@Duck4212 I don't know many Democrats at church period. Its hard to be a bible believer when you're promoting abortion, homosexuality, a work-free social democracy and the banning of even mere mention of Christianity from the public square under the auspecises of "separation of church and state."
Now tell me, how does a "good Christian" LIKE some guy making fun of the gospel while trying to make a political point?
@MasterWooten You have a warped right wing self righteous view of politics, my friend. You have everybody classified into a nice neat order , don't you. First , being a Democrat doesn't mean supporting abortion, homosexuality, and or any particular social issue. Second you don't know what I support or don't support. Third I hate hypocrites to pray to God to look like a caring people but all they really love is their money even over the lives of others.
@Duck4212 Well Mr. Liberal, I suggest you becareful of those with whom you take ideological comfort. I've known far too many liberals and far too many conservatives to know that liberals tend to be wary of if not outwardly hostile to Christians especially those who support the living of a Godly and sober life. Liberals are about morla "laissez faire" morality and true Christians or believers in any faith are an afront to them even without saying anything to them. Its like a living guilt trip.
@MasterWooten You make it sound bad to be a liberal or progressive. You don't even know what a liberal ( or a conservative) is because everybody has liberal and conservative tendencies and it's all relative to opinion anyway. People are individuals mr.Con and the sooner you understand that the better. You just want somebody convenient to blame for all the your and world's problems. Of course people like you are never at fault and are perfect in God's eyes. I don't buy what your selling.
@Duck4212 Not bad, just difficult to be liberla or progressive and claim to still be a Christaina when liberals and progressives are the ones shoving faith out of the public square, they're the ones more likely to say "I don't believe in God", the polls and numbers bear this out time and time again. You can't be a Christian by claiming to be a "good person" and forsaking the Lord at every turn.
You need to decide, are you of God or of those who claim that we don't need God. Your choice.
@MasterWooten I guess you now have seen a Bible believing born again Christian who doesn't buy into the myth that the Republicans are the party of God. I don't buy into any political view that claims rights to God or denies Jesus. I hate all hypocrites whose claims of Christianity don't match their deeds. When I asked Jesus into my life and repented of my sins years and years ago He never asked me if I was a liberal or a conservative, but then He probably didn't care.
@Duck4212 "He never asked me if I was a liberal or a conservative,"
Well brother, He probably wants to know whether or not you will abide by his teachings and values, and I've gotta say .... liberlas tend NOT to abide by the Lord's teaching when it come to sexual and a whole range of personal morality issues.
My only issue with liberal politics (and I shouldn't say that they are yours...) is that liberal positions on many issues just don't square up with what scrpiture says.
@MasterWooten You have a bad tendency to group people on the basis of your political affiliation. Lib or Con cannot be defined or if it is attempted it tends to be based upon an opinion which varies greatly among people. Among the far right you are probably a lib. So maybe you dont abide by the Lord? . Is this good reasoning? It's nonsense. People are individuals. His teachings? You mean those teachings that elect politicians who constantly lie and promote fear, oppress the poor.
@Duck4212 Well then why are YOU only attacking conservatives? Seems like you have it figured out as to who's who.
All I'm saying is that whn it comes to values, one side while not perfect (I agree with that) is better than the other.
Look if one side warts and all at least claims to support and or respect my faith, I'm going to side with them over the otherside who largely ignores or ridicule my faith. This probably explains why most Christains DO identify as conservative.
@MasterWooten I hate hypocrisy. I see conservatives endorse people like Beck and Limbaugh I have a hard time thinking of them as the Lord's people. They aren't. They clearly demonstrate themselves as bigotted, hateful and hypocrites and if they go to church on Sunday claiming Jesus is their God being justified by their politics then they're greatly deluded. They don't know Jesus. If I see Republicans helping the poor instead of seeking tax reductions, then maybe I'll change my opinion.
@Duck4212 Okay. lets say for arguments sake, Limbaugh and Beck are bigots (I don't share their view but...), bigotry is far less a sin than blasphemy, support for homosexuality abortion and atheism which I hear from Bill Maher, Kieth Olbermann and Michael Moore.
The guys who the political left support generally dismiss, pervert or HATE Christianity. You don't hear Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck taking stands that are funadamentally anti-Christian. In fact beck IS a professing Christian.
@MasterWooten The guys on the political right do the same.The only difference is they pretend to be justified by the Word of God. They listen to demons who feed off anger and allow hate and biggotry to get a foothold in their lives. They know that other's wouldn't accept what really goes on in their minds so they attempt to hide and justify it through a distorted false verson of Christianity. These people don't know the real Jesus any more than I know brain surgery. Jesus knows who are His.
@Duck4212 The guys on the political left however outwardly reject God. So given a choice between he who rejects the Lord and he who claims to follow, him, I'm going to choose the latter.
The bigotry and the hate you talk about more often than not represents behaviours and lifetsyles often condemned in the very scriptures which you claim you follow, so what's dealio? Are you really a Christian or out here attacking those who claim to be a Christian which in and of itself is not Christian?
@MasterWooten People who can't or won't love & respect others, even though these others may be hostile to us and even Jesus Himself, cannot serve Jesus period. This applies to all who claim Jesus inluding you and me and everybody else. Jesus's work is done no other way. We can attend church, become baptized and born again, repent, help the poor, believe the Word, worship and pray every day, no matter it's all in vain if we won't love who we consider to be the Tax Collector. It's all hypocrisy
@Duck4212 Sure, and liberals are just as guilty of this as are conservatives. There's no "right-wing" monopoly on hostility. In fact your view of conservatives can be described as hostil as well "Mr. Pot." lol
@MasterWooten Where does Jesus tell us, that by following and accepting HIm, we are to circle the wagons and condemn people we don't like along with their sins,if any? We reject sin, not people. We are to love others by treating them with the same consideration and respect as we would want from them. This applies to even those we consider to be dire enemies. We are to try show Jesus to them even if they spit in our face.That's God's will. They may not accept Jesus but at least we did His will
@Duck4212 " Where does Jesus tell us, that by following and accepting HIm, we are to circle the wagons and condemn people we don't like along with their sins,if any?"
You sound just like a conservative who condemns homosexaulaity whilst staing not to condemn the actual homosexual.
"We are to try show Jesus to them even if they spit in our face" I dunno how many time Jerry Falwell claimed to be doing this. I mean absent any proof that he hated any individual, you can't say otherwise.
Vote for Bush? Never......quite possibly the dumbest man to ever hold office. Ideologically republican? No.....democrat? No...... I don't think the democrats, or the republicans either one, have had someone worth voting for in the last 20 years. Candidates have to cater to the traditional GOP, or the traditional Democratic voters, in order to get the nomination, then slide, ever so slightly toward the center, in an attempt to pick up voters from the other party. It's sad....
Before I post, I'd like to say I'm an independent voter. But wasn't it the Demoncratic president that submitted a budget that would raise taxes on the middle class? Just a thought..........
@cmfluteguy Really? In what respect? Because I oppose the democratic president? Shall we all get down on our knees and thank our lucky stars that we have him looking out for us? I think not.......
@kwkrnu72 It sounds to me like you're one of those in-deep-end-dents that voted Republican until 8 years of Bush profligacy and intentional incompetence embarrassed you into parting ways politically but not ideologically.
Firstly, Obama has never submitted a budget that raised taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less, just as he promised he would. Anyone who makes more than $250,000 is not middle-class. Pretty simple no?
If you can't afford to pay a lobbyists to pay republicans to represent your best interests then you're insignificant in the eyes of the republican party.
Leave any church which supports Republican antichrists. Get out from among them!
Duck4212 9 months ago
@Duck4212 I don't know many Democrats at church period. Its hard to be a bible believer when you're promoting abortion, homosexuality, a work-free social democracy and the banning of even mere mention of Christianity from the public square under the auspecises of "separation of church and state."
Now tell me, how does a "good Christian" LIKE some guy making fun of the gospel while trying to make a political point?
Selective Christianity, Duck4212, that's your MO.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten You have a warped right wing self righteous view of politics, my friend. You have everybody classified into a nice neat order , don't you. First , being a Democrat doesn't mean supporting abortion, homosexuality, and or any particular social issue. Second you don't know what I support or don't support. Third I hate hypocrites to pray to God to look like a caring people but all they really love is their money even over the lives of others.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 Well Mr. Liberal, I suggest you becareful of those with whom you take ideological comfort. I've known far too many liberals and far too many conservatives to know that liberals tend to be wary of if not outwardly hostile to Christians especially those who support the living of a Godly and sober life. Liberals are about morla "laissez faire" morality and true Christians or believers in any faith are an afront to them even without saying anything to them. Its like a living guilt trip.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten You make it sound bad to be a liberal or progressive. You don't even know what a liberal ( or a conservative) is because everybody has liberal and conservative tendencies and it's all relative to opinion anyway. People are individuals mr.Con and the sooner you understand that the better. You just want somebody convenient to blame for all the your and world's problems. Of course people like you are never at fault and are perfect in God's eyes. I don't buy what your selling.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 Not bad, just difficult to be liberla or progressive and claim to still be a Christaina when liberals and progressives are the ones shoving faith out of the public square, they're the ones more likely to say "I don't believe in God", the polls and numbers bear this out time and time again. You can't be a Christian by claiming to be a "good person" and forsaking the Lord at every turn.
You need to decide, are you of God or of those who claim that we don't need God. Your choice.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten I guess you now have seen a Bible believing born again Christian who doesn't buy into the myth that the Republicans are the party of God. I don't buy into any political view that claims rights to God or denies Jesus. I hate all hypocrites whose claims of Christianity don't match their deeds. When I asked Jesus into my life and repented of my sins years and years ago He never asked me if I was a liberal or a conservative, but then He probably didn't care.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 "He never asked me if I was a liberal or a conservative,"
Well brother, He probably wants to know whether or not you will abide by his teachings and values, and I've gotta say .... liberlas tend NOT to abide by the Lord's teaching when it come to sexual and a whole range of personal morality issues.
My only issue with liberal politics (and I shouldn't say that they are yours...) is that liberal positions on many issues just don't square up with what scrpiture says.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten You have a bad tendency to group people on the basis of your political affiliation. Lib or Con cannot be defined or if it is attempted it tends to be based upon an opinion which varies greatly among people. Among the far right you are probably a lib. So maybe you dont abide by the Lord? . Is this good reasoning? It's nonsense. People are individuals. His teachings? You mean those teachings that elect politicians who constantly lie and promote fear, oppress the poor.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 Well then why are YOU only attacking conservatives? Seems like you have it figured out as to who's who.
All I'm saying is that whn it comes to values, one side while not perfect (I agree with that) is better than the other.
Look if one side warts and all at least claims to support and or respect my faith, I'm going to side with them over the otherside who largely ignores or ridicule my faith. This probably explains why most Christains DO identify as conservative.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten I hate hypocrisy. I see conservatives endorse people like Beck and Limbaugh I have a hard time thinking of them as the Lord's people. They aren't. They clearly demonstrate themselves as bigotted, hateful and hypocrites and if they go to church on Sunday claiming Jesus is their God being justified by their politics then they're greatly deluded. They don't know Jesus. If I see Republicans helping the poor instead of seeking tax reductions, then maybe I'll change my opinion.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 Okay. lets say for arguments sake, Limbaugh and Beck are bigots (I don't share their view but...), bigotry is far less a sin than blasphemy, support for homosexuality abortion and atheism which I hear from Bill Maher, Kieth Olbermann and Michael Moore.
The guys who the political left support generally dismiss, pervert or HATE Christianity. You don't hear Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck taking stands that are funadamentally anti-Christian. In fact beck IS a professing Christian.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten The guys on the political right do the same.The only difference is they pretend to be justified by the Word of God. They listen to demons who feed off anger and allow hate and biggotry to get a foothold in their lives. They know that other's wouldn't accept what really goes on in their minds so they attempt to hide and justify it through a distorted false verson of Christianity. These people don't know the real Jesus any more than I know brain surgery. Jesus knows who are His.
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 The guys on the political left however outwardly reject God. So given a choice between he who rejects the Lord and he who claims to follow, him, I'm going to choose the latter.
The bigotry and the hate you talk about more often than not represents behaviours and lifetsyles often condemned in the very scriptures which you claim you follow, so what's dealio? Are you really a Christian or out here attacking those who claim to be a Christian which in and of itself is not Christian?
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten People who can't or won't love & respect others, even though these others may be hostile to us and even Jesus Himself, cannot serve Jesus period. This applies to all who claim Jesus inluding you and me and everybody else. Jesus's work is done no other way. We can attend church, become baptized and born again, repent, help the poor, believe the Word, worship and pray every day, no matter it's all in vain if we won't love who we consider to be the Tax Collector. It's all hypocrisy
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 Sure, and liberals are just as guilty of this as are conservatives. There's no "right-wing" monopoly on hostility. In fact your view of conservatives can be described as hostil as well "Mr. Pot." lol
MasterWooten 8 months ago
@MasterWooten Where does Jesus tell us, that by following and accepting HIm, we are to circle the wagons and condemn people we don't like along with their sins,if any? We reject sin, not people. We are to love others by treating them with the same consideration and respect as we would want from them. This applies to even those we consider to be dire enemies. We are to try show Jesus to them even if they spit in our face.That's God's will. They may not accept Jesus but at least we did His will
Duck4212 8 months ago
@Duck4212 " Where does Jesus tell us, that by following and accepting HIm, we are to circle the wagons and condemn people we don't like along with their sins,if any?"
You sound just like a conservative who condemns homosexaulaity whilst staing not to condemn the actual homosexual.
"We are to try show Jesus to them even if they spit in our face" I dunno how many time Jerry Falwell claimed to be doing this. I mean absent any proof that he hated any individual, you can't say otherwise.
MasterWooten 8 months ago
I spy political theatre...
MrGreeneggsnham 9 months ago
Vote for Bush? Never......quite possibly the dumbest man to ever hold office. Ideologically republican? No.....democrat? No...... I don't think the democrats, or the republicans either one, have had someone worth voting for in the last 20 years. Candidates have to cater to the traditional GOP, or the traditional Democratic voters, in order to get the nomination, then slide, ever so slightly toward the center, in an attempt to pick up voters from the other party. It's sad....
kwkrnu72 9 months ago
Before I post, I'd like to say I'm an independent voter. But wasn't it the Demoncratic president that submitted a budget that would raise taxes on the middle class? Just a thought..........
kwkrnu72 9 months ago
@kwkrnu72
Your utterance had no resemblance to a thought.
cmfluteguy 9 months ago
@cmfluteguy Really? In what respect? Because I oppose the democratic president? Shall we all get down on our knees and thank our lucky stars that we have him looking out for us? I think not.......
kwkrnu72 9 months ago
Two of the worst kinds of voters, are party line voters, and one issue voters. Both are responsible for destroying this country.
kwkrnu72 9 months ago
@kwkrnu72 It sounds to me like you're one of those in-deep-end-dents that voted Republican until 8 years of Bush profligacy and intentional incompetence embarrassed you into parting ways politically but not ideologically.
Firstly, Obama has never submitted a budget that raised taxes on anyone making $250,000 or less, just as he promised he would. Anyone who makes more than $250,000 is not middle-class. Pretty simple no?
gnomechomskylives 9 months ago
Excellent analysis of Ryan's Wrecking-America Plan. Way to go!
MsGingergingercat 9 months ago
This is a good one. I do love the symmatry, especially since the RepubliCON supporters tend to also be end-timers.
lawilson200 9 months ago
If you can't afford to pay a lobbyists to pay republicans to represent your best interests then you're insignificant in the eyes of the republican party.
Phalinex 9 months ago
Welcome to the Republican Party - leave your heart at the door.
demmmmm1 9 months ago 9
Haha nice analogy indeed.... *sigh*
diotecktec2 9 months ago
The republicans are working for the raptured. They don't give a shit about the left behind.
voyzovrezon 9 months ago 10
nice
myriadcorp 9 months ago
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liberals need to be educated.
force3264 9 months ago
@force3264 fuck you
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