Presidential Forum on Faith, Values & Poverty (1 of 6)

[chuckinla]

But Bad Hillary can't go away. You have to have the Hillary who says Obama is "elitist" and "demeaning," and you have to keep running ads that portray him as the guy who won't be able to protect us from the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, long lines at the gas pump, Osama bin Laden or ringing telephones.

And speaking of Osama bin Laden, isn't he a Muslim? And didn't Bad Hillary say Obama was not a Muslim "as far as I know"? Keep up that subtle stuff. It is gold

Pillary is a pig!!!

[GraceGuitars]

John Edwards: "I believe in evolution"

Questioner: "so are the millions who don't wrong?"

John Edwards: "no"

Me: "hmm........"

My conclusion: John Edwards wants to please everybody - i.e. not man enough to stand for what he supposedly "believes" in. You can't have your cake and eat it too, senator.

[soyoucantalk]

The make-up done for this is very bad. Edwards looks red/pink/orange as did Obama.

[resanime]

Surely not all Christians hate poor people, and surely not all Christians are so dumb to believe that God blew up the Earth balloon 4000 years ago. I think people have just gotten dumber.

[SonicBoomC98]

And what kind of Christian kicks someone out of their orginization just because they consider them an enviromentalist or because they support a few Democratic social programs? How Christian are the Evangelicals to do something like that? They're more of a political movement than a religious one anyway if not they wouldn't have such a strict line on what politics one can support.

[SonicBoomC98]

If I told someone who is not from this country and knows nothing about our system, " we have two parties, one party is the religious party. One party is the party of Civil Rights, Woman's Rights, Animal Rights, and the Enviroment," that person would say " so what about the other party."

[SonicBoomC98]

No one has the right to tell anyone else they're faith or belief is not strong enouch because everyone has thier own walk with God to take. You can't say how close a relationsip I have or am trying to have just because you know some of the sins I've committed, and I don't know yours. Everyone sins, so no one is in my position to condem anyone else. I'm a black man from the south, so I know a lot about dealing with really religious people and sometimes overly-religious people.

[SonicBoomC98]

Not all Republicans are Christians and not all really believe in God like they say they do. Heck people in the Klan and Neo-Nazi groups and those who tried to get in the way of Civil Rights and Women's Rights claimed to be Republican Christians. Slave Owners claimed to be Christians as well. So, like I said, no one person or party has the right to say they have faith and someone else doesn't.

[SonicBoomC98]

And half these people who claim we need more charity and less social programs probably don't even care about giving to charity. IF you can try to regulate morality, why can't someone else try to regulate civil rights, fair treatment of workers, and social/economical upliftment. So, I guess people were supposed to wait for charity to solve segregration and unfair treatment of workers?

[SonicBoomC98]

I'm going to say something I uased to hate for people to say "you can't legislate morality." You can't make someone be Christian by law, and you can't make someone not have pre-marital sex by law. So, this idea that Democrats can't be Christians because they don't pass laws to make the Bible and it's teaching the law of the land is just crazy. Actually now that I think about it, it would be unGodly because God wants you to serve him willingly not because someone made you.

[SonicBoomC98]

And if we did that we would be no better than these other countries we claim are so evil that make Islam the only accepted lifestyle.

[SonicBoomC98]

I hate to say this but the Evangelicals are exactly the reason why we need the seperation of church in state. We need to keep certain people from taking over and telling everyone else how to be a Christian. Ofcourse it has been abused. The basis of it is not to keep government and religion completely seperate but to keep one from controlling the other. The whole idea of not being able to were religious symbols to work or small groups not being allowed to pray if they want to is just crazy.

[DustinKoffman]

The Christian Church is already politicized since the creation of the Moral Majority. Not going away. And why should it? You wrote, "We need to keep certain people from taking over ...? Hmmmm .. sounds a tad autocratic, no?

[SonicBoomC98]

No one has the right to tell anyone else they're faith or belief is not strong enouch because everyone has thier own walk with God to take. You can't say how close a relationsip I have or am trying to have just because you know some of the sins I've committed, and I don't know yours. Everyone sins, so no one is in my position to condem anyone else.

[SonicBoomC98]

I find it funny when any one person or group feels they've cornered the market on faith or morality. I'm a religious person myself, and I personally hate a lot of the anti-God and anti-religion sentiment in the world today, but republican and Christian hypocracy is a major cause of that.

[SonicBoomC98]

I don't want to talk bad about anyone, but some of these people on the right are idiots and at time really scary.

[maraljan]

FRED THOMPSON wants to open our borders and continue the NAFTA highway from Mexico to canada...unified North American Union. Kiss America's freedom Goodbye when that happens.

If you are Christian you shouldn't believe in Genocide of babies in the womb. If you believe that is okay, don't call yourself a Christian...

WHO THE HECK CARES ABOUT EVOLUTION...IT WONT AFFECT POLICY...IT'S NOT A MORAL ISSUE MOVE ONTO SOMETHING IMPORTANT

[scandelez8]

go Obama

[profwhite]

I think this is a great thing, making the political conversation more in-depth and focused. I don't care if it affects conservatives' voting patterns; it's good for the country regardless.

[nicolti]

Well uh, "spookynshadow"... great faith Bush has, killing hundreds of thousands and wounding just as many and wanting to kill even more. I wonder how he, and you, can sleep at night. Idiots. What kind of faith are you following? Satanism?

Oh, and Edwards did the best at this faith forum! He was very likable in presentation and great answers! :)

[spookynshadow]

These DUMBOCRATS think because Bush was elected because of his faith that it will work for them too. What a joke they are, Fred Thompson will be the next President of the United States. Keep talking! The Conseratives will NEVER vote for you