usually these types of videos have third-rate karate practitioners with a black belt that they probably bought, but this was beautiful to watch, very precise. It's nothing like the hakutsuru I have learned, but still very well done.
All of the white crane technique is so fascinating. Especially when you put it side by side with modern karate. However I notice that every kata I see called "hakutsuru" usually starts the same but then varies greatly. Is hakutsuru simply a placeholder name for a lot of crane style kata?
@senseikayne Hakutsuru is a strange beast. Many such named kata are home made because a few years ago it was the rage to have one in your curriculum. This particular form comes from a very well known teacher and if you read through the previous comments you will figure out who brought this kata to the west.
Very, few people have studied tuiti at any depth in Okinawa. Some like Shian Toma taught some foreigners his 10-20 tuiti techniques, but Toma wasn't really that good at tuiti. Many people like to claim tuiti because it's a martial arts buzz word, but they are "showing off" basic aikido. They won't tell you who taught them, how long they practiced, when they were in Okinawa etc.. Some of us can verify it. Oyata would be a beginner in Okinawa.
Who was the one that went to Kume villiage and learned it? Who did he/she learn it from and how old is the form? Is it new? I find some Okinawans making up kata to teach foreigners, then send them on their way. They come to Okinawa to learn the "secrets" so the Okinawans give them "secrets".. unfortunately the secret is that they taught them crap with a fancy name and took their money for their certificate.. My friend in Taiwan tells me the same. I've been in Okinawa 30 yrs.. funny stuff.
@uminchu7th Take up your cause with Patrick McCarthy Sensei. I have trained in Okinawan Goju & Shorin ryu for 39 years. None of my teachers ever advertised or taught "secrets". I am aware that such things occur having heard the horror stories for buying rank, etc.
Nice fuildity in this performance. I notice most Hakutsuru katas are very long and contain movements that have a strong Chinese flavor to them. This one is no expection. Very strong performance. Wouldn't mine learning it! OSU!!
Should be nice if you made a video with the Bunkai of the Kata. What does this Kata means? Are you stuck in basics like many martial artist (kicks, blocks and punches) or do you know what this Kata is? Do you know what a Kata is? Why were they made?. I don't mean to be rude or to criticize my main language is Spanish so if I sound rude is not what I mean to be. I just want to know what you really know about this Kata and martial arts. Thanks God bless you
@migueyannette I looked at your channel and saw that you made the rounds to others doing a version of Hakutsuru and you basically said the same thing. If you are a 23 year old person asking this; as your page states, then your request can be perceived as arrogant. If you want us to post such a video, then post some of yourself performing kata & oyo. Then I will consider your request.
@NewEnglandBudo I'm not trying to compare me and you I'm only asking you do you know what your doing?? or are you doing moving randomly who some one though you. In that case you should become a dancer like most martial artist today. Doing thing with no commune sense stuck in basics (punches, kicks and blocks) No Tuite, no ChinNa no Kyusho, no joint lock, pressure points. Martial artist of today are just brawlers and fancy dancers. Are you one more??
@migueyannette Once again, I am saddened by your reply that is so arrogant. Chin Na is a Chinese word not usually used in Okinawan karate. Kyusho, is a term made famous Seiyu Oyata and George Dillman and their followers. Tuite is a good term from Okinawa, however, those who actually practice it simply call it "Ti".
@migueyannette I suggest that you review some of my other videos that contain my students and then come back and apologize: GlkyD_P8y5c Phil Wyman MMA fight (bald) or Jay at Guardian Self Defense 1 bmp5Q2h7cmY Both are yondan in my dojo.
Le sugiero que revise algunos de mis otros videos que contienen mis estudiantes y luego volver y pedir disculpas: GlkyD_P8y5c Phil Wyman lucha de MMA (calvo) o Jay en The Guardian de Autodefensa un bmp5Q2h7cmY Ambos son yondan en mi dojo.
@NewEnglandBudo I cant find the video there are a lot of videos by that name can I get the Full title or a way to identify it??? and I will apologize if the self defense is Kata applicable. Not if it only self defense (TuiTe ChinNa and Kyusho regardless of origin share the same principles for self defense is universal this being that the human body anatomy is practically the same in all of us. that is why I mention all of them.)
@ migueyannette Una vez más, estoy triste por su respuesta que es tan arrogante. Chin Na es una palabra china que no se usa en el karate de Okinawa. Kyusho, es un término hecho famoso Oyata Seiyu y George Dillman y sus seguidores. Tuite es un buen término de Okinawa, sin embargo, aquellos que realmente lo practican lo llamamos simplemente "Ti".
@NewEnglandBudo First off all I reply arrogantly because you commented arrogantly in this video Hakutsuru performed by Renshi Edgardo Martinez . Truth be told I spoke more arrogantly than you for that I'm sorry, This Video is from a sport Karate tournament if the kata were made the proper way traditional way there is no chance in winning sport karate tourmanets in PR and US. sad but true. It does not mean the person doing this does not know the kata or what it means.
@migueyannette I wrote on Martinez's version above "The true Hakutsuru should flow. There is no grunting and screaming. The kata should be elegant not bombastic like this one." If you have to modify you kata to win a trophy then you are doing the kata improperly. The kata performance should not change, the intensity from within but in a controlled way. Martinez's home made Hakutsuru looks like he is having trouble with passing kidney stones. The kata is performed terribly only to win a trophy
@NewEnglandBudo That is MMA fighting no TuiTe no self defense. This video was made by a brown belt, is a Self defense exhibition and has self defense and kata this is what I mean is a bit flashy because it was in a sport karate tournament and sport Karate is always flashy. This is Kata and Bunkai explanation The tittle is: isshinryu Wansu Kata & Bunkai by Sensei Miguel Santo Domingo
@migueyannette One of my friends read your comments and replied to me with this: "The Dunning–Kruger effect.:"a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the meta-cognitive ability to realize their mistakes.The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is."
@NewEnglandBudo Jajajajjajajajjaja this is a great comment and whoever said this is more ignorant and stupid than me Never have I said or implied that I know more than u guys nor that I'm a good practitioner. I dont think of myself as a superior martial artist neither a person of superior Knowledge I'm 23 I'm beginning to live and to learn many things jajajjajajajjaa but this one actually made me laugh.
@migueyannette Someone has filled your head with this Chin na, Kyushu & Tui te are the end all of karate. You have been sold a batch of horse manure. I have yet see kyushu techniques work on an unwilling uke. Chin na is a Chinese word that is not utilized by tradition Karate means Joint locks, controlling techniques,etc.which is basically ju-jitsu or kensetsu waza. You should seek out someone that really know karate and train with a real Sensei.
@NewEnglandBudo Again I'm saying that Karate and TuiTe are to parts of the same> Not 2 different things. The same goes for ChinNa and Chinese martial arts.
@migueyannette I believe I have already said that. Tuite or Ti are the simplistic attacks coming from the kata. I also teach Tegumi, kensetsu-waza, ne-waza, shime-waza, & gyaku-waza within my Bunkai. You are stuck on some terms that were made popular by George Dillman. His kyusho-jitsu would not work on people other than his students. I also work ju-jitsu atemi waza, as well as the plethora of fighting techniques that comes from good tuition from very competent Sensei.
@NewEnglandBudo Sensei I am not questioning your knowledge for the 100,000 time. On the contrary I'm happy and proud that you know what you are doing. Because without Knowledge and proper self defense Karate would be just fancy dancing.
@migueyannette I have been training for 39 years this month and have had the opportunity to train with some of the best Okinawan teachers alive. Come back when u have trained as long, then see if you still believe in this bull crap?
@NewEnglandBudo Now it is you who is arrogant you fell with the same stone that I did may I remind you that you have 2 ears but only one mouth and that a lose mouth is prof of an empty brain. At least I now my mistakes but how will you take this comment Sensei. God bless u.
@migueyannette This will be the last that I will entertain on the subject. They can be used if you knew what u were doing. I still feel that the original kata that u referred me to of the kid doing a lot of screaming and squatting as if he was using a Japanese Benjo & the Wansu Bunkai would make the Okinawan Masters roll over in their graves
@migueyannette Of course MMA has no tuite per say, but you were alluding that my students did not know self-defense, believe me they do. What about the other video I referred you to? youtu(dot)be/bmp5Q2h7cmY
@migueyannette I watched his video demonstration and find this at a Kihon-omote level of Bunkai. It was a bunch of flash for points. Self-defense and real bunkai means that when the person attacks you they do not hold the hand out there for you to grab. You use this method when teaching very basic bunkai as seen in the video you referred me to. I would suggest that you look up IOGKF Kakie, or Jundokan kakie and watch and learn. My sensei says "You have 2 ears and only one mouth"
@NewEnglandBudo And Finally more advance techniques could not be used in an exhibition like that because it will result in hurting the Uke. You should know that
@migueyannette other than using the term bunkai, or Te (Tii) you will not hear them discuss Kyusho, and when you bring up the subject of "Kyusho". They break out in laughter and state to the questioner "Too Much George Dillman-san or Seiki Oyata-san - not real karate" . Perhaps you should read a bit about true bunkai rather than throw around terms that are a part of a fad going around:
@NewEnglandBudo I saw the video of the Sensei doing Bunkai. I dont know who he is and is all do respect: In my opinion the techniques were to long and when facing multiple opponents that is not good. Also many of the techniques ended with both persons on the flor again with multiple opponents not a good Idea. Other than that they were better than many other peoples techniques.)
@migueyannette Yes that is omote level bunkai. It is based for one attacker. Perhaps you should search Teruo Chinen here on Youtube. As to the ending techniques on the floor, most of those techniques have arm, wrist, shoulder breaks in them. The second throw where he scoops and throws him, if one does not know how to land, then their face smashes on the ground first.
@NewEnglandBudo Then I love those techniques. That is the way it should be simple and effective a thechnique must not be more than 1 or 2 seconds long is it to finish a confrontation immediately or if you have more than one opponent. Unless it is a technique for controlling the opponent not finish him of. Most of the techniques of the video that I told you Wansu Kata and bunkai end in a dislocation of the shoulder or breaking the elbow even thought it doesn't appear in the video.
@NewEnglandBudo I find the video but if the technique ends by misplacing or breaking the bone like many of the techniques of this Kata they cannot be done in an exhibition without a modification. Because none other than the people who knows it will understand them. (TuiTe is a part of Karate not many people knows and it is like a different language that not everybody understand.)
@migueyannette Once again, I refer you to my students video that you said "looked like a brown belt performance" He is performing the techniques slowly so that he does not injure his uke. Note the arm breaks, wrist breaks, stomps and application of tsubo (what u call kyusho Try watching it a few times, maybe you will see the techniques;
@NewEnglandBudo When I search GuardianSelfDefense 1 what it appears are a lot of Videos of some guys called guardian angels are that the one?? if it is it shows great self defense techniques.
@NewEnglandBudo Found it. Love it. It is great to see martial artist who knows what they are doing. We do a lot of Techniques like that with Kyoshi Javier Martinez in PR. We also apply bunkai like that in Katas. Sensei I apologize for any comment that in any way was disrespectful to you. I confess to you that I love our discussion and arguments about martial arts. God Bless You thanks for your time.
@migueyannette Finally, I am happy that you found it. Jose Senpai posted above and I sent him a private message. I do not mind being challenged about knowledge, history and preserving the old ways of karate. But we diverge a bit with the tournament centered karate of today. So much is being lost for the sake of competition.
@migueyannette Desde el traductor de Google: Miré a su canal y vio que le dio la vuelta a los demás haciendo una versión de Hakutsuru y básicamente dijo lo mismo. Si usted es una persona de 23 años pidiendo esto, como afirma la página, a continuación, su petición puede ser percibido como arrogante. Si usted quiere publicar un vídeo, a continuación, publicar algunos de ti mismo kata realizar y Oyo. A continuación, voy a considerar su petición.
@migueyannette Desde el traductor de Google: Miré a su canal y vio que le dio la vuelta a los demás haciendo una versión de Hakutsuru y básicamente dijo lo mismo. Si usted es una persona de 23 años pidiendo esto, como afirma la página, a continuación, su petición puede ser percibido como arrogante. Si usted quiere publicar un vídeo, a continuación, publicar algunos de ti mismo kata realizar y Oyo. A continuación, voy a considerar su petición.
Shihan Donahue has done a great performance utilizing elements of Rohai, Kusanku, Passai and of course White Krane, the turns impress me as spot-on pivots/rotations that are escential in escapes, he generates sufficent Ki with his internal energy and keeps Okinawan fist and Tomari-Te.
I would enjoy a view of application( bunkai) Thank You
@NoKnockaKnee Nice Pachu on your Channel. Not the atypical tournament brand that requires 3 minutes breaks between moves so the cameras can flash & the judges can drink their tea.
@NewEnglandBudo Nice video of Hakutsuru. I train in okinawan kenpo and we have a hakutsuru kata in our system as well. This one is done much differently then the one I do but everyone has their own ideas. It's through these different ideas that we can learn from each other. ( BOWS )
Bloody excellent. Strong precise execution with good flow and an obvious understanding of the oyo. For such a big fella he moves very nicely and does not stick at all. Very nice form and one of the best renditions I have seen. I'd like to see more!
this is one of the best white crane I ve seen preformed,I have learned some white crane forms taught by Hanshi Roy Oyakawa linage ( now deceased) and I can say that this one is also very beautiful.
This kata is totally different from the one shown by george alexander. I am totally confused and can not get a straight answere from anyone as to which one is authentic. Has anyone got any knowledge on these two versions and can give me a straight answere. George Alexander claims that the kumemura Hakutsuru he teaches is the grandfather of all other Okinawan White Crane Hakutsuru
way too hard for white crane, go softly not so hard. Try being more ellegant with the kata rather than all out power if u do the bunkai works so much better.
@jiggahippo The way I learned it there are several ways to do it. One is hard with intensity like if you're really trying to maim someone like he is. Another is slow and relaxed, and then breaking it down focusing on the little pieces.
we can talk about origin all day , fact is this man has good mechanics, and an understanding of Tode, I would even go as far to say Hanshi McCarthey would agree, this is a good kata regardless of everything else. im very impressed. thank you for the video
This is an excellent kata in my opinion regardless of origin. The practitioner is obviously well trained in his execution. I get tired of people on the sidelines criticizing what is obviously good technique, when their kata is most likely lacking. I wish I did kata half as sharp as this , I might actually get a big head. I agree , if you can't put the moves into real combatives and understand methodology behind the techniques it really does not matter what kata or style you practice.
I agree . Nowadays we think that technique must be done like a robot to be good . It's a complete misunderstanding of karate . Kata is encripted knowledge , not a dancing or coreography . It's a methodology of teaching and if you don't know what use for , you don't know nothing about kata and karate no matter how "beautiful" could be your performance .
Were the White Crane Techniques brought from China by some of the member of the 36 families? I wondered about that becaus the 36 families settle in Kume Village in 1392 and some of them knew Chinese Boxing.
Patrick is in his 40's and started training without any breaks since age 6. This kata was taught to us by Patrick McCarthy Sensei. Their flow is a bit different than this one. If you look back in the comments McCarthySensei refers to somebody from his organization performing the kata.
I wanted to thank you for posting this video. It is now my new tournament kata. I performed it at the USKA karate nationals this month and took first place against the 3rd and 4th dan men's division. I love this kata, it's so beautiful. I'll post the video of my performance as soon as i get the time. Just look for my vids. -thepongcartel
Second peculiarity, and second question: Is the performance at regular speed? It almost looks like he's going through the majority of the moves somewhat more lightly and more relaxed than warranted (obviously, the jump kicks are the exception, because he can't pause in midair). It's as if he is making it easier to study the postures. Or is this an artifact of the white crane timing? In doing the kata on my own, I find myself slipping into a goju-ryu rhythm, with more burst and punctuation.
Jim, I've enjoyed looking at this clip a number of times. There are a couple of peculiarities about it. Was it part of a longer filming, i.e. was the hakutsuru section culled from a longer piece? It doesn't seem like the creator of the video was setting out to create a hakutsuru clip itself. It has no frame, i.e. he seems to step in yooi all of a sudden, and then he doesn't seem to finish -- the clip just stops at what I hope is the final move of the kata. Is this the whole thing?
Dave, I cut this performance from one of Patrick's dojo anniversary DVDs. Thus the lead in with the commercial. The end of the kata moved quickly into another portion of the tape. I basically plucked it out of a sequence of demos. Pluck being the verbiage of a white crane attacking.
It looks like a made up kata to me, as I recognise so many PARTS of other Goju Kata. But ......... I trust Patrick McCarthy's depth of research and integrity not to promote a fake version ..... it still looks made up though! It's an incredibly long kata! Interesting though and skillful. Re comments about showing what the techniques are ... its a kata, not the bunkai being shown.
'Made up' doesn't mean 'fake', does it? All kata were 'made up' once! The grace and power of this are exceptional, it seems to me. I wish I could 'make up' something even half as good!
Yeah I agree. This is the Kume version of Hakutusuru. Kume (Formely called Kuninda) is located in Naha, Okinawa. Naha-Te is a style that developed into Goju-ryu.
thank u for posting this clip. the skill is master class and presentation excellent. this widens my own training, i m happy to apply some of the movements in my teaching and own kata training . ( bow)
re the Kume Village Hakutsuru kata taught by McCarthy Sensei here is what he said to me -
'FYI, the routine is representative of the eclectic southern shaolin-based quanfa [Monk, 5-form Fist---Dragon, Tiger, Crane, etc.] taught in Matsuyama park during turn-or-the-century Okinawa - handed down to my teacher Kinjo Hiroshi.
Martial Arts is an Art. Just as two musicians may perform the same song, each performs it differently. It's the soul that's put into a rendition that makes it great. So too must Kata have soul. Learn it and make it your own.
its not necessarily Sensi Donahues rendition rather the same kata with different focal points, if thats what you call rendition then were thinking on the same terms. My view is that if a kata is done gracefully and flowing by one person and powerful with exagerated moves, stance, and power by another then it is still the same kata.
also too a note that these kata are not made up the reason that they are not on the net is because most "respected" martial artists don't particularly want their work publicized. If I told you some of the lineage of my teacher and dojo you probably wouldn't believe me.
You would be correct on that part of that but the moves aren't designed for weapons it just means that some kata weapons like sai may be appropriate to use in place of a knife hand. Also I have been training with Kyoshi Donahue for 4 years (Augest of 2004) and personally know from expirence that the techniques hurt and are fairly well hidden.
Granted the origins Unadi and koryu kobudo are closely intertwined. But I must disagree with your premise are for weapons applications, but rather weapons defense. See my post below about the origin of the kata. Want to argue it's validity contact McCarthySensei here on youtube. This is Patrick's rendition of the kata taught by him.
I could see why you would say that you think it's made up. Sometimes I see some kata and feel the same. They just seem made up. I am not saying it is, but to me, it also seems made up.
you mean pretenders such as yourself wannabeebee? you can't be bothered yet you harrass people on the internet? do you have something to back up the extraordinary claims you make in every other video? i don't believe you do. i dare you to post something and stop being a ghost account that hides behind the keyboard
the user wannabeebee. he's been posting in every martial art video, calling himself an expert and then daring other people with no account to post something to show they're not losers. failing to follow his own advice. then he insulted choson ninja and shotokan karate teachers. even valetudo fighters in a valetudo video......... not only that but he verbally attacks atheists on their videos and people that support evolution like richard dawkins and disrespected a video: day that carl sagan died
wannabeebee is the a nasty troll and i can give you the links. i started following his posts after a nasty attack on myself and other atheists and liberals, he argued that i couldn't possibly be outsmarting him like i did because i was from south america. so therefore i must had been telling lies and had to be from australia or new zealand......
the worst thing is that he's proud of his ignorance
usually these types of videos have third-rate karate practitioners with a black belt that they probably bought, but this was beautiful to watch, very precise. It's nothing like the hakutsuru I have learned, but still very well done.
ebrithil212 2 months ago
@ebrithil212 Would love to see your version. Please send me a link or upload one.
NewEnglandBudo 2 months ago
All of the white crane technique is so fascinating. Especially when you put it side by side with modern karate. However I notice that every kata I see called "hakutsuru" usually starts the same but then varies greatly. Is hakutsuru simply a placeholder name for a lot of crane style kata?
senseikayne 2 months ago
@senseikayne Hakutsuru is a strange beast. Many such named kata are home made because a few years ago it was the rage to have one in your curriculum. This particular form comes from a very well known teacher and if you read through the previous comments you will figure out who brought this kata to the west.
NewEnglandBudo 2 months ago
Che bella forma!!Però non credo che sia shorin ryu kyudokan.Di che famiglia di shorin ryu si tratta?
tiofene1 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@tiofene1 No, non è un kata Kyudokan. E 'uno che il mio amico ha fatto diversi anni fa.
NewEnglandBudo 2 months ago
Good kata but very westernised and sporty nothing like it should be . the end reverse punch in a long shotokan stance truely can not be okinawan .
kenkyukai100 6 months ago
@kenkyukai100 Sorry just found your comment today. I guess the carrier pigeon is still en route.
NewEnglandBudo 2 months ago
Beautiful ..... powerful , precise .... loved it
sweetfly66 9 months ago
Very, few people have studied tuiti at any depth in Okinawa. Some like Shian Toma taught some foreigners his 10-20 tuiti techniques, but Toma wasn't really that good at tuiti. Many people like to claim tuiti because it's a martial arts buzz word, but they are "showing off" basic aikido. They won't tell you who taught them, how long they practiced, when they were in Okinawa etc.. Some of us can verify it. Oyata would be a beginner in Okinawa.
uminchu7th 11 months ago
Who was the one that went to Kume villiage and learned it? Who did he/she learn it from and how old is the form? Is it new? I find some Okinawans making up kata to teach foreigners, then send them on their way. They come to Okinawa to learn the "secrets" so the Okinawans give them "secrets".. unfortunately the secret is that they taught them crap with a fancy name and took their money for their certificate.. My friend in Taiwan tells me the same. I've been in Okinawa 30 yrs.. funny stuff.
uminchu7th 11 months ago
@uminchu7th Take up your cause with Patrick McCarthy Sensei. I have trained in Okinawan Goju & Shorin ryu for 39 years. None of my teachers ever advertised or taught "secrets". I am aware that such things occur having heard the horror stories for buying rank, etc.
Ganbatte,
NewEnglandBudo 11 months ago
Very impressive. Is he using the toe kick (shomen/somen-geri?) for the kicks?
elu296 1 year ago
Ok, let's finish this. I'm talking to both of you, what's your point? What's the message you want to get across?
Joselopr 1 year ago
Nice fuildity in this performance. I notice most Hakutsuru katas are very long and contain movements that have a strong Chinese flavor to them. This one is no expection. Very strong performance. Wouldn't mine learning it! OSU!!
tamashii14 1 year ago
Should be nice if you made a video with the Bunkai of the Kata. What does this Kata means? Are you stuck in basics like many martial artist (kicks, blocks and punches) or do you know what this Kata is? Do you know what a Kata is? Why were they made?. I don't mean to be rude or to criticize my main language is Spanish so if I sound rude is not what I mean to be. I just want to know what you really know about this Kata and martial arts. Thanks God bless you
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I looked at your channel and saw that you made the rounds to others doing a version of Hakutsuru and you basically said the same thing. If you are a 23 year old person asking this; as your page states, then your request can be perceived as arrogant. If you want us to post such a video, then post some of yourself performing kata & oyo. Then I will consider your request.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo I'm not trying to compare me and you I'm only asking you do you know what your doing?? or are you doing moving randomly who some one though you. In that case you should become a dancer like most martial artist today. Doing thing with no commune sense stuck in basics (punches, kicks and blocks) No Tuite, no ChinNa no Kyusho, no joint lock, pressure points. Martial artist of today are just brawlers and fancy dancers. Are you one more??
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette Once again, I am saddened by your reply that is so arrogant. Chin Na is a Chinese word not usually used in Okinawan karate. Kyusho, is a term made famous Seiyu Oyata and George Dillman and their followers. Tuite is a good term from Okinawa, however, those who actually practice it simply call it "Ti".
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette I suggest that you review some of my other videos that contain my students and then come back and apologize: GlkyD_P8y5c Phil Wyman MMA fight (bald) or Jay at Guardian Self Defense 1 bmp5Q2h7cmY Both are yondan in my dojo.
Le sugiero que revise algunos de mis otros videos que contienen mis estudiantes y luego volver y pedir disculpas: GlkyD_P8y5c Phil Wyman lucha de MMA (calvo) o Jay en The Guardian de Autodefensa un bmp5Q2h7cmY Ambos son yondan en mi dojo.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo I cant find the video there are a lot of videos by that name can I get the Full title or a way to identify it??? and I will apologize if the self defense is Kata applicable. Not if it only self defense (TuiTe ChinNa and Kyusho regardless of origin share the same principles for self defense is universal this being that the human body anatomy is practically the same in all of us. that is why I mention all of them.)
migueyannette 1 year ago
@ migueyannette Una vez más, estoy triste por su respuesta que es tan arrogante. Chin Na es una palabra china que no se usa en el karate de Okinawa. Kyusho, es un término hecho famoso Oyata Seiyu y George Dillman y sus seguidores. Tuite es un buen término de Okinawa, sin embargo, aquellos que realmente lo practican lo llamamos simplemente "Ti".
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo First off all I reply arrogantly because you commented arrogantly in this video Hakutsuru performed by Renshi Edgardo Martinez . Truth be told I spoke more arrogantly than you for that I'm sorry, This Video is from a sport Karate tournament if the kata were made the proper way traditional way there is no chance in winning sport karate tourmanets in PR and US. sad but true. It does not mean the person doing this does not know the kata or what it means.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I wrote on Martinez's version above "The true Hakutsuru should flow. There is no grunting and screaming. The kata should be elegant not bombastic like this one." If you have to modify you kata to win a trophy then you are doing the kata improperly. The kata performance should not change, the intensity from within but in a controlled way. Martinez's home made Hakutsuru looks like he is having trouble with passing kidney stones. The kata is performed terribly only to win a trophy
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette You will find Phillip's fight loaded below. Usted encontrará la lucha de Phillip cargado a continuación.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo That is MMA fighting no TuiTe no self defense. This video was made by a brown belt, is a Self defense exhibition and has self defense and kata this is what I mean is a bit flashy because it was in a sport karate tournament and sport Karate is always flashy. This is Kata and Bunkai explanation The tittle is: isshinryu Wansu Kata & Bunkai by Sensei Miguel Santo Domingo
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette One of my friends read your comments and replied to me with this: "The Dunning–Kruger effect.:"a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the meta-cognitive ability to realize their mistakes.The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is."
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Jajajajjajajajjaja this is a great comment and whoever said this is more ignorant and stupid than me Never have I said or implied that I know more than u guys nor that I'm a good practitioner. I dont think of myself as a superior martial artist neither a person of superior Knowledge I'm 23 I'm beginning to live and to learn many things jajajjajajajjaa but this one actually made me laugh.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette Someone has filled your head with this Chin na, Kyushu & Tui te are the end all of karate. You have been sold a batch of horse manure. I have yet see kyushu techniques work on an unwilling uke. Chin na is a Chinese word that is not utilized by tradition Karate means Joint locks, controlling techniques,etc.which is basically ju-jitsu or kensetsu waza. You should seek out someone that really know karate and train with a real Sensei.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Again I'm saying that Karate and TuiTe are to parts of the same> Not 2 different things. The same goes for ChinNa and Chinese martial arts.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I believe I have already said that. Tuite or Ti are the simplistic attacks coming from the kata. I also teach Tegumi, kensetsu-waza, ne-waza, shime-waza, & gyaku-waza within my Bunkai. You are stuck on some terms that were made popular by George Dillman. His kyusho-jitsu would not work on people other than his students. I also work ju-jitsu atemi waza, as well as the plethora of fighting techniques that comes from good tuition from very competent Sensei.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Sensei I am not questioning your knowledge for the 100,000 time. On the contrary I'm happy and proud that you know what you are doing. Because without Knowledge and proper self defense Karate would be just fancy dancing.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I have been training for 39 years this month and have had the opportunity to train with some of the best Okinawan teachers alive. Come back when u have trained as long, then see if you still believe in this bull crap?
Try reading: martialartsfriends(dot)com/index.php?do=/NewEnglandBudo/blog/1-kata-3-years-training/
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Now it is you who is arrogant you fell with the same stone that I did may I remind you that you have 2 ears but only one mouth and that a lose mouth is prof of an empty brain. At least I now my mistakes but how will you take this comment Sensei. God bless u.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I would love to see your sensei's face if he knew you were speaking to a senior like this.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette This will be the last that I will entertain on the subject. They can be used if you knew what u were doing. I still feel that the original kata that u referred me to of the kid doing a lot of screaming and squatting as if he was using a Japanese Benjo & the Wansu Bunkai would make the Okinawan Masters roll over in their graves
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette Of course MMA has no tuite per say, but you were alluding that my students did not know self-defense, believe me they do. What about the other video I referred you to? youtu(dot)be/bmp5Q2h7cmY
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette I watched his video demonstration and find this at a Kihon-omote level of Bunkai. It was a bunch of flash for points. Self-defense and real bunkai means that when the person attacks you they do not hold the hand out there for you to grab. You use this method when teaching very basic bunkai as seen in the video you referred me to. I would suggest that you look up IOGKF Kakie, or Jundokan kakie and watch and learn. My sensei says "You have 2 ears and only one mouth"
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo And Finally more advance techniques could not be used in an exhibition like that because it will result in hurting the Uke. You should know that
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette other than using the term bunkai, or Te (Tii) you will not hear them discuss Kyusho, and when you bring up the subject of "Kyusho". They break out in laughter and state to the questioner "Too Much George Dillman-san or Seiki Oyata-san - not real karate" . Perhaps you should read a bit about true bunkai rather than throw around terms that are a part of a fad going around:
martialartsfriends(dot)com/index.php?do=/NewEnglandBudo/blog/methods-of-bunkai/
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo I saw the video of the Sensei doing Bunkai. I dont know who he is and is all do respect: In my opinion the techniques were to long and when facing multiple opponents that is not good. Also many of the techniques ended with both persons on the flor again with multiple opponents not a good Idea. Other than that they were better than many other peoples techniques.)
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette Yes that is omote level bunkai. It is based for one attacker. Perhaps you should search Teruo Chinen here on Youtube. As to the ending techniques on the floor, most of those techniques have arm, wrist, shoulder breaks in them. The second throw where he scoops and throws him, if one does not know how to land, then their face smashes on the ground first.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Then I love those techniques. That is the way it should be simple and effective a thechnique must not be more than 1 or 2 seconds long is it to finish a confrontation immediately or if you have more than one opponent. Unless it is a technique for controlling the opponent not finish him of. Most of the techniques of the video that I told you Wansu Kata and bunkai end in a dislocation of the shoulder or breaking the elbow even thought it doesn't appear in the video.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette I disagree that advanced techniques if done properly would injure someone and this video proves it:
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=n2asBlqsdAY
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo I find the video but if the technique ends by misplacing or breaking the bone like many of the techniques of this Kata they cannot be done in an exhibition without a modification. Because none other than the people who knows it will understand them. (TuiTe is a part of Karate not many people knows and it is like a different language that not everybody understand.)
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette Once again, I refer you to my students video that you said "looked like a brown belt performance" He is performing the techniques slowly so that he does not injure his uke. Note the arm breaks, wrist breaks, stomps and application of tsubo (what u call kyusho Try watching it a few times, maybe you will see the techniques;
youtube.com/user/GuardianSelfDefense1
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo When I search GuardianSelfDefense 1 what it appears are a lot of Videos of some guys called guardian angels are that the one?? if it is it shows great self defense techniques.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette just cut and paste the link into the browser : youtube(dot)com/watch?v=bmp5Q2h7cmY
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Found it. Love it. It is great to see martial artist who knows what they are doing. We do a lot of Techniques like that with Kyoshi Javier Martinez in PR. We also apply bunkai like that in Katas. Sensei I apologize for any comment that in any way was disrespectful to you. I confess to you that I love our discussion and arguments about martial arts. God Bless You thanks for your time.
migueyannette 1 year ago
@migueyannette Finally, I am happy that you found it. Jose Senpai posted above and I sent him a private message. I do not mind being challenged about knowledge, history and preserving the old ways of karate. But we diverge a bit with the tournament centered karate of today. So much is being lost for the sake of competition.
Vaya con Dios y Feliz Ano Nuevo...
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette Desde el traductor de Google: Miré a su canal y vio que le dio la vuelta a los demás haciendo una versión de Hakutsuru y básicamente dijo lo mismo. Si usted es una persona de 23 años pidiendo esto, como afirma la página, a continuación, su petición puede ser percibido como arrogante. Si usted quiere publicar un vídeo, a continuación, publicar algunos de ti mismo kata realizar y Oyo. A continuación, voy a considerar su petición.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@migueyannette Desde el traductor de Google: Miré a su canal y vio que le dio la vuelta a los demás haciendo una versión de Hakutsuru y básicamente dijo lo mismo. Si usted es una persona de 23 años pidiendo esto, como afirma la página, a continuación, su petición puede ser percibido como arrogante. Si usted quiere publicar un vídeo, a continuación, publicar algunos de ti mismo kata realizar y Oyo. A continuación, voy a considerar su petición.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
Shihan Donahue has done a great performance utilizing elements of Rohai, Kusanku, Passai and of course White Krane, the turns impress me as spot-on pivots/rotations that are escential in escapes, he generates sufficent Ki with his internal energy and keeps Okinawan fist and Tomari-Te.
I would enjoy a view of application( bunkai) Thank You
karateusa1 1 year ago
@karateusa1 Check out the version that McCarthy Sensei's guys do:
"The Kume Hakutsuru I teach can be located by searching for darrinj1969
It's being performed by my student, Darrin Johnson from the DC area who learned it in 2000 from another of my American students".
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
I have never seen this kata before .. what a tremendous performance ...what style is this ...it looks sort of like a cross between Goju / Shaolin
sweetfly66 1 year ago
@sweetfly66 Kume Village is a small village where many methods of karate were practiced. It has pieces of Naha-Shorin & Tomari-te in it.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
There's so much karate garbage on youtube. This is a wonderful find. Amazing form, true understanding of the body's kinematics in real karate. Bravo.
NoKnockaKnee 1 year ago
@NoKnockaKnee Nice Pachu on your Channel. Not the atypical tournament brand that requires 3 minutes breaks between moves so the cameras can flash & the judges can drink their tea.
NewEnglandBudo 1 year ago
@NewEnglandBudo Nice video of Hakutsuru. I train in okinawan kenpo and we have a hakutsuru kata in our system as well. This one is done much differently then the one I do but everyone has their own ideas. It's through these different ideas that we can learn from each other. ( BOWS )
yahooman64 1 year ago
The intensity in the moves is inspiring.
AnbusKitsune 1 year ago
Great execution... I have never seen this version before... thanks for sharing...
Osu...
VanMeterRick 1 year ago
Excellent! A wonderfully performed kata.
jicudi 1 year ago
Bloody excellent. Strong precise execution with good flow and an obvious understanding of the oyo. For such a big fella he moves very nicely and does not stick at all. Very nice form and one of the best renditions I have seen. I'd like to see more!
borrux 1 year ago
this is one of the best white crane I ve seen preformed,I have learned some white crane forms taught by Hanshi Roy Oyakawa linage ( now deceased) and I can say that this one is also very beautiful.
screens50 1 year ago
WOW!! Impressive!!!
areonz 2 years ago
I think he does an excellent performance no matter where or what lineage this came from
OkinawaShorinryu 2 years ago
Hey out there in you tube land
This kata is totally different from the one shown by george alexander. I am totally confused and can not get a straight answere from anyone as to which one is authentic. Has anyone got any knowledge on these two versions and can give me a straight answere. George Alexander claims that the kumemura Hakutsuru he teaches is the grandfather of all other Okinawan White Crane Hakutsuru
Uchinadika 2 years ago
That my friend you will probably never know.
OkinawaShorinryu 2 years ago
way too hard for white crane, go softly not so hard. Try being more ellegant with the kata rather than all out power if u do the bunkai works so much better.
jiggahippo 2 years ago
@jiggahippo The way I learned it there are several ways to do it. One is hard with intensity like if you're really trying to maim someone like he is. Another is slow and relaxed, and then breaking it down focusing on the little pieces.
AnbusKitsune 1 year ago
not bad for a round eye great form thank you
MrBrokenwind 2 years ago
Very precise movements
and the flow excellent
well done
very inspiring
just like my sensei's
n_n
rhithame 2 years ago
Excellent White Crane Kata!
crane76 2 years ago
we can talk about origin all day , fact is this man has good mechanics, and an understanding of Tode, I would even go as far to say Hanshi McCarthey would agree, this is a good kata regardless of everything else. im very impressed. thank you for the video
Aaronstiver 2 years ago
This is an excellent kata in my opinion regardless of origin. The practitioner is obviously well trained in his execution. I get tired of people on the sidelines criticizing what is obviously good technique, when their kata is most likely lacking. I wish I did kata half as sharp as this , I might actually get a big head. I agree , if you can't put the moves into real combatives and understand methodology behind the techniques it really does not matter what kata or style you practice.
koshinkai 2 years ago
Thanks for your kind comments!
NewEnglandBudo 2 years ago
I agree . Nowadays we think that technique must be done like a robot to be good . It's a complete misunderstanding of karate . Kata is encripted knowledge , not a dancing or coreography . It's a methodology of teaching and if you don't know what use for , you don't know nothing about kata and karate no matter how "beautiful" could be your performance .
FiasaPower 2 years ago
good point, form and function seem to have reversed their roles in some schools.
kempobrad 2 years ago
It's the best White Crane Kata I have seen.
SithV1 2 years ago
Hey SithV1, thanks for the kind comment and stopping by!
NewEnglandBudo 2 years ago
Were the White Crane Techniques brought from China by some of the member of the 36 families? I wondered about that becaus the 36 families settle in Kume Village in 1392 and some of them knew Chinese Boxing.
SithV1 2 years ago
That is one theory as well as the theory that Gokenki was instrumental in teaching WC at the To-De Kenkyukai in the 1920's.
NewEnglandBudo 2 years ago
talented man.
kaifinn 2 years ago
A beautiful and powerful kata, beautifully and powerfully performed. A privilege to watch: thank you for this!
GojuBob 2 years ago
Patrick is in his 40's and started training without any breaks since age 6. This kata was taught to us by Patrick McCarthy Sensei. Their flow is a bit different than this one. If you look back in the comments McCarthySensei refers to somebody from his organization performing the kata.
NewEnglandBudo 2 years ago
I wanted to thank you for posting this video. It is now my new tournament kata. I performed it at the USKA karate nationals this month and took first place against the 3rd and 4th dan men's division. I love this kata, it's so beautiful. I'll post the video of my performance as soon as i get the time. Just look for my vids. -thepongcartel
thepongcartel 2 years ago
Second peculiarity, and second question: Is the performance at regular speed? It almost looks like he's going through the majority of the moves somewhat more lightly and more relaxed than warranted (obviously, the jump kicks are the exception, because he can't pause in midair). It's as if he is making it easier to study the postures. Or is this an artifact of the white crane timing? In doing the kata on my own, I find myself slipping into a goju-ryu rhythm, with more burst and punctuation.
DaveSmeds 2 years ago
Jim, I've enjoyed looking at this clip a number of times. There are a couple of peculiarities about it. Was it part of a longer filming, i.e. was the hakutsuru section culled from a longer piece? It doesn't seem like the creator of the video was setting out to create a hakutsuru clip itself. It has no frame, i.e. he seems to step in yooi all of a sudden, and then he doesn't seem to finish -- the clip just stops at what I hope is the final move of the kata. Is this the whole thing?
DaveSmeds 2 years ago
Dave, I cut this performance from one of Patrick's dojo anniversary DVDs. Thus the lead in with the commercial. The end of the kata moved quickly into another portion of the tape. I basically plucked it out of a sequence of demos. Pluck being the verbiage of a white crane attacking.
NewEnglandBudo 2 years ago
watching his movement really bridges the gap between chinese gung fu and okinawan karate to me
jippzmcghee 3 years ago
I think the Kata and the performer were awesome... I have added this video to my favorites... Thanks
senseidougfleming 3 years ago
It looks like a made up kata to me, as I recognise so many PARTS of other Goju Kata. But ......... I trust Patrick McCarthy's depth of research and integrity not to promote a fake version ..... it still looks made up though! It's an incredibly long kata! Interesting though and skillful. Re comments about showing what the techniques are ... its a kata, not the bunkai being shown.
Colemandina 3 years ago
'Made up' doesn't mean 'fake', does it? All kata were 'made up' once! The grace and power of this are exceptional, it seems to me. I wish I could 'make up' something even half as good!
GojuBob 2 years ago
this guy looks young 4 a 7th dan
brothanews 3 years ago
Patrick is in his 40's and has trained since age 8
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
i can see several goju kata in that form , very interesting to see really good kata
gojukanboyno1 3 years ago
Yeah I agree. This is the Kume version of Hakutusuru. Kume (Formely called Kuninda) is located in Naha, Okinawa. Naha-Te is a style that developed into Goju-ryu.
SithV1 3 years ago
thank u for posting this clip. the skill is master class and presentation excellent. this widens my own training, i m happy to apply some of the movements in my teaching and own kata training . ( bow)
ccthedragon 3 years ago
I dont know whether this is a true traditional kata or made by someone later...
But, he performs it very nicely...
aiko4321 3 years ago
re the Kume Village Hakutsuru kata taught by McCarthy Sensei here is what he said to me -
'FYI, the routine is representative of the eclectic southern shaolin-based quanfa [Monk, 5-form Fist---Dragon, Tiger, Crane, etc.] taught in Matsuyama park during turn-or-the-century Okinawa - handed down to my teacher Kinjo Hiroshi.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
Jim, would it be accurate to say that there is no .."THE hakutsuru kata" as much as there are "many hakutsuru kata"?
it seems like everyone believes there is only one "secret" white crane kata.
kempobrad 3 years ago
Exactly Brad, 20 years ago there may have been one or two in the Shorin lineages. Now every ryu-ha seems to have a crane kata.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
Interesting. Meaning, that he learned it from Kinjo Hiroshi who in turn learned it from someone in Okinawa???
uchinanchu11 2 years ago
It looks a white crane direct-based kata .
FiasaPower 3 years ago
Nice Kata
Kibabrigad 3 years ago
Martial Arts is an Art. Just as two musicians may perform the same song, each performs it differently. It's the soul that's put into a rendition that makes it great. So too must Kata have soul. Learn it and make it your own.
Hakufuichi 3 years ago
its not necessarily Sensi Donahues rendition rather the same kata with different focal points, if thats what you call rendition then were thinking on the same terms. My view is that if a kata is done gracefully and flowing by one person and powerful with exagerated moves, stance, and power by another then it is still the same kata.
JeffreyFrizzell 3 years ago
also too a note that these kata are not made up the reason that they are not on the net is because most "respected" martial artists don't particularly want their work publicized. If I told you some of the lineage of my teacher and dojo you probably wouldn't believe me.
JeffreyFrizzell 3 years ago
You would be correct on that part of that but the moves aren't designed for weapons it just means that some kata weapons like sai may be appropriate to use in place of a knife hand. Also I have been training with Kyoshi Donahue for 4 years (Augest of 2004) and personally know from expirence that the techniques hurt and are fairly well hidden.
P.S thanks for the link vishakha
JeffreyFrizzell 3 years ago
Somethings else as well. I think karate was trained alongside weapons at one point.
So some of the moves in kata are for weapons.
Therefore the request to see some techniques.
I still think the kata is made up.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
Granted the origins Unadi and koryu kobudo are closely intertwined. But I must disagree with your premise are for weapons applications, but rather weapons defense. See my post below about the origin of the kata. Want to argue it's validity contact McCarthySensei here on youtube. This is Patrick's rendition of the kata taught by him.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
Hmmm. I would like to see some applications.
Any chance some could be shown?
wannabeebee 3 years ago
I could see why you would say that you think it's made up. Sometimes I see some kata and feel the same. They just seem made up. I am not saying it is, but to me, it also seems made up.
Koryuhoka 3 years ago
No, it is a version of a kata taught by Sensei Patrick McCarthy.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
Very nice.
So care to explain the techniques found with in said kata?
Does he show the techniques?
wannabeebee 3 years ago
Perhaps you should attend one of his seminars and learn the kata and the applications.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
No thanks.
I have washed my hands of all that.
I drill and repeat what I have until I can use it and keep using it.
I get more out of live grappling than dance.
Sure there are some excellent techniques in some kata.
There are also badly thought out ones in some.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
I will leave it to you guys to preserve what was once an excellent fighting method.
I apply some of the principles in my work outs.
To many pretenders out there.
I cant be bothered with them.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
Too bad, it sounds as if you were burned by some poor instruction in the past.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
you mean pretenders such as yourself wannabeebee? you can't be bothered yet you harrass people on the internet? do you have something to back up the extraordinary claims you make in every other video? i don't believe you do. i dare you to post something and stop being a ghost account that hides behind the keyboard
mazdaplz 3 years ago
I just noticed this reply today. What's this all about?
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
the user wannabeebee. he's been posting in every martial art video, calling himself an expert and then daring other people with no account to post something to show they're not losers. failing to follow his own advice. then he insulted choson ninja and shotokan karate teachers. even valetudo fighters in a valetudo video......... not only that but he verbally attacks atheists on their videos and people that support evolution like richard dawkins and disrespected a video: day that carl sagan died
mazdaplz 3 years ago
I see. Just keep it off my pages. I handled wannabeebee when he was making stupid statements several months ago. Thanks
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
wannabeebee is the a nasty troll and i can give you the links. i started following his posts after a nasty attack on myself and other atheists and liberals, he argued that i couldn't possibly be outsmarting him like i did because i was from south america. so therefore i must had been telling lies and had to be from australia or new zealand......
the worst thing is that he's proud of his ignorance
mazdaplz 3 years ago
Its all well and good having versions of kata.
But if they cant be explained and the techniques used then it is just a dance.
I know plenty of dancers.
Self defence isnt dancing.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
No use being hidden. The techniques are so well hidden in some kata they are now lost.
And what is the point of the kata if the techniques arent shown?
So it becomes just a dance.
Ask your boss if he can demonstrate a few techniques?
Personly I think he has made that kata up.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
No, it was taught to us by Sensei Patrick McCarthy and this is Donahue Sensei's rendition.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
nunca habia visto algo igual
es kata? como se llama?
soy kenshinkan de chile.
me gusto el KIME y la fluides de sus mivimientos...
me gusto el equilibrio..,
saludos y fuersa y suerte en todo
samuraipm 3 years ago
Gracias, se llama "Hakusturu de Kume Villa",
mi espanol muy mal.
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
I had no idea that this kata was done incorrectly. I vaguely remember my Sensei doing this kata once or twice, but I never been taught it yet.
SithV1 3 years ago
i think it is awesome , thanks for posting. 5 stars
patveela 3 years ago
Very nice but what is the point of kata if the techniques with in are not shown?
Then it becomes a worthless dance or for kata competition.
wannabeebee 3 years ago
That's the best version of Hakutsuru I have ever seen.
SithV1 3 years ago
That was the way that McCarthy Sensei taught it to us!
NewEnglandBudo 3 years ago
Lou san, thanks for the heads up.
Jim san, this is NOT the way I taught this kata. It looks as if it's Patrick version or interpretation of it.
mccarthysensei 3 years ago
The Kume Hakutsuru pretty I teach can be located by searching for darrinj1969
It's being performed by my student, Darrin Johnson from the DC area who learned it in 2000 from another of my American students.
mccarthysensei 3 years ago
Never seen this particular form before, but it was performed very well. Thanks for sharing this!
Uminchuu 3 years ago
Yeah, I was missing this one
natashacbk 3 years ago
Very nice!
Shodan234 3 years ago
nice!
theshadowboy607 3 years ago
Solid. Nice to see movement with meaning. Thanks!
NMCK69 3 years ago
Looks like moves from various other kata mish-mashed together.
RoccoCypress 3 years ago 2