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  • His explanation of the emergence of humanity is pure supposition and conjecture. He proves nothing. What hope...thus, how intelligent.

  • I think the human minds tends to interpret and find meaning behind what cannot be truly explained. We find comfort in knowing.. We determine such an order as reoccurring because the broad idea is identical but when looking at emergence as a whole, there is no distinguishable similarity between for example, social order and the Big Bang.. Philosophical? yes but not sound.. However, Terence is still highly intelligent..

  • Doesn't quantum mechanics out date this.??

  • Eh too much fore me to take in...

  • every experience happens in consciousness and consciousness doesn't really need a creator except itself, and as it happens this "consciousness" springs out of "pure potential" which is highly intelligent nothingness. so if you really think about it the big bang theory stands firm as the moment that consciousness sprung out of pure potential.. an intelligent universe with "pure potential" or "nothingness" as GOD... so we have the big bang, we have god, and we have intelligence. *takes a bow*

  • that was mind blowing thinks

  • 'if genes aren't involved, it aint evolution'. i have heard statements like this from people i know to be smart- there is only a rudimentary understanding in the world that *everything* is evolution.

  • i think terence would be very unhappy if in the years approaching 2012 everyone who commented on his lectures agreed with him.

  • terence mckenna is a legend. i love him.

  • What the fuck is he rambling about? Modern science is all about unifying nature. It has shown us the commonality between the organic and the inorganic through physics and chemistry. And the biologist he quoted is right, BIOLOGICAL evolution only works with genes. That's simply how the word is defined. If you want to talk about cultural evolution, that's a different thing.

  • @yehcnimoigres I think the main idea was that complexity in nature has increased exponentially over time. Basically, nature evolves. The catch is that these evolutionary jumps in complexity are going to happen more and more frequently as time goes on. As for "biological" evolution, the word itself is just a mental crutch for us.. Kinda like how classical physics collapses when quantum mechanics comes into play, but its still convenient. Everything that exists is made of the same "stuff".

  • google Doe's Account.

  • Practice dwelling in mystery.

  • explosions in the sky is the artist of the music

  • @Disco11seven Your comment is downright disrespectful. Stick to shutting the FUCK up.

  • Terrance is dead.

  • physicaly, spirtualy he will never die.

  • indeed it is explosions in the sky

  • How could the Universe even be?

  • @Neanderthalcouzin

    Why not?

  • Is the music by explosions in the sky?

  • I like the music, but it was a bit too loud and distracting for me during certain segments of the talk...

  • I enjoyed this video.

  • I respect the genius of life to emerge spontaneously --- the genius of matter to order itself intelligently. However when I see people acting without civility, I see neither spontaneous order, nor emergent intelligence --- just nasty tempered monkeys flinging their feces at each other --- living proof of evolution. Neither science nor religion recognizes the emergence of spontaneous order from chaos, nor of intelligence from dumb matter, but RedliteRocket does.

  • this conversation is a pitty to see in a terrence postings

  • Your absolutely correct,btw do you have a degree in biology or in some type of medical field?Because I really wish you would stop throwing high school grade jargon my way. I fully understand the process through which conception is made possible on a celluar level. But Im asking how can you simply say that bacteria and microrganisms evolved into humans through evolution,simply because one day they showed up on earth?Please tell me how and give me hard evidence and I'll agree that there is no god.

  • no one is here to teach you, go research this yourself. You have the questions go ask them somewhere more credible than youtube. One more thing, what is your definition of God? How do you know this god you have in your head didn't intend for evolution to take place. See, even you think that evidence is needed so how can you define your own feelings as universal truth for others.

  • I have asked no one to teach me anything,btw Im certain you were not involved in my conversation;however, I agree with the theory of evolution. The point Im trying to make is that the complexity of life/evolution had to be guided by a more powerful source other than instinct and chemical preconditions. In steps god, like I said you give me hard physical evidence that evolution and the miracle of life is influenced by something other than wht must be a higher power and I'll agree with you.

  • Religious nut, its stupid as hell to disregard science and then back it up with A BIG BEARDED MAN IN THE FUCKING SKY DID IT IN 7 DAYS!!!?? I don't know why I'm bothering replying, because all you crack pots are set in your ways.

  • Religious nut?Im not disreguarding science you fuck.Evolution is a very plausible THEORY.Could you tell me the defintion of the word "theory"?The point Im trying to make is god created all life and introuduced evolution to the world.Varies chemical compositions didnt create life on its own,Im sorry if you believe life was created due to complex atomic chemistry your crazy.I'll say once again the miracle of complex life,social systems,and progressive intelligence is manipulated by a higher being.

  • You are absolutely right, the miracle of life most definitely was caused by the catalyst of a higher intelligence. Let those who can't see this obvious Truth be lost in the bonfire of their own vanities.

  • But who created god?

  • "Perhaps the world is not made perhaps nothing is made, perhaps it simply is, has been, will always be there ... a clock without a craftsman."

    Dr. Manhattan

  • a self creating universe

  • I think one problem with our human concept of "created" Reality is that we humans form or create "things" from a point of view of already being part of the flow of the whole system. So we find some clay, and form it and let it dry and we feel "this is creating" but we are in the middle of this whole flow of process. The usual idea of a "Creator" doing this type of thing just runs up againts the problem of his/her/its location at the start of the process... which is beyond our comprehension.

  • @zetetic0void true

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  • ALSO, its strange that you cannot grasp the plausibility of evolution yet believe in the concept of a god without question.

  • on one hand cheyawhadup is wrong, but on the 0other he is bringing up SOME cool points so just show him respect. hes just a different adaptation of an amoeba as well afterall. :) how a micro organism evolved into an organism is an answer i do not have, but regardless ur argument that it must have required a higher power does not seem to relevant, as it could easily be undiscovered. but im sure there is an answer. how did quartz(spelling?) form subatomics which formed atoms is even more complex

  • anyways what i am trying to say is just because there r unknowns, it does not mean there is a higher power. there have been unkowns throughout history, before evolution a theist might say "well since u cant explain how we got here there must be a god". and now evolution almost completely sums it up. it is a fallacy to say it must be god bc i can say it must not have been. prove to us it is god. theists have to bear evidence atheism is a lack of belief.

  • I used to consider myself athiest until I got into psychedelics. I don't believe in a god was in human form, like jesus for example. But athiesm is also seperation from everyone else, which is also an illusion. You have to realize that "we are all one consiousness experiencing itself subjectively, their is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and were the imagination of ourselves"-Bill hicks. crucify the ego

  • i believe everything you just said except the god part. so how is that separation from other people? i have arrived on those same conclusions without a belief in a higher power. I just look at people as all evolving from a single amoeba which explains collective consciousness. beyond that everything is made up of atoms and a subatomic particles to validate a common thread. and life being a dream of a dream does not require faith, that thinking is a kind of existentialism. so we r nt so dfrnt u&i

  • Thats cool that your mind is open. To elaborate, what you feel counsiously and the energy flowing through you when you close your eyes is essentially the same thing that flows through everything. We are a minute portion of the ininite intelligence closed of in this illusionary world for some reason. I recommend going to gods other devils page, genious Av work. This reality is alot stranger than some people would like to admit, but as long as people know their is only love, we are going to be OK.

  • if evolution didnt exist the Introcate process Of cell combinations to form new organisms so that they can make the organism that the origional Cell DNA Genes had to combine and evolve to an organism that takes DNA from past cells to evolve, So we very much evolve, God has no say on it, god didnt get your mother drunk that one night when daddy blasted his load up her ass...You simply came about through cause and effect, Instinct and cell progression and evolution, read a book religious nutz

  • God created this world, if your intrested in science what so ever the miracle of life is way to complex and amazing for mankind to be created by evolution and you know this.Simple cell division is probbly one of the most complicated things all living organisms do.If you believe are emotional state is influenced by the alignment of planets Im sorry man but your wrong lolz I respect your view and opinion a planet doesn't affect my decsion to have a good day there is a higher power that created us.

  • Evolution proved.

    The human sperm cell is haploid, so that its 23 chromosomes can join the 23 chromosomes of the female egg to form a "diploid cell". A uniflagellar sperm cell that is motile is referred to as a spermatozoon, whereas a non-motile sperm cell is referred to as a spermatium. Sperm cells cannot divide and have a limited life span, but after fusion with egg cells during fertilization, a "totipotent zygote" is formed with the potential to develop into a "new organism".

  • I love this man's brain. Does anyone know what band is in the background? It sounds like Appleseed Cast...

  • it's sigur ross

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  • actually they do have orbitals. Research it if you don't believe me :)

  • orbits are a good explanatory model... but to say they "do" is to forget that the map is not the territory...

  • the big bang is based on the sacred tetragrammaton found originally in the kabbalah ... an ancient book on jewish mysticism ... also terrence does the most complete anylisis on the i ching in the world ... he breacks it down ... no one else even makes an idea that is truly thereown ... he has done this .... he has created something that IS very important to mankind ... and if youdont think so than you arent concious

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  • you obviously dont know much about science since you dont know who he is ... he revalutionized and even created a field of science ... its called fractal ... as above so below ... have you ever heard of the fibbanachi sequence ... its what dictates all life ... there is also the fact that the planetary movements also afect our emotional state ... besides your gonna trust those jewish physacists ... you probly dont even know what the big bang is based on ...

  • brilliant truth and light

  • last night i took 6 hits of acid and what i came to realize is that what are eys see and what are bodys feel is time travel and the only why you can see what i saw is to watch a movie, and understand how a camera works. For example Its like looking into a mirror, everything is vibrating out from your face. You cant see your face age but you can watch everything else fly by........tunal vision

  • I've seen similar when i took psychoactive plant called hawaiian baby wood rose two weeks ago.

    I experienced that i'm consciousness dreaming myself. And time is a matrix. I felt LOVe for the first time of my life. We are the perfection of the universe, the brain is the explorer of the universe:]

  • take about 15 grams of shrooms then tell me what you experience

  • hell yeah

  • was it from a chemist ... at a university ...

  • no but it was clean i know the difference i got dirty shit before it dosnt have the same effect on my mind

  • i didnt make your neck hurt did it ? ive only had it from a street source a few times ... a bunch from the lab... the stuff that wasnt from the lab ... i didnt even trip like the stuff from the lab ... the from the lab shit youd take one hit and trip for 8 hours str8 ... holla

  • Truth Be Spoken.

    I have seen this through a psychedelic experience, by intellectualization and by serendipitious attraction to consciouss vibration.

    Creating Heaven on Earth.

    Brilliant Vjing :)

  • All this guy needs is a wand!

  • cool,im just getting into consciousness,

    2012 new awakenning imminent!

    the golden age

  • what a hypocrite :D didnt he start out by dissing science? then giving a science lecture!? greate talk, but what a douche

  • explosions :)

  • This is from Eros and the Eschaton.. to watch the whole thing visit my channel

  • Love the post....would prefer no music but still very insightful.

  • Agreed

  • Leave it with music

  • iv heard solar systems move in and out from the core in the galaxy in cycles so its also not even close to any of the others (atom or solar system)

  • geez.... electrons circle the core, planets going around a star and star clusters orbiting around the gravitational centre of a galaxy

    Its not even close to similar, Electrons are hardly effected by the extremely weak gravity force but also it dosent move in a circle but completely random and is so fast its basically everywhere at the same time creating a sphere

    solar system is created by a gas and rock disk left over by the birth of the sun

  • why would anyone vote thumbs down on this? it's true. if anyone has studied the atom they'd know that the electrons are circling the nucleus at the speed of light which is a very small space so the electrons are considered to be everywhere at once and it's completely unpredictable. i haven't finished watching the video yet but if there's educational merit to a post then it shouldn't be awarded a thumbs down.

  • i dont think there is any educational merit at all (nor did i watch more then the first 5 minutes because it feels like someone was running a power drill through my ears)

    Ok, Electrons moves in a sphere not circle, the force that makes it spin around is the electro magnetic force (i think),

    planets thats formed by the leftovers after a star birth got ecliptic orbits and is caused by the rotation of the gas cloud at the birth of the sun

    Where is the similarity or is it not just a coincidence?

  • Let me ask you one thing though... What if there is no coincidence?

    What if you finishing a friend's sentence, knowing what he/she is going to say before they say it...

    Who's to say that's not telepathy? But we've just been so numbed down to what our mind's are truly capable of, that you have no definite way of knowing.

    Become one with everything. Be one with your own energies. Learn how to feel those energies as for what they really are.

  • there is no coincidence, what happens will happen and will never not happen nor change. From the moment of our universe's birth everything was already determined.

    Like a falling rock's controlled by gravity and wind etc.. we are controlled by what we learned like you dont touch a hot plate twice if you can help it

    we can imagine what will happen but when it has its happened and it wont happen any other way

    also we kinda know the limits of our brains enough that telepathy is definitely...

  • Are you joking telepathy? maybe it was your brain guessing what they were going to say. Thats called thinking dumbass not telepathy.

  • there is a bit of a typo but plz ignore it

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  • Terence McKenna is genius.

  • @RossCaleb I know its Great and at the same time hes in everybody just like everybody is in him.

  • I guess im saying your Just as smart.

  • music is too loud

  • "Coincidence is what you have left over when you apply a bad theory." - I love that.

  • It's awful how there's unpleasant music being played in the background.

  • thanks!

  • Eros and Eschaton = Favourite Terence show! :D

  • finally, a guy on youtube who speaks sense!

  • Just blew my mind. Thanks for reminding me.

  • Matthew, great upload my friend.

  • thanks for all your comments, LPF!

  • Oh, and forgot to mention. Schopenhauer used to talk about something similar to what Terence is talking about htere, with his take on Plato's Ideas - what he called "grades of objectification of the Will" (with "Will" here having the special generalised sense Schopenhauer gave it).

  • what is the most complex individual living thing on the planet?

  • Where do you get these video clips?

  • I love Terence But I could Not Disagree More With his Characterization of Science Being Dry and Hopeless.

    Look at This weeks Cover of NewScientist 'FORGET GENES! The Strange inheritance from your parents'

    They Have also Done Many Articles on the Emergence of Complexity.

  • I think I just stumbled onto the smartest poster on You tube. Awesome. But, can I go back to my dancing cats?

  • sarahleeann: subscribe also to 0ThouArtThat0 ... same guy.

  • I agree wholeheartedly with you! And there is always a place for dancing cats-or what would life be worth? peace

  • The more I hear this guy the more I like him.

  • Explosions in the Sky is always a nice touch.

  • Please, I beg you, post the rest of the speech or at least tell me where I can find it.

  • There is tons of Mckenna on a podcast called "psychedelic salon." Google it or search itunes.

  • plantshaman com/mckenna/

    The lecture is Eros & Eschaton

  • thanks baeocystis, much appreciated

  • brilliant!

    i want to find this entire discussion.

  • "Define the word Coincidence as what you have left over after you apply a bad theory."

    HAHAHAHAHA :D

  • You need permission to hope? I hope your wrong. The world thinks that the word evolution is only applicable to organisms? No, you need a dictionary. Recipe for manipulating the ignorant and vulnerable: Combine bits of truth with complex terminology. Elude to resistance being proof of stupidity. Season with jokes at the expense of those with opposing views. Who are you trying to manipulate with this bull and to what end? Money, what? Looser

  • Only trying to provoke thought. Sorry it did not work for you.

  • I've never seen material like this before ... Is it animation or some new technique of electromicroscopic filming? What can be seen after 4:01, is, I suppose, an instance of identical replication ... Awesome.

  • right on

  • awesome. awe-inspiring.

  • awesome stuff man ... I love Tm!

  • I certainly do like the idea of the Great Attractor.

  • thank you

  • A few good ideas wrapped up in mysticism IMHO. The presentation is great, altho that could be taken as a bad thing.

  • interesting, thanks for sharing

  • i think that too!

    the visuals were kickass, also!

  • Thought provoking stuff. Thanks for posting this.

  • Fantastic. Thanks Matt.

  • so let's hope there is no eschatos... score dozen is not it, it's fooliemptishmachimenagerinatio­ns. brain on frypan.

  • Great stuff. It's interesting to me that in the midst of his speech on the uncaring and mechanical properties of the universe that he finds humor. I hope evolution keeps laughter and builds on it. Aloha.

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