What am I missing here? If you throw an extra note after the very last note on the high E string it throws off the picking (up down) pattern on the way back down unless you omit some other note somewhere along the line. Anybody else happen to notice this???
right so i presume this is based on g seeing as it has an f sharp (thanks a bunch for telling us, its not like you're doing this t show off or anything -.- ) second of all arent you starting and finishing on different notes each time so it isnt phrygian any more? explain>?
@jkman10 well phrygian mode goes only over the minor chords.. + it gives you a bit of oriental feel to it.. so.. :D Minor all over :D What he's playing in this video is B phyrigian scale which is same to G major scale out of B.
@jkman10 its very similar to harmonic minor yes however it is a mode so you would use it slughtly different to a scale for example E phyrigian is the C major scale but you resolve it on the E rather than the C giving it a harmonic minor/ oriental feel. dont mix up modes and scales =)
Can someone assure me this one thing? I think that modes (basic diatonic ones) are the major scale over the chords of that scale and how you play.
Basically if I am playing in Gmaj the lydian mode would be the Gmaj scale or 'C lydian' which is C D E Fsharp G A B
Over the Cmaj(7) chord and also i need to try and create a Lydian/Major 'feel' when i play. This is how i portray the modes. Can someone tell me if thats incorrect and if so why?
Yeah, that would be correct if you're going to start on the 4th degree of the major and take it 4 degrees above the next octave. However, you can also use G as your tonic and just raise the 4th degree a half step which in the key of G would be C#
The problem I have is knowing how to use the scale up and down the neck... I have trouble trying to change positions and such and being able to use scales fluently with runs and such.
ya, I agree with jerry, phrygian is more of a jazz scale than anything, not super death blues goth punk metal, no offense, I like some of that stuff haha
Nope, You play B phrygian over some sort of B phyrgian vamp. In rock and metal alot of progressions have no thirds so you are given more options, but when playing a mode, your tonal center is the mode, not the parent scale.
man what you said there is what i'm trying to figure out, but it just doesn't click with me. do you have any resources that you would recomend to learn this sort of thing?
instead of just playing through patterns you should explain the formula for each mode and how they can be used in different keys. while this gives a good example of what the B phyrgian mode sounds like, it doesn't cover the actual mode by a long shot.
If you use your brain and figure the other keys out for yourself, experiment a bit, it explains it pretty well and gives a good example of how the scale might be used in a song.
yeah i used to do that ages ago until i realised i ain't gonna get any faster so i switched to using my wrist which took some time but with my fingers i could only like play max. 130bpm 16th notes and now like over 200bpm 16th notes...which shows: use yer wrist !
there is no such thing as flawed picking techniques. it's how he feels comfortable playing his guitar. he just doesn't pay attention to his finger picking he just lets it flow. check out marty friedman(good example.
It simply means to back the natural note by 1 fret, know as a half step or half tone. Flat 4th or flat 5th is improper name, because they are perfect intervals (due to frequency) they are properly called diminished 4th or diminished 5th.
Thanks, man. You should check out the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory". I don't say that to insult your intelligence, as a matter of fact, I'm reading through it myself right now. Very informative. Check out Doug Mark's Metal Method Lessons called Metal theory, very good. also. Later...
Yeah these guitar videos usually name intervals wrong. Phyrgian mode consists of your Tonic, a minor second, a minor third, perfect fourth and fifth, minor sixth, and minor seventh. All these guy is doing is showing you positions, which is not how modes work.
hey ok i have a question well here we go what does it mean when like in the phrygian mode e it is 1, flat2 , flat3, 4, 5 , flat 6 , flat7 so what is that i know theres seven notes but how do you know if its flat or not because the 3 rd and 4th isnt flat on the fretboard cuz ibeleieve its the1st fret and second well the 1st is but not 2nd
number your notes 1-7 so in this vid the key is b so the 1st=b 2nd=c 3rd =d and so on. because there is no b#/cb and e#/fb as such, for your second note in the scale c natural will be your flatened, (c# would be the note if it was a nornal 2nd) the flat3 will be d (it would be D# if it was a normal 3rd) and so on. giving u a full scale of BCDEF#GAB. does that make sense? i found ur question a bit difficult to understand!
Comes from the Greek, I believe it represents multiple Island names. Unless I'm mistaken, all 7 are: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian and Locrian.
@Phadreusone hello from Greece i got to hand it to u that u almost got it there..indeed they are Greek terms but not names.They are names of races in ancient Greece
@ellinasethnikos hello from Greece,they are not races,these are ancient Greek dialects,not races.Greece was very large and the people had diff. dialects or diff. ways of using the language,the same as in Italy,they speak Italian a little diff. evrywhere you go.Your close though.
@ellinasethnikos sorry to embarrass you I didnt know you were Greek ,oh well at least youve learned sumthin` you didnt know ,remember,dialects of speech,
@PAULOcbi dude first of all u are not able to embarrass me....second...DIALECTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAMES U R REFERING AS SCALES....FOR EXAMPLE I AM MOLOSOS WICH COMES FROM EPIRUS.......another thing are dialects and another thing is name for each place of Greece a Greek was.....Spartans....Eolians...Eonians etc etc.....THEY ARE PEOPLE NOT DIALECTS........dialects were different either way depending on those places
@ellinasethnikos listen I`m saying that yes, those were the names that were given to represent the Greeks in each area of early Greece,I agree.You gotta understand that they were given those name ,Doric,Ionic,Phyrigian...etc. because these are the diff, dialects of the Greek language.So if you spoke Doric,you lived in Doric or Dorian part of Greece,you capice now??!!
@ellinasethnikos allright then...back to my Phrygian.I had a Greek girlfriend for 2 years,we lived together in T.O. .I used to wait for her at GoldenGriddle on CollegeSt. while she did her escort date then we would go to clubs and drink Ouzo.She puked all over me onetime.too much Ouzo,but she was a good girl,lotta fun.
@PAULOcbi escort date what the anyways,,,,too much oyzo harms the body.My ancestors were saying everything with measure or everything with right quantity>
@Phadreusone they are Greek dialects not races.Dialects just means diff. ways of speaking the same language,it happens when countries have a lot of islands like Italy has many dialects as well.Its apt for music `cos you can play all these scales using Ionian by just moving up or down a coupla frets .
guitarman505 you have hit the secret. g ionan, a dorian, b phrygian ,c lydian,d mixolydian,e aolian, f# locrian. they are all the same. when played over a song in g they are all ionian. when played over a song in a they are all dorian etc. stitch all the patterns together move up 2 frets and you will be playing a ionian b dorian etc magic.
All the modes are different ways to play the Major scale with different roots. Dorian has the root on the 2nd grade. Phrygian has the root on the 3rd grade, and Lydian on the 4rd, etc.
An example:
a C Ionian scale is: C D E F G A B
a C Dorian: C D Eb F G A Bb
a C Phrgian: C Db Eb F G Ab Bb
In this video he plays a B Phrygian. In lesson 2 he played an A Dorian
Just incase you guys are wondering why you don't sound the same even though you're playing the B. He's actually playing B flat... he's tuned down a half step
You should let people know at the beginning what key you're playing in - the "phrygian mode" doesn't say much unless you know what key you're in... I like playing in D Phrygian, whereas you're playing in B Phrygian now, which is the third mode of the G major scale, just to let everyone know
Keep rockin, dude - I've learned a helluva lot from you so far... you should post a lesson on the Phrygian Dominant mode - it's by far one of my favorites
What am I missing here? If you throw an extra note after the very last note on the high E string it throws off the picking (up down) pattern on the way back down unless you omit some other note somewhere along the line. Anybody else happen to notice this???
emach07 1 week ago
so if i were to do a phrygian arpeggio wouldn't it be a minor arpeggio.
LartenCreapsly 6 months ago
The best example of this mode must be Tenacious D's "The Metal" :p
ThaThing1337x 10 months ago 2
right so i presume this is based on g seeing as it has an f sharp (thanks a bunch for telling us, its not like you're doing this t show off or anything -.- ) second of all arent you starting and finishing on different notes each time so it isnt phrygian any more? explain>?
Thentox 1 year ago
The Greek's never leave their buddy's..behind.
skorziks 1 year ago
cool yo!
meomomonoultramicros 1 year ago
Cool video man!
Scorpio598 1 year ago
it sounds minor. Does it make it minor?
jkman10 2 years ago
@jkman10 well phrygian mode goes only over the minor chords.. + it gives you a bit of oriental feel to it.. so.. :D Minor all over :D What he's playing in this video is B phyrigian scale which is same to G major scale out of B.
HeavyThrashGuitar 2 years ago
@jkman10 its very similar to harmonic minor yes however it is a mode so you would use it slughtly different to a scale for example E phyrigian is the C major scale but you resolve it on the E rather than the C giving it a harmonic minor/ oriental feel. dont mix up modes and scales =)
geeupson 1 year ago
tabs :(
Reuben961 2 years ago
this guy is such a great teacher i just wish they could get a clearer picture of what and where his fingers are on the fretboard
wendalclarke 2 years ago 3
Can someone assure me this one thing? I think that modes (basic diatonic ones) are the major scale over the chords of that scale and how you play.
Basically if I am playing in Gmaj the lydian mode would be the Gmaj scale or 'C lydian' which is C D E Fsharp G A B
Over the Cmaj(7) chord and also i need to try and create a Lydian/Major 'feel' when i play. This is how i portray the modes. Can someone tell me if thats incorrect and if so why?
Many Thanks
-Tom :-)
tommie997 2 years ago
pretty much yh if you do frank gamble modes no mystery video he explains it very clearly and simple
pelry 2 years ago
Yeah, that would be correct if you're going to start on the 4th degree of the major and take it 4 degrees above the next octave. However, you can also use G as your tonic and just raise the 4th degree a half step which in the key of G would be C#
lkeller1000 2 years ago
The problem I have is knowing how to use the scale up and down the neck... I have trouble trying to change positions and such and being able to use scales fluently with runs and such.
jmann114 2 years ago
ya, I agree with jerry, phrygian is more of a jazz scale than anything, not super death blues goth punk metal, no offense, I like some of that stuff haha
sixstring098 2 years ago
Too much playing
quarbon 2 years ago
Just found your channel. I was trying to really understand modes and watching you I now got the missing piece of the puzzle.
toml71 2 years ago
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metalaxer13 2 years ago
So I would play in B phrygian over G maj? Does that mean I could also play in B phrygian if I wanted to play over an E minor progression?
bushinarin 2 years ago
Nope, You play B phrygian over some sort of B phyrgian vamp. In rock and metal alot of progressions have no thirds so you are given more options, but when playing a mode, your tonal center is the mode, not the parent scale.
oregonskateok 2 years ago
man what you said there is what i'm trying to figure out, but it just doesn't click with me. do you have any resources that you would recomend to learn this sort of thing?
surferbrah84 2 years ago
instead of just playing through patterns you should explain the formula for each mode and how they can be used in different keys. while this gives a good example of what the B phyrgian mode sounds like, it doesn't cover the actual mode by a long shot.
windmills20 2 years ago
If you use your brain and figure the other keys out for yourself, experiment a bit, it explains it pretty well and gives a good example of how the scale might be used in a song.
Mrcowasdf 2 years ago
basically a B phrygian mode is a G major scale starting on a B, so yes
samoanthunder08 3 years ago
so if im playing in g major.the third would be, b phrygian right?
letiziaytito 3 years ago
This guy's picking technique is flawed.
He's using his fingers rather than wrist.
xcaliber45x 3 years ago
Hey, it gets the job done, doesn't it? Tell that to Van Halen, who puts the pick tween his thumb and middle finger.
cloudjessie42 3 years ago 3
yeah i used to do that ages ago until i realised i ain't gonna get any faster so i switched to using my wrist which took some time but with my fingers i could only like play max. 130bpm 16th notes and now like over 200bpm 16th notes...which shows: use yer wrist !
menuuzer 3 years ago
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sacredgeometry 3 years ago
i was the opposite i have a limit of about 145b playing semi quavers on my wrist my fingers are much more precise and faster
sacredgeometry 3 years ago
who cares if its flawed, as long as it gets the job done.
imit 2 years ago
there is no such thing as flawed picking techniques. it's how he feels comfortable playing his guitar. he just doesn't pay attention to his finger picking he just lets it flow. check out marty friedman(good example.
xxwantedxx 2 years ago
It simply means to back the natural note by 1 fret, know as a half step or half tone. Flat 4th or flat 5th is improper name, because they are perfect intervals (due to frequency) they are properly called diminished 4th or diminished 5th.
94LesPaul 3 years ago
wow u guys know so much theory abt music...i wish even i knew all that
neo3187 3 years ago
Thanks, man. You should check out the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory". I don't say that to insult your intelligence, as a matter of fact, I'm reading through it myself right now. Very informative. Check out Doug Mark's Metal Method Lessons called Metal theory, very good. also. Later...
94LesPaul 3 years ago
Yeah these guitar videos usually name intervals wrong. Phyrgian mode consists of your Tonic, a minor second, a minor third, perfect fourth and fifth, minor sixth, and minor seventh. All these guy is doing is showing you positions, which is not how modes work.
oregonskateok 3 years ago
hey ok i have a question well here we go what does it mean when like in the phrygian mode e it is 1, flat2 , flat3, 4, 5 , flat 6 , flat7 so what is that i know theres seven notes but how do you know if its flat or not because the 3 rd and 4th isnt flat on the fretboard cuz ibeleieve its the1st fret and second well the 1st is but not 2nd
slash5155 3 years ago
number your notes 1-7 so in this vid the key is b so the 1st=b 2nd=c 3rd =d and so on. because there is no b#/cb and e#/fb as such, for your second note in the scale c natural will be your flatened, (c# would be the note if it was a nornal 2nd) the flat3 will be d (it would be D# if it was a normal 3rd) and so on. giving u a full scale of BCDEF#GAB. does that make sense? i found ur question a bit difficult to understand!
sparrabag 3 years ago
1, b2, b3, 4, 5, b6, b7, 8' are intervals, this is the formula to make the phrygian mode.
gabriel2099 3 years ago
HOW DOES HE PICK LIKE THAT!
goldenchopsticks 3 years ago
you wanna see weird picking check out marty friedman
rockboot90 3 years ago 12
more like EVH
erasedcitizen77 3 years ago
true, both have very weird styles.
rockboot90 3 years ago
I'm confused... Was that G major? You were playing B phrygian and then it looked like you were doing something else when you started on E.
deathlaychur 3 years ago
1. make a dvd
2. make a website
3. give us tabs!!!!
you are amazing!!!
vai1991lob 3 years ago
this is my favorite mode for soloing
sodarajadude97 3 years ago
dude... that was fuckin amazing
you have made my solos like 1000 times better!!!
THANK YOU!
3r1kw00t 3 years ago
whats up with all the ancient names for guitar modes?
whatever182281 3 years ago
Comes from the Greek, I believe it represents multiple Island names. Unless I'm mistaken, all 7 are: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian and Locrian.
Phadreusone 3 years ago 13
thank you very much! :)
whatever182281 3 years ago
@Phadreusone hello from Greece i got to hand it to u that u almost got it there..indeed they are Greek terms but not names.They are names of races in ancient Greece
ellinasethnikos 1 year ago
@ellinasethnikos hello from Greece,they are not races,these are ancient Greek dialects,not races.Greece was very large and the people had diff. dialects or diff. ways of using the language,the same as in Italy,they speak Italian a little diff. evrywhere you go.Your close though.
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
@PAULOcbi im close?loooooooooooool.......dude i'm Greek and what i say is correct
ellinasethnikos 1 year ago
@ellinasethnikos sorry to embarrass you I didnt know you were Greek ,oh well at least youve learned sumthin` you didnt know ,remember,dialects of speech,
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
@PAULOcbi dude first of all u are not able to embarrass me....second...DIALECTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAMES U R REFERING AS SCALES....FOR EXAMPLE I AM MOLOSOS WICH COMES FROM EPIRUS.......another thing are dialects and another thing is name for each place of Greece a Greek was.....Spartans....Eolians...Eonians etc etc.....THEY ARE PEOPLE NOT DIALECTS........dialects were different either way depending on those places
ellinasethnikos 1 year ago
@ellinasethnikos listen I`m saying that yes, those were the names that were given to represent the Greeks in each area of early Greece,I agree.You gotta understand that they were given those name ,Doric,Ionic,Phyrigian...etc. because these are the diff, dialects of the Greek language.So if you spoke Doric,you lived in Doric or Dorian part of Greece,you capice now??!!
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
@PAULOcbi now ur talking......
ellinasethnikos 1 year ago
@ellinasethnikos allright then...back to my Phrygian.I had a Greek girlfriend for 2 years,we lived together in T.O. .I used to wait for her at GoldenGriddle on CollegeSt. while she did her escort date then we would go to clubs and drink Ouzo.She puked all over me onetime.too much Ouzo,but she was a good girl,lotta fun.
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
@PAULOcbi escort date what the anyways,,,,too much oyzo harms the body.My ancestors were saying everything with measure or everything with right quantity>
ellinasethnikos 1 year ago
@Phadreusone they are Greek dialects not races.Dialects just means diff. ways of speaking the same language,it happens when countries have a lot of islands like Italy has many dialects as well.Its apt for music `cos you can play all these scales using Ionian by just moving up or down a coupla frets .
PAULOcbi 1 year ago
@Phadreusone Yes, all these are Greek names:)
phod91 1 year ago
@Phadreusone I think Ionia was a Greek province on asia minor and phrygia was below that. But I think most of them are islands.
grumpybritishguy 5 months ago
@Phadreusone actually tribe names. :)
Roukangas 3 months ago
they're like greek or something
mawjingo 3 years ago
Give me one of ur gibson's ^^
raphaworshiper 3 years ago 2
shows you what you need if you dont know it already
allpowerfull1 3 years ago
actually he is out of tune by a quarter of a step, maybe he tried to ear tune his guitar
itsstevol2 3 years ago
guitarman505 you have hit the secret. g ionan, a dorian, b phrygian ,c lydian,d mixolydian,e aolian, f# locrian. they are all the same. when played over a song in g they are all ionian. when played over a song in a they are all dorian etc. stitch all the patterns together move up 2 frets and you will be playing a ionian b dorian etc magic.
808hawk 3 years ago
Woo!
cheesepuffpie 3 years ago
wait a minute, im confused...these are the same notes as dorian, so what makes it a different mode? just the root note?
guitarman505 3 years ago
Yeah, the root note makes the difference.
All the modes are different ways to play the Major scale with different roots. Dorian has the root on the 2nd grade. Phrygian has the root on the 3rd grade, and Lydian on the 4rd, etc.
An example:
a C Ionian scale is: C D E F G A B
a C Dorian: C D Eb F G A Bb
a C Phrgian: C Db Eb F G Ab Bb
In this video he plays a B Phrygian. In lesson 2 he played an A Dorian
Maglorz 3 years ago 2
Just incase you guys are wondering why you don't sound the same even though you're playing the B. He's actually playing B flat... he's tuned down a half step
Zakkwyldeforlife 4 years ago 2
no he isnt
thecurse23 4 years ago
Actually he's tuned down about a quarter step.
Danowarthemanowar 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
theres no such thing as tuning a quarter step
either wholes or halves
kmish213 3 years ago
There are quarter steps in Eastern music
Disraeli91 3 years ago
great lesson, great teaching, thanks!!
kyaimaja 4 years ago
You should let people know at the beginning what key you're playing in - the "phrygian mode" doesn't say much unless you know what key you're in... I like playing in D Phrygian, whereas you're playing in B Phrygian now, which is the third mode of the G major scale, just to let everyone know
Keep rockin, dude - I've learned a helluva lot from you so far... you should post a lesson on the Phrygian Dominant mode - it's by far one of my favorites
Good luck
jonnybake5 4 years ago
Do you the see "lesson 3" part of this vid? He does explain it if you start from the beginning.
NumbNutz12000 4 years ago
Ah. I apologize - I made the oldest mistake in the book - starting from the middle and getting cocky about it. :)
Thanks for letting me know, man. Appreciate it.
Jon
jonnybake5 4 years ago
nice lesson, helps out alot
sexloveanddrugs 4 years ago
amazing lesson man thanks
makethemsuffernow666 4 years ago
good lesson but i have to slow everything down like 15 bpm. besides me not being good enough for the lesson its awesome
peaceman999 4 years ago
cool video.
automatic4thepeople 4 years ago
Hi bmolton
cool video!!!
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WwwLickonizerDe 4 years ago
good but a bit rushed
RawbThatPunk 4 years ago
i like it
waterproofcompanion 5 years ago