idiot.
HULKHODGY 4 months ago
@HULKHODGY
No dipshit. The Comment resembles Turkey 2010 When they collided again...
Armadillo0014 4 months ago
@Armadillo0014 Ha no it doesnt, you thick fuck!
HULKHODGY 4 months ago
@HULKHODGY
Are you retarded? Do you even watch F1?
Armadillo0014 4 months ago
@Armadillo0014 What do you think im doing up at this time on a saturday morning for? ive been up since 6 to watch qualifying. And no, those comments wasnt turkey 2010 they was fuji 2007, louise goodman worked for itv until 2009 when it switched to bbc, since then its been leigh mckenzie thats how i know that comment isnt from 2010.
HULKHODGY 4 months ago
@HULKHODGY
Did you not read that i said the word "resembles" meaning they had the same drama in 2010. I dont give a shit when you wake up or what station you are watching from. The resemblance is funny.
Armadillo0014 4 months ago
@Armadillo0014 The resemblence is yes, ironic too. My point is you originally said it was fom 2010, when you clearly have no idea what your talking about and then realised your mistake!
HULKHODGY 4 months ago
@HULKHODGY
Your point is irrelevant. If your trying to read sarcasm over the internet. Its barely possible.
Armadillo0014 4 months ago
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@Armadillo0014 Lol this is Turkey 2010 not Fuji 2007!!! WRONG! thats all im saying.
HULKHODGY 4 months ago
Wonder if any of you know this happened when vettel was at toro rosso?
Rickoshay 4 months ago
@JesperA86 your opinion.
phillipsqazxsw 4 months ago
Professional race drivers always drive to their limits. Vettel and Webber were equal last year (arguably). But Vettel didn't just suddenly get faster this year compared to last and Webber didn't just suddenly get slower. It all comes down to the rule changes. Webber's had more difficulty with the new tyres (specifically qualifying with them) and the weighty KERS system puts him at more of a disadvantage to Vettel because of his larger physical frame (he has less ballast available to him).
MoNercy 5 months ago 2
Hugh Jackman is pissed off with Justin Bieber.
Zigadiboom 5 months ago 71
The illuminati (agence) own redbull, just like they own every dominent brand on this planet, like nike, Mcdonalds, Ford every mega corparation.
85LordByron8 5 months ago
if i hered correctly . the reason vettle is cheating is not down to skill . his car has a flexable front bumper i belive i hered which creates more downforce for the car to turn round corners quicker and keep speed. im sorry but he wins every fucking race and nothing is being done .. im sorry he is not that good .. something is deffiantley a miss
lordwager9998 5 months ago
@lordwager9998 You honestly believe that FIA inspections wouldnt have picked up any flexible bumpers????
GauravA42 5 months ago
@GauravA42
YEAH I DO . they fucking found he was running a differant exaughst and let him keep it . even though it was against the rules . also look at photos . type in vettel flexable bumper and you will see ....he cant drive for shit ....
lordwager9998 5 months ago
@lordwager9998 The flexible front wing is technically illegal, as it is a movable aerodynamic part (that is not driver adjustable bodywork, i.e. DRS). However, the FIA test for it is a static one (i.e. they chuck weight on it and see if it bends) where the load isn't enough to make it flex, though it does flex under real aero loads. This sort of sneakiness is not new in F1. McLaren have made their own flexible wing/nosecone anyway. I reckon other teams have as well. And yet Vettel still wins.
MoNercy 5 months ago
@lordwager9998
Webber's car has the same flexible FW as Vettel's. Most of the top teams have flexible front wings in some form, now. Even HRT's FW flexes a fair bit.
PulletSurprise 5 months ago
@lordwager9998 If you think Vettel is cheating he would've had all his points taken away a long time ago!
SJM1994London 4 months ago
Kinda like how Mark just fucked up Massa in Italy. Mistakes happen, dude.
SkinnyMan3000 5 months ago
@SkinnyMan3000 yeh but, Massa didn't go off and this was one of Mark's possible first podium finished....also too, the press probably caught him when he was still flaming and hadn't gone back down to a quiet simmer
Glassesnose 5 months ago
@Glassesnose Oh, I'm sure there were a lot of factors that aggravated Mark into saying what he said, but if we analyze the statement on its own, as I'm sure you'd agree, its pretty stupid as he has made these mistakes as well.
SkinnyMan3000 5 months ago
Ah, i miss these days, back when you could say "Vettel who?" Nowadays, this little baby is a 2 WDC champion.
AlexGRFan97 5 months ago
@AlexGRFan97 this little baby? u are 14 years old mate , think about what ur talking yo.
Covzz09 5 months ago
its japan
forremm 5 months ago
I think he was referring to Hamilton's antics.
spectre1209 5 months ago
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I'll say this for vettel, its easy to win when you start poll the whole time. Great driver but im gettin sick of him winning. He's just so fast, i'd like to see him fuck up qualifying and see what he can do from the pack. Lewis and Jenson are by far the most exciting drivers to watch.As for Mark, I like him a lot, but he's wasting his time starting pole because his starts are so poor. I prefer seeing him on the 2nd or 3rd row and watch him hunt. Expecting great things from Bruno Senna aswell!
ListowelLiam92 5 months ago
I'll say this for vettel, its easy to win when you start poll the whole time. Great driver but im gettin sick of him winning. He's just so fast, i'd like to see him fuck up qualifying and see what he can do from the pack. Lewis and Jenson are by far the most exciting drivers to watch.As for Mark, I like him a lot, but he's wasting his time starting pole because his starts are so poor. I prefer seeing him on the 2nd or 3rd row and watch him hunt. Expecting great things from Bruno Senna aswell!
ListowelLiam92 5 months ago
hahaha who knew that kid with not enough experience fucking it all up would become his teammate and is now the world champion
ObeyTheSystem93 5 months ago 4
Webber's true colors revealed here- before he got into the top car and finally won a bloody race after 100 starts- here he almost cries due to losing a minor place - snivelling (with shades of Billy Birmingham's Bill Lawry); "well its kids innit (lip quiver)- i'm doin' a good job and they fuck it up!"
WAAAHAHHAAAA
And that "kid" is now whooping his ass 10-nil so far this 2011 season!
Webber- what a fraud- never could drive to save his life- even in go-karts in australia!
SILVER SPOON LOSER!
DocBrewster 5 months ago
@DocBrewster snivelling, are you retarded? people generally sound like that on that radio
tangywangyify 5 months ago
@DocBrewster Well he had a good chance of winning this race before Seb hit him so obviously he would be frustrated. I'm sure you'd be too. Second, Mark's had some incredible drives in his career (if you don't know then look it up) and it took him till 2009 to win a race because he never had a decent car throughout his career until that year.
RFresh41 5 months ago
We asked about the 'f duct', not the 'f bomb'!
soundslave 5 months ago
The fact is that this crash was all Hamilton's fault.He was behind the safety car and breaked hard so Vettel didn't have enough inercy and hit Webber in the back.I don't really blame Hamilton either.In those conditions it was impossible to see anything from the water and spray on the track.
blerand91 5 months ago
And who would have thought after this race that in the near future these two would be fighting for WDC with each other.
blerand91 5 months ago