Time's 10 Questions for Ron Paul YouTube

[Bak3dB3an]

So true. Getting tricked or lied too through some cultural stupidity has become bad for the one being lied to or cheated.

Bitch, you're the one lying! It's on you playa! I'm glad I trust people and believe what you tell me. If you wanna excuse your weird lying by saying i'm gullible, then go ahead.

I'm at peace with being able to trust people.

[masajhn]

It's a shame they are going to kill him

[CanadianReich]

Romney is a super super rich fellow who passed laws that influenced his own taxes making it so he pays in about the same tax rate as a person making $57,000 a year would yet he makes 23,000,000 a year. He wants 0 tax on large coorperations (ie rich) yet complains that 47% of americans do not pay income tax (ie poor). He wants to tax the poor and lower taxes on the rich, keeping the rich in control, keeping the rich rich. Dont vote for Romney whatever u do. Whats Ron's income?

[1cont]

The lower GOP hacks need to pack it up so we can get down to a good debate between Ron Paul and Romney. Romney is loving seeing newt and santorum bicker for the same handful of votes. Ron Paul has more support than both of them combined.

Ron Paul is the principled conservative we need right now.

Romney is starting to parrot Dr Paul now

Liberty is the issue

Cradle to grave nanny state

Individualism.

Mittens keeps trying to steal Paul's ideas, but he doesn't understand them well enough.

[tristramshandy3]

I'm conflicted on Paul. As a liberal, I LOVE his stance on foreign policy, and his desire to end the IDIOTIC drug war- but I want the government regulating the banks and other large, multi-national corporations. Paul's philosophy is a wet dream for a lot of big businesses- no regulation and very low taxes.

[hitlerscow]

@tristramshandy3 Complicated regulations create an environment that allows for manipulation of the regulators by the businesses they are supposed to be regulating. This environment breeds chrony capitalism as businesses compete for the govt regulators' good will. The game can be rigged under these circumstances.The game cannot be rigged to hurt another under a true laissez faire society that values and protects property rights and protects from fraud (Judicial Branch at it's best)

[tristramshandy3]

@hitlerscow my response- don't make the regulations complicated- elect people to work for the people by getting the big money out of our elections.

Besides, for a true free market to function, the people have to be informed and educated. How, in a libertarian society, can you meet those two requirements?

Have a great day.

[hitlerscow]

@tristramshandy3 Non-complicated regulations don't tend to exist. Look at the tax code...

In any society, education in civics is essential. Many Americans don't feel obligated to participate in the political system. Understanding basic civil duties is important and typically missing.

How do you make a Republic work? Well, you can't force people to participate, and that seems to be one of the biggest problem with America

[tristramshandy3]

@hitlerscow but if the people aren't informed or well educated, how does a libertarian society work? In this utopia, the people are the ONLY check on corporate malfeasance- but how are they to handle that awesome responsibility?

I have yet to have a libertarian explain that to me adequately.

Have a nice day.

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 if the people govern the people rather than a few super rich elite controlling the people the laws will be written in favor of the people by the people rather than by the few elite passing laws that favor them instead of the common middle class or poor American. ATM Corporate malfeasance runs ammock because those in power run the corporations, they make the laws that let the corporations do what they want..there are no real "checks" on them now at all- they run the country.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich that's why I support taxpayer funded elections, and mandated free, equal airtime on the publically owned airwaves.

How does libertarianism get the corporate cash out of elections?

How does it keep the people informed?

If it can't do that, it is a failed ideology.

Have a nice day. you hoser :)

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 honestly man, your first line sounds very libertarianistic...... having taxpayer funed elections with no big corperation donations sounds like something they would do, it sounds libertarian. Do you question libertarians so much because, were it not for a few key points of difference, you would be one? I think so, thus I understand your desire to debate. you wanker :)

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich LOL! I like canadians :)

I have VERY strong libertarian tendencies. I want people to leave me alone, and I want to leave them alone. So long as you aren't hurting anyone, I don't give three shits what you do- smoke crack, have sex with your consenting cousin- whatever.

BUT..and it's a big, fat, cholesterol filled butt!, I don't want a governmentless society in which corporations run amuck...a society where children work in factories and walmart owns the grand canyon.

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 well, you currently have a governmentless society in which corporations run amuck....because your government is comprised of corporations.....ensuring that you keep driving oil based cars, smoking, producing weapons for wars, invading oil rich countries, and training mercenaries (civilian contractors) for wars. if what I say is true your fears are already at hand, thus the need for "less government" ie "less corporation" influence.  You are slaves, the working poor, already.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich no, we don't have a governmentless society, we have a government that OSTENSIBLY works for the people, but, to anyone with eyes and an iq over 23, is clearly working on behalf of their big money donors, i.e.- big business.

My answer is to improve the government by improving the education of the citizenry. I believe this is the only option.

At least now, we have the option of government reform, and may one day act on it.

If the govt was gone, how would anything be fixed?

[tristramshandy3]

@tristramshandy3 another solution would be to force a breakup of the corporate media giants. SO long as a handful of transnational corporations control 95% of the media, the American public will continue to know all about the kardashians, and have almost NO knowledge of what their government is actually doing; certainly not placed into context, or outside the idiotic, obfuscationist dem v. repub dichotomy the media currently operates under.

Have a nice day.

It's good to be alive.

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 I have nothing against the media so long as it reports the news in a factual way without propaganda or an agenda, but that is not the case, so here we agree. The public have been taught to believe what they hear on the TV without thought,and largely do. Again its those that control the media that are the problem- your big interests and corperations whose money and funding elect and thus control much of your government.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich I agree. But how does libertarianism address corporate consolidation of media?

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3

In order for the government to have control over the population or for any person or group of people to control other people or groups of people education must be withheld. Black slaves can not read, for instance. nor can they own firearms- under the old law of days gone by. Incremental civilian disarmament and a degradation of the education system would help to this end, the end of a wealthy ruling class dominating the poor. You see government as the key to education and

[CanadianReich]

@CanadianReich and fixing things, I see the government as the cause of education's decline and the cause of the problem. With no government at all people would do what they have always done, solve their own problems. There were schools long before there was a big dominate federal government. Parents can teach their children with or without a state run school, as they always have. Apprenticeship for instance, to pass down skills. People band together to solve their own problems.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich that isn't validated by history- it was government, acting on behalf of the people, that instituted an end to child labor, to 16 hour work days, to horrific, unsanitary working conditions.

We get rid of government altogether, and we regress back to the 1890's.

I don't want that.

Government is a necessary evil.

That's a simple fact if people plan on living together in large groups.

Have a great day!

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich I could replace the word "government" with "corporation". The libertarian ideology does not solve the problem, it simply trades government masters for corporate ones.

Education is always the key- without it, no system can work, with it, almost any system can.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich also, I'm enjoying this debate; I respect your intelligence, and I am sincere in my questions.

Have you read the essays of Montaigne?

Might be the greatest book ever published!

Adios.

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich I thought libertarians wanted to abolish government- so how would taxpayer funded elections be libertarian? Why would a libertarian society even HAVE elections?

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 I am not libertarian actually...well, maybe I am. My ideas are mine and not libertarian, but if a libertarian were to read them then maybe he would say I was a lib (lol).

To answer your question think more like a Confederate than a Union soldier- think state level not Federal. More power to smaller units of government and much less power to one giant federal government.

[tristramshandy3]

That's cool. I don't belong to any ideology or belief system myself. I kind of created one, to a degree; and I call it "educationalism".

I argue that education is the key to a healthy society, and without it, there will be corruption, crime, and all the other sociological ills that plague nincompoopery.

I'd rather live in a socialist country with a great education system than a capitalist one with an awful education system; and vice versa.

Adios amigo.

[tristramshandy3]

@hitlerscow also, I'm uncertain how folks such as yourself are so certain about something that has never, in the history of the world, actually existed- just like communism (in an industrial society).

WHERE and WHEN has there ever been a true free market economy for you to base these conclusions on?

Lots of things look nice on paper.

Thanks.

[hitlerscow]

@tristramshandy3 America has been the closest thing since barter days. That's what has made it so attractive to businesses and entrepreneurs. Today, however, regulations and high taxes are driving businesses to more friendly environments. Communism failed because of their attempts to control their economy. Capitalism, too, will fail if, as Bush put it, we "give up free market principles in able to save the free market." Regulating & bailing banks out is not a feasible way to create prosperity

[tristramshandy3]

@hitlerscow while America may have been the "closest" thing, it was still never 100% free market. It appears as if you must admit that this "free market" society has never existed- at least, in modern or industrialized times.

I would say the same about communism. Where is it, exactly, that communism, TRUE communism, was ever tried?

I don't think it has been.

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 No, true communism was never tried. A government by the people for the people was the motive, and I believe that Lenin and Marx may have actually believed that, but once in power a dictator did what dictators do......... government by one for the good of himself, and death to anyone generals or peasants that even remotely threatened his power.

I've nothing against true communism, but fear it can not work due to people's innate greed- the reason for capitalism's success

[tristramshandy3]

@CanadianReich has capitalism succeeded? What, exactly, has it succeeded in doing? Has it made people happier, and if not, what's the point?

Human beings lived under communism for scores of thousands of years.

Greed is learned, not natural.

Have a great day!

[CanadianReich]

@tristramshandy3 I meant that in a strictly cold-war sense. The west VS the east, USA vs the soviet union. Its a mess when you consider China...communist yet using Capitalistic tactics. I personally do not think capitalism has succeeded, and as far as the Soviet union going bankrupt the capitalist west ATM doesnt seem to be doing that much better (looks at deficits of various countries)

[Brysey19]

END THE FED was a great book. Just finished it :)

[jccusell]

Amen. Thank you for another briljant sermon dr. Paul

[vechorik]

ROMNEY'S 2012 PLAN CUTS MEDICARE--Ron Paul’s plan cuts $1 trillion the first year & balances the budget in 3 years. The plan cuts spending by ending the costly foreign wars, and cuts foreign welfare, corporate welfare, and overgrown federal bureaucracy. These cuts are made so that those who are dependent on domestic spending programs such as Medicare aren’t endangered through a sudden change in benefits. Romney’s plan cuts Medicare, on which many elderly Americans rely.