I went to Scotland once. It rained non-stop & I my toes were frostbitten. The people are stoney-faced and drunken and continually curse the English. The only food is haggis which is being hunted to extinction. Everyone is either obese or has MS. I was attacked by a swarm of midges & was thrown out of a pub for saying the Loch Ness Monster did't exist. I couldn't sleep at night due to the non-stop bagpiping. I am never going back.
just reading up on his back ground.... he's not really very scottish at all......... northern england is mentioned as a birth place ........and obviously.....the norman connection
@TheTwollocks Then again the Scottish aren't "Scottish", they are Irish. Look up the Scotae and their immigration/Invasion from northern Ireland to Fortriu(Kingdom of Picts). In the middle ages the lowlands were anglo-saxon with norman rulers and the highlands were scottish.
robert the bruce .......a french man......as was mary queen of scots........and bonnie prince charlie.......if they do make a film of him.....they should give him a french accent....make it historically correct
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robert the bruce was infact gay he would often parade around in high heels and wearing a mankini leap upon the english soldiers shouting ahhheeebamunty sloptwaddle yi banger tool roughly translated as ,we scotts love to take it up the ass please be rough with us and invade us and dominate us cos we r ur bitches . to which the English would reply montradlybot slummdangle flapmungle fuckdescott ( translated ) ok me old mate bend over and lets play hide the sausage soon after the union was born
Robert the Bruce's armorer was my ancestor, somewhere in our family is an area of forest given to him by the bruce, hopefully it comes to me someday :)
Something that always annoyed me about Braveheart, other than its many more blatant historical inaccuracies is the way that Robert the Bruce is portrayed as somewhat weak. While it is important to acknowledge his procrastination at many points, the man represented in Braveheart is a far cry from the man who would become Scotland's greatest King. You cannot imagine the Braveheart Robert the Bruce coolly bringing down Henry de Bohun with his battle-axe.
Read Nigel Tranter book about Robert the Bruce, Wallace was a huge influence on him & with his good friend James "the black" Douglas took back there lands & there god given right to be free. from the english thieves, in guerilla warfare (secret war) against the best army in christendom, you have to admire the man, he is braveheart.
Gibson really had his head up his ass, historically, when he made the rediculous Scotsploitation "Braveheart" horseshit (a bunch of woodstock hippies dancing 'round a maypole and taking turns throwing rocks at each others heads when the the peodophilic English come bursting in, to gang-bang the new bride) - The Bruce is the 'Braveheart' of Scots history; After he died, the Army carried his preserved heart in a metal box into battle for morale and good luck.
@MultipleScrotum i think that mel gibson should act but Ridley scot is a very good director, he diected black hawk down and Kingdom of heaven, very epic war movies
@MateusVIII Oh Ridley is good, but I think Gibson is a better director, particularly for movies that need brutality and realistic visuals. Braveheart, Apocalypto, and The Passion are amazing, and about the most epic things I've witnessed. Braveheart is the ultimate epic.
@HuwGeeRection Your comment is retarded. You say he has anti semitism towards blacks, yet blacks aren't semites.
He's not dumb at all, proof is found in his genius works of direction and acting. Also, watch his interviews, he's obviously a smart and thoughtful man.
Braveheart is indeed an amazing movie. Any historical inacuracy was in the script(wich Mel did NOT write), and the directing played better for scenematic whimsy. EVERY movie he's directed was awesome.
Robert the bruce scene at the end of Braveheart is really insiring i love it ...when he charges the English
it really sickened me though when at stirling those bastard cowards Mornea and Loughlin betrayd Wallace . its because of fucks like that it took us so long to kick the English out of here too
yeh i despise longshanks however there is no denying he was extremely skilled in military tactics. wish they would make a bruce movie hes a legend. smart cunning sn ruthless the way he took scotland bk peice by peice
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His name was Robert the Bruce. There was no such name as de Bruce. The Norman French pronunciation was Robert de Brus or Robert de Bruys). Get yer facts right. And anyway Edward was a tosser.
Chill out dude. Educated yes. Educated enough to point out you can not be both. You are either a Lowlander or a tcheuchter (correct spelling by the way-gives smug grin). I think we know who is the ragamuffin here mate. It's ok I won't tell your seceret is safe.
I am chilled to use the vernacular..I did not describe your hero as a "Tosser"..also I use the archaic forms...but I'm bored with this..Surely a lowlander is a sassanach ?
@scotland638 Edward Longshanks got respect as a Warror leader of men from Scots as dose the English respect Bruces Warror style.These are the men who lead from the front.
@railch Given that the Bruce family came from Normandy in the 11th century as the Scottish King tried to Anglicize the country, his family name was originally the French, his father is certainly referred to that way, however as with in England during this period the Norman-French dominated aristocracy was being replaced. In England it was only with the 2nd phase of the hundred year war around the time of Henry V that the Aristocracy began to speak English.
they should make the same herioc hollywood picutere about the flemish people in belgium. They where also a peasant army oppressed by the french who killed them all in 1302
@JYoung135 aye! i second that! it wud be great...not much on Scottish history or heroes. But how many movies are on that crazy bitch Queen Elizabeth I? What a shame...
@JYoung135 its already been made, though its a local sctish movie and low budget. Ive been trying to find it for years but it seems its hard to get. I just hope mell gibson doesnt decide to make his own version the walllas one, though entertaining, was full of shit; the dude would never have worn a kilt in his life, if only they had been historically acurate it would have been the best movie ever
@JYoung135 Agreed, although William Wallace was a great hero to Scotland,
King Robert I aparantly was an even greater one, and did even more for Scotland,
however since Braveheart came out, Robert the Bruce has been overshadowed somewhat by interest in Walliam Wallace soaring over Robert I, before Braveheart, King Robert was viewed alot more with admiration than Wallace, but non the less, they are both great.
@crazaygirlie funny enough same here, also a good friend of mine of 14 years was named after him because hes supposed to be related to him as well which would mean we are all linked to the house of stewart. so we would be something like cousins 25 times removed
my teacher from summer school was a descendant from robert the bruce's lineage.. i saw many pictures in his house and heard many ancient stories from his grandfather (which he heard from his grandfather) i participated in scottish night with his family..
the interesting thing is.. Im a "laz" from turkey.. their bagpipes and our "tulum" is nearly identical.. there are no historical connection between scottish and laz but this is really interesting..
If only Scotland and Ireland had formed an allience with eachother against the Brittish invaders, all those centuries ago, both of our countries would have been a lot better off.
@SinnFein4ever Hugh McDermott the great Scottish poet and Nationalist once stated " If we could only blend the fire of the Irish with the steel of the Scots we could have a nation to rule the world" The wording here is taken from memory so is not verbatim but near enough,and true.
I love the idea of a sequel to this movie.There is so much more to be told.I am an American of both Scot&Anglican descent.When I hear bagpipes,the hair on my back stands on end.I guess I have more scot eh!? I ma sept related to the Frasier clan near Loch Ness.Anyone else out there a Frasier???
Wallace was born in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, and as an Ayrshire man I was proud to serve in the British Armed Forces...Britain will always be stronger when Scotland and England are a union.
i think evel´n half read. forget point. in ireland you are family even nabour.. fredom . sry bd english .. drunken last bruce from finland. farwell and fair winds ............ my irland lol
thekelpielives - I agree with you. Braveheart was typical Hollywood entertainment. The movie was factually incorrect in many ways. Isabella of France, was not the quiet, charming woman in the film. She was known as the 'She Wolf of France', and planned wars against Scotland with her son, Edward III (who was not sired by Wallace). Isabella and Edward II were married at Boulogne-sur-Mer on 25 January 1308, AFTER Edward I died (1307). The real history is much more interesting!
The Bruce and Wallace had completely opposite agendas. Wallace rose up in support of King John Balliol. Bruce on the other hand contested Balliol's claim to thrown. It was only after many years and much blood shed that Bruce managed to get the nobles on side in some cases with much reluctance. This romantic image of a simple fight between Scotland and England and of Bruce picking up the torch after the death of Wallace is nonsense. Scotland was a country at war with itself. Bruce had ambitions.
Robert the Bruce was most certainly "around" during the period of the revolts led by Wallace and Andrew de Moray but you are right about Wallace and the French princess. That meeting could never have taken place.
My Gramma did it she is in to family history same with me but I don't know how to went back that many years. I also found out that I'm not just scottish I'm also swiss and Irish. My other Gramma's Mom is Irish.
Ur not swiss , scottish, or irish, you are from canada. You mite have european ancestery but that doesnt make you from they countries. Same goes for the americans that think they are irish or italian just because they have irish or italian surnames. To be from a country you must be born and bred there.
You can say what every you want but my Mom's Gramma is Irish and on both side of my family we are related to Robert and my last name is a swiss name you can see how we used to spell it on a army nife, wenger
None of you know if you are related to Bruce - the family line is so blurred by clan and family name changes, so to say you are related or linked to any of his daughters is nonsense. How do I know? I'm a Scot living in Edinburgh and it's my job to know this stuff.
Bullshit. I'm Scottish (as in genuinely, not a generic American white guy trying to find his "roots") and I know that pretty much the only way to trace Scottish family history is through Parish records. Parish records don't go back anywhere close to the era of Robert the Bruce.
Wow the ole Scottish English hatred still lives on. One point I think a lot of people may have missed, or perhaps just neglected to mention was that Bruce was most likely quite pissed at king Edward for bypassing his old man for the Scottish crown, but since Balliol was a weakling, he served Edward's purposes much better. Also wasn't Bruce half Gael? Though a Lowlander (there were Gaels in the Lowlands at some point).
One more thing, I saw this clip while looking up Scottish history, and was intrigued since I never heard of this film, but really Braveheart was shit, not only the inaccuracy of how the battle of Stirling was presented (should have been a bridge there) to no credit being given to Andrew Moray (wasn't even in the film?)though I've read that some believe he was the architect of that victory,but hey I guess that's what happens when a Wallace writes the screenplay.anyway cheers folks slainte mhath!
True enough, about not fitting everything in, but Moray wasn't just some minor guy, he was leading a seperate rebellion, he was every bit as important as Wallace. How many major battles did Wallace win after Stirling? Also if as portrayed in the movie that is how the battle of Stirling bridge went down then the Scots would have been utterly massacred. They didn't have the arms,discipline or numbers to face the English head on, even in the Schiltron formation.
At last somebody who knows their history. Braveheart done a grave di-service to moray and the bruce. The bruce was very strong willed man, great fighter and better military leader than wallace. Aso as you say moray was every bit as important in the early years of the struggle as wallace was. He seems to be almost forgotten by history which is a great shame.
In the 13th-14th century Gaelic was the language and predominant culture of the whole of Scotland and English was the language of the Burghs, so there would have been Gaels in Lowland Scotland. Bruce was half Gaelic from the maternal side. Braveheart was a fairytail with a bit of truth in it. Wallace was a literate minor knight who'd spent time in France, for example, not a shag haired, face painted savage.
The Bruce was there at the battle of falkirk with the black douglas he rode into the batte to get wallace out who had been hit with arrow in the neck his second in command murray was dead scots we being slughtered by welsh bowman, wallace would not leave the field when the bruce grabbed him and said 'look aboot ye min'
The history books dispute strongly the notion that bruce was at the battle of falkirk. You have got to remember that wallace wanted balliol restored as king an bruce was in direct challange to balliols claim to the throne so its very doughtfull that the bruce wouldve risked his life to save wallace. Also moray was killed at the battle of stirling bridge so he couldnt have been at falkirk.
inaccurate but good film. My favorite character was not wallace but Robert the Bruce. I felt like i could connect to him. I am a follower but yearn to be a leader like Wallace and the Bruce
I agree with that, i thought Robert the Bruce was the only 'human' character of the main cast. Compare him with the absurd cartoon figures of Wallace and Edward I.
Braveheart is crap, so many historacal errors. Wallace was a lowlander not a highlander yet that is the way he is portrayed in the movie.Bruce wasnt there at the battle of falkirk or when wallace was captured by the english.
He was a medieval lord, all his motivations were driven by the thirst for more power. But he was a great rider and melee fighter. His "duel" with de Bohun is famous.
What happened to the so called making of this film. Like many I deduced from my reading of history that Bruce was a traitor who wanted to be King for personal glory, not for Scotland. Would like to see how Hollywood portrayed him in a film about his life and times.
Like many "noble" lords in those times he switched allegiance often. However, what goes unrecognised is the fact that once he commited himself fully to attain the throne/freedom then there was no turning back. Remember his wife and daughter had been held captive and at least three of his brothers were killed. Despite all odds he achieved what very few Scots Kings had been able to do, which was to bring England to a settlement favourable to Scotland.
True. He probably wasn't different from other lords of that time, but I can't help feeling he kinda betrayed Wallace.
Having said that I know his sister, correct me if I'm wrong, was held prisoner in a cage in a castle, that's not even the equivalent of a police cell, but a cage.
Thistle, good points, friend, maybe some I'd never considered. I look for your comments.
The 'betrayal' of Wallace thingy I had never really heard of until Braveheart came out. As I understand it the two had never met. Wallace, and I may be wrong here, fought as a Guardian of Scotland on behalf of John Balliol (Toom Tabard) the deposed King and Bruce and Comyn had rival, albeit weaker, claims to the throne. So, as far as my limited knowledge goes, no betrayal could have taken place because both men fought for rival families and as we know that meant more to nobles than country.contd
Wallace obviously still saw Balliol as King. Wallace wasn't a great landowner like Bruce and others so he didn't have to worry about lands in England being confiscated if he fought on one side.
It is known that Bruce was on friendly terms with Edward, I think that's where the stories about his fighting on the English side come from. He had lands in England so had to be careful.
contd. I just can't help but admire a man that sticks his neck out. Yes getting the crown meant everything to Bruce but at the end of the day, he was smart enough to know that gaining the crown only came with rebellion and risking everything in the process. Remember that his early campaigns were a disaster and he could have slipped into obscurity but showed the resolve required to lead the country. I only wish he had thrown his lot in with Wallace but hey, 'whits fur ye wil no gang by ye' eh?
but it was bruce who saw through the independance of scotland so maybe some of what you read about the history of his manipulative ways was alot more false than true but it is true that the bruce had an affinity to diplomacy that wallace could never see so they could never meet eye to eye on so many things
but in the end it was the passion for what wallace did that made him strive for the indpendance of scotland through battle till the english gave up, their homeland armies were exhausted.
even after wallace was executed bruce suffered a couple defeats on the feild always retreating to recoup and i cant discredit him for that tactical mind
the only reason he led the battle against the british was because he saw things go in his favor after the wake of chaos wallace left, he basically used him like a tool
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I went to Scotland once. It rained non-stop & I my toes were frostbitten. The people are stoney-faced and drunken and continually curse the English. The only food is haggis which is being hunted to extinction. Everyone is either obese or has MS. I was attacked by a swarm of midges & was thrown out of a pub for saying the Loch Ness Monster did't exist. I couldn't sleep at night due to the non-stop bagpiping. I am never going back.
karezza6 2 weeks ago
Robert the Bruce was the ancestor of lord Alfred DOulglas, who had a relationship with Oscar Wilde (or Sholto Du-glass)
poshnile 2 months ago
should really add into the description that this is a fan made piece of fiction.
deusduce2 3 months ago
I love how everyone comments on the inaccuracy of a movie rather than commenting on how freaking good this video is :P
Well done Parallelproductions! Very well put together! (:
Ecofreak96 3 months ago
just reading up on his back ground.... he's not really very scottish at all......... northern england is mentioned as a birth place ........and obviously.....the norman connection
TheTwollocks 4 months ago
@TheTwollocks Then again the Scottish aren't "Scottish", they are Irish. Look up the Scotae and their immigration/Invasion from northern Ireland to Fortriu(Kingdom of Picts). In the middle ages the lowlands were anglo-saxon with norman rulers and the highlands were scottish.
Lavard14 1 month ago
@TheTwollocks My fault. Not scotae, but Scoti.
Lavard14 1 month ago
robert the bruce .......a french man......as was mary queen of scots........and bonnie prince charlie.......if they do make a film of him.....they should give him a french accent....make it historically correct
TheTwollocks 4 months ago
billsponge avabito sootinmiboot anacannagetit oot!!u little tosser fukoff bak to bein bummed by ur grand lodge cos i bet theyve done rituals on u manytimes over,do u still get locked in the cellar if ur anaughty boy billy?!does ur momy n daddy freemason conveyors still finger ur podge n then m ake u lickit?!sick fuking freak go back to ur kabbalh readings u sikfuk
deanevil 5 months ago
you should read the bruce trilogey by nigel tranter
dave2pac 5 months ago
robert the bruce was infact gay he would often parade around in high heels and wearing a mankini leap upon the english soldiers shouting ahhheeebamunty sloptwaddle yi banger tool roughly translated as ,we scotts love to take it up the ass please be rough with us and invade us and dominate us cos we r ur bitches . to which the English would reply montradlybot slummdangle flapmungle fuckdescott ( translated ) ok me old mate bend over and lets play hide the sausage soon after the union was born
billysponge1 6 months ago
my ancestor sir james douglas carried his heart on crusade after he died
rubick 9 months ago 2
@rubick ... then buried in a casket in Melrose Abbey... I was there and I'll never forget this feeling......
entagg 7 months ago
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MrBruceNichols 10 months ago
Glad to be a relative to him
gokukevind 10 months ago
Robert the Bruce's armorer was my ancestor, somewhere in our family is an area of forest given to him by the bruce, hopefully it comes to me someday :)
moonpencil123 11 months ago
Something that always annoyed me about Braveheart, other than its many more blatant historical inaccuracies is the way that Robert the Bruce is portrayed as somewhat weak. While it is important to acknowledge his procrastination at many points, the man represented in Braveheart is a far cry from the man who would become Scotland's greatest King. You cannot imagine the Braveheart Robert the Bruce coolly bringing down Henry de Bohun with his battle-axe.
DukeofWellington91 11 months ago 2
Read Nigel Tranter book about Robert the Bruce, Wallace was a huge influence on him & with his good friend James "the black" Douglas took back there lands & there god given right to be free. from the english thieves, in guerilla warfare (secret war) against the best army in christendom, you have to admire the man, he is braveheart.
jaldorian 1 year ago
Robert The Bruce was on my family tree, very proud of it too...
RidirichdFlann 1 year ago
.....not Wallace.
gyrofoam1 1 year ago
Gibson really had his head up his ass, historically, when he made the rediculous Scotsploitation "Braveheart" horseshit (a bunch of woodstock hippies dancing 'round a maypole and taking turns throwing rocks at each others heads when the the peodophilic English come bursting in, to gang-bang the new bride) - The Bruce is the 'Braveheart' of Scots history; After he died, the Army carried his preserved heart in a metal box into battle for morale and good luck.
gyrofoam1 1 year ago
I am doing historical research for a rock opera (musical?) i intend to write about King Robert The Bruce.
67Stu 1 year ago
There should be a good Robert the Bruce film, and Gerrard Butler should play the Bruce, would be good
jk28416 1 year ago 5
@jk28416 and Ridley Scot should direct it
MateusVIII 1 year ago
@MateusVIII Mel Gibson should direct it.
MultipleScrotum 1 year ago
@MultipleScrotum i think that mel gibson should act but Ridley scot is a very good director, he diected black hawk down and Kingdom of heaven, very epic war movies
MateusVIII 1 year ago
@MateusVIII Oh Ridley is good, but I think Gibson is a better director, particularly for movies that need brutality and realistic visuals. Braveheart, Apocalypto, and The Passion are amazing, and about the most epic things I've witnessed. Braveheart is the ultimate epic.
MultipleScrotum 1 year ago
@MultipleScrotum But Mel Gibson has gone mad now, probably due to his drinking !
HuwGeeRection 1 year ago
@HuwGeeRection Madness and genius go together. All the greatest artists over the years have been a good deal mad.
MultipleScrotum 1 year ago
@MultipleScrotum
Mel Gibson is a racist fundamentalist christian.
He is amongst the dumbest most arrogant people in the world.
The only good movie he ever directed was braveheart, which was historically incorrect !
Mel Gibson's anti semitism towards jewish people and blacks makes him a bad person !
Not a very nice man ! Complete lunatic !
HuwGeeRection 1 year ago
@HuwGeeRection Your comment is retarded. You say he has anti semitism towards blacks, yet blacks aren't semites.
He's not dumb at all, proof is found in his genius works of direction and acting. Also, watch his interviews, he's obviously a smart and thoughtful man.
Braveheart is indeed an amazing movie. Any historical inacuracy was in the script(wich Mel did NOT write), and the directing played better for scenematic whimsy. EVERY movie he's directed was awesome.
You are anti Christian.
MultipleScrotum 1 year ago
There was a film made. It was called The Bruce. Oliver Reed, Brian Blessed and Michael Van Wijk (Wolfman from Gladiators) were in it. It was crap.
titoortiz1983 1 year ago
summer 2007??? psyche!!!
kg062007 1 year ago
i checked my family tree and it tyrns out im related to him!!!!
chainsawman10 1 year ago
@chainsawman10 obvious troll is obvious.
TheNaZeus 1 year ago
Robert the bruce scene at the end of Braveheart is really insiring i love it ...when he charges the English
it really sickened me though when at stirling those bastard cowards Mornea and Loughlin betrayd Wallace . its because of fucks like that it took us so long to kick the English out of here too
Alba gu brath
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EIREESPANA 1 year ago
@EIREESPANA That never really happened , at Falkirk you mean.
Braveheart represents absolutley nothing from the true story of Wallace..
colotron 1 year ago
@colotron Sorry yes i meant Falkirk ... is the film really that far from truth ?? is any aof it factual??
EIREESPANA 1 year ago
@EIREESPANA Yes its obviously based on real events , but its so innacurate.
The Battle of Striling Bridge , the key feature of the battle which allowed to Scots to win , the bridge , was not present in the movie.
The cavalry at Falkirk DID flee but they fought whereas in the movie they fled without fighting.
Wallace was in fact , a much nobler , stronger , more passionate hero than he is depicted in the movie.
The true story is so much more entertaining.
colotron 1 year ago
@EIREESPANA The English were not your real enemy
Scotland's nobles were their OWN worse enemy, And the movie brave heart as no historical accuracy to it whatsoever
TheWiseOldLion 1 year ago
I heard they made a movie in Scotland in 1995 called "The Bruce." By most accounts it was a truly awful movie.
YesWeCantaloupe 1 year ago
I would love to see this movie made!!!......One of the best scenes in Braveheart is when the Bruce charges at the end!! ALBA GU BRATH!
TheTartanedPatriot 1 year ago
robert the bruce was so much cooler then stupid william wallace.
300warrior300 1 year ago
They really fucking should make a movie about him, that would be rather fuckin epic tbh.
MrMetalheart10 1 year ago
@MrMetalheart10 I heard they made a movie in Scotland before Braveheart in 1995 called "The Bruce." By most accounts it was a truly awful movie.
YesWeCantaloupe 1 year ago
Me too :D
xTashaKateWoodx 1 year ago
My last name is Bruce. He is one of my ancestors.
brucechris1 1 year ago
yeh i despise longshanks however there is no denying he was extremely skilled in military tactics. wish they would make a bruce movie hes a legend. smart cunning sn ruthless the way he took scotland bk peice by peice
dshishod 1 year ago
i hate how they made him look like a coward in braveheart he was a warrior and one of (if not the best) kings scotland ever had
Antzcceltic1 1 year ago
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TheophanotheAspie 1 year ago
If only we had his like now!
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mamyjene11 1 year ago
Robert The Bruce can't be as big a wimp as He seemed on Braveheart! I think the movie did a poor job of portraying Him.
BigMDS67 1 year ago
He is The Bruce... The King... The Lion
MaeseMordeckay 1 year ago 5
There is a movie about Robert the Bruce. The Bruce made in 1996
questionablekristina 1 year ago
my ancester was bruce's most trusted officer :D
Paterson212 1 year ago
@Paterson212 I am related to Robert the Bruce, thats cool that we know our Ancestry.
Offensivetackle65 1 year ago
The Bruces were an Anglo-Norman family, from Yorkshire, where the senior line of the family still lived in King Robert I's time.
Enebanrot 1 year ago
inspired by wallace, wallace for king , wallace was the true king of scotts, he was the the one that never surrendered to longsghanks
wallace king of scotts
AwsomWarrior 1 year ago
@AwsomWarrior
wallace was English.
hetrodoxly 1 year ago
ANGUS!!!
Brenda2OOO 1 year ago 2
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Even if a real movie was coming out, who would want to see that scumbag? I sure wouldn't. Nice trailer though. Just strange subject.
PalaceOfExile 1 year ago
William Wallace is Scotland's greatest hero.
Robert Bruce is Scotland's greatest king.
The story of Bruce is even more inspiring
than that of Wallace.
We love them both.
Maxwell (14)
14maximum 1 year ago 4
YYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHhhh I was named after this guy
carnigourousplotting 1 year ago
@14maximum The Bruces were an Anglo-Norman family, from Yorkshire, where the senior line of the family still lived in King Robert I's time.
Enebanrot 1 year ago
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I hate to pint this out but his name was de Bruce...French I think..
Edward the hammer Rules !!
147Brownbear 2 years ago
@147Brownbear
His name was Robert the Bruce. There was no such name as de Bruce. The Norman French pronunciation was Robert de Brus or Robert de Bruys). Get yer facts right. And anyway Edward was a tosser.
railch 2 years ago 18
Typical articulate educated cheuchter...lowlander that is...Why not move to Nova Scotia with all of the other ragamuffin Macdonalds !!
147Brownbear 2 years ago
Chill out dude. Educated yes. Educated enough to point out you can not be both. You are either a Lowlander or a tcheuchter (correct spelling by the way-gives smug grin). I think we know who is the ragamuffin here mate. It's ok I won't tell your seceret is safe.
railch 2 years ago
I am chilled to use the vernacular..I did not describe your hero as a "Tosser"..also I use the archaic forms...but I'm bored with this..Surely a lowlander is a sassanach ?
147Brownbear 2 years ago
@railch supposedly my scottish ancestor was great friends with robert the bruce, i think his name was Kirk Patrick or something.
Mrdakkadakka 1 year ago
@railch I agree Edward Longshanks was a tosser,unfortunately for Scotland he was also a great military leader.
scotland638 1 year ago
@scotland638 Edward Longshanks got respect as a Warror leader of men from Scots as dose the English respect Bruces Warror style.These are the men who lead from the front.
YARROWS 1 year ago
@railch I think his father was called Robert de Bruce, It's like Andrew Murray,,his dad second name was Moray.
GeetarGuy101 1 year ago
@railch Given that the Bruce family came from Normandy in the 11th century as the Scottish King tried to Anglicize the country, his family name was originally the French, his father is certainly referred to that way, however as with in England during this period the Norman-French dominated aristocracy was being replaced. In England it was only with the 2nd phase of the hundred year war around the time of Henry V that the Aristocracy began to speak English.
DukeofWellington91 11 months ago
they should make the same herioc hollywood picutere about the flemish people in belgium. They where also a peasant army oppressed by the french who killed them all in 1302
eyederrick 2 years ago 3
better turn this into a film
RabEhBruce 2 years ago
I hope someone actually does make a film about Robert the Bruce though.
JYoung135 2 years ago 31
@JYoung135 aye! i second that! it wud be great...not much on Scottish history or heroes. But how many movies are on that crazy bitch Queen Elizabeth I? What a shame...
kuhleskind 2 years ago
@JYoung135 its already been made, though its a local sctish movie and low budget. Ive been trying to find it for years but it seems its hard to get. I just hope mell gibson doesnt decide to make his own version the walllas one, though entertaining, was full of shit; the dude would never have worn a kilt in his life, if only they had been historically acurate it would have been the best movie ever
foiran 1 year ago
@JYoung135 Been done already. Called "The Bruce" made in 1996
knubbelkeks69 1 year ago
@JYoung135 Agreed, although William Wallace was a great hero to Scotland,
King Robert I aparantly was an even greater one, and did even more for Scotland,
however since Braveheart came out, Robert the Bruce has been overshadowed somewhat by interest in Walliam Wallace soaring over Robert I, before Braveheart, King Robert was viewed alot more with admiration than Wallace, but non the less, they are both great.
GLORD99092 1 year ago
@JYoung135 There actually is a 1996 Movie called "The Bruce"
knubbelkeks69 1 year ago
@JYoung135 They did...in 96...called The Bruce lmao
badgerfecker 11 months ago
@JYoung135 The Bruce German Titel Kampf für die Freiheit Schottlands whit Olvier Reed frome 1996
choppolotti 9 months ago
@JYoung135 The Bruce - filmed in 1996
WickedFetus 5 months ago
@JYoung135 same here it would be epic!
Ichliebemusikundybd 3 months ago
No such film of Bruce has been made.
pduffy4 2 years ago
I'm actually related to this guy, he's pretty interesting too.
crazaygirlie 2 years ago
you mean the actor or the actual king?..
baerin18 1 year ago
@crazaygirlie funny enough same here, also a good friend of mine of 14 years was named after him because hes supposed to be related to him as well which would mean we are all linked to the house of stewart. so we would be something like cousins 25 times removed
Necrodermis 1 year ago
what a fail
HateCrewDeathroll90 2 years ago
my teacher from summer school was a descendant from robert the bruce's lineage.. i saw many pictures in his house and heard many ancient stories from his grandfather (which he heard from his grandfather) i participated in scottish night with his family..
the interesting thing is.. Im a "laz" from turkey.. their bagpipes and our "tulum" is nearly identical.. there are no historical connection between scottish and laz but this is really interesting..
jokeyr 2 years ago
If only Scotland and Ireland had formed an allience with eachother against the Brittish invaders, all those centuries ago, both of our countries would have been a lot better off.
SinnFein4ever 2 years ago 4
@SinnFein4ever i'm with u on that one but robert the bruces brother did go over to ireland to fight the english but came back when bruce was ill.
gaz1895 2 years ago
He died in Ireland,if I recall correctly from what I've read ,he was outnumbered and just charged right into the enemy ,dying fighting.
Hengest33 2 years ago
@SinnFein4ever Hugh McDermott the great Scottish poet and Nationalist once stated " If we could only blend the fire of the Irish with the steel of the Scots we could have a nation to rule the world" The wording here is taken from memory so is not verbatim but near enough,and true.
johnnytheglesgabhoy 1 year ago
awe inspiring scotland what a nation we are c mon the scots be proud of our ancestors real scots
1804198125061979 2 years ago 4
rouquinho2 it means scotland for evernice vid :D
2003phil 2 years ago
bollocks!! then why was the famous book of kells writen on a scottish island then??
The Irish druids came to scotland to get taught from the Scottish Culdees (druids)
BigWoodyAllen 2 years ago
@SirTheistDRF Pfft. That's loser talk. Sometimes you have to risk morality for the sake of power.
AnotheroftheRabble 2 years ago
It's Scottish for Scotland forever!
segano1 2 years ago
I am the decendent of Robert The Bruce
greywolfteeth 2 years ago
@greywolfteeth Really? The only one? Who'da thunk.
AnotheroftheRabble 2 years ago
heeyyy look Scots....ARCHERS KNOCK! XD jk
LordDagonn 2 years ago
I love the idea of a sequel to this movie.There is so much more to be told.I am an American of both Scot&Anglican descent.When I hear bagpipes,the hair on my back stands on end.I guess I have more scot eh!? I ma sept related to the Frasier clan near Loch Ness.Anyone else out there a Frasier???
apollo12lmp 2 years ago
Wallace was born in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, and as an Ayrshire man I was proud to serve in the British Armed Forces...Britain will always be stronger when Scotland and England are a union.
CallingAllStations12 2 years ago
Hmm I know I'm related to robert the bruce anyway.. I'm Swedish, Finnish and Scottish;)
MliLi87 2 years ago
I'm related to robert the bruce :) lol
XxEmoBloodFairyxX 2 years ago
Really? No way, so am i.
ColdWhiteSnow 2 years ago
Haha so am I;)
MliLi87 2 years ago
am related to robert the bruce
Everblue000 2 years ago
If you want to know if you are a decendent of him look your name up in the decendents of john kilgore which was a decendent of robert the bruce
greywolfteeth 2 years ago
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greywolfteeth 2 years ago
Jock woofta
tondaloona2009 2 years ago
hi (ersten mein englsich ist net gut trumm deutsch ^^)
2 weist einer wo ich noch den film herige suche den shcon seit jahren habe ihn nur ein mal gesehen und nicht mehr hoffe einer kann mir helfen
NinjaBarde 2 years ago
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thestrongtiger82 2 years ago
Well if it's made by the same folks who did Braveheart then you, I ,and more will be sadly disappointed.
Hengest33 2 years ago
If it's made by Mel Gibson, we definitely will be.
thestrongtiger82 2 years ago
i think evel´n half read. forget point. in ireland you are family even nabour.. fredom . sry bd english .. drunken last bruce from finland. farwell and fair winds ............ my irland lol
rainrai 2 years ago
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greywolfteeth 2 years ago
that dose'nt make you from THEY COUNTRY. WHY DON'T YOU LEARN PROPER GRAMMER. THEIR ARE NO WHITE PEOPLE THAT ARE"NATIVE" TO THE NEW WORLD.
robertthebrusier 2 years ago
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Robert the bruce was a evil man
he killed the greater contender for the crown who was linked closer to the last king of scotland.
he burnt half of scotland when he crowned himself king at scone.
and he fought for the english whilst telling the scots what to do!
Comyn should of been king, if only he wasnt murdered by the bruce.
jupiterlemon 2 years ago
thekelpielives - I agree with you. Braveheart was typical Hollywood entertainment. The movie was factually incorrect in many ways. Isabella of France, was not the quiet, charming woman in the film. She was known as the 'She Wolf of France', and planned wars against Scotland with her son, Edward III (who was not sired by Wallace). Isabella and Edward II were married at Boulogne-sur-Mer on 25 January 1308, AFTER Edward I died (1307). The real history is much more interesting!
bgibb101 2 years ago
The Bruce and Wallace had completely opposite agendas. Wallace rose up in support of King John Balliol. Bruce on the other hand contested Balliol's claim to thrown. It was only after many years and much blood shed that Bruce managed to get the nobles on side in some cases with much reluctance. This romantic image of a simple fight between Scotland and England and of Bruce picking up the torch after the death of Wallace is nonsense. Scotland was a country at war with itself. Bruce had ambitions.
thekelpielives 2 years ago
I meant throne not thrown.... in case anyone is wondering what the hell I'm on about.
thekelpielives 2 years ago
Big time. Though I think he was the strongest king Scotland ever had.
Hengest33 2 years ago
im actually in king robert the bruces bloodline, he goes straight up in my family tree
Slyteradon 2 years ago
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greywolfteeth 2 years ago
Lol stupid americans fucking history up! Robert the Bruce wasnt about when wallace rised....
and wallace didnt meet a french princess either..
Braveheart is a awesome movie but its historically inncorrect.
kaleedeo 2 years ago 2
Robert the Bruce was most certainly "around" during the period of the revolts led by Wallace and Andrew de Moray but you are right about Wallace and the French princess. That meeting could never have taken place.
thekelpielives 2 years ago
Well you can say what ever you want but I beleave my Gramma. She did a history book on her side and we have a pic of Robert's daughter and more.
grampsturkey 2 years ago
my gramma did family history all the way back to the 1800's. my gramma was born in 1924 and my grampa was born in 1916
grampsturkey 2 years ago
My Gramma did it she is in to family history same with me but I don't know how to went back that many years. I also found out that I'm not just scottish I'm also swiss and Irish. My other Gramma's Mom is Irish.
grampsturkey 2 years ago
Ur not swiss , scottish, or irish, you are from canada. You mite have european ancestery but that doesnt make you from they countries. Same goes for the americans that think they are irish or italian just because they have irish or italian surnames. To be from a country you must be born and bred there.
darrenn438 2 years ago
You can say what every you want but my Mom's Gramma is Irish and on both side of my family we are related to Robert and my last name is a swiss name you can see how we used to spell it on a army nife, wenger
grampsturkey 2 years ago
I think this movie is good just because I'm related to Robert the Bruce in my family history
grampsturkey 3 years ago
hah me too! no joke
kodyak77 3 years ago
how many family members will i find being related to him. i found so person so fare haha
grampsturkey 3 years ago
I wonder how many people we could be relted to. his doughter married someone in my family I think the lastname is Black?
grampsturkey 3 years ago
How our you related to Robert the Bruce?Can you even trace your ancestors that far.Cause I would like to do that myself.
messanicgentile 2 years ago
None of you know if you are related to Bruce - the family line is so blurred by clan and family name changes, so to say you are related or linked to any of his daughters is nonsense. How do I know? I'm a Scot living in Edinburgh and it's my job to know this stuff.
KaiserSauzee 2 years ago 3
Bullshit. I'm Scottish (as in genuinely, not a generic American white guy trying to find his "roots") and I know that pretty much the only way to trace Scottish family history is through Parish records. Parish records don't go back anywhere close to the era of Robert the Bruce.
ronMexico121 2 years ago 2
I absaloutly LOVE Robert the bruce in this,he is soooooo sexy!
*AW*
GIGGAGLIJA 3 years ago 3
haahahha ok
enzogta 3 years ago
Wow the ole Scottish English hatred still lives on. One point I think a lot of people may have missed, or perhaps just neglected to mention was that Bruce was most likely quite pissed at king Edward for bypassing his old man for the Scottish crown, but since Balliol was a weakling, he served Edward's purposes much better. Also wasn't Bruce half Gael? Though a Lowlander (there were Gaels in the Lowlands at some point).
Hengest33 3 years ago
One more thing, I saw this clip while looking up Scottish history, and was intrigued since I never heard of this film, but really Braveheart was shit, not only the inaccuracy of how the battle of Stirling was presented (should have been a bridge there) to no credit being given to Andrew Moray (wasn't even in the film?)though I've read that some believe he was the architect of that victory,but hey I guess that's what happens when a Wallace writes the screenplay.anyway cheers folks slainte mhath!
Hengest33 3 years ago
They'll never get everything in, any movie based on anything is usually a lot worse.
PteEggyJ 3 years ago
True enough, about not fitting everything in, but Moray wasn't just some minor guy, he was leading a seperate rebellion, he was every bit as important as Wallace. How many major battles did Wallace win after Stirling? Also if as portrayed in the movie that is how the battle of Stirling bridge went down then the Scots would have been utterly massacred. They didn't have the arms,discipline or numbers to face the English head on, even in the Schiltron formation.
Hengest33 3 years ago
At last somebody who knows their history. Braveheart done a grave di-service to moray and the bruce. The bruce was very strong willed man, great fighter and better military leader than wallace. Aso as you say moray was every bit as important in the early years of the struggle as wallace was. He seems to be almost forgotten by history which is a great shame.
darrenn438 2 years ago
In the 13th-14th century Gaelic was the language and predominant culture of the whole of Scotland and English was the language of the Burghs, so there would have been Gaels in Lowland Scotland. Bruce was half Gaelic from the maternal side. Braveheart was a fairytail with a bit of truth in it. Wallace was a literate minor knight who'd spent time in France, for example, not a shag haired, face painted savage.
gert83 3 years ago
Exactly,just commenting on how some folks consider him a full Norman.
Hengest33 3 years ago
The Bruce was there at the battle of falkirk with the black douglas he rode into the batte to get wallace out who had been hit with arrow in the neck his second in command murray was dead scots we being slughtered by welsh bowman, wallace would not leave the field when the bruce grabbed him and said 'look aboot ye min'
jaldorian 3 years ago
The history books dispute strongly the notion that bruce was at the battle of falkirk. You have got to remember that wallace wanted balliol restored as king an bruce was in direct challange to balliols claim to the throne so its very doughtfull that the bruce wouldve risked his life to save wallace. Also moray was killed at the battle of stirling bridge so he couldnt have been at falkirk.
darrenn438 2 years ago
although Wallace was a great patriot and national hero, but we must remember that it was Bruce who defeated the English at Bannockburn
saltydog16 3 years ago 6
inaccurate but good film. My favorite character was not wallace but Robert the Bruce. I felt like i could connect to him. I am a follower but yearn to be a leader like Wallace and the Bruce
Reaganmarine 3 years ago 3
I agree with that, i thought Robert the Bruce was the only 'human' character of the main cast. Compare him with the absurd cartoon figures of Wallace and Edward I.
BigChiefMullet 3 years ago 4
Well made, would have made for good real movie.
bauc99 3 years ago
Braveheart is crap, so many historacal errors. Wallace was a lowlander not a highlander yet that is the way he is portrayed in the movie.Bruce wasnt there at the battle of falkirk or when wallace was captured by the english.
darrenn438 3 years ago
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I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce
legacyskateboards 3 years ago
Is Mel are going to make this movie, the sequel to BRAVEHEART?! Awesome!! Scots Wha Hae??!!
calrocko2005 3 years ago
i love him!!!
CorrsFanPortugal2 3 years ago
He was a medieval lord, all his motivations were driven by the thirst for more power. But he was a great rider and melee fighter. His "duel" with de Bohun is famous.
avatar666666 3 years ago 3
Even in such evil, violent times, to murder your closest rival for the throne in a church was seen as a terrible crime as it was.
nacho1560 3 years ago
What happened to the so called making of this film. Like many I deduced from my reading of history that Bruce was a traitor who wanted to be King for personal glory, not for Scotland. Would like to see how Hollywood portrayed him in a film about his life and times.
nacho1560 3 years ago
Like many "noble" lords in those times he switched allegiance often. However, what goes unrecognised is the fact that once he commited himself fully to attain the throne/freedom then there was no turning back. Remember his wife and daughter had been held captive and at least three of his brothers were killed. Despite all odds he achieved what very few Scots Kings had been able to do, which was to bring England to a settlement favourable to Scotland.
Robert I ; Scotlands greatest King!
thistlewarrior 3 years ago 4
True. He probably wasn't different from other lords of that time, but I can't help feeling he kinda betrayed Wallace.
Having said that I know his sister, correct me if I'm wrong, was held prisoner in a cage in a castle, that's not even the equivalent of a police cell, but a cage.
Thistle, good points, friend, maybe some I'd never considered. I look for your comments.
nacho1560 3 years ago
The 'betrayal' of Wallace thingy I had never really heard of until Braveheart came out. As I understand it the two had never met. Wallace, and I may be wrong here, fought as a Guardian of Scotland on behalf of John Balliol (Toom Tabard) the deposed King and Bruce and Comyn had rival, albeit weaker, claims to the throne. So, as far as my limited knowledge goes, no betrayal could have taken place because both men fought for rival families and as we know that meant more to nobles than country.contd
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
Wallace obviously still saw Balliol as King. Wallace wasn't a great landowner like Bruce and others so he didn't have to worry about lands in England being confiscated if he fought on one side.
It is known that Bruce was on friendly terms with Edward, I think that's where the stories about his fighting on the English side come from. He had lands in England so had to be careful.
nacho1560 3 years ago
contd. I just can't help but admire a man that sticks his neck out. Yes getting the crown meant everything to Bruce but at the end of the day, he was smart enough to know that gaining the crown only came with rebellion and risking everything in the process. Remember that his early campaigns were a disaster and he could have slipped into obscurity but showed the resolve required to lead the country. I only wish he had thrown his lot in with Wallace but hey, 'whits fur ye wil no gang by ye' eh?
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
BTW with a name like nacho are you a fellow bluenose or do you just really like doritos?
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
I am a bluenose, thistle, but a Dundee one, not Rangers.
Still like Nacho Novo, though.
nacho1560 3 years ago
they could not risk anymore loss from their armies in fear the danes or germans would invade by boat.
tacityrn 3 years ago
What?????????
TributePA 3 years ago
but it was bruce who saw through the independance of scotland so maybe some of what you read about the history of his manipulative ways was alot more false than true but it is true that the bruce had an affinity to diplomacy that wallace could never see so they could never meet eye to eye on so many things
but in the end it was the passion for what wallace did that made him strive for the indpendance of scotland through battle till the english gave up, their homeland armies were exhausted.
tacityrn 3 years ago
even after wallace was executed bruce suffered a couple defeats on the feild always retreating to recoup and i cant discredit him for that tactical mind
tacityrn 3 years ago
the only reason he led the battle against the british was because he saw things go in his favor after the wake of chaos wallace left, he basically used him like a tool
tacityrn 3 years ago