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Your gun performed no better than a Taurus Judge would at those ranges. And most importantly, you are saying that #8 birdshot is equal to anything the Judge uses in 410 which is total crap. You need to stop telling people lies.
@wtg2989 You missed the point completely. If one already owns a colt 45 revolver, it is possible to get equal performance with a Judge shooting 2-1/2" 410 shells, by using the load represented in this video. Smaller shot gives a denser pattern. Any shotgunner know this. For up close, small shot is best for snakes and rats, etc. You need to stop and think before you open your big mouth.
@LowKeyLanding No I got your point. The 45 colt "shot shell" if you want to call it that has less power and less shot. Therefore, saying it provides equal performance to a 410 shell is not true. I have seen it demonstrated. The patterns are not the same. So maybe you should think before you make a video that makes shit up out of nowhere. Saying their performance is equal is false.
@wtg2989 You still don't get it. This 45 Colt shot shell load has 1/2 oz of shot, just like a 2-1/2" 410 shell. No difference. The revolver I used is a 45 SAA clone, and has a 45 caliber bore, just like the Judge. Compare apples to apples. Go to a range and pattern your Judge with a 2-1/2" 410 shell at the same range as in my video, and post the results. There will not be much difference. For anyone who already has a 45 Colt revolver, they can get equal performance to the Judge,
@LowKeyLanding I have already patterned my judge and at 10 YARDS with any birdshot it spread the same as yours at 10 feet. I shouldn't have to post a video for that. You should be able to realize that on your own.
@LowKeyLanding I'm not going to upload a video just to prove a point. I may upload one someday, but I can't any time soon. Just trust me, they are not the same.
If you do own a Taurus Judge you can also use this round which gives you a more diverse choice of ammunition. I enjoy the three inch .410 option myself.
@Cainkane1 These loads would work in a Judge, but if you have the option of using 410-3" I wouldn't bother with it. I only tried this to see if I could make a 45 Colt SAA shoot shot shells well enough to be useful for things like snakes and rats.
@stratoman83 When I tried this I was mainly interested in small shot for snakes, etc. You might be able to make some effective loads with smaller buckshot, like #4.
@TheFallguy11 - I see no reason for these loads to be any harder on a barrel than a single bullet would be, especially a jacketed bullet. The shot is lead, and therefore soft as a bullet, and the plastic capsule is brittle and shatters, and has much less strength that the steel barrel.
Owners of the judge: What do you think about the spread using shot shells? I figger its kinda silly to spin the charge instead of just making it a hand held shotgun from the start (stupid laws aside and all) which is probably why they don't make a smooth bore judge.
When are you going to do a video showing your reloading techniques? I have 6 pistols chambered in .45 Colt, but the one I would carry in the woods would be a 43/4 in. barrel Cabela's Millenium. It's light, quick to draw, and if I lost it, I wouldn't be out much money. Anyway, I'd like to see how you arrange the wads for the load you're using. I hunt wild boar in Texas and the snakes there are mean and numerous.
@curly27784 Sorry I haven't followed up. Wads cut out using a hole punch from Harbor Freight. Over powder wad is carboard and the under shot wad is softer rubber gasket material. Shot cup is Speer 45 cal, which has been shortened. Very light crimp on the shell case and a drop of superglue. None of the shot caps backed out when firing. Holds a little over 1/2 oz of shot, which equals a 2-1/2" 410 shell. Works with 44 mag also. Reduced charge 2400 powder & #9 to #12 shot. Good patterns.
@KrankieV2 The reason I did this experiment was to see if it was feasible to make a 45 Colt revolver shoot shot shells that were equivalent to a 410. And for 2-1/2" 410 shells, this method will shoot the same amount of shot (1/2" oz) and result in a pretty good pattern up close. It would work for snakes. It is not meant to compete with a Judge that is chambered for 3" shells.
@KrankieV2 I was just making a comment. I would not spend the money for a Judge. I already have a 45 Colt, and the intent was to see if I could get good enough performance out of it with shot shells, to use for a trail gun in the summer for snakes. It exceeded my expectations. A Colt SAA type of revolver is lighter than a Judge and points naturally, and fortunately has a good pattern. I have done the same with a 44 mag revolver with a 7-1/2" barrel and it works well too.
Now... Let me see you shoot buck shot style rounds. The best thing about the Judge is options. Now theres the Judge Public Defender snub nose,; the Judge in a small package...
Im not knocking the Judge, just stating a preference. For about the same money, one could have a Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt and have a gun that will accurately shoot high pressure loads exceeding 44 mag performance, and also shoot equivalent 2-1/2 410 shot loads. Buck Shot is not optimum in a 410. It does not use the volume available for shot very efficiently. Smaller shot works better. Id like to run a few tests on a Judge, but Im not going to spend the money to buy one.
Reloading data indicated max powder load was 6.0 to 6.3 grains for Bullseye for 230-250 grain bullets, and traveling down a barrel, shot is no different from a solid slug. These loads had 235 gr of #9 shot. #10 to #12 shot would probably work better. This powder load should not over pressure anything, but be careful with your antique. Treat it nicely. I have an original Colt SAA 38-40.
That's what I thought (but wasn't sure). I treat my antique very good only shot it maybe fifteen drums worth. I am however planning on getting a replica and shoot that instead. I have never seen a replica of a colt single action army, mostly older models (1858, 1860 colt new army) But, yeah I'm antique and shotgun nut. Can't have enough. I even have an 'air shotgun' made by Gamo called the Viper Express look it up, I have made custom loads with it too
The gun I'm using is a modern replica of the Colt SAA. It is a Taurus Gaucho and can handle modern ammo. I shoot blackpowder in it on occasion, but it sure is a pain to clean.
Can these be shot with an antique revolver (colt single action) if the revolver is in vwery good condition (shoot it all the time) I know this is smokeless powder but, being that the pressure generated by these shot shells is lighter than the 250 grain cowboy loads (there's shot shells don't go much over 150 grains) it shouldn't cause any harm to the loading chamber.
True...this was not meant to contradict anyone who wants a 3" Judge. But if you own a 45 Colt pistol it is possible to match the capability of a 2-1/2" 410 shell in the standard 45 Colt. The original Judge has a 2-1/2" cylinder and does not shoot single projectile rounds all that accurately. You can have both capabilities with a standard 45 Colt. For instance, a Ruger Blackhawk is a perfect all around pistol. It can fire high pressure 45 Colt loads and also match 410 shot loads.
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The4WanGstErZ 1 month ago
Your gun performed no better than a Taurus Judge would at those ranges. And most importantly, you are saying that #8 birdshot is equal to anything the Judge uses in 410 which is total crap. You need to stop telling people lies.
wtg2989 1 month ago
@wtg2989 You missed the point completely. If one already owns a colt 45 revolver, it is possible to get equal performance with a Judge shooting 2-1/2" 410 shells, by using the load represented in this video. Smaller shot gives a denser pattern. Any shotgunner know this. For up close, small shot is best for snakes and rats, etc. You need to stop and think before you open your big mouth.
LowKeyLanding 1 month ago
@LowKeyLanding No I got your point. The 45 colt "shot shell" if you want to call it that has less power and less shot. Therefore, saying it provides equal performance to a 410 shell is not true. I have seen it demonstrated. The patterns are not the same. So maybe you should think before you make a video that makes shit up out of nowhere. Saying their performance is equal is false.
wtg2989 1 month ago
@wtg2989 You still don't get it. This 45 Colt shot shell load has 1/2 oz of shot, just like a 2-1/2" 410 shell. No difference. The revolver I used is a 45 SAA clone, and has a 45 caliber bore, just like the Judge. Compare apples to apples. Go to a range and pattern your Judge with a 2-1/2" 410 shell at the same range as in my video, and post the results. There will not be much difference. For anyone who already has a 45 Colt revolver, they can get equal performance to the Judge,
LowKeyLanding 1 month ago
@LowKeyLanding I have already patterned my judge and at 10 YARDS with any birdshot it spread the same as yours at 10 feet. I shouldn't have to post a video for that. You should be able to realize that on your own.
wtg2989 1 month ago
@wtg2989 Put it up. I want to see it. I have always wanted to have the opportunity to pattern a Judge.
LowKeyLanding 1 month ago
@LowKeyLanding I'm not going to upload a video just to prove a point. I may upload one someday, but I can't any time soon. Just trust me, they are not the same.
wtg2989 1 month ago
I wonder if I can load 45 colt slugs in 12 gauge shotgun shells?
md4872 1 month ago
If you do own a Taurus Judge you can also use this round which gives you a more diverse choice of ammunition. I enjoy the three inch .410 option myself.
Cainkane1 4 months ago
@Cainkane1 These loads would work in a Judge, but if you have the option of using 410-3" I wouldn't bother with it. I only tried this to see if I could make a 45 Colt SAA shoot shot shells well enough to be useful for things like snakes and rats.
LowKeyLanding 4 months ago
Number 4 buck might be pretty affective, worth a try!!
stratoman83 5 months ago
@stratoman83 number 4 shot being considered buckshot! Or are you referring to 0000? I shoot number 4 shot at ducks.
ilikedovehunting 1 month ago
Looks like a great trail gun. Only downside is that you can't use buckshot.
stratoman83 5 months ago
@stratoman83 When I tried this I was mainly interested in small shot for snakes, etc. You might be able to make some effective loads with smaller buckshot, like #4.
LowKeyLanding 5 months ago
Great snake load! Is there any harm to the barrel using these loads?
TheFallguy11 6 months ago
@TheFallguy11 - I see no reason for these loads to be any harder on a barrel than a single bullet would be, especially a jacketed bullet. The shot is lead, and therefore soft as a bullet, and the plastic capsule is brittle and shatters, and has much less strength that the steel barrel.
LowKeyLanding 6 months ago
Owners of the judge: What do you think about the spread using shot shells? I figger its kinda silly to spin the charge instead of just making it a hand held shotgun from the start (stupid laws aside and all) which is probably why they don't make a smooth bore judge.
UpcomingJedi 7 months ago
If you own a taurus judge you can shoot .410's and the 45 colt shot shell. I'd like to load mine with both and see which gives the best spread.
Cainkane1 7 months ago
I enjoy my Taurus Judge which can also fire these .45 shot shells.
Cainkane1 8 months ago
When are you going to do a video showing your reloading techniques? I have 6 pistols chambered in .45 Colt, but the one I would carry in the woods would be a 43/4 in. barrel Cabela's Millenium. It's light, quick to draw, and if I lost it, I wouldn't be out much money. Anyway, I'd like to see how you arrange the wads for the load you're using. I hunt wild boar in Texas and the snakes there are mean and numerous.
curly27784 10 months ago
@curly27784 Sorry I haven't followed up. Wads cut out using a hole punch from Harbor Freight. Over powder wad is carboard and the under shot wad is softer rubber gasket material. Shot cup is Speer 45 cal, which has been shortened. Very light crimp on the shell case and a drop of superglue. None of the shot caps backed out when firing. Holds a little over 1/2 oz of shot, which equals a 2-1/2" 410 shell. Works with 44 mag also. Reduced charge 2400 powder & #9 to #12 shot. Good patterns.
LowKeyLanding 10 months ago
That appears to be a bit tighter grouping than the Judge, which I would prefer
KrankieV2 1 year ago
@KrankieV2 The reason I did this experiment was to see if it was feasible to make a 45 Colt revolver shoot shot shells that were equivalent to a 410. And for 2-1/2" 410 shells, this method will shoot the same amount of shot (1/2" oz) and result in a pretty good pattern up close. It would work for snakes. It is not meant to compete with a Judge that is chambered for 3" shells.
LowKeyLanding 1 year ago
@LowKeyLanding I didn't say it was supposed to compete with the Judge. I'm saying I like this pattern better, it seems to be a bit tighter.
KrankieV2 1 year ago
@KrankieV2 I was just making a comment. I would not spend the money for a Judge. I already have a 45 Colt, and the intent was to see if I could get good enough performance out of it with shot shells, to use for a trail gun in the summer for snakes. It exceeded my expectations. A Colt SAA type of revolver is lighter than a Judge and points naturally, and fortunately has a good pattern. I have done the same with a 44 mag revolver with a 7-1/2" barrel and it works well too.
LowKeyLanding 1 year ago
The Circuit Judge Carbine is the best weapon around. End of story.
paco461 1 year ago
could it be used for self defence
thehammernator 1 year ago
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yrnbtrw 2 years ago
Now... Let me see you shoot buck shot style rounds. The best thing about the Judge is options. Now theres the Judge Public Defender snub nose,; the Judge in a small package...
Hardtailxxx 2 years ago
Im not knocking the Judge, just stating a preference. For about the same money, one could have a Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt and have a gun that will accurately shoot high pressure loads exceeding 44 mag performance, and also shoot equivalent 2-1/2 410 shot loads. Buck Shot is not optimum in a 410. It does not use the volume available for shot very efficiently. Smaller shot works better. Id like to run a few tests on a Judge, but Im not going to spend the money to buy one.
LowKeyLanding 2 years ago
. I'll be making a video on the best way to make them as the videos on youtube have inefficient (not to mention messy) ways to reload the shotshells.
Caretika 2 years ago
I meant you cant buy them at much more than 150 grain loads using #9 shot. I recognize that you reloaded these yourself.
Caretika 2 years ago
Reloading data indicated max powder load was 6.0 to 6.3 grains for Bullseye for 230-250 grain bullets, and traveling down a barrel, shot is no different from a solid slug. These loads had 235 gr of #9 shot. #10 to #12 shot would probably work better. This powder load should not over pressure anything, but be careful with your antique. Treat it nicely. I have an original Colt SAA 38-40.
LowKeyLanding 2 years ago
That's what I thought (but wasn't sure). I treat my antique very good only shot it maybe fifteen drums worth. I am however planning on getting a replica and shoot that instead. I have never seen a replica of a colt single action army, mostly older models (1858, 1860 colt new army) But, yeah I'm antique and shotgun nut. Can't have enough. I even have an 'air shotgun' made by Gamo called the Viper Express look it up, I have made custom loads with it too
Caretika 2 years ago
use blackpowder load becuse before
1890 most guns used black powder
camerl2009 2 years ago
The gun I'm using is a modern replica of the Colt SAA. It is a Taurus Gaucho and can handle modern ammo. I shoot blackpowder in it on occasion, but it sure is a pain to clean.
LowKeyLanding 2 years ago
wear did you get the shot cups
camerl2009 2 years ago
I got these from Midway. They have 45 cal, 44 cal, and 38/357 cal shot capsules.
LowKeyLanding 2 years ago
that sucks midway dont ship to canada
camerl2009 2 years ago
Can these be shot with an antique revolver (colt single action) if the revolver is in vwery good condition (shoot it all the time) I know this is smokeless powder but, being that the pressure generated by these shot shells is lighter than the 250 grain cowboy loads (there's shot shells don't go much over 150 grains) it shouldn't cause any harm to the loading chamber.
Caretika 2 years ago
but you cant get 0000 buck in .45 colt loads. And they have a 3in Taurus now
greatestsongsofLIFE 2 years ago
True...this was not meant to contradict anyone who wants a 3" Judge. But if you own a 45 Colt pistol it is possible to match the capability of a 2-1/2" 410 shell in the standard 45 Colt. The original Judge has a 2-1/2" cylinder and does not shoot single projectile rounds all that accurately. You can have both capabilities with a standard 45 Colt. For instance, a Ruger Blackhawk is a perfect all around pistol. It can fire high pressure 45 Colt loads and also match 410 shot loads.
LowKeyLanding 2 years ago