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  • Did you hear that word for white slave? I did.

  • To let d world know about how one man has captured D minds of muslims.

    surah48;8 "those that swear fealty to(muhadmed),swear fealty to god,himself."And they are to praise him,honor him day d night. Like a dictator.

    Isn't this what they accuse christians of comparing jesus to god? This is clearly saying see muhadmed, see allah. He made himself god.

  • Hate In Colorful Attire Brainwashed from birth Drenched in dogmas Stepping into D world with closed mind Carrying my forefathers’scars Blinded by heritage, tradition, culture and religion I lose my soul’s vitality Dancing to the rhythm of the past Killing my humanity My religion is the only way God even spoke my language the other day I am D chosen one Forget D rest Oh don’t forget I reside in God’s own country BOOK TO READ-OUTGROWING FEAR. GOOGLE IT
  • You guys have one thing you fight about & that's idol worshipping as if people who worshipped idols don't get their prayers or wish answered,Roman empire was one of d largest & strongest empires in D world, Zeus(idol to muslims)answered their prayers to build such a remarkable empire or was allah behind this also?

    SURAH8 Allah'll cast terror in d hearts of infidels,strike off their heads d strike off their fingers

    xians are infidels,too according to muhad.U steal from owner&call them this?

  • Stop talking about d seas that don't meet only if u guys want us to know everything about d koran,talk about d sun,"D sun hastens to its resting -place,d sun is not allowed to overtake the moon."Surah36:37

    (this means sun moves like moon, you know allah is wrong or rather muhad is wrong)

    And about d RAIN, allah sends rain down to cleanse believers of their satan's filth to purify&strengthen their hearts."why're u standin in d rain?" "it purifies me." hahah wake up ppl, PLEASE.

  • why are d muslims,especially d arabs trying to show us d injustice of slavery by d whites? they are all HYPOCRITES & this is why.D slaves that died or lived lives sadly for their entire lives were mostly idol worshippers according to islam,so they are going to hell to be burnt again by allah becoz d imaginary prophet sent to them was not listened to according to islam. So their cry is even worse than the white man's slavery. And d africanmuslims,I've no word to call them,maybe brainwashed!!!

  • 1 more to consider from d book of lies...adam&eve according to koran says when they were expecting a baby & eve was troubled, so they cried to allah for help & immediately after getting d help turned to worship idol.Think outside d box time, even d foolish person can't do that or even a dog.Common sense tells us to always go to people who help us, until they tell us 'go away'.What a twisted story he told you muslims.

  • Surah 111: 1

    May the hands of Abu-lahab perish! May he himself

    perish! He shall be burnt in a flaming fire, and his wife".

    Is this what you guys call forgiveness by the prophet?

    And 99% of all prophets according to muhadmed came from the jewsish bible, yet how many prophets did he name from ALL communities that allah always sent his messengers b/4 allah killed everyone including babies & pregnant women..or cities destroyed didn't have them. u are brainwashed like billions of u. bye.

  • U guys are so full of with this muhadmed guy.U make even smarter than allah himself,keep repeating nonesence as evidence. 1st, why woud it take allah so long if he knew his words were corrupted by d jews&christians to send muhadmed? This slave thing u make it like working on wall.st in NYC, d question is WHY DID HE FREE THE SLAVES? You guys are shameless,why would allah tell him to marry slave girls?

  • u are very funny,if allah himself gave muhadmed slave girls then how do u even blame man, european or not.who should know better?white man or allah?

    Surah 33: 38

    Prophet, we've made lawful for you, d wives to

    whom you have granted dowries and d slave girls

    whom God has given to you as booty;

    Really i don't know how a normal human being will worship allah or god in d bible.

    Slavery has been in all culture .even muslims could've muslims as slaves when prophet was around.real brotherhood

  • can someone answer this question which was asked to me by theists they say that slaves were all captured people during war hence it is allright because that is how you are treating your enemies

  • This video is propaganda! Slavery is wrong! How dare can u excuse ur self and talk this good! By saying Ow well the muslims did it first so it was oke to do it to ! F'ck that! and for those who attack the Islam and prophet Mohammed pbh, All i have to say is explain to me u bitche's the fact then that one of the great companions being a African called bilal?I didn't see Jesus surrounded by a black companion! So shut fck up u lairs, hypocrites!Why do u call Arabs sandniggers? Who is racist?

  • @IbnQhatan The video's purpose is not trying to say that the actions of white European race were right. Slavery of any human being is wrong! This man is revealing the mistreatment of Africans by the Arab community, and explains how this mistreatment is still going on today! This video shows how slave masters could rape and have sex with their women slaves, how babies were killed, how the male slaves were castrated, etc.

  • Those dumb ass want to preach that all slavery was

    as bad as was transatlantic slavery. GO TO HELL!!!!!!!

  • All d muslim defenders say Islam put in place a process to eventually free d slaves.They say this proudly u would think its like students graduating from school. Hypocrisy in their sentence is; accordingly allah's only acceptable religion is islam, therefore allah dictated islam.

    This is what they should say,"ALLAH put in place a process to eventually free d slaves in his religion."They avoid that becos allah himself allowed slavery.

    But they just wanna hate d jews & d whites for slavery,ONLY!

  • How did Blacks in America end up with ENGLISH names? 

  • D great jesus never even mentioned freeing slaves or stopping it d he sure knew slavery or form of inequality was going on. How long are we going to be stupid?& afraid of dying & d heartless judgement by either a loving god of christians or a merciful allah burning us in hell

    Wonder how buddha will be judged by both??? & d aborigines that have existed more than 6000yrs,they have been here for 40000..allah can't even judge them becoz allah/god just created d world 6000yrs ago.This's a comedy.

  • I like it when muslims&christians&jews care for how each one treats their slaves. Why? islam says those who died whether as slaves..working till their bones come out of their skin or not, will end up in hell where allah'll give them skin upon skin to be burnt over &over..I tell u all I'll rather be a slave than that kind of punishment becoz I don't believe in allah.I can't even choose allah if I want, he has to choose me.This doesn't make sense.caring for slaves who're not muslims is hypocrisy.

  • You're not getting where I stand . If allah can instruct or, you don't know how fair allah is anymore as a muslim? In african societies they were freeing their slaves after sometimes b/4 islam came to them

    So what's new?

    But d question is allah allowing it in d first place makes him like MAN that's ignorant, period. When allah told muhadmed to fight till idol worshipping is gone but why won't allah do d same for slaves of all kind but amend it ..for whose benefit?

  • And how did allah tell prophet when to have sex with D slaves? Look, am not here for d nonesense man has put himself in order to go to a fairy tale heaven & D rest will go to hell. Every tribe in D world has engaged in slavery,some might be harsh compared to others BUTstill is man's inequality to one another. Now when some one comes along & say god or allah also allow form of slavery then allah /god is no better than ignorant man. muslims can even have muslims as slaves when muhadmed was here.

  • Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

    Leviticus 25:44-46

    Exodus 21:2-6

    Exodus 21:7-11

    Exodus 21:20-21

    Ephesians 6:51

    Timothy 6:1-2

    Luke 12:47-48

  • If you want to critcally discuss Islam, go to:

    forum09. faithfreedom. org

  • Excellent. I was born in a Muslim family who like many Muslims did not know much about the true face of Islam. I am happy to say we are proud atheists today.

  • To let all muslims know that muhadmed was wrong & had an agenda when he was fighting for islam, whether they attacked him or not, he took slaves(girls&boys &properties from d conquered) making it 'legal' to do that in all wars forever. After all, he was god's spokesman for heavenly acts...meaning that's what we should do to this day. Guess what? we are better than him now which goes to show he behaved badly. The UN will prosecute him today for THAT. Many muslims will condemn that act, too.

  • @Outgrowingfear To let you know that the man you talk about changed the world. Slavery was imported to the arab world by your European origins before Mohammad's time may peace and blessings be upon him. Mohammed's closest friends were africans and persian and even from the far east and far west. The first ever man who annouced the call for prayer "Athan" was a slave that Islam freed, his name is Bilal Alhabashi

  • ' The Cave' by Plato on YouTube is good for some reason and logic to sink into the minds of all of us .

  • And what is this Danish cartoon fight over with the muslims? What if muhadmed was living in the century that photos was invented, would he not have had his picture taken? And what would that have done anyway? make him less from allah?...Even jesus was given a kind of likeness by artists.These people should get over their barbaric religion.

  • @Outgrowingfear "Barbaric".....interestingly enough, the root of this word comes from the Roman empire in decribing north germanic tribes.

  • @saleemalbuz I don't know where u're going with your point, but I'll use primitive instead. Every word must've come from somewhere or created by man to mean something & we use d words so we can have a kind of a code in order to communicate. No matter what word we human use to describe an action, its d action that matters.

    If u're saying that white invented slavery or whatever & me calling d religion barbaric, then allah giving muhadmed slavegirls as a trophy is worst & no word to describe that.

  • @Outgrowingfear No one is going anywhere. Even the word "slave" as you probably know had to with the slavic people. White,black,yello, or red people did not invent anything but you may refer to the comments above to see biblical references to slavery and even how to have sex with them. The funny thing however is when some Americans wake up now and blame their evil acts with African slaves on Muslim.

  • @saleemalbuz Nice to know. I say same thing about d bible, judaism & christians . It's just amazing to me that de muslims will like to see themselves as different. That's a laugh. You guys're cut from d same cloth but your hypocrisy & actually being brainswashed don't allow you to see that.

    Am sure you are well versed in d koran but how do u explain allah giving muhadmed slavegirls..I hear slaves in islam is like babysitting.And yes, muslims (arab)took slaves from africa too for over a 1000yrs.

  • @Outgrowingfear to be fare, not only Africa, but in wars just like all other civilizations. The difference is however, Islam had put some stiff rules to deal with slaves with great encouragments to free them. While others such as Christians and jews had nicely altered their books to encourage enslavement of non whites such as the famous biblical story of Noah and his sons. That's why one would find many devout christians to be racist while the opposite goes for Muslims.

  • All things share the same breath-the beast,the tree,the man; the air shares its spirit with all life it supports. We the children of our forefathers must do a better job by throwing away the boulders that we are still forced to carry from the past. Evolve and be better human beings.Hold hands as human beings not as Christians ,Muslims or others.Its time to say enough to this tribal cave mentality and let our children inherit a world of love beauty and joy.SEE GOD IN EVERYTHING.TRUTH IS PATHLESS

  • @nedbless Amen to to that. Even though i am an agnostic myself (a spiritual experience could change that perhaps), it's the dóctrines of the religions that erect boundaries between people where there should be none.

  • @541515141741952 you are kind. ---Beyond nature man cannot go even in thought;above nature he cannot rise,below nature he cannot go.Man in ignorance supposed that all phenomena were produced by some intelligent power and with direct reference to him.God is a thought God is an idea.But its reference is to something that transcends all thinking.ITS BETTER to see GOD IN EVERYTHING THAN TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.

  • @nedbless Thanks for your reply. Peace.

  • @nedbless Well said.

  • prophet copied the bible and said god of israel chose him. he didn't even do a good job, he mixed up the stories of saul and gideon armies and billion of worshippers can't see the big LIE in their faces.

    And why did he tell his followers to read the bible, what the muslims now are saying it's not true story. it's like your professor wants you to read a bad theory for the exams.

    the mayans must have known islam b/4 they built their society 5000yrs b/4 muhadmed encouraged learning...wow, wow!!!

  • As a british muslim of pakistani origin this makes my heart hurt. God bless all people. Black white or brown skin does not matter to me. A human being was not born to be a slave. War is evil.

    For what its worth May God bless all that have suffered through out our existence.

    Past , Present and Future.

    Amen

  • @mobiline its because your God... made it lawful in the first place thats why all this bullshit is happening.

  • @007agentmr Easy my friend.Calm down.

  • Respond to this video...  @9:41

  • @mobiline You are a good person.What the world needs is more of you.

  • 'Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme'---surah-2:193

    Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal Sternly with them.. Surah--66:7

    Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly With them. Surah--9:121

    Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of God... Surah---9:41

    HOW DO BLAME SUCIDE BOMMBERS WHEN MUHADMED SAID THIS. tell me please.

  • @Outgrowingfear .Islam is an EVIL cult,period.

    I see 'mobiline ' who seems very sincere person/muslim who realize it is bad to have slaves, to me he is NOT very sincere to Islam, because Mohammad himself had slaves, he only freed them when slave converted to Islam. Muslims like 'mobiline 'are good muslims until they start following Islam to the latter, then their action are evil. see w ww.thereligionofpeace[.]com

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  • Recycled LIE

    Thessalonians chapter 4:vs17

    Then WE which are alive & remain shall be caught up

    Together with them in d clouds to meet d Lord

    In d air:&so shall we ever be with d Lord.

    Surah 70;1 (koran)

    THEY think d Day of Judgment is far off:

    but we see it near at hand..

    muhadmed who came like 500 years after d statement used d same trick on d people.

    prophet didn't know me, he thot it will happen to THEY, but am still breathing and u and u and 7billion pple.pple can't THINK.

  • Surah 33: 38...

    Prophet, we have made lawful for you, the wives to

    whom you have granted dowries and the SLAVE GIRLS

    whom God has given to you as BOOTY; the daughters of

    your paternal and maternal uncles and of your paternal

    and maternal aunts who fled with you;

    How do u expect muslims not to follow Him???

  • If all muslims want to emulate the one true allah by examples of muhadmed, then they should all have slaves NOW.

  • ABOUT SLAVERY

    Muslims(arab) and whites(christians) took slaves from africa for centuries and they were supposed to be better informed by the true creator. They even took themselves as slaves. And where would all the slaves end up that were not muslims?

    u can go to globetrekker buy d dvd and EDUCATE YOURSELF..

  • ABOUT PRIDE

    If god created the world for millions of yrs and everyone was not worshipping him the right way...why would it take him only 1500yrs ago to send muhadmed????

  • @Outgrowingfear May the Great Spirit walk with you. We are the ones we've been waiting for.

  • So all the so-called black people(MUSLIMS) trying to make the whites look evil and hateful. They should check their own hate against their so-called BLACK BROTHERS & SISTERS who are not muslims. I thought they fought against skin color, Now they are fighting each other becoz of religion.very funny.D price is worst than d whites racism, bros&sis will burn forever.

    This is when I say man is blind, yet he thinks he can see through the illusion and hate he now cherishes as a 'compassionate' goal.

  • GOOD EXAMPLE ABOUT FEAR OF HELL

    The blacks in d US will be a good way to say this. They fought d whites for freedom & like in every group were divided as per religion. Malcome X & martin luther jr. One,a muslim, d other, a christian. Goal, to free all blacks. They both achieved that so far. Now here comes the question I ask. In d afterlife, malcome X goes to paradise, martin to hell. And that goes for martin too according to his christian faith. To me. They 'hated' each other.

  • Muslim got many sex slaves from africa. Mohammad raped many. Allah gave his blessing to rape of war captives and slaves. Nice

  • Arabs are Kaffirs and the children of Abu Jahl Haram wallahi Haram ya Arab shuf hada ya Muslimeeen Allahu Aleeeeeeeeeem.

    Jihad was only for Slavery not for the Upliftment of the africans and to bring Righteousness to africa.

    Arabs are weak thats why they could not inslave the Abyssinians or the King of Axum.

  • Thank you for posting this.

  • Is it wrong that I giggled when I heard there was 112 million dead?

  • india euro

    fuckup africa

    bud never cant kill the big spirit

    by patiance black rise soon

  • Abeed means one with impeccable adaab,in other words Abeed is a person with very good manners. manners to aspire to so how culd it b that black people wer treated bad by Muslims.

    Islam says we are all equal and the west have darwins theory.

    your a lying basterd.

  • @bigpurple100, go lie to someone else.

    Of course "abeed" means "slaves."

    Maybe you can tell me what "zurga" means. "Smart people?"

    And "Kutile al-Yahood." "Be respectful of Jews?"

  • PROOF THAT THE USA PRISON SYSTEM IS A LOOP HOLE FOR SLAVERY:

    Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

    Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime

  • This heartbreaking subject of the Arab Muslim Slave Trade is all too often never discussed.

    It was much worse than the Atlantic Slave Trade ever was in terms of sheer numbers the fact that at least five Arab Muslim countries only made slavery illegal in the mid to late 20th century and there being no verses or in the Qur'an where slavery is explicitly proscribed.

    Thank you for the informative video.

  • Anti-whites speak ONLY of the evil white man and slavery. Anti-whites don't believe blacks or other non-whites are responsible for their actions. Anti-whites don't insist on massive non-black immigration and integration into every black nation and ONLY black nations to make up for historical black slavery.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-WHITE.

  • please africa

    i see your people rob

    rape people please negros

    died 1500 years ago

  • When man versus man engages in a barbaric slavery, we say, hey they are ignorant. But when so called god or allah allowed slavery, what do we say? allah/god is ignorant, too. That will be YES. Muslims are even saying d arabs reformed slavery. That's a big laugh, what they are saying is they REformed their allah. Now if they can think well, that means allah doesn't know best. This is d most ridiculous way to defend a religion of ignorance & jealousy...

  • You must think you are talking to a baby. You can allow yourself to be lied to, not me.1st don't ever pray for me, Your hypocritical prayer. Who says the jews and arabs know what they are talking about. You are all hypocrites and brainwashed. Even if you have your history in your head, your holy book is full of taking slaves and wiping out all idol worshippers and leaving your father or anyone that don't believe in islam. Read 'outgrowing fear.' You people are lame!!!

  • In Sudan there is no Arab against African but Muslim agianst none muslim. western media are making exagirations.

  • On islamic slavery of captured european christians, read the excellent (and very cheap) White Gold: The Extraordinary Story of Thomas Pellow and North Africa's One Million European Slaves by Giles Milton." It was ghastly, and it was by force that was ended.

  • @thegreatfearblog The Romans and Greeks (EUROPEANS) were some of the first slave traders.

  • @Harunrasheed05 Your grip on History is slight.

  • @thegreatfearblog Actually the Jews held slaves before the Romans. Leviticus 25:44-46

  • @Harunrasheed05 First, decide if you're talking about trade, or just having slaves. Man has had slaves from before written history began, so there's no way of knowing when it began exacly. If you're talking about trading slaves as a commodity, from one tribe or nation to another, I would say that is as old as civilized Egypt. Waaaay before Leviticus was written.

  • @thegreatfearblog The point is you are blaming Islam for an age old universal problem which is both bigoted and ignorant on your behalf.

  • @Harunrasheed05 I'm blaming islam for the creation of slavery? Could you quote to where I wrote that please? As for being bigoted towards islam, I stand guilty as charged. I know islam to be the worst catastrophe that ever fell upon africa, by very far, and one of the worse to fall upon humanity in general.

  • @thegreatfearblog

    ANGLO/CHRISTIAN OPPRESSION IN THE CONGO (White King Red Rubber Black Death)

    watch?v=btzq029zqgY

  • @Harunrasheed05 The Romans and Greeks flourished in different times.Greeks never marched in western europe.It were the romans that enslaved the Gauls and Germanic peoples they conquered south over the river rhine.

    Stay factual

  • @Frankie3112Nld Why did you bring Western Europe into it? And i never made time periods an Issue. The academic point I firmly established is that Europeans (Romans and Greeks specifically) have a longer history of slave trading than Muslims and the extended that tradition to the shores of America.

  • @Harunrasheed05 Because Greeks and romans are not the same as the europeans that brought black slaves to america.I had to correct you there since you seem to regard both the same which is actually not.So it did not 'extend to america'.You can not compare apples with peers.

    

  • @Frankie3112Nld The subject is slavery not America and Europeans have always been major slave traders even before Islam was established so no European has the moral credentials to accuse anyone else of slavery. Also using your logic may I point out that the Arabs who established Islam in Arabia proceeded the Arabs who established slavery they were not the same Arabs as the Greeks and Romans were not the same Europeans.

  • @Harunrasheed05 Same arabs.What does abd-allah means ..right slave of allah.abdi was what mohammed or the hadith called black slaves.1400 years of muslim slavery, nothing compared to so called 'western' instigated slavery.

  • @Frankie3112Nld There is no reference to the word Abd being used as Westerners use the word nigger or the White Africans use the word kafir to refer to Blacks. Muhammad ordered Arabs leader even if he was Black. Adding to this the type of slavery that existed in America was harsher and different than the slavery in Arabia or anywhere else in the world. You people wouldn't even allow non-Whites to use the same toilet as recently as the 70's.

  • @Harunrasheed05 I guess you did not even listen to the man in the clip.140.000.000 victims against the 20.000.000 white people are honest about it but you're afraid proven wrong which is already the case.Blacks could have no wive and children they were castrated not in the U.S.And b.t.w. you forget the milions of irish slaves in the U.S. prior the african slave trade.You now Sudan is still a powder keg because of slavery brought by mohammed.H

    Factual history.

    Grow up and study some more

  • @Frankie3112N The man did not count the Blacks that were lynched and murdered after slavery such as Emmit Till, Medgar Evers, Addie Mae Collins, Cynthia Wesley, Carole Robertson, Denise McNair, Martin Luther King, ect...It also goes to mention that America has more Blacks incarcerated NOW than it had in slavery at its peak. The Islamic party in Sudan is not in power it is ran by Hassan Turabi the man in power now Omar Bashir represents a secular party so it is not an Islamic state UNRREFUTABLE!

  • @Harunrasheed05 no deining what you say..what I think is you're somewhat simple minded.the fact you don't seem to take into account what Islam is responsible for.You focus on the western slavery and totally disregard the facts mentioned in this video.That behavior disqualifies you from any objective and serious conversation.

    You be like that, I don't care.

    You won't gain anything this way, but hey.You probably know what's best for you.

  • @Franki You keep comparing Western slavery and what happened in the time of the prophet as though thy are comparable. The Prophet never invaded Africa and took hostages for 400 years nor did he ever command it that is WESTERN SLAVERY. The Prophet never set up laws of racial segregation to the point Blacks and Whites could not eat together as a matter of fact according to Islam (not Arab culture which you are confusing purposely with Islam), a slave had to eat at the same table with his "master."

  • @Harunrasheed05So do you my friend.read.You compare lynching and all that with the 140 MILION casualties. Mohammed started that.ignorant man you..Zanzibar was created by mohammed and his followers.History.Is more relevant than what your imam teaches you.and how is it that many Indonesian and paki woman get beheaded in saudi arabia for not preparing a meal right or when she's raped.to this day muslims have slaves.Wake up little thinker.

  • @Frankie3112Nld 140 MILION Rofl! Muhammad never invaded Africa as a matter of fact the same year Muhammad was born an emissary of Ethiopia named Abraha who had conquered Yemen in the name of Africa attacked the Kaba. Africa was a powerful country in Muhammad's time Najashi the King of Ethiopia protected the Muslims from the pagan Arabs and the pagan Arabs were powerless against him this is ll recorded history.

    Saudi Arabia was set up by the their British and American allies not by Islam.

  • @Harunrasheed05 Still not answering me..oh well.Prove me right, thanks.

    You keep denying facts.You do that and have fun with that.

    But remember this..Beware of shaitan who has kidnapped islam with one purpose only total slavery over mankind.That means you as well.

    Don't defend a liar and his lies.

  • @Frankie3112Nld I do not have to answer non-facts. Who told you Muhammad invaded Africa? Even a 5th grader knows better. Why are there more Black men in American prison in 2011 than there were in slavery in 1850? That's a legitimate question son.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Please Google: the Arab Slave Trade, the abolition of slavery timeline then the Islamic view of slavery. This is how late the Muslim countries abolished this inhumane practice: 1952 Qatar, 1962 Saudi Arabia, 1962 Yemen, 1963 UAE, 1970 Oman & 1981 Mauritania. Mohammed himself was a slave owner and trader.

    wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_time­line

    wiki/Arab_slave_trade

    If you don't like wiki there are plenty of other sources which confirm the duration, numbers, brutality.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    He is talking about slavery not lynchings. Compare like for like slavery for slavery. Black in American prison have nothing to do with the subject. Blacks in the US and the West enjoy better laws and freedoms than they do in any Muslim country in fact people generally do. You are making a strawman argument. Stay on topic. No Muslim country can compare human rights, equality, justice, tolerance, democracy to any Western one objectively and win ever.

  • @Frankie3112Nld

    Arabs/Muslims remain in a situation of denial of the most basic facts and from my experience don't take responsibility or ownership of what is pointed out often preferring to lay the blame elsewhere or use strawman arguments.

    Much of the blame lays with their culture and religion as they believe that its superior to point out faults would imply that their religion and culture is not superior. That's why the Arab Muslim world will remain retarded.

  • @Frankie3112Nld

    He's trying to strawman me by denying that there was an Arab Muslim slave trade, by mitigating for it due to paganism and trying to equate the US prison population to being slavery plus he's mentioning racism and discrimination in the US as if that has anything to do with the facts.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies that is exactly what the problem of islam is.An ideology NOT a religion.Because of the TOTAL lack of spirituality and self recognition and criticism of self.

    Forget about him.No hope for people with that kind of mind state.

    God bless

  • @Harunrasheed05 And kafir means 'unbeliever' ..an arab word.you don't even know you're own religion or the religion of the arabs for that matter.Don't speak non sense man!Abdi or abid means black slave in arab.

    Buy a book or two and read, READ.You missed out on a lot.Like I said before, if you don't know about the subject you should not even speak on it.

  • Kafir is indeed and Arab word now explain why Christian South Africans use it as a derogatory slur against all Blacks. Arabs have many religions do you think Paula Abdul is Muslim? The word for slave is Abd but the word for Black in Arabic is Aswad Saudi is a derivative of the word aswad which means Black. Saudi Arabia = Black Arabia. I was raised in what Obama labelled The Corridor of Shame where Blacks are given inferior education so for give my semi literacy it results from USA racism. :)

  • @Harunrasheed05

    The word 'Kuffir/Kufr' was borrowed by the South Africans as a perjorative word to describe the Black Africans which were considered non-believers according to the early colonialists. It was borrowed from the Arabic, as you know many of the South African 'Malays' were slaves/indentured workers from the Dutch East India Company.

    As for Paula Abdul she's Jewish what exactly does that point have to do with the video. The fact is Islam is the prevalent 'faith' in the Arab world.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Look at when slavery was abolished in the West and compare in to the Muslim countries. Compare equality, justice, democratic institutions, democratic institutions mechanisms for recourse against any Western country and the Muslim country will lose every time. You are using strawman arguments from what I can see. Racism exists in most countries in the West there is recourse, look how significant minorities are treated in Arab Muslim states then compare that to the West

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies Who are you kidding? When slavery was abolished in the West (a uniquely brutal and racist slavery may I add) you replaced it wit segregation, Jim Crow, glass ceilings and the largest demographic of incarcerated Blacks (slaves) in the history of the world.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    The video is about SLAVERY not racism/discriminationwhich is is infinitely worse in Muslim countries. At least in the West racism is legislated against, there are mechanisms for recourse. Using strawman arguments about incarceration rates are as relevant as me bringing up this like democracy, gender equality, human rights, democratic institution/mechanism, minority rights: gays, women, religious freedom in the Muslims worse all of which are objectively worse than in the West.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Are you stupid this is about SLAVERY.

    Facts:

    The Islamic slave trade took MORE slaves than the Atlantic SlaveTrade ever did.

    Islamic countries where the last to make slavery illegal, five of which were in the late 20th century

    The West made slavery illegal hundreds of years before the Islamic world.

    People in prisons are not slaves in the West by any stretch of the imagination.

    Racism exists in all societies but at least in the West the are laws and recourse.

    You've failed.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies No I am not a blond. There was no "Islamic" slave trade. The Muslim inherited thev Arab slave situation that began with the pagan, Jewish and Christian Arabs and tried to eradicate it but many Arabs still clung to slavery as they practiced it in times of ignorance. Having said that Blacks were not treated as badly in Arabia or anywhere else as they are targeted and treated today by the American justice system which denies Black men of freedom via racially biased laws.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Sorry I shouldn't have called you "stupid"

    FACTS:

    1 There was a Arab Muslim Slave Trade

    2 That slave trade took more slaves than the Atlantic Slave Trade ever did.

    3 The Atlantic Slave Trade ended before the Arab Muslim Slave Trade

    4 Muslim countries were the last to abolish slavery 5 of which were in the mid to late 20th century

    5 Prisons are not slavery again this is a fact. Your denial, mitigation, ref-raming definitions don't change these facts no matter how hard you try.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies

    And I am sorry your blond.

    1. Islam unlike Christianity ans Judaism and Western culture not only tried to alleviate slavery but the racism that went with it.

    2. More Blacks are incarcerated due to biased laws in America than were enslaved in America and Arabia COMBINED.

    3. The Atlantic slave trade ended leaving millions of Blacks stranded in a land of segregation and discrimination that still exist today.

    4. Muslim countries were colonies.

    5. yes prison is slavery

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Don't be sorry at least I'm not and never will be an Arab or Muslim

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SLAVERY NOT PRISON. END OF DISCUSSION!

    You weren't colonies during the SLAVE TRADE!

    You are dumb.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies And I proved that Prison is slavery by the 13th amendment you obviously are not an American or you are an ignorant American because the U.S. constitution allows for prisoners to be used as slaves. The effects of colonialism last in Muslim and non-Muslims today a good example is the D.R. Congo where they still cut off hands for fun just like good old King Leopold of Belgium taught them. And may I also add the Congo (A Christian country) is the largest slave trader in Africa

  • @Harunrasheed05 Muhammad the filthy one was a slave owner and slave trader himself.

    Muhammad was a white man who sold black slaves at a lesser value than the white ones.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    You've " proved slavery is prison =================== cite the dictionary??

    Big claims require BIG PROOF

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies The USA is not based on prison it is based on the U.S. constitution that allows slavery as punishment for a crime.

    Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

    Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT AS PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME..... shall exist within the United States

  • @Harunrasheed05 I meant the USA is not based on the dictionary. 

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Prison is not slavery.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies Why do you think prison is not slavery when the 13th amendment clearly allows slavery for punishment of a crime please elaborate and give me your understanding of:

    Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

    Section 1 ..SLAVERY nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT AS PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME... shall exist within the United States,

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Pick up a dictionary and look up the definition of "slavery" you are embarrassing, jeez.. The US has abolished slavery long long before the Islamic world ever did. How can something that has been abolished be punishment for a crime? You fail.

    1865, the 13th amendment. Slave trade illegal in 1808

    Slavery was officially abolished in the US with the ratification of the 13th amendment on December 6, 1865.

    Read the Bill of Rights.

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies

    Slavery

    From Wikipedia,

    Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property and are forced to work.

    Prison farm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A prison farm is a large correctional facility where penal labor convicts are put to economical use in a 'farm', usually for manual labour, largely in open air, such as in AGRICULTURE.... 13th Amendment . slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME.

    (Explain the text )

  • @Harunrasheed05

    I don't need to false premise.

    There's no English dictionary in the world (that I know of) that defines slavery as prison.

    You cite the 13th Amendment in the same 13th Amendment it makes slavery illegal and you ignore the bill of rights.

    "1865, the 13th amendment. Slave trade illegal in 1808

    Slavery was officially abolished in the US with the ratification of the 13th amendment on December 6, 1865."

    You cite a document that disproves your point, ignore a dictionary and the BOR

  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies

    You seem little on edge and purposely ignoring my sincere question so I will repeat exactly what does it me by:

    "EXCEPT as a PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME"

    You seem to be dodging this like a bullet.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    1. You cited the 13th Amendment. Do you understand English or even the document you cited when trying to call prison slavery. The very SAME document banned it.

    2. Ever heard of the Bill of Rights?

    3. Prison never has been nor will it ever be defined as slavery not in any dictionary. Only in your mind and moreover citing the same document disproves your very own argumentation.

    Face it you've failed.

  • @Harunrasheed05 From the Free Merriam-Webster ... Definition of PRISON 1 : a state of confinement or captivity Definition of SLAVERY 1 : drudgery, toil It is sad you think I am ignorant simply because I am not White even though Western slavery is the only captivity in history that forbade the captive to read. Are you saying slavery is not CAPTIVITY as the definition of Prison states or are you saying prison is not DRUDGERY and TOIL as the definition of slavery entails? TRY TO ANSWER.
  • @ByTheShortAndCurlies Muslims still have black slaves in Mauritania and Muslims didn't want to sign the anti-slavery UN ACT. Because Islam is a backward cult

  • @Harunrasheed05 Blacks in the USA, which I am not an American, have a better life than blacks in many Arabic countries. In Countries like Iraq Arabs STILL call blacks "abts" or slaves today.

    Countries like Mauritania had black slaves just in recent years because Islam is a filthy backward cult and Muhamamad was possessed by Shaytan twice.

  • @Harunrasheed05 uh...Muslims also have prisons...so are those people slaves also? Not counting the REAL slaves that Muslims have in Mauritania and had in the Sudan.

  • @LauraDurkay Blacks in the Sudan have their own country now and the largest slave trade in the world exist in Thailand a Buddhist country that provides sex slaves for WESTERNERS.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    fact

    1. Blacks are still treated like 2nd hand citizens in many Muslim countries and you can see it here on Youtube.

    2. Muhammad himself was a slave trader and slave owner.

    3. Blacks have it better in the USA than in most Islamic countries.

    4. prisons are better than the prisons in Muslim countries.

    5. Muslims ALSO have prisons PLUS slavery in some countries.

    6. In some countries black people are called ABT, which means SLAVE.

    7. Many Muslims stil had black slaves

  • @LauraDurkay

    1. Blacks are still treated as second classed citizens in America see the video on youtube called michelle alexander the new jim crow watch?v=IgM5NAq6cGI

    2. George Washington and Thomas Jeffereson were also slave traders the difference between them and Muhammad pbuh is Muhammad never invaded a foreign land and Muhammad freed more than 1000 slaves personally.

    3. America has more Blacks in prison than all Muslim countries combined.

    4. ?

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Slavery and discrimination are not the same thing nor is racism for that matter no matter how hard you try to redefine it, it will never be slavery.

    That fact and the point is that in the West we got rid of slavery well before the Islamic world.

    Comparing how blacks are treated in the West, even the US is a joke in comparison to the Islamic world. Full rights /legal protection unlike in much of the Islamic world.

    Human rights are generally non-existent in the Islamic world.

  • @LauraDurkay

    6. I wish I would have been called abd instead of nigger.

    7. Most Black Americans live below the poverty level in the USA and have a 10 year shorter life expectancy than Whites.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    A mixed race American is the President of the US ........... stop strawmanning yourself.=!

  • @Harunrasheed05

    There's no English dictionary where prisons are defined as slavery.

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Google the Abolishment of Slavery timeline - you'll see as I've shown you that slavery in at least five Arab/Muslim countries only became outlawed in the 50's,60's,70's and 80's.

    There is not a single aya or surah in your Qur'an that proscribes slavery explicitly.

    Trying to make segregation slavery as you are prisons fails you argument is null and void. You have no case. As for glass ceilings Obama is a half-black.

    Look at racism/sexism/discrimination in the Muslim world

  • @Harunrasheed05

    Arab Muslim slave trading was worse at least in the US and West they weren't castrated as the norm and the offspring killed. Just look at the Arab Muslim body count. As for Mohammed, he may of been a man of his time but a paradigm for humanity that committed genocide, had sex with a nine year old, slave owner/trader, murderer, warlord is not a virtuous

  • Anyone with a working brain will tell u that your prophet stole a religion of d jews & imposed it on d arabs thru wars.

    by the way, tell him to steal something worthwhile next time, like copying bubbha instead of a hate filled bible.

    He and all the muslims can go to your illusory paradise filled with virgins. What a religion? there are so many loving, peaceful religions in the world. Your koran and bible are the worst and you are proud of it. you all should be ashamed...

  • @Outgrowingfear STOLE? LOL, Judaism and Islam are both religions of God. Muhammad didn't steal anything, because it IS his as well.

    Muhammad didn't spread the religion of Islam through wars, the enemy wanted to fight the Muslim army and when the Muslims won, they freed all the people that were getting beaten by the Government. The people WANTED the Muslims to rescue them and they converted when they were rescued. You are misunderstood I pray for you.

  • You don't know who you are talking to. You think becos you hate somebody you are better? Who cares if you hate the whole world. Show how ignorant you are & don't know it. Now that you 'hate' my kind & all d people you hate, what has it done for you, ooh 'superior man? Who is taking sides here, who says d jews are better & you muslims( shows you are not black...arab man) are better as well. Your allah or jesus' god are slaver lovers & u guys think u know love or how d world came about. ha. ha ha!

  • Thumbs up, if u alternated thumbs up/down in Thelamanadult's shitty islam-preaching - simply to fuck up hes raghead message ^^

  • Arab Muslims = slavers and racists?

    European Christians = slavers and racists?

    How ironic.

  • And lastly, the so-arab muslims with the best & allahly-directed koran enslaved africans for over 700 years. these were the people back then that had d koran to guide them and yet...They wanted to help the blacks, just like the white christians. I've d koran, & was born into a muslim family, stopped at 12yrs when an arab prophet or allah says that i should disown my cousin or son or father who is not muslim. d book is full of hate. don't eat with this or that, yet my teacher is not a muslim.

  • You make it sound like he had no choice but to kill the parents of the girls. That arguement is so lame. Truth does not demand violence. I don't buy the bible too. You guys are the same, hypocrites. who says you guys know anything about good manner or love or compassion. ' hey, am a prophet of allah & if you don't leave your wooden gods i will kill you and 'save' your girls, hahaha...allah wants me to protect them from bad people.' do you guys hear yourselves with foolish logic coming from you

  • you're defending what can't and shouldn't be defended by any normal human being.You glorify wars & bloodshed. I'm sure you won't want to force your religion on anyone in this 21st century becos its bad & controlling, but you all support a prophet of god that did that & now you say war is war. it doesn't make sense. Islam is to eradicate all forms of idol worshipping, how does that sound? you're talking from the point view of fear and not knowing it. read this OUTGROWING FEAR,BOOK. freeyourmind

  • i know all this. sorry i posted the remark to you...i was trying to get it to the other guy. i wrote a book on this issue called...outgrowing fear-cease drinking from the well. only a fool, brainwashed person won't agree with you.sorry again.

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  • should this not also say jews and slavery ?????

  • @Dawahcorp

    Please, let me thank you for the merriment you provided me - THANKS!.

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    Just because someone disagrees with your point of view does not necessarily mean that they are in the wrong - perhaps the error lies with YOU?

    .

    MOHAMMED did do some good BUT his behaviour, his crimes & his wickedness were more DEMONIC than angelic & he cannot logically be considered good never mind a holy prophet.

    .

    Mohammed robbed/shagged/killed - HE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN PARADISE lest he would have been virtuous.

  • @tarquinfarquhar you seem to be very knowledgeable about the prophet and his flawless character. bravo. first, i don't argue back and forth like the rest of your people. First, if allah is great and merciful and all good and prophet was chosen and given the true words of allan, why didn't allah tell him that slavery of any form was no good? Why did the good prophet too go to wars only to get slave girls as bounty from allah.

  • @TheIamanadult MOHAMMED kept slaves ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED killed hundreds ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED robbed hundreds ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED lied frequently ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED abused blacks ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED abused women ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED abused gays ergo he was FLAWED. . MOHAMMED shagged a child ergo he was FLAWED. . In the UK a legal precedent was set establishing that ISLAM is WICKED & VICIOUS. . Please stop supporting PAEDOPHILES!!
  • @TheIamanadult So you think that the prophet should've killed all the women and children of his enemies? or just leave them on their wrecked home to thieves and robbers and hunger? is that what you're implying?

    Or maybe you think he should've treated his enemies family as his own and act like nothing happened? right? kill all the men and act as if nothing happened?

    war is cruel. the world is cruel. but at least Muhammad is kind enough not to kill his enemies children and women

  • @tarquinfarquhar LoL! You need medication. Well since you will not answer my questions about Davids murders or women and the contents of the caravans I must say goodbye. :)

  • @tarquinfarquhar Name calling? So you admit he never robbed caravans good. Was king David sex crazed he had more wives than Muhammad p and he killed Uriah to steal his wife. David also killed more people.

  • @tarquinfarquhar shouldn't call you an idiot. sorry. i felt bad about that.

    i'm pretty sure europeans killed more people than muslims did. stalin, hitler, mussolini, european colonization against native american, holy roman empire 30 years war, soviet war and soviet famine, british famine against india, germany, portuguese, spanish, dutch, french and american colonization and slavery on africa, south america and asian countries etc

    tell me one major war besides WW1 that islam were involved in

  • @ahmadaz96001 " tell me one major war besides WW1 that Islam were involved in.." Oh! Ya!! go to YouTube and type in" w ww.tellthechildrenthetruth[.]c­om also see w ww.thereligionofpeace[.]com In a book by historian William Durant, " History of Civilization" He tell us that 80 million Hindus were killed by muslims,from the first time the barbarian invaders entered India till 1948 at the partition of India. During the Iraq v Iran war 1.5 million muslims were killed. Islam is EVIL. Period.

  • @simba1936 You just told me a big fat lie

    William Durant in his book History of Civilization never estimated the casualties of Hindus

    The 80 million figure came from Kishori Saran Lal, a Hindu himself. He is the only person who ever came out with an actual figure of Hindus killed by Muslims

    Name me ONE historian that supported the 80 million death figure, OR ever came close to that, OR ANY historians that actually did estimated an actual figure of the casualties

    People lie. Grow up

  • @tarquinfarquhar You did not answer my question; what was in the Caravans you say Muhammad p robbed?

  • @tarquinfarquhar where's the link to the full article then? or the writer's??. mind to give it to me? or you can't give it cause it doesn't exist?

    i googled raphael moore - NO RESULT OF ANY ARTICLE NOR WRITER WITH SUCH NAME

    if I say u're an idiot in certain websites, and cited my grandpa as the reference, would that count as u're really an idiot??

    who the hell is raphael moore?? which college did he went to? what's his qualification? is he a he or a she?? is he a hobo? or a tramp?

  • @tarquinfarquhar I specifically referred to the website u gave. and if u're not an idiot u could clearly see how they made serious factual errors

    - they claim muslims were responsible for every slave trade happened in africa, in reality europeans were the only one responsible for trans-atlantic slave trade

    they also made references to a book that didn't even exist

    - raphael moore history of asia minor <- dont exist

    that specific website you gave - it's for stupid people and idiots. how sad...

  • Sex crazed? Muhammad was married to a woman 15 years his senior for 25 years and compared to King David Muhammad ( p) was a virgin. Mass murdering? I suppose you are talking about the alleged murder of 300? 600? or 900 Jews? the numbers are inconsistent and the story is not in the Koran. Lying, have you read Romans 3:7?? Robbing? Are you referring to Abu Sufyans caravans that he used to transfer the goods he stole fro Muslims during the 13 years they were passive?

  • @tarquinfarquhar the book cites several samples of estimated death rates anywhere from 3%-400%. there's no way of knowing the actual death rate for every slave arrived so several samples are provided on the book.

    the websites u gave made factual error

    -if 14milx5=70 million enslaved, then they put the total 120 million death from nowhere?

    -50 million death by raphael moore - history of asia minor- the book didn't even exist? is made up?

    now that easily eliminates 100 million death?

    wth? lies?

  • @tarquinfarquhar Ralph Austen has variously estimated that several million blacks were taken as slaves across the Sahara between the seventh and the late nineteenth centuries (one estimate was nearly 9.4 million gross) given sample mortality rate - 3% up to 400% death estimates - anywhere from 600k - 40 millions The Trans-Saharan Slave Trade By John Wrig