Facts Dobbs ignores. India bought 2 billion dollars worth of Lockheed planes from America & 1 billion dollar worth Boeing planes this year & announced it will buy billions of dollars worth of power plants from from Westinghouse this year. This will generate massive well paid employment in the U.S. Trade is two ways. Indians consume McDonalds, Starbucks, Nike and every other iconic American brand. As Indians rise we will only consume more American products and thus generate more jobs in America.
This is INSANE They are deliberately destroying Americans. As this country goes down the drain. We must help everyone else while we the people are losing jobs homes and the very American way we all had to fight and die for.
Lou Dobbs again is RIGHT!
WE MUST NOT ALLOW HiLIARy (BIG-SISTER) Clinton to become President,
Lou Dobbs is racist. He is so 19th century.He is just moaning without any research. In todays globalised world if India gains out of outsourcing then USA gains out of purchasing US products. Just look at the growth in the US-India trade figures.
If you want to see reversion of the outsourced jobs in the future & reduced outsourcing, vote for a candidate who does not take money from the lobbyist. The list of candidates who take lobbyist money is readily available on the internet. There is no reason to expect a politician not to use his or her vote in favor of the special groups & take the lobbyist money from them at the same time. I know Ron Paul & Kucinich from the two parties who do not take lobbyist money.
Typical as the supporter of Hilary Clinton tries to change the subject to something completely irrelevant. There is no common sense way to defend the actions of Hilary Clinton regarding this issue. What she is doing obviously is only for Hillary's Clinton's benefit and not the American people. Please no more Clinton's in the White House. Hillary Clinton - An overly ambitious windsock trying to make it to the Presidency while ignoring it's real costs to America!
Bill Clinton was the architect of free trade which put thousands of manufacturing workers out of work. Now, Hillary Clinton wants to be the architect of the destruction of high tech engineering and computer science jobs.
Easy come, easy go with the Clintons (no pun intented!)
In fact, even many Democrats I know now plan to vote Giuliani if Hillary is nominated due to this issue alone. Unbelievable, she is tying her own noose.
Again, this will kill Hillary Clinton's campaign. Most of my friends who once liked Hillary, now HATE her because of the H1B, outsourcing issue. She seems to be a stupid candidate.
Vote Ron Paul and all outsourcing will stop. You know what's funny, at some point in time, the indians will and are currently, starting to cost just as much as us US workers
Kentucky Attourney General Greg Stumbo & his Aryan Nation & KKK friends( ARE Official Capicity MURDERERS)& their US 6th district friends,( KENTUCKY IS NO LONGER SAFE WITH KILL FARMS,CIA & FBI-(GET PASSPORTS ASAP!) I AM A WITNESS ! THEIR IS NO JUSTICE IN KENTUCKY ! WASHINGTON DC. KNOWS & DONT CARE BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF IT !
The unemployed workers simply feel that not getting a job is somehow the immigrant's fault and not their lack of the requsite skills or lack of penchant for growing up the management ladder! And don't tell me about age discrimination, I empathize with this viewpoint, but this problem was there all along and it's there across all job areas not just IT, only now that the old IT guys have a group to channel their anger against.
Not just IT folks, advanced engineering workers from electrical, mechanical, chemical, aerospace, computer science, talented surgeons, etc., all these folks use H1Bs, so as to be able to work in US. Even professors in the top notch universities in US. So, how come Lou encloses every one of the H1Bs in one single bracket, and claim them to be cheap. One must either dumb or racist or arrogant, the last of which I suspect best fits folks like Lou Dobbs, or his supporters.
azn11001, I never talked about 1000 Indian IT guys, in fact for that matter, I never talked about Indians in specific. You raised it, all I was saying was that if there are 1000 guys and 100 jobs, it doesn't mean that the 1000 guys are a good fit for any of the 100 jobs.
When I put myself through college as a waitress it was common knowledge that Indians didn't tip. Jews share the company information with Jews. Knowing when to buy and dump stocks. Money buys support for Israel. It is all tied together. Two selfish groups who only think about their own interests at the expense of others.
Does legal mean it is right? Germany made killing Jews legal, was that right? They thought Jews were bad for the German enocomy, imagine that?
This is because tipping is not a part of indian practice. The waiters get paid and no tips. This is not because we are cheap or we think of anymore of our own race than you guys do.
This jackass Lou says H1B is legal because it exists!!! I admit he has a way to play with the minds of the good middle class Americans with his hate propaganda and amazing ability to distort facts along with the facial expressions of concern that would emabarass an established actor. I almost threw up when he critized the New York Times and Washington Post.
What the hell does firing of US Attorneys have to do with the H1B other than the inability of the Congress and Senate to focus on the "Real" problems at hand. This is bull and the politicians know it. If they could market/pass legislation on Paris Hilton they would.
Hillary Clinton has always been a friend to India but to hear these bigots say that it is at the expense of Americans is absurd. Lou Dobbs is a racist and xenophobic hate preacher who creates fear psychosis among good Americans. He calls his cronies to his show and makes believe that they are experts.
Lou Dobbs has just proved himself to be a racist and an anti-immigrant bigot. Not only illegal immigrants, but now he is ranting about legal immigrants. Wtf are hsi qualifications other than doing a Bachelors. Does he know more than PhDs in Economics from MIT or Harvard.
ghan0011 - You are so full of @#$% Racist my ass you dickweed (And just exactly where do you get your facts from??There is no shortage it's about cheaper labor
u moron...argue properly if u can....Wtf do u know about shortages..I have a Phd in Engineering and have been trying to hire a guy with knowledge in stochastic programaming for the last 1 year and haven't been able to locate a single US candidate...The problem is for dumbnuts like you or Lou Dobbs, H1B means only one thing, some basic coders with no advanced skills. The mistake isn't urs or Lou Dobss, u guys are only so smart and can't think better.
ghan0011 - The mistake isn't urs or Lou Dobss, u guys are only so smart and can't think better.For your information asshole I was on the phone with Verizons Support (Indian)for four fucking hours to get a router and modem to work,I fixed the damn thing myself in 10 minutes..So who is the moron??
I agree to some extent that quality is missing in indian tech support , because only the engineering drop outs or such do call center support .But anyways why are you so bent upon generalizing things so much.
@pcjunkie48 on the other count if u r so smart why call tech support in first place! Don't blame Indians .....they are just like u or me who look for opportunities for survival...blame ur companies.
When Lou Dobbs says that all H1B's are cheap labor, he is insulting even advanced researchers, who lead research groups in US industries, advancing the interests of US industries and economy. Only a racist dumbnut like Lou Dobbs or u can be so f**kin blind to the benefits immigrants bring to the society at large.
And lastly, one size doesn't fit all. Just bcoz there a 1000 programmers out there doens't mean that they are qualified for say 100 scientific programming jobs in US. Scientific programmming jobs require some domain specific skills and a real 4 year degree in a real university, not some 2 to 3 year tech. institute degree.
Ghan, although your statements do hold some validity, I would urge you not to classify university education in a class of its own. After all, a little under half of the entire curriculum of the degrees attained at these 4 year universities is general education, something that these specialized, technical schools just choose to completely abandon.
If, as you claim (and which I find extremely hard to believe. either you are looking at the wrong places or don't know how to look at all), there is some sort of problem locating "qualified" employees for these technical sectors, then of course there would be no problem hiring specialists outside of the country.
However, with majors like Computer Science and all types of engineering disciplines being some of the most common advanced education sought, I refuse to believe that of the 1000 American programmers out there, that not 100 of them are qualified enough to fill these 100 scientific programming vacancies. After all, I'm sure of those 1000 programmers, at least 80% of them went to a 4 year university, something you seem to respect.
To degrade the education offered at these instutitions is a little biased, to say the least. A book is a book just like learning C++ at "some 2 ot 3 year tech. institute" is learning C++ at Yale.
Furthermore, there are benefits to employing immigrants, especially to big businesses that save money outsourcing these jobs for about 2/3 of the price of an American worker, however the view of the American people, enduring a sluggish and slowing economy, believe that a majority of these jobs should be offered to citizens of the country first.
If more and more jobs are filled by foreign immigrants, who are not necessarily even more qualified or better equipped for the work, just cheaper, where does that leave the average American worker? This is why it's a problem, ghan. It's a simple matter of economics and "dumbnuts" like Lou Dobbs looking after the welfare of the American people is not something that is racist or a form of bigotry.
It's normal for America looking after the welfare of the American people (1st class citizen) to endure increasingly jobless rates. I'm sure that 1000 programmers or IT technologists from america itself are something compared to the famous indian I.T that they're so cheap to bought in. To ghan0011. What makes you think that 1000 indian programmer out there are qualified for a job in USA and other nations as well?
I feel sorry for ghan0011 who thinks he is much more superior than others. India thinks they are working hard and self motivated enough compared to the China communist slaves. And now trying to own the USA and the world as well in their so called I.T. Maybe USA shouldnt introduce India at the first place so these guys will stop hypocriting
Lou Dobbs is a patriot and trying to save America's middle class from the war on the middle class caused by the invasion of cheap labor from 3rd world countries. We have fought many battles to get this country where it is today.
It's normal for America looking after the welfare of the American people (1st class citizen) to endure increasingly jobless rates. I'm sure that 1000 programmers or IT technologists from america itself are something compared to the famous indian I.T that they're so cheap to bought in. To ghan0011. What makes you think that 1000 indian programmer out there are qualified for a job in USA as well?
There is no shortage of American workers. They're be layed off or fired and replaced with lower cost foreigners. There is no short term need except for the need to lower the labor costs.
The demand for software engineering courses in the US has shrunk to a fraction of what it was only a few years ago. This is because there are no jobs to speak of in software engineering for Americans. There goes America's technology leadership in software.
Facts Dobbs ignores. India bought 2 billion dollars worth of Lockheed planes from America & 1 billion dollar worth Boeing planes this year & announced it will buy billions of dollars worth of power plants from from Westinghouse this year. This will generate massive well paid employment in the U.S. Trade is two ways. Indians consume McDonalds, Starbucks, Nike and every other iconic American brand. As Indians rise we will only consume more American products and thus generate more jobs in America.
bellponix 2 years ago
excellent work!
1888junkteam 2 years ago
Lou Dobbs is an idiot who revived his sagging career few years ago by taking anti-immigrant tirade be its Mexico, India or China.
Its pure supply-demand dynamics, and Lou better spend his time encouraging american kids to take up science and maths.
sskgrs 2 years ago
robert zimmerman's so hot [he has such pretty eyes omg] lol
chickun1soup80 3 years ago
haha Lou doobbs just got urinated on by indians ...lol
aminullahsaid 3 years ago
Lou Dobbs is amazing... isn't it amazing that
1) the indian workers come in the low skill category
2) they make $12000 less on an avg than american workers
AND
They also have the highest avg income of any group... good going Lou!
abhish13 3 years ago
Lou Dobbs is great. If he runs for president, I will vote for him.
forbigal 3 years ago
See HILLARY age in 30 seconds!
To watch the facemorpher channel, click on 'facemorpher'!
Also George Bush, Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Clint Eastwood, Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks etc.
facemorpher 3 years ago
The Clinton political plan:
1. Lie to get your way
2. If that doesn't work, lie some more.
3. If that doesn't work, attack your opponent.
kaneohe1 3 years ago 3
im not dissagreeing but number 1 and 3 go together lol
lilevo84 3 years ago
This is INSANE They are deliberately destroying Americans. As this country goes down the drain. We must help everyone else while we the people are losing jobs homes and the very American way we all had to fight and die for.
Lou Dobbs again is RIGHT!
WE MUST NOT ALLOW HiLIARy (BIG-SISTER) Clinton to become President,
Rcoxx4u 4 years ago 3
Lou Dobbs is racist. He is so 19th century.He is just moaning without any research. In todays globalised world if India gains out of outsourcing then USA gains out of purchasing US products. Just look at the growth in the US-India trade figures.
anku6 4 years ago
Hillary is a liar
mythkw 4 years ago 4
If you want to see reversion of the outsourced jobs in the future & reduced outsourcing, vote for a candidate who does not take money from the lobbyist. The list of candidates who take lobbyist money is readily available on the internet. There is no reason to expect a politician not to use his or her vote in favor of the special groups & take the lobbyist money from them at the same time. I know Ron Paul & Kucinich from the two parties who do not take lobbyist money.
alfatourist 4 years ago 2
Typical as the supporter of Hilary Clinton tries to change the subject to something completely irrelevant. There is no common sense way to defend the actions of Hilary Clinton regarding this issue. What she is doing obviously is only for Hillary's Clinton's benefit and not the American people. Please no more Clinton's in the White House. Hillary Clinton - An overly ambitious windsock trying to make it to the Presidency while ignoring it's real costs to America!
bigfish531 4 years ago 4
This is killing Hillary's campaign so much her numbers are going up. LOL
gnj1958 4 years ago
Bill Clinton was the architect of free trade which put thousands of manufacturing workers out of work. Now, Hillary Clinton wants to be the architect of the destruction of high tech engineering and computer science jobs.
Easy come, easy go with the Clintons (no pun intented!)
crapman000 4 years ago 3
In fact, even many Democrats I know now plan to vote Giuliani if Hillary is nominated due to this issue alone. Unbelievable, she is tying her own noose.
Gildas9 4 years ago 3
Again, this will kill Hillary Clinton's campaign. Most of my friends who once liked Hillary, now HATE her because of the H1B, outsourcing issue. She seems to be a stupid candidate.
Gildas9 4 years ago 4
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NAIParty 4 years ago
Vote Ron Paul and all outsourcing will stop. You know what's funny, at some point in time, the indians will and are currently, starting to cost just as much as us US workers
Darien2680 4 years ago
HOW*
madguyinny 4 years ago
YOu all know whats funny here......NO MATTER HOE MUCH YOU HUE AND CRY >>>>>>>WE ARE TAKING OVER YOU!!!!!<<<<<<
We are more rich in america. Our average household income is around 75K per person.
So SHUT the FU*k up you IDIOTS>
madguyinny 4 years ago
Kentucky Attourney General Greg Stumbo & his Aryan Nation & KKK friends( ARE Official Capicity MURDERERS)& their US 6th district friends,( KENTUCKY IS NO LONGER SAFE WITH KILL FARMS,CIA & FBI-(GET PASSPORTS ASAP!) I AM A WITNESS ! THEIR IS NO JUSTICE IN KENTUCKY ! WASHINGTON DC. KNOWS & DONT CARE BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF IT !
anthonyreaves 4 years ago
Jewish political interferce almost ruined Germany's economy, ruined USSR totality, and now is ruining USA.
Why Indians?
They fight Muslims as Jews. They proability share bus. infor with Jewish investors making money.
Money leads to control of politicans.
Control leads to Israel support and money give to them.
Simple overall plan.
lindazimmer 4 years ago
The unemployed workers simply feel that not getting a job is somehow the immigrant's fault and not their lack of the requsite skills or lack of penchant for growing up the management ladder! And don't tell me about age discrimination, I empathize with this viewpoint, but this problem was there all along and it's there across all job areas not just IT, only now that the old IT guys have a group to channel their anger against.
ghan0011 4 years ago
Not just IT folks, advanced engineering workers from electrical, mechanical, chemical, aerospace, computer science, talented surgeons, etc., all these folks use H1Bs, so as to be able to work in US. Even professors in the top notch universities in US. So, how come Lou encloses every one of the H1Bs in one single bracket, and claim them to be cheap. One must either dumb or racist or arrogant, the last of which I suspect best fits folks like Lou Dobbs, or his supporters.
ghan0011 4 years ago
azn11001, I never talked about 1000 Indian IT guys, in fact for that matter, I never talked about Indians in specific. You raised it, all I was saying was that if there are 1000 guys and 100 jobs, it doesn't mean that the 1000 guys are a good fit for any of the 100 jobs.
ghan0011 4 years ago
When I put myself through college as a waitress it was common knowledge that Indians didn't tip. Jews share the company information with Jews. Knowing when to buy and dump stocks. Money buys support for Israel. It is all tied together. Two selfish groups who only think about their own interests at the expense of others.
Does legal mean it is right? Germany made killing Jews legal, was that right? They thought Jews were bad for the German enocomy, imagine that?
lindazimmer 4 years ago 2
This is because tipping is not a part of indian practice. The waiters get paid and no tips. This is not because we are cheap or we think of anymore of our own race than you guys do.
vvinkky 4 years ago
This jackass Lou says H1B is legal because it exists!!! I admit he has a way to play with the minds of the good middle class Americans with his hate propaganda and amazing ability to distort facts along with the facial expressions of concern that would emabarass an established actor. I almost threw up when he critized the New York Times and Washington Post.
HariRamNai 4 years ago
What the hell does firing of US Attorneys have to do with the H1B other than the inability of the Congress and Senate to focus on the "Real" problems at hand. This is bull and the politicians know it. If they could market/pass legislation on Paris Hilton they would.
SaberT5 4 years ago
Hillary Clinton has always been a friend to India but to hear these bigots say that it is at the expense of Americans is absurd. Lou Dobbs is a racist and xenophobic hate preacher who creates fear psychosis among good Americans. He calls his cronies to his show and makes believe that they are experts.
HariRamNai 4 years ago
Lou Dobbs has just proved himself to be a racist and an anti-immigrant bigot. Not only illegal immigrants, but now he is ranting about legal immigrants. Wtf are hsi qualifications other than doing a Bachelors. Does he know more than PhDs in Economics from MIT or Harvard.
ghan0011 4 years ago
ghan0011 - You are so full of @#$% Racist my ass you dickweed (And just exactly where do you get your facts from??There is no shortage it's about cheaper labor
pcjunkie48 4 years ago 2
u moron...argue properly if u can....Wtf do u know about shortages..I have a Phd in Engineering and have been trying to hire a guy with knowledge in stochastic programaming for the last 1 year and haven't been able to locate a single US candidate...The problem is for dumbnuts like you or Lou Dobbs, H1B means only one thing, some basic coders with no advanced skills. The mistake isn't urs or Lou Dobss, u guys are only so smart and can't think better.
ghan0011 4 years ago
ghan0011 - The mistake isn't urs or Lou Dobss, u guys are only so smart and can't think better.For your information asshole I was on the phone with Verizons Support (Indian)for four fucking hours to get a router and modem to work,I fixed the damn thing myself in 10 minutes..So who is the moron??
pcjunkie48 4 years ago 5
I agree to some extent that quality is missing in indian tech support , because only the engineering drop outs or such do call center support .But anyways why are you so bent upon generalizing things so much.
vvinkky 4 years ago
@pcjunkie48 on the other count if u r so smart why call tech support in first place! Don't blame Indians .....they are just like u or me who look for opportunities for survival...blame ur companies.
virgoptrex 1 year ago
When Lou Dobbs says that all H1B's are cheap labor, he is insulting even advanced researchers, who lead research groups in US industries, advancing the interests of US industries and economy. Only a racist dumbnut like Lou Dobbs or u can be so f**kin blind to the benefits immigrants bring to the society at large.
ghan0011 4 years ago
And lastly, one size doesn't fit all. Just bcoz there a 1000 programmers out there doens't mean that they are qualified for say 100 scientific programming jobs in US. Scientific programmming jobs require some domain specific skills and a real 4 year degree in a real university, not some 2 to 3 year tech. institute degree.
ghan0011 4 years ago
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Ghan, although your statements do hold some validity, I would urge you not to classify university education in a class of its own. After all, a little under half of the entire curriculum of the degrees attained at these 4 year universities is general education, something that these specialized, technical schools just choose to completely abandon.
thor1n 4 years ago
If, as you claim (and which I find extremely hard to believe. either you are looking at the wrong places or don't know how to look at all), there is some sort of problem locating "qualified" employees for these technical sectors, then of course there would be no problem hiring specialists outside of the country.
thor1n 4 years ago
However, with majors like Computer Science and all types of engineering disciplines being some of the most common advanced education sought, I refuse to believe that of the 1000 American programmers out there, that not 100 of them are qualified enough to fill these 100 scientific programming vacancies. After all, I'm sure of those 1000 programmers, at least 80% of them went to a 4 year university, something you seem to respect.
thor1n 4 years ago
An indian degree doesn't even compare to that of a US degree. Not even close, the best universities in the world are from Canada and US
Darien2680 4 years ago 3
To degrade the education offered at these instutitions is a little biased, to say the least. A book is a book just like learning C++ at "some 2 ot 3 year tech. institute" is learning C++ at Yale.
thor1n 4 years ago
Furthermore, there are benefits to employing immigrants, especially to big businesses that save money outsourcing these jobs for about 2/3 of the price of an American worker, however the view of the American people, enduring a sluggish and slowing economy, believe that a majority of these jobs should be offered to citizens of the country first.
thor1n 4 years ago
If more and more jobs are filled by foreign immigrants, who are not necessarily even more qualified or better equipped for the work, just cheaper, where does that leave the average American worker? This is why it's a problem, ghan. It's a simple matter of economics and "dumbnuts" like Lou Dobbs looking after the welfare of the American people is not something that is racist or a form of bigotry.
thor1n 4 years ago
It's normal for America looking after the welfare of the American people (1st class citizen) to endure increasingly jobless rates. I'm sure that 1000 programmers or IT technologists from america itself are something compared to the famous indian I.T that they're so cheap to bought in. To ghan0011. What makes you think that 1000 indian programmer out there are qualified for a job in USA and other nations as well?
azn11001 4 years ago
pcjunkie48:
ghan0011 is from india and they think they own this country. They are like a cancer and are trying to take over.
ListenForTruth 4 years ago 3
That's the best u could come up with ;)
ghan0011 4 years ago
I feel sorry for ghan0011 who thinks he is much more superior than others. India thinks they are working hard and self motivated enough compared to the China communist slaves. And now trying to own the USA and the world as well in their so called I.T. Maybe USA shouldnt introduce India at the first place so these guys will stop hypocriting
azn11001 4 years ago
Lou Dobbs is a patriot and trying to save America's middle class from the war on the middle class caused by the invasion of cheap labor from 3rd world countries. We have fought many battles to get this country where it is today.
ListenForTruth 4 years ago 2
It's normal for America looking after the welfare of the American people (1st class citizen) to endure increasingly jobless rates. I'm sure that 1000 programmers or IT technologists from america itself are something compared to the famous indian I.T that they're so cheap to bought in. To ghan0011. What makes you think that 1000 indian programmer out there are qualified for a job in USA as well?
azn11001 4 years ago
The only way to fix this problem is if Tom Tancredo becomes Prez. but he doesn't have the bucks that the top tier corporate puppets have.
Support Tom Tancredo 2008
70AMX 4 years ago
There is no shortage of American workers. They're be layed off or fired and replaced with lower cost foreigners. There is no short term need except for the need to lower the labor costs.
The demand for software engineering courses in the US has shrunk to a fraction of what it was only a few years ago. This is because there are no jobs to speak of in software engineering for Americans. There goes America's technology leadership in software.
mespoppa 4 years ago 2