Old Ottoman turkish Music - 16th Century - Makam Uzzal Sakil Turna" by Dimitri Candemir *1673

[Pimsleurable]

Dare I spare a breath to ask how the Ottoman Empire really was?

[Frietpan]

i just love this, i dream a great movie in my head with it :)

[sebs82]

Fantastic Music!!!



[yeserin83]

@sabaqat

=) Sorry dear, but you're really confused.Your Arabs became a slave before Ataturk. Arabs wanted to be independent believing western politicians.Before him, Ottomans came to an end. But you are so blind to see reality cause you've been brainwashed.Read some history books from different perspectives. If power came with a khalife, Arabs could find one for themselves. Go on dreaming the world of 1400 years ago, and invade Europe on your horse. No need to argue with you, thanks.

[efeorh]

@sabaqat Stupid illiterate. Why did your arabs kill turks if you loved khalifa so much? I'm half Syrian arab too. My grandfather kept loyal to the khalifa after other stupid arabs betrayed and seperated from khalifa's land they migrated to Anatolia. Plus, there's no other person who saved more muslim people from death/slavery/torture more than Ataturk did. Not a khalifa, sultan whatever not someone else, not even Mohammad himself. ;)

[efeorh]

@sabaqat So said the "proper" muslim talking behind dead people. Of course you cannot argue. Because, it is a "fact" that so-called muslim leaders never saved any nation or the ummah ever in the history of islamic culture. They only murdered people for being non-believers to spread their influence through the sword. For ego and gold.

+

I'm deist. Not a hypocrite muslim who breaks every law of Islam (pre-marriage sex, lying, false accusating... etc) and calling myself a muslim.

[efeorh]

@sabaqat I got nothing new to say to this. Same as my old comment. Maybe we can add you have chronic schizophrenia. Even when you say worst sinner among Muslims is better than me you're doing shirk. Because, only Allah knows who is good and who is bad. Have you not been taught such things? You don't even know who the hell I am. That everyday I convice infidels that muslims are not evil even though I'm not muslim. For that reason, I'm a perfect representative. Not muslim but for the good

[efeorh]

@sabaqat Infidel, kafr, nonbeliever... same thing. It doesn't make me muslim to call non-muslims as non-muslims. I was wondering where you had the idea about communism etc. it's just that I like their music. :) One day I listen to Red Army Choir, other day nazi music, other day to nasheed. Music is music I like all kind that's sung with strong spirit :). Tsk tsk I better delete these activity broadcast on my profile. Curious people get wrong ideas!

[CrabTastingMan]

@efeorh well said, it is a fact that so many ppl no matter what religion they end up in, end up becoming just a popularist and think like a mob, not even realizing they are mistaking the power of the mob as a whole for their own powers and affording to become aggressive against outsiders, but never having any introspect. It has always been a groupthink mindset for any people, whether in religious groups or secular groups.

[Pimsleurable]

Soothing.

[alphavio87]

لا عرب و لا اخرين هو سماهم المسلمين

فعودوا الى غرسكم المتين

من اين انا من اين انت امعي ام مع الاخرين

اجبت انا من ومع المسلمين

فعودوا الى ريادة العالمين

[Borat911]

Say what you will about Atatürk , but without him there would be no Turkey today to begin with !!!!

[Borat911]

@sabaqat The dragon was already dead even before Atatürk ... he saved what he could

[erdal0]

@sabaqat Ataturk saved the turkish people. Arabs and their moronic religion betrayed the turks in ww1. I recommend you never insult ataturk in front of a turk. I would personally stab your arab ass dead.

[sabaqat]

@erdal0 i'm not an Arab. Islam is right, and your religion of worshipping "ataturk" is wrong.

[erdal0]

@sabaqat shut up arab. Ataturk means the father of the turks. Of course we will have respect for him for saving us from the imperialist. Turks dont like arabs in general because arabs betrayed the ottomans and now arabs are dying left are right. You moronic sub-desert sub-human arabs should worry about that instead.

[sabaqat]

@erdal0 i'm not an Arab. i know what atapok means

[yeserin83]

The claim of that Ataturk was not Turk is really funny. He dedicated his life to raise Turkish civilisation again. Selanik belonged to Ottoman Empire. Still many Turks are living in Greece. These claims are really very cheap and ignorant. Not appreciating him humiliates Turks. He is the one who motivated Turks to be brave and to fight against Imperialism. We are proud of all Turkish states established, including Ottomans.

[yeserin83]

Telling that he was Jewish doesn't make sense. For sure, his family was Muslim. In addition, religion is a personal issue, it cannot be an identity. Our main identity is being Turk. Even for Arabs, Islam is not a unifying identity because of different sects. There are 22 Arab countries, and none of them are powerful, which means Islam is not enough to make a country a dragon.

[yeserin83]

@sabaqat

Are you serious? If invasion is the sign of being superior, then why don't you become a ChristianThey invaded half of the world and colonized many poeple. God also helped him in point of your view. They were quite well in spreading Christianity. Do you think poeple fight jjust for spreading their religious believes? You are skipping social and ecenomical reasons of wars and invasions. You don't know history of Ottomans and world. You are just telling what you memorized.

[CrabTastingMan]

@yeserin83 yeah, too often people think ideologies in war hold any water when it has and always been about more practical reasons. It's just that existing ideologies become good excuses when the economical need shows up.

"Ah infidels, don't want to do anything with them."

"Ah infidels, let's go to their homes and pillage and take their lands."

[yeserin83]

@sabaqat

You can't humulliate my nation and my leader Ataturk like that. The regression oof Ottomans lasted centuries. Do you think Ataturk led it to collapse in a few years? Did he sign the capituations? Did he force Turkey to enter Worl War 1? Did he call Armenians and Greeks to invade and kill Turks with British, French and Russian guns? If you are really very interested in rise of Islam again, go to Irak or Syria and fight against "Christian" imperialists.

[yeserin83]

@sabaqat

Kemalists in Turkey never supported our relaitonship with EU. We connsider them as imperialists and we want to keep our independency. Do you know what that Turkey was invited to enter United Nations during Ataturk period without any requiemerent? That was the time when our revoluiton was an example to other nations.Turkey has lost its independency after Ataturk's death because "religous" people ın my country wanted to establish good relationship with USA.

[CrabTastingMan]

@yeserin83 what? I thought the secular military in Turkey wanted to establish good relations with USA, even if they have to hold the Turkish civilians at gunpoint to "persuade" them.

[yeserin83]

There have been different opinions and cliques in Turkish Army. The coups in 1971 and 1980 were done by the generals supported by US. But one of the reasons of the coup in 1960 was partially that soldiers were irritated of being close to US during Menderes period. After Turkey became a member of NATO due to a virtual communism threat, army became closer to US and its structure started changing especially during Cold War.

[yeserin83]

@CrabTastingMan

But after Cold War, the tension btw US &Turkish Army increased. Because the politics of US, its plans to change the borders of Middle East countries and to establish a Kurdish State in Irak was apperantly conflicting with Turkey's benefits.Also US supports PKK terrorism in Turkey, and Turkish Army is fighting against PKK for years. "Anti-USA" inclinations within army became very strong.

[yeserin83]

@CrabTastingMan

Now many Turkish generals, who are against American plans, are in jail after "Ergenekon Investigation" because US considered them as a threat. This opeation, in the name of "democrasy" was just done to weaken Turkish Army. In Turkey, not the army, but the politicians collabrate and do whatever US wants. This is the rule.

[BigBitchesCarHouse]

@Erolzonguldak Im sorry my friend but you dont know your own history ... Turks Conquered in the name of islam. they took all the arabs freedom because they were powerful ... Dont play the we were good and you were bad on us

[moby786]

@nienna011 if you have a problem with the seriat you have a problem with your creator because these afe not our laws these are the laws of your creator. Have some shame you flipping idiot!! Do you call yourself a muslim?

Anyway the Ottomans are coming back!! Long live the Grandchild of the Ottomans, Recip Erdogan!!

[moby786]

@h3mmod1990 arabs gave turks the religion? What is it their dads religion or sutin?! Flipping grow up will you!! Islam is not owned by anyone!! Remember Allah sent the Prophet (saw) as a mercy to the whole of mankind!! Oh and by the way the Ottomans were better muslims than the idiots who are in charge of our holy lands today!!

[moby786]

@93moe93 you got it spot on bro!! @nienna011 is talking out of his cakehole the prick!!

[TheTrackformer]

yes we don't want that islamic law in turkey because it is against the human rights and democracy. women should decide whether they want to wear a headscarf, a burka or whatever. no one should be stoned just because of an relationship outside of a marriage... stoning is barbaric and disgusting way of killing and death penalty in general is not human. there are hundreds of points agains civilization. christian, atheists or whatever should live in a country and islamic right makes that impossible.

[KrwawyLeon]

We Poles respect the Ottoman Turks. We had many wars but it should be remembered that after Poland was defeated by combined Russian, German and Austrian armies, Turkey was the only country that did not recognize this conquest.

[h3mmod1990]

If Turks hate Arabs because they revolt against them AFTER 500 years of Turkish rule, Then don't forget that Arabs give islam to Turks and this way Ottoman empires and all that great history came today.

[esraretin]

@h3mmod1990 it was turning point of history wht arabs have done! no doubt big mistake also

[rofrno]

Dimitrie Cantemir - he was Romanian! I'm Romanian too, and Muslim!

I just simpli love all the songs composed by Dimitrie Cantemir (Dimitri Candemir)

[hairyknuckles1000]

@rofrno Noooooooooooooooooo!

[rofrno]

@hairyknuckles1000 What no?

[crizeno]

Amazing music, full of life.

[Daemonbird]

ARABS MADE NO GOOD TO SEPERATE FROM OTTOMANS. AFTER THAT AND NOW EVERYBODY BETRAYS AND MURDERS THE ARABS.

KADER & KISMET.

[suffiice]

what are the exact instruments used in this piece?

[ghostdog182]

Dimitri Cantemir not Candemir !

[Zovlanov]

whatever, i just think that turkey is better than arab

[greatdaveforever]

let us set politics and wind aside - and let this beautiful - cok sekerli musiki speak for itself - turk fasil is the music of the angels - and this piece in samai -as noted by david effendi pasha - lover of music of the east - the east otherwise is stuck in the muck of its' backward politics- and sublime ignorance

[polygamous1]

@Erolzonguldak the arabs still need turkey today to stand up for their rights its Not the arab ppl to blame the secrets of an economic hit man: first we offer them loans they can't repay if they refuse we send in the assasins that fails we send in the jackalls to start a "popular" revolution that fails too we Invade (IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM N DEMOGRACY take over all their natural resourses n install a puppet gov) Libya is the latest example they screwed greece up 2 hope the can't do it to Turkey

[SultanOfSwords]

Turks adopted Kurdish culture and Islam, Turkish culture was like Mongolian Culture, before they became Muslim.

[esraretin]

@SultanOfSwords neither arabs nor kurds have that great music!

[nadimakram]

pakistan loves turkey. turkey zindabad

[WhoAreYouRe]

@Erolzonguldak The army might have been Muslim but it was full of christian converts..and they were in the front lines

[ZIrani1]

bad ass music.. thanks for posting

[sightsandsoundsofpak]

Greetings of love and respect to Turkish people and Turkey from people of Pakistan.

[esraretin]

çok güzel hazırlamışsın eline sağlık

[aszkanfederation28]

@Erolzonguldak ehmm don't only blame arabs , but JEWS 'as usual' the people whom the ottomans help during the reconquista is one of the contribution factors fall of the ottomans,but that's not all but Ottomans was ruled by the series of weak sultans after the death of Suleyman Kanuni ... And the Janisaries got to much power untill they can decide who should become their sultan..not to blame anyone but blame ourselfs the muslim,stop fighting each other saying who is right and wrong ,aite?

[Nekronaut321]

fantastic music from one the most perfect empires.

[Dogu87es]

bedevilermiş arap değil bedeviler sanırım fransız oluyor :))

[SmartSeer]

Pathetic culture stealers...

Modified Byzantine (Romaion) Music, which comprices ~90% of it, + some Perso-Arabic motives, and here you go - Turkish/Ottoman Music!...

Well, there will always be plenty of blind people around the world, who'll admire you, so:

Cheers!

[GudMuzlim786]

@SmartSeer What do you mean Byzantine?

How do you even know if Byzantine music sounded like this?

This is Turkish music with persian/arab influence, nothing european!

Why can't you just listen to music in peace rather than hating on other cultures, fool!?

[sofiane2b]

@Erolzonguldak

I'm Arab and i send my love to the great history of turkey ! This song remenber the good time of ISLAM

[trkbrsdgn]

WE ARE NOT ARAB aq sikerler .

[ekulac]

OTTOMAN IS THE BEST!

[elbombardi]

çuk guzel ... bana için Ottoman tarih çok önemli ...

With respect from Algeria ... Long life Erdogan Elfatih

[abdullahbb]

as a muslim what i know about turkish people is the have a nature of (( if they want to get something they will get it no matter what)) if you read the history when turkish people enter islam they were the best in wars and saving islam even of the time of Crusades they stoped meny meny wars and the deffeted the Crusades meny times .. thats why amircans and british the do not want turkish to know there history ..

[93moe93]

@abdullahbb I agree with you 100% brother.. It was Ataturk that changed our alphabet, ambolished the Caliphe, forced Turkish citizens to be more European by getting rid of the ottoman clothe tradition including the kavuk (ottoman hat).. women were even banned from wearing the hijab.. When you look at us Turks now, we do not dress like ottomans anymore, we dress more like europeans.. It's very sad... Ins'Allah Erdogan brings back the seriat and our alphabet.. I want Islamic Caliph back ins'Allah!

[ummiehummie]

@93moe93 FAIL.

[rofrno]

@93moe93 Latin alphabet is one of the ugliest alphabets in the entire world!

But to be sincere, the Arabic abjad does not fit languages like Turkish, Persian, Urdu. Why? Because the Arabic alphabet is made for Arabic language, and it is based on the word root system, that's why it does not write all the vowels, that's why in Arabic there is no confusion about vowels, but in other languages there is big confusion when reading a word without vowels.

[nienna011]

@93moe93 Maybe you should go and live in another country.. Since you're not comfortable living in a country where the majority does not want to live your dream, it may be a time for you to consider relocation.. there are many places that you can live your illiterate life and wear whatever you want and read only one book, if you are at least able to read arabic.. and it's probably better for you to speak arabic anyways.. Turkish is not a language that arabic alphabet suits well..

[nienna011]

ooh I missed one point.. since you call arabic scripts your alphabet, you should've never been living in Turkey anyways, probably you're not Turkish. Turkish was not written with Arabic scripts before Islam.. Please kindly leave before deteriorating our country and culture..

[93moe93]

@nienna011 I am Turkish. People like you which support the so called "Ataturk" are the ones that ruined our Ottoman culture.. people like you want to separate us turks from the arabs.. people like you don't understand the law of islam.. you people are ignorant.

The arab alphabet is way better than the latin.. what you ataturk supporters don't want is the seriat law back, that is why you are against Erdogan and the other Islamic parties. Ottoman Empire was successful under seriat not ataturk law!

[3choBlaster]

@93moe93 Ottomans ruined them selves, Arabic Alphabet isn't better than anything. It's just a script, there is not better or worse. The Arabic alphabet is TO hard to learn, and TO hard to write Turkish with. And Latin is the UNIVERSAL script in our modern age That's the reason we use it.

99% of Turkey doesn't wan't Sharia you retard. 90% of Turkey is an Kemalist/Ataturkcu, we ALL love Ataturk. Even most people who vote for AKP. Even ERDOGAN uses M.K Ataturks quotes and examples.

[3choBlaster]

@93moe93 You're completely ignorant of Ottoman culture. ALL Turks are PROUD of their Ottoman heritage, but it's something of the past. The OTTOMANS destroyed them selves. They gave their WHOLE financial system to the Europeans. Not only that, they won the wars but still signed the Sevres treaty, gave away our remaining land. Supported the Greek occupation (Put a FATWA on Turkish rebels who fought the Greek invaders, said everyone who killed one of them and helped the Greeks would go to heaven!)

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster No offense, but compromising treaties signed by the Ottomans were forced upon them because their empire was in decline. If it wasn't for Britain or France allying themselves with the Ottomans in the 19th century the Russians would have overrun the Balklands and kicked the Ottomans out of Europe all together - they probably would have taken Constantinople in the Crimean War without British or French aid.

[3choBlaster]

@CharlesDilkes None taken, of course treaties were forced on the Ottomans. Their whole financial system was taken over by European powers. The Russians actually were the first to support the Ankara (Ataturks) gov. They gave us the gold, weapons etc (most of it never arrived).

While Loyd George was supporting and funding the invading Greeks. Most of his government was against it, even Churchill advised him not to support the Greeks.

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster It wasn't 'taken over' - financiers were invited by the Ottomans: the Ottoman Bank, pretty much founded by Britons, was integral for the Ottomans in raising capital. The Ottomans were in massive decline from the late 17th - early 18th century, I don't think people appreciate that point.

As for the Russians & Ataturk, it's best to look at the 18th & 19th century.

[3choBlaster]

@CharlesDilkes I never said we didn't fight the Russians. The financiers weren't just invited it was because of the huge debts the Ottomans had to the Europeans. That was the main reason they were able to take over the financial system with such ease .. if the Ottomans did not have such debts the financial system wouldn't have been given away.

It's a well know fact that the Ottomans where in decline in the 17th/18th century.

[3choBlaster]

@3choBlaster We fought the Russians but in the end fighting us was to expensive and costly for them. They supported Ankara because they rather saw an independent Turkish state than the British and French colonizing yet another country. Especially one which such strategic importance ..

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster Well not really, the Russians would probably have rolled right up to Constantinople if wasn't for the other Great Powers keeping her in check. The 'Eastern Question', as the Europeans called it, usually placed the Ottomans as a bulwark against Russian expansion, that entailed friendly overtures from the British & French.

[3choBlaster]

@CharlesDilkes The English did not fight their way into Anatolia .. they lost battle after battle and then they just walked in to Anatolia without any resistance. The Ottoman sultan even put a Fatwa on anyone who fought the Brits or their Greek allies .. and promised Muslim that anyone who'd help the Greeks kill the Ankara rebels (that'[s how they were seen at the time) would go to heaven.

The Ottomans betrayed their own history and people,

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster You're talking about the Great War again - try the 19th & 18th centuries.

[3choBlaster]

@CharlesDilkes The reason of the extreme support Loyd gave to the Greeks was because he was an Anti Turk, Christian fundamentalist .. He wanted to invade Anatolia and take it as a colony for him self but he couldn't. Because like I said .. he couldn't afford another Galipolli. His government and people wouldn't allow it.

In the end the Turks won, the Ottomans got what was coming to them Russia backed of, the Greeks and Armenians were defeated, England, France, Italy retreated.

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster Lloyd George wasn't a Christian fundamentalist - what a silly thing to say. And Britain never wanted Anatolia as a 'colony' - what a stupid thing to suggest. There were no 'colonies' in the middle east - ceded territory were Mandates, not colonies - there's a difference.

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster The Ottomans didn't have a 'financial system' - that's the point, that's why the Europeans - principally the British - were invited, it was part of the Ottomans' process of Europeanisation / modernisation.

[3choBlaster]

@CharlesDilkes Actually it wasn't .. Ottomans had a financial system .. what you just said was plain ignorant. The Ottomans lost the control over their own financial system by loaning to much from European powers. The Russians "tried" taking Anatolia and failed time after time. Just like the English failed time after time. The Ottomans gave UP. The traitor Damat Ferid Pasa convinced the Sultan and the Ottomans signed the sevres treaty. The English also couldn't afford another Galipolli

[CharlesDilkes]

@3choBlaster No they didn't. That's why the Ottomans invited Britons to found the Ottoman Bank; they had no concept of merchant banking / discounting, stock exchange or finance. You don't 'lose control' over a 'financial centre' simply being a debtor.

The Russian strategy was to take the Balklands, principally Wallachia & Moldova whilst turning the Ottomans into a client State, which they would have done; quite frankly, the Ottomans would have lost the Crimean War without France & Britain.

[3choBlaster]

@93moe93 I meant completely ignorant of Ottoman history, my bad. Anyway. As for the Arabs. They betrayed us, they betrayed the Caliph. They chose an English spy over us. It's THEIR fault Palestine is now Israel. Without M.K Ataturk there would be no Turkey today. There also would be NO Ottoman Empire. The last years of the Ottoman empire are a shameful stain on their otherwise beautiful history.

You're not a Turk, you're a pathetic uneducated Arab apologist.

[3choBlaster]

@nienna011 People like 93moe93 are a VERY small minority .. no one even takes them serious.. haha sharia law in Turkey. The people would NEVER let that happen ..! Most Turks love Ataturk, there is a small fundamentalist minority who have all kinds of fantasies about Ottomans, sharia law etc.

We are a country that has a liquor store next to the small grocery store for every street for gods sake. Some pray, some don't, most fast, some don't most believe, some don't. And everyone likes it that way

[abdullahbb]

Ottoman empire or Islamic Caliphate in Turky .. the was at there time the strongest empire and even france asked Suleiman the Magnificent to help them to fight Germany .. even in Science they were the best .. but the problem the turkish ppl have right now .. becouse of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk .. he want the turkish to forget there history and he change the alphabets .. cuz he he want the next Generation of his time to not read and know about the turkish islamic history... and he did it ..

[physiqueper4]

what some arab leaders did and what the latest Ottoman Sultanes did was a huge mestake.As Arab I only like , even love turkish people not only as brothors in culture and religion geopgraphy and history but also there is a huge sensation in the arab world that Turkey is a model that should be influencign us. By the way this music is AWSOM, thx

[DaLynxfighta]

I'm so nostalgic of the ottoman empire...

[sanninlover]

O men! Your God is One, and your father is one. No superiority of an Arab over a non Arab nor a non-Arab over an Arab, nor a white over a black nor a black over a white. The only superiority that counts [with God] is that of piety. Have I conveyed the message?

That is the message of the Prophet (pbuh) in his hajj.

An Arab who loves all the Muslims

[langstonify]

I visited Istanbul last year--a fantastic city. And the music is irresistible.

[xGrymx]

What is this...I find a nice video with fine music...and muslims arguing over who is a good muslim and who is not...

Maybe it's better left to Allah to decide who is a good muslim?

As a Christian (sort of) I can't tell who is a good muslim, but to me a bad muslim would be the one who cast disgrace on Islam.

Did Mohammad (pbwh) really want people to think that Islam is a religion of hate and terror?

Then Osam Bin Laden would be a good muslim...

Want to free Palestine?

Read Ghandi!

[MrHellyeah2010]

This is an awesome video mate. Cool old music, very interesting and beautiful illustraions too. I was just wondering about the symbol/badge at the start (still in use today? from an old military?)

Also, what do the words underneath it mean?

I really love all the old symbols and decorations of different empires, and that one is especially beautiful.

I'm an Israeli-blooded aussie, so you might think i wouldnt be interested, but your video is awesome dude! Keep up the good work mate!

[MrEvilAli]

they got all arabs country

except morocco

& proud to be moroccan :)

[kaidrasd]

Now, tha army of islam is Iran. Long live Iran and Ayatollah Jamenei.

Erdogan defends an Unity Islamic World.

Yes we can: Oman, A. Saudi, Pakistan. Iran. Turkey, Bosnia, Albania, Kososvo, Chechenya, Kazajistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Sudan, Algeria, Syria, Bangladesh, Iraq, Surinam, Qatar, EUA, Egypt, Libia, Senegal, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Eritrea, Yemen, Lebanon, Guinea Conakry, Guinea Bissau, Gambia...

[kaangazi96]

@kaidrasd I dont think Iran is. they dont even like muslims they only like themselves because they think theyre believings is the best. This is not safe therefor Turkey shall be and have allwaysbe the big brother of middle east

[QUINTUSMAXIMUS]

@Erolzonguldak It is not that simple, you know. You see only one side. The Arabs were angry about WWI. They were forced to fight in wars in Europe, and they demanded that they not fight in such foreign wars. Also, groups like Al-Fatat were suppressed by the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs wanted their freedom. They were not against Turks. The empire was good for them before, but in the end with the wars and oppression not so good. Fighting for Germany was not a good idea.

[ilikeagent047]

@QUINTUSMAXIMUS unity of Islam = absolute must

[AlGhaffar]

fuck you all turks are good muslims inshallah

[sultanmuhammadII]

post on youtube this : The Deen Show: Was Muhammed (pbuh) really a Prophet?

watch it

[sultanmuhammadII]

iqra mean recite prophet muhammad was listening to words of allah from anjel jabreel then he memorize it and recite it to people

arabs at that time very good in memorizing they were memorizing poems

[sultanmuhammadII]

post on youtube the deen show christian minister

watch his conversion to islam

[sultanmuhammadII]

muhammad is prophet and the god is allah

allah is the arabic word for the god the creator

all good is from allah he doesnt tell to do bad things

he give you a choice

you should read the quran

[rizhaq7]

Ottoman sultans look so much better than European kings/monarchs!

[salmy2000]

so what the british empire was religios and now they are not people get smarter and understand that religion is bullshit and muhamad loved fucking girls alot

[remo2charsi]

turkish people use to be called the army of islam, and now look at turkey, there is lots of christians in themselfs....and they only know Allah is the god and they are muslims, thats alll

[Erolzonguldak]

@remo2charsi

maybe the ottomans yes. But this ends after 1915 lawrence and some arab leaders betrayed the army of islam.

NOT ALL ARABS only some leaders. The only thing that we can do is, to learn from the history and prevent further mistakes. All Muslims are brothers.

[remo2charsi]

@Erolzonguldak i am from turk descent aswell, i even hold a turkish passport, but i just feel bad and get pissed, when you see your own people going in a wrong way, like americans, they name their god when they having sex, and samething i can see with some turkish people, i just pray and hope they go in the right path for paradise, and that path is Islam

[greatestdirector]

@remo2charsi

"Everything is from Allah"

Isn't sex included?

Only Christians believe some are evil and some are good, and only good is from god. Allah is not a god and both evil and good are from Allah.

[salmy2000]

@greatestdirector true but muhamad was no nabi @ all he was just

[greatestdirector]

@salmy2000

so what was he?

[remo2charsi]

@greatestdirector yes sex included

[yolunuzun75]

@Erolzonguldak

Asil Araplar degil aslinda asi hatta bazilari musluman bile olmayan colde yasayan bedeviler lawrence a yardim ettiler iy arastirsaniz aslinda Araplar hep Osmanliya yardim ettiler.

Hayirli gunler

[GudMuzlim786]

@Erolzonguldak It wasn't just the poor uneducated arabs who dissoluted the great Ottoman Empire but kemalist turks were also involved lead by none other than Mustafa Kemal himself! But to the final route, the biggest traitors were the British!Such a disappointment too because the Ottoman sultans used to make regular visits to Britian to make strong bonds with the leaders! But what did the British do in the end?Stab the honourable sultans in the back!The British are not worthy of being respected!

[Megashehri]

@Erolzonguldak happy eid :D

[Erolzonguldak]

@Megashehri

allah razi olsun. Bayram Aid mubarak :)

[greatestdirector]

@remo2charsi

"la ilahe illAllah; No God, but Allah"

Allah is not a god and i'm Turkish. Unaware of this fact you attempt to critisize others. "Iqra!"

"Iqra" is not "read" nor "prolaim". It's a momentarily contemplation and perception of Sunnetullah. We, here, do not adopt Bedouin tradition instead of Islam. I wish "Felah" for you.

[seed157]

@remo2charsi you are retarded... Didnt the arabs betray the Turks and cause the fall of Caliphate ? Didnt you guys take Jerusalem from the hands of Turks and gave it to the English?

[remo2charsi]

@seed157 i am talking about how weak their iman is...i am not talking about history...and are you telling thats the reason why people in turkey dont have strong iman?

[QUINTUSMAXIMUS]

@seed157 When you are examining history you need to examine it in a global way. When the Ottoman Empire collapsed it was weak. Before the Arabs did anything, the Ottoman Empire was already finished. Turkish ethnic nationalists started dominating the empire too much and the previous better treatment of the Arabs changed. Otherwise, the Arabs would not have revolted. Before the Turkish rule was much better than what it was in the late 19th century and early 20th century.

[kaangazi96]

@remo2charsi There are only 1% in turkey that isnt muslim and thoose aint even turks.

[remo2charsi]

@kaangazi96 lets say 1% of turkey isn't muslim and maybe 80% of them just know that they are muslim thats it, not more than that

[bbzgangster3]

@remo2charsi so what you want to tell us is that turks are bad muslims and arabs good muslims?!

the fucking arabs betrayed the ottomans behind them and then you're telling us that we're bad muslims?

only allah is the one that can say who's a muslim and who not.

the important thing is yourself, if you're muslim then is it OK.

but which country is helping palestina?

you arabs left palestina!

do you know why!

cause you arabs are money dogs.

[remo2charsi]

@bbzgangster3 exactly thats what i meant if u understood my comment, i said turks use to the army of Islam but thats past and i am talking about present and when u look at turkish people, they are nowhere near to muslims in other countries

since u didnt read my comments clearly and just started barking, i will repeat again that i am not an arab, i am turkmen : )

[pinusstrikesback]

@remo2charsi get lost moron, what you babbling about. you gave the kaaba and whole fucking middle east to english and french while our soldiers defending them on wwi. what muslim union you talking about? on which struggles you helped us to gain positive results? did you even know what a struggle is? united arab emirates my ass. wht u smoking, petroleum?

your people cant even defend their lands and rights aganist bunch of zionist warmongers till today.so dont discuss turkish politics on yt.

[remo2charsi]

@pinusstrikesback look MR.COOL...first of all who took kaaba away?:S did u even read anything about ISLAM in your life, as you dont know anything. What muslim union am i talking about? my brother..i did not talk about any muslim union, go through my comments again u brainless..and struggle? lool whos talking about struggle? and you dumbass noone is taking about politics here...go push it in toilet..and read,think and then comment next time..now fuck off

[TheBlindPowerslave]

@remo2charsi allahını sikeyim pis çöl köpeği

[3choBlaster]

@remo2charsi LOL During Ottoman times there where MUCH more Christians in Turkey. Not to mention the fact that MOST Arab countries have more Christians that Turkey.

Seriously where do you get the nerve to even criticize us .. we are 100% SECULAR and proud.

[remo2charsi]

@3choBlaster who said there were Christians during ottoman empire? Christians are the one who came from Armenia and other Balkan countries it was during and after the Balkan war..let me ask you..are you from turkey? and we aint talking about if u are proud or not...thats not the topic at all my friend : )

[rayoflightcanada]

i wish we can turn back time

[shariotoflove]

sounds very similar to iranian.