A historian analyzes Korean drama Hwang Jini

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

ファン・ジニについて調べてたらブッフォンさんの動画につきあた­りました。　一年前ですが字幕お疲れさまです。宮脇淳子先生の動画英訳版あれ­ばいいな～と思っていたらすでにお仕事済みだったのですね。いつ­もながらGJです

[kaz2011a]

You are still exporting Kisaeng... Stop this.

[MattressGallery]

This woman is really reaching to find conspiracies in Korean dramas.... In either case, can you find a historical documentary in any country that is not full of errors and distortions? Just look at the series "Rome" by HBO in America. Where is the mention of all the slavery and hardship of the common people of the Roman Empire?

If she sticks to criticizing historians, this is fine, but historical drama makers are only for etnertainment, and nobody expects them to master finer details!

[BuffonMusa]

@MattressGallery

If Americans blindly believe what they saw on Hollywood historical movies then it's a big problem.

[MattressGallery]

Also the use of hangul is strongly underplayed by Japanese rightists and historical reivisionists -- by some accounts, roughly 15% of Korean peasantry could read hangul by the end of the 19th century, mostly for writing their own names and such. It was also used to transcribe Chinese characters for the instruction of the children of yangban learning the Confucian classics. So how can anybody say with a straight face that it went "extinct" until the Japan discovered it for Koreans? Bullshit

[MattressGallery]

Google "金箔" or geumbak, the Korean tradition of applying gilt patterns to silk clothing. So Koreans never wore patterns because the Japanese had them? This woman is a terrible fake

[MattressGallery]

Either way, Joseon of 17th century (era of Hwang Jin-Yi) was much different than Joseon of 19th century, when it was weak and backward due to centuries of corrupt rule under the Qing, as well as devastation from the Manchu invasions. Read Henrick Hamel's accounts of life in Korea during the 17th century. He describes elaborate cities, temples, court life, etc. -- much of which was gone by the time of the Japanese annexation, but it was a totally different country then.

[MattressGallery]

What fabrications in this video... Here, let me show you old Korean pictures of gisaeng wearing hanbok WITH coloring:

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(from 雙劍對舞, early 19th century)

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(photo of joseon gisaeng, early 20th century)

The practice of Koreans wearing white clothing was NOT universal even in late Joseon period. Look how she lies with a straight face. I hate Korean nationalist, but Japanese nationalist are such contemptible liars.

[BuffonMusa]

@MattressGallery

Thank you, but what she said was they didn't wear pattern printed fabric.

High class Koreans were wearing color fabric because they could buy color fabric or dye from China.

[Huhmasta]

lol it's a korean drama, I wouldn't take it too seriously.... tv shows are primarily meant for entertainment, no education.

[BuffonSarutobi]

@Huhmasta

Agreed.

But there was a survey that majority of Korean people believe history drama as historical fact.

[Huhmasta]

@BuffonSarutobi well then I feel sorry for them.... historical dramas should serve the purpose of entertainment and maybe the hopes of sparking interest for viewers to look up for themselves what really happened. Dramas like Jumong are based off of actual events and people, but since most of what we know of the era seems to be from myths, that's where fictional things get in place for the sake of entertainment.

[imm10999]

isn't the pot thing because clay was very abundant in korea? i don't know for sure tho but this is all intriguing.

[BigJtoni]

Korean culture hwang jini

japanese copy culture

first korean hair

[gingerbeardbastard]

Although the information in the video fits in real history. I am not sure it is true that Choson Dynasty doesnt have the wheel or technology to bent wood. How can they build ships if they cant bend wood? THey must of have the wheelbarrel learnt from the chinese.

Or is it because the lost in translation from japanese?

[BuffonMusa]

@gingerbeardbastard

Choson had wheel.(but don't need do bend wood)

The wheel she mentioned may be something special.

But I don't know.

She said she heard from a Choson history expert.

[Superstarrockmetal]

@BuffonMusa It's true that the Yangbans were like the French aristocrats before the French Revolution, but this prof's claim that they were only 3% and the rest were commoners, or slaves is false. Between the commoners and the higher-class Yangban, there were middle-class people called 중인. They were like Yangbans, except they had less wealth and lower social status than the higher-class Yangbans.

[BuffonMusa]

@gingerbeardbastard

I found out why she said"Choson didn't have wheel."

Korean scholar 鄭東愈1744―1808） wrote 「嘗謂朝鮮之俗有至拙者三至難者二 無針拙一 不知養羊拙二 無車拙三」 on 晝永編 in 1805.

"There are 3 things what Choson don't have, needle, sheep, and wheel"

The wheel seems to be carriage.

[Superstarrockmetal]

@BuffonMusa They used primitive cranes (made by the inventor Jung Yak Yong) to build the Suwon Fortress with precision. I heard many times, my ancestors loved white clothing and called themselves 백의민족 people who wear white clothes. I think the prof's right in this part.

[BuffonMusa]

@gingerbeardbastard

鄭東愈 also described 我國有舟無車 "We have ship but no wheel(carriage)"

But there was carriage called 軺軒 Chehong, it's one wheel carriage and only nobles could use. I have the photo.

[gingerbeardbastard]

@BuffonMusa Thank you for the information! As usual, you are very resourceful. Keep up the good work

[Superstarrockmetal]

@BuffonMusa I searched for 嘗謂朝鮮之俗有至拙者三至難者二 無針拙一 不知養羊拙二 無車拙三 and only one result came up. And it was a Japanese website, interesting.

Stop talking nonsense- you're no better than Chosunninja, who is a shame to Korea.

Like gunpowder (China),

useful materal during the time were all traded between the countries. Japanese merchants brought chilly pepper, matchlock muskets, tobacco to Korea around 16th century

if Korea didn't have needles, how did they sew hanbok?

As for wheels: google: "SHINKICHON"

[BuffonMusa]

@Superstarrockmetal

Check kjclub.

There was a reading group of the text.

[BuffonSarutobi]

@Superstarrockmetal

I found actual texts of the book.

Please check my blog.

>if Korea didn't have needles, how did they sew hanbok?

The book says Korea imported needles from China.

[serpent2012]

先生、勉強になんりました

[sikanosukeyamanaka]

自分のチャンネルに書いてるけどまさにこれだなｗ

韓非子に言う、食客の中に、斉王のために絵を描く人間がいた。王­が質問して言った。「絵画は何が一番難しいか」。答えて言うには­、「犬や馬が最も難しいです」。「何が最も易しいか」。答えて言­うには、「お化けのたぐいが最も易しいです。犬や馬というものは­、人々が皆見知っているものです。朝夕目の前で見ているものです­から、これに似せるのは難しいので、それで難しいのです。お化け­のたぐいは形が無く、形がないものは見ることができませんので、­それで易しいのです」



[Etgyv]

なんにもないから何でも作れる

この一言が全てだな・・・

[BuffonMusa]

@Etgyv

"They can create anything because there is nothing."

I'm sure I am not the only person who thought the words associated Chosonninja.

[herifuzhenguan3]

@BuffonMusa Can you upload more clips of her? She is a very good historian.

[FatGuyWithAKatana]

you need to find some videos of her in less clothing, possibly mud wrestling...

[jojoismyname08]

@FatGuyWithAKatana dude, you really do have a thing for her! hehehe!

[FatGuyWithAKatana]

@jojoismyname08 he keeps uploading videos of her and i'm in a dry spell so yeah, i want to marry her.